• Made tomato sauce

    From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Jun 13 15:56:46 2024
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    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now. Just
    tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I grind porkbutts
    to make the sausage then freeze them raw.
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  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Jun 13 12:08:07 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/13/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now. Just
    tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I grind porkbutts
    to make the sausage then freeze them raw.
    I just planted my tomatoes yesterday. I'm assuming we are in different zones. --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Jun 13 15:35:10 2024
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    On 6/13/24 08:56, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now. Just
    tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I grind porkbutts
    to make the sausage then freeze them raw.

    try running them through a tomatoes press! Fresh,
    garden ripened tomatoes through a press: J-O-Y !!!

    Don't forget the garlic and onions!
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 14 16:59:52 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/13/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now. Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I grind
    porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.
    I just planted my tomatoes yesterday. I'm assuming we are in
    different zones.

    Yup, Virginia Beach. Climate close to coastal NC.
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 14 17:24:56 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    T wrote:

    On 6/13/24 08:56, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now. Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I grind
    porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.

    try running them through a tomatoes press! Fresh,
    garden ripened tomatoes through a press: J-O-Y !!!

    Don't forget the garlic and onions!

    I don't have one and not into more gagets, I just wash well and remove
    all stems then freeze. When enough, run under hot tap water for about
    2 minues and the skins slip off. Perfect for tomato sauce.
    Organically grown and no preservatices.

    Don't worry, lots of garlic and minced onion plus herbs plus whisky
    barrel smoked black cracked pepper. I'm a scratch cook.

    https://postimg.cc/VdFNYtqh

    Not related to the garden, but I plan to try growing the Italian flat
    beans next year. Tis year, first test of growing yukon potatoes (a
    waxy potato, very useful if you want the potatoes to hold shape in
    stews and crockpots).

    Asian saucded/marinaded pork loin stats (cook in the marinade in hot
    cast iron pan, 3 minutes each side then slice. I like it fairly rare
    which is safe with commercially raised pork in the USA. Matched with
    red potatoes and my favorite flat beans.
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  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 14 14:12:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/14/2024 12:59 PM, cshenk wrote:
    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/13/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now. Just
    tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I grind
    porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.
    I just planted my tomatoes yesterday. I'm assuming we are in
    different zones.

    Yup, Virginia Beach. Climate close to coastal NC.
    I live in Maine just a little south of the 45th parallel. On another note, have you been to Dave's BBQ? Wife &I were coming back from Biloxi in 2017
    and drove by it. He had just opened and not having had good southern BBQ before, we swung right in and it was great and worth a try.
    Address - 1009 Laskin Rd, Virginia Beach, VA 23451
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 14 13:43:44 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/14/24 10:24, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/13/24 08:56, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now. Just
    tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I grind
    porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.

    try running them through a tomatoes press! Fresh,
    garden ripened tomatoes through a press: J-O-Y !!!

    Don't forget the garlic and onions!

    I don't have one and not into more gagets, I just wash well and remove
    all stems then freeze. When enough, run under hot tap water for about
    2 minues and the skins slip off. Perfect for tomato sauce.
    Organically grown and no preservatices.

    The press is a lot of work indeed. It removed the skins
    and the seeds. The result is called "strained tomatoes".

    I tend to just pop them in the pan, add olive oil and
    butter, and simmer them down.

    Don't worry, lots of garlic and minced onion plus herbs plus whisky
    barrel smoked black cracked pepper. I'm a scratch cook.

    Garlic is proof God loves mankind, not beer!!!

    https://postimg.cc/VdFNYtqh

    Joy!


    Not related to the garden, but I plan to try growing the Italian flat
    beans next year. Tis year, first test of growing yukon potatoes (a
    waxy potato, very useful if you want the potatoes to hold shape in
    stews and crockpots).

    Asian saucded/marinaded pork loin stats (cook in the marinade in hot
    cast iron pan, 3 minutes each side then slice. I like it fairly rare
    which is safe with commercially raised pork in the USA. Matched with
    red potatoes and my favorite flat beans.

    That settled it. I am incensed. I am scandalized! I am
    eating at your house tonight!!!!!

    My Wife's eyes actually sparkle when I cook garden fresh
    things for her. Life is good!
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 14 13:45:25 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/14/24 11:12, Wilson wrote:

    Address - <redacted>

    That was probably not a good idea. There are
    lots crazies on the web.

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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Jun 15 17:45:27 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/14/2024 12:59 PM, cshenk wrote:
    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/13/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now.
    Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I
    grind porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.
    I just planted my tomatoes yesterday. I'm assuming we are in
    different zones.

    Yup, Virginia Beach. Climate close to coastal NC.
    I live in Maine just a little south of the 45th parallel. On another
    note, have you been to Dave's BBQ? Wife &I were coming back from
    Biloxi in 2017 and drove by it. He had just opened and not having had
    good southern BBQ before, we swung right in and it was great and
    worth a try. Address - 1009 Laskin Rd, Virginia Beach, VA 23451

    Ah! Yes, that's the famous one with the big pig now.

    http://www.davesbbqvb.com/

    Good choice!
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Jun 15 17:54:03 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    T wrote:

    On 6/14/24 11:12, Wilson wrote:

    Address - <redacted>

    That was probably not a good idea. There are
    lots crazies on the web.

    No, it's a real place. Just downhome good BBQ. Wilson probably found
    it while staying at the beach front resort area, possibly while driving
    in.
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Jun 15 18:33:17 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    T wrote:

    On 6/14/24 10:24, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/13/24 08:56, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now.
    Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I
    grind porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.

    try running them through a tomatoes press! Fresh,
    garden ripened tomatoes through a press: J-O-Y !!!

    Don't forget the garlic and onions!

    I don't have one and not into more gagets, I just wash well and
    remove all stems then freeze. When enough, run under hot tap water
    for about 2 minues and the skins slip off. Perfect for tomato
    sauce. Organically grown and no preservatices.

    The press is a lot of work indeed. It removed the skins
    and the seeds. The result is called "strained tomatoes".

    Naw, I just want the skin off for red sauce. I'm fine with the seeds.

    Of that batch 2 cups were finished for spaghetti and 1 cup was reduced
    to about 3/4 cup pixxa sauce in the freezer. Yes, I make pizza from
    home so I can spice the dough.

    I tend to just pop them in the pan, add olive oil and
    butter, and simmer them down.

    With skin or once 'pressed'?

    Don't worry, lots of garlic and minced onion plus herbs plus whisky
    barrel smoked black cracked pepper. I'm a scratch cook.

    Garlic is proof God loves mankind, not beer!!!

    https://postimg.cc/VdFNYtqh

    Joy!

    Yes. In a different newsgroup there one person who gets upset at any
    garlic beyond their personal amount of 1/4 teaspoon....

    Not related to the garden, but I plan to try growing the Italian
    flat beans next year. Tis year, first test of growing yukon
    potatoes (a waxy potato, very useful if you want the potatoes to
    hold shape in stews and crockpots).

    Asian saucded/marinaded pork loin stats (cook in the marinade in hot
    cast iron pan, 3 minutes each side then slice. I like it fairly
    rare which is safe with commercially raised pork in the USA.
    Matched with red potatoes and my favorite flat beans.

    That settled it. I am incensed. I am scandalized! I am
    eating at your house tonight!!!!!

    Grin, my garden ends up in it. https://postimg.cc/YLKb1634
    That one is a 'stir fry' of flat Italian green beans, red bell pepper,
    2 types mushroom, garlic. The Garlic Alfredo is made from scratch and
    the meat is just rounds of browned kielbasa. basically, what I had
    handy at the time.

    My Wife's eyes actually sparkle when I cook garden fresh
    things for her. Life is good!

    Hubbie's does same here.

    This year I planted lots of bell peppers and we have small ones on 4
    plants. Next year I plan to try the flat beans.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Wilson@nowhere@nearyou.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 16 13:12:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/15/2024 1:45 PM, cshenk wrote:
    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/14/2024 12:59 PM, cshenk wrote:
    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/13/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now.
    Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I
    grind porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.
    I just planted my tomatoes yesterday. I'm assuming we are in
    different zones.

    Yup, Virginia Beach. Climate close to coastal NC.
    I live in Maine just a little south of the 45th parallel. On another
    note, have you been to Dave's BBQ? Wife &I were coming back from
    Biloxi in 2017 and drove by it. He had just opened and not having had
    good southern BBQ before, we swung right in and it was great and
    worth a try. Address - 1009 Laskin Rd, Virginia Beach, VA 23451

    Ah! Yes, that's the famous one with the big pig now.

    http://www.davesbbqvb.com/

    Good choice!We didn't stay in Virginia Beach, just lucky enough to drive by Dave's when
    we were headed to the C. Bay Tunnel/Bridge. We spent the night in Maryland just south of the NJ line. Thanks for posting Dave's url. Perhaps that's
    what I should have done, but I wanted to make sure folks could find it. ;)
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Mon Jun 17 17:26:26 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/15/2024 1:45 PM, cshenk wrote:
    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/14/2024 12:59 PM, cshenk wrote:
    Wilson wrote:

    On 6/13/2024 11:56 AM, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering
    now. Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage
    meatballs. I grind porkbutts to make the sausage then
    freeze them raw.
    I just planted my tomatoes yesterday. I'm assuming we are in different zones.

    Yup, Virginia Beach. Climate close to coastal NC.
    I live in Maine just a little south of the 45th parallel. On
    another note, have you been to Dave's BBQ? Wife &I were coming
    back from Biloxi in 2017 and drove by it. He had just opened and
    not having had good southern BBQ before, we swung right in and it
    was great and worth a try. Address - 1009 Laskin Rd, Virginia
    Beach, VA 23451

    Ah! Yes, that's the famous one with the big pig now.

    http://www.davesbbqvb.com/

    Good choice!We didn't stay in Virginia Beach, just lucky enough to
    drive by Dave's when

    we were headed to the C. Bay Tunnel/Bridge. We spent the night in
    Maryland just south of the NJ line. Thanks for posting Dave's url.
    Perhaps that's what I should have done, but I wanted to make sure
    folks could find it. ;)

    No problem! I don't ever post news articles unless tightly related to
    a topic that matches the group so would be plant care, types we can
    grow etc. I don't bug people with youtube 'stuff'. Chuckle, songbird
    helped me find this place.

    Carol, Virginia Beach, zone 8A
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Jun 18 10:03:30 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    cshenk wrote:
    ...
    grow etc. I don't bug people with youtube 'stuff'. Chuckle, songbird
    helped me find this place.

    it's good for there to be more people writing here again,
    even if i'm rather overwhelmed at the moment with
    everything. :)

    i don't post youtube links that often either as i figure
    if someone is there then they can do their own searches.

    apropo to gardening i finally got back to the tomato patch
    and leveled out the dirt piles i'd made from planting. we've
    finally gotten enough rains to soften up the dirt clods so
    i could get it all raked level. Mom can't deal with uneven
    spaces very well now so if she's going to be in that garden
    it has to be more smooth than what i need. while i was
    there i got the whole patch weeded. an hour or so in this
    heat and humidity and i was done and it wasn't much past
    9am. :( i'm not at all acclimated to the heat yet.


    songbird
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Jun 18 16:42:19 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    ...
    grow etc. I don't bug people with youtube 'stuff'. Chuckle,
    songbird helped me find this place.

    it's good for there to be more people writing here again,
    even if i'm rather overwhelmed at the moment with
    everything. :)

    i don't post youtube links that often either as i figure
    if someone is there then they can do their own searches.

    apropo to gardening i finally got back to the tomato patch
    and leveled out the dirt piles i'd made from planting. we've
    finally gotten enough rains to soften up the dirt clods so
    i could get it all raked level. Mom can't deal with uneven
    spaces very well now so if she's going to be in that garden
    it has to be more smooth than what i need. while i was
    there i got the whole patch weeded. an hour or so in this
    heat and humidity and i was done and it wasn't much past
    9am. :( i'm not at all acclimated to the heat yet.


    songbird

    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll do fine. One thing
    that really helps it to be well hydrated. Use powdered gaitoraide
    (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a good source). 2 16oz waterbottles
    a day at least.

    I don't deal well with uneven either.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Jun 18 16:38:11 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/15/24 11:33, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/14/24 10:24, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/13/24 08:56, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering now.
    Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage meatballs. I
    grind porkbutts to make the sausage then freeze them raw.

    try running them through a tomatoes press! Fresh,
    garden ripened tomatoes through a press: J-O-Y !!!

    Don't forget the garlic and onions!

    I don't have one and not into more gagets, I just wash well and
    remove all stems then freeze. When enough, run under hot tap water
    for about 2 minues and the skins slip off. Perfect for tomato
    sauce. Organically grown and no preservatices.

    The press is a lot of work indeed. It removed the skins
    and the seeds. The result is called "strained tomatoes".

    Naw, I just want the skin off for red sauce. I'm fine with the seeds.

    Of that batch 2 cups were finished for spaghetti and 1 cup was reduced
    to about 3/4 cup pixxa sauce in the freezer. Yes, I make pizza from
    home so I can spice the dough.

    I tend to just pop them in the pan, add olive oil and
    butter, and simmer them down.

    With skin or once 'pressed'?

    Don't worry, lots of garlic and minced onion plus herbs plus whisky
    barrel smoked black cracked pepper. I'm a scratch cook.

    Garlic is proof God loves mankind, not beer!!!

    https://postimg.cc/VdFNYtqh

    Joy!

    Yes. In a different newsgroup there one person who gets upset at any
    garlic beyond their personal amount of 1/4 teaspoon....

    Not related to the garden, but I plan to try growing the Italian
    flat beans next year. Tis year, first test of growing yukon
    potatoes (a waxy potato, very useful if you want the potatoes to
    hold shape in stews and crockpots).

    Asian saucded/marinaded pork loin stats (cook in the marinade in hot
    cast iron pan, 3 minutes each side then slice. I like it fairly
    rare which is safe with commercially raised pork in the USA.
    Matched with red potatoes and my favorite flat beans.

    That settled it. I am incensed. I am scandalized! I am
    eating at your house tonight!!!!!

    Grin, my garden ends up in it. https://postimg.cc/YLKb1634
    That one is a 'stir fry' of flat Italian green beans, red bell pepper,
    2 types mushroom, garlic. The Garlic Alfredo is made from scratch and
    the meat is just rounds of browned kielbasa. basically, what I had
    handy at the time.

    My Wife's eyes actually sparkle when I cook garden fresh
    things for her. Life is good!

    Hubbie's does same here.

    This year I planted lots of bell peppers and we have small ones on 4
    plants. Next year I plan to try the flat beans.


    I can't use grain products due to the T2 Diabetes. I am still
    working on my cauliflower pizza shells. My next try will be
    to season the shell. So far I have a watery issue, which I
    will tackle with a bit of coconut flour.

    What seasons do you use in your shells?


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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Jun 18 17:27:07 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/15/24 10:54, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/14/24 11:12, Wilson wrote:

    Address - <redacted>

    That was probably not a good idea. There are
    lots crazies on the web.

    No, it's a real place. Just downhome good BBQ. Wilson probably found
    it while staying at the beach front resort area, possibly while driving
    in.

    I miss read you comment thinking it was your home address.
    You did not write it wrong. I just misread it.
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Tue Jun 18 20:27:38 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    cshenk wrote:
    ...humidity, heat...
    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll do fine. One thing
    that really helps it to be well hydrated. Use powdered gaitoraide
    (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a good source). 2 16oz waterbottles
    a day at least.

    no thanks, i drink water, i get plenty of it, as for
    sugars and salts i prefer to get those via food.


    I don't deal well with uneven either.

    that is from spending a lot of time not walking on
    uneven surfaces or sitting too much. use it or lose
    it.

    i learned quite a bit from practicing Tai Chi about
    how strength and balance can be developed. we practiced
    the first year indoors on a flat floor, the summer time
    we practiced outdoors on a beach or at the park, when we
    went back indoors the next fall it was amazing how much
    all of us had improved our sense of balance and also
    our strength.

    now i'm back outside more and doing more each week as
    i get more acclimated to the activity level, but i also
    need to do some extra stretching. the massage therapist
    does amazing things for me too. after my last session
    with her i could bend down and touch the floor and not
    feel anything tight - that was about a six inch gain in
    what i was able to do when i walked in her door. she
    don't mess around... :)


    songbird
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  • From Dan Purgert@dan@djph.net to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Jun 19 11:56:28 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 2024-06-19, songbird wrote:
    cshenk wrote:
    ...humidity, heat...
    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll do fine. One thing
    that really helps it to be well hydrated. Use powdered gaitoraide
    (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a good source). 2 16oz waterbottles
    a day at least.

    no thanks, i drink water, i get plenty of it, as for
    sugars and salts i prefer to get those via food.

    While a good plan in general, drinking _just_ water can lead to
    complications when you're working / sweating, to the point of making you
    sick before you sate your thirst. Granted, I may be over-estimating how
    active you actually are (and how hot it is where you are, we're getting
    100-104 on the heat index here).

    As an alternative, you can make switchel (aka "haymaker's punch",
    or "ginger water") -- water, cider vinegar, ginger, and sweetener (a
    mild flavored honey works well, though most any sweetener will work -- molasses, pure maple syrup (i.e. NOT "Maple Flavored Syrup"), raw sugar,
    etc.)

    I originally got the general recipe from leafing through a reproduction colonial era cookbook at Williamsburg or similar "living history" museum
    from the Revolutionary War era. These are the measurements that've
    worked for me to take it down from "makes 10 gallons" ;)

    1T fresh ginger OR 1/2 tsp dried/ground ginger
    1/4c (~60 mL) cider vineger
    "sweeten to taste" (1-2T honey)

    In a 1 quart (1 liter) container, dissolve the honey in the vinegar,
    then mix in the ginger. Add enough water to fill to the quart / liter
    mark. Ideally let it 'steep' for an hour or two, to let the ginger
    mellow out a little bit ... but it's not *too* bad to make it then drink
    it right away.

    No clue whatsoever on "nutrition info" though

    HTH :)
    --
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Jun 19 16:20:06 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    T wrote:

    On 6/15/24 10:54, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/14/24 11:12, Wilson wrote:

    Address - <redacted>

    That was probably not a good idea. There are
    lots crazies on the web.

    No, it's a real place. Just downhome good BBQ. Wilson probably
    found it while staying at the beach front resort area, possibly
    while driving in.

    I miss read you comment thinking it was your home address.
    You did not write it wrong. I just misread it.

    LOL, don't worry about it. We all do that from time to time.

    I have to snicker though, expecting a house and finding a big happy
    pig! Must have thought for a split second I was a happy nutcase!
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Jun 19 16:32:08 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    ...humidity, heat...
    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll do fine. One
    thing that really helps it to be well hydrated. Use powdered
    gaitoraide (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a good source). 2
    16oz waterbottles a day at least.

    no thanks, i drink water, i get plenty of it, as for
    sugars and salts i prefer to get those via food.


    I don't deal well with uneven either.

    that is from spending a lot of time not walking on
    uneven surfaces or sitting too much. use it or lose
    it.

    i learned quite a bit from practicing Tai Chi about
    how strength and balance can be developed. we practiced
    the first year indoors on a flat floor, the summer time
    we practiced outdoors on a beach or at the park, when we
    went back indoors the next fall it was amazing how much
    all of us had improved our sense of balance and also
    our strength.

    now i'm back outside more and doing more each week as
    i get more acclimated to the activity level, but i also
    need to do some extra stretching. the massage therapist
    does amazing things for me too. after my last session
    with her i could bend down and touch the floor and not
    feel anything tight - that was about a six inch gain in
    what i was able to do when i walked in her door. she
    don't mess around... :)


    songbird

    True about sitting but I don't have much choice there due to all the
    spinal issues. I'm inoperable due to the progressive nature of it but
    I was predicted to be wheel chair bound by age 50. I'm 54 and the
    spine doc just grins when I walk in, sometimes just carrying a cane.

    But enough about me. I've got a delicata squash growing! First time
    trying them!
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Jun 19 17:05:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, songbird wrote:
    cshenk wrote:
    ...humidity, heat...
    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll do fine. One
    thing >> that really helps it to be well hydrated. Use powdered
    gaitoraide >> (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a good source). 2
    16oz waterbottles >> a day at least.

    no thanks, i drink water, i get plenty of it, as for
    sugars and salts i prefer to get those via food.

    While a good plan in general, drinking just water can lead to
    complications when you're working / sweating, to the point of making
    you sick before you sate your thirst. Granted, I may be
    over-estimating how active you actually are (and how hot it is where
    you are, we're getting 100-104 on the heat index here).

    That was what I was getting at. In the Navy in Sasebo Japan, at worst
    of summer, the base hits 'feels like' 116F. Try that with the blazing
    sun hitting a big chunk of metal with the AC shut down, as we were
    getting upgrades or repairs so engineering is shut down.

    You learn fast to keep hydrated and not just water.

    Pocari sweat was the best! Electrolite replacement drink of Japan.
    Expensive here to get. Just adding tablesalt won't work.

    As an alternative, you can make switchel (aka "haymaker's punch",
    or "ginger water") -- water, cider vinegar, ginger, and sweetener (a
    mild flavored honey works well, though most any sweetener will work -- molasses, pure maple syrup (i.e. NOT "Maple Flavored Syrup"), raw
    sugar, etc.)

    Thanks! It it specific to cider vinegar? I have brown sugar cane
    vinegar. I'd like to try mixing a batch here for Don and me. Ginger
    is very easy to grow!


    I originally got the general recipe from leafing through a
    reproduction colonial era cookbook at Williamsburg or similar "living history" museum from the Revolutionary War era. These are the
    measurements that've worked for me to take it down from "makes 10
    gallons" ;)

    1T fresh ginger OR 1/2 tsp dried/ground ginger
    1/4c (~60 mL) cider vineger
    "sweeten to taste" (1-2T honey)

    In a 1 quart (1 liter) container, dissolve the honey in the vinegar,
    then mix in the ginger. Add enough water to fill to the quart / liter
    mark. Ideally let it 'steep' for an hour or two, to let the ginger
    mellow out a little bit ... but it's not too bad to make it then drink
    it right away.

    No clue whatsoever on "nutrition info" though

    HTH :)

    Hey, suits me!
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Jun 19 17:14:22 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    T wrote:

    On 6/15/24 11:33, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/14/24 10:24, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    On 6/13/24 08:56, cshenk wrote:
    Got enough fresh tomatoes to make sauce. It's simmering
    now. Just tomatoes, spices, later homemade sausage
    meatballs. I grind porkbutts to make the sausage then
    freeze them raw.

    try running them through a tomatoes press! Fresh,
    garden ripened tomatoes through a press: J-O-Y !!!

    Don't forget the garlic and onions!

    I don't have one and not into more gagets, I just wash well and
    remove all stems then freeze. When enough, run under hot tap
    water for about 2 minues and the skins slip off. Perfect for
    tomato sauce. Organically grown and no preservatices.

    The press is a lot of work indeed. It removed the skins
    and the seeds. The result is called "strained tomatoes".

    Naw, I just want the skin off for red sauce. I'm fine with the
    seeds.

    Of that batch 2 cups were finished for spaghetti and 1 cup was
    reduced to about 3/4 cup pixxa sauce in the freezer. Yes, I make
    pizza from home so I can spice the dough.

    I tend to just pop them in the pan, add olive oil and
    butter, and simmer them down.

    With skin or once 'pressed'?

    Don't worry, lots of garlic and minced onion plus herbs plus
    whisky barrel smoked black cracked pepper. I'm a scratch cook.

    Garlic is proof God loves mankind, not beer!!!

    https://postimg.cc/VdFNYtqh

    Joy!

    Yes. In a different newsgroup there one person who gets upset at
    any garlic beyond their personal amount of 1/4 teaspoon....

    Not related to the garden, but I plan to try growing the Italian
    flat beans next year. Tis year, first test of growing yukon
    potatoes (a waxy potato, very useful if you want the potatoes to
    hold shape in stews and crockpots).

    Asian saucded/marinaded pork loin stats (cook in the marinade
    in hot cast iron pan, 3 minutes each side then slice. I like
    it fairly rare which is safe with commercially raised pork in
    the USA. Matched with red potatoes and my favorite flat beans.

    That settled it. I am incensed. I am scandalized! I am
    eating at your house tonight!!!!!

    Grin, my garden ends up in it. https://postimg.cc/YLKb1634
    That one is a 'stir fry' of flat Italian green beans, red bell
    pepper, 2 types mushroom, garlic. The Garlic Alfredo is made from
    scratch and the meat is just rounds of browned kielbasa.
    basically, what I had handy at the time.

    My Wife's eyes actually sparkle when I cook garden fresh
    things for her. Life is good!

    Hubbie's does same here.

    This year I planted lots of bell peppers and we have small ones on 4 plants. Next year I plan to try the flat beans.


    I can't use grain products due to the T2 Diabetes. I am still
    working on my cauliflower pizza shells. My next try will be
    to season the shell. So far I have a watery issue, which I
    will tackle with a bit of coconut flour.

    What seasons do you use in your shells?

    Basil and oregano are common as is minced dry garlic. I don't grow
    garlic but I do have a patch of garlic chives and will snip some tops
    for a garlicy/onion taste.
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  • From Dan Purgert@dan@djph.net to rec.gardens.edible on Wed Jun 19 21:58:15 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 2024-06-19, cshenk wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, songbird wrote:
    cshenk wrote:
    ...humidity, heat...
    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll do fine. One
    thing >> that really helps it to be well hydrated. Use powdered
    gaitoraide >> (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a good source). 2
    16oz waterbottles >> a day at least.

    no thanks, i drink water, i get plenty of it, as for
    sugars and salts i prefer to get those via food.

    While a good plan in general, drinking just water can lead to
    complications when you're working / sweating, to the point of making
    you sick before you sate your thirst. Granted, I may be
    over-estimating how active you actually are (and how hot it is where
    you are, we're getting 100-104 on the heat index here).

    That was what I was getting at. In the Navy in Sasebo Japan, at worst
    of summer, the base hits 'feels like' 116F. Try that with the blazing
    sun hitting a big chunk of metal with the AC shut down, as we were
    getting upgrades or repairs so engineering is shut down.

    You learn fast to keep hydrated and not just water.

    Pocari sweat was the best! Electrolite replacement drink of Japan.
    Expensive here to get. Just adding tablesalt won't work.

    As an alternative, you can make switchel (aka "haymaker's punch",
    or "ginger water") -- water, cider vinegar, ginger, and sweetener (a
    mild flavored honey works well, though most any sweetener will work --
    molasses, pure maple syrup (i.e. NOT "Maple Flavored Syrup"), raw
    sugar, etc.)

    Thanks! It it specific to cider vinegar? I have brown sugar cane
    vinegar. I'd like to try mixing a batch here for Don and me. Ginger
    is very easy to grow!

    If it's a vinegar you'd throw directly on food / use as a salad
    dressing, I bet it'd be fine. Worst case, you wasted a quarter cup of it
    and a token amount of ginger and honey.


    -
    |_|O|_|
    |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
    |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Jun 20 09:36:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Dan Purgert wrote:
    ...
    I originally got the general recipe from leafing through a reproduction colonial era cookbook at Williamsburg or similar "living history" museum
    from the Revolutionary War era. These are the measurements that've
    worked for me to take it down from "makes 10 gallons" ;)

    1T fresh ginger OR 1/2 tsp dried/ground ginger
    1/4c (~60 mL) cider vineger
    "sweeten to taste" (1-2T honey)

    In a 1 quart (1 liter) container, dissolve the honey in the vinegar,
    then mix in the ginger. Add enough water to fill to the quart / liter
    mark. Ideally let it 'steep' for an hour or two, to let the ginger
    mellow out a little bit ... but it's not *too* bad to make it then drink
    it right away.

    No clue whatsoever on "nutrition info" though

    HTH :)

    doing fine as is thanks! :)

    i can tell when i need more salts and sugars because my
    appetite will go way up even if i've eaten recently. we
    always have snacks around (Mom bakes quite a bit) and i
    have no problem finding them.

    as for thirst quenching, water has always worked the
    best for me. we have a good well even if the water does
    have a bit of calcium and rust in it. i'm used to it so
    there's no hesitation for me getting a drink but i do
    like it cold so i run the faucet until the water from
    the pipes is fresh again. we don't usually have enough
    room in the fridge for me to keep a pitcher in there but
    some year perhaps i'll be able to find some glass bottles
    and fill those once a day and then i won't have to run
    the water as much. i eventually will get rid of the cans
    of coke (we aren't drinking it as much any longer and i'm
    quite fine with that too).


    songbird
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Jun 20 09:44:10 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    cshenk wrote:
    ...back issues...
    True about sitting but I don't have much choice there due to all the
    spinal issues. I'm inoperable due to the progressive nature of it but
    I was predicted to be wheel chair bound by age 50. I'm 54 and the
    spine doc just grins when I walk in, sometimes just carrying a cane.

    some years ago i was seriously contemplating surgery for
    the nth time but a friend recommended a chiropractor and
    he was able to get things moving and since then i've not
    needed much in the way of medications or even going back
    to get adjusted much. the massage therapist is doing her
    magic once a month and regular gardening exercise is doing
    what it needs to do... can't complain. i never expected
    to live this long so every day is a bonus to me. for some
    reason as a kid i never thought i'd live past 30 it seemed
    so long in the future... now i'm over twice that and
    still kicking. i am pretty sure gardening is a big reason
    why. i'd go rather stir-crazy if i didn't have some form
    of meaningful exercise.


    But enough about me. I've got a delicata squash growing! First time
    trying them!

    i think they are very sweet to me. i like all winter
    squashes but more along the lines of the Kobacha and
    Buttercups. i can tolerate the Acorns but only if grown
    and allowed to actually ripen before picking. too often
    these days the Acorns from the stores are not really done
    enough and they have little flavor. a step up from them
    is the Hubbard, but those can take over too easily - i've
    had vines of those run 30+ feet.

    this year i'm not growing any squash at all or melons
    for that matter... :(


    songbird
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Jun 20 15:54:02 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, cshenk wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, songbird wrote:
    cshenk wrote:
    ...humidity, heat...
    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll do fine. One
    thing >> that really helps it to be well hydrated. Use powdered
    gaitoraide >> (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a good source). 2
    16oz waterbottles >> a day at least.

    no thanks, i drink water, i get plenty of it, as for
    sugars and salts i prefer to get those via food.

    While a good plan in general, drinking just water can lead to
    complications when you're working / sweating, to the point of
    making >> you sick before you sate your thirst. Granted, I may be
    over-estimating how active you actually are (and how hot it is
    where >> you are, we're getting 100-104 on the heat index here).

    That was what I was getting at. In the Navy in Sasebo Japan, at
    worst of summer, the base hits 'feels like' 116F. Try that with
    the blazing sun hitting a big chunk of metal with the AC shut down,
    as we were getting upgrades or repairs so engineering is shut down.

    You learn fast to keep hydrated and not just water.

    Pocari sweat was the best! Electrolite replacement drink of Japan. Expensive here to get. Just adding tablesalt won't work.

    As an alternative, you can make switchel (aka "haymaker's punch",
    or "ginger water") -- water, cider vinegar, ginger, and sweetener
    (a >> mild flavored honey works well, though most any sweetener will
    work -- >> molasses, pure maple syrup (i.e. NOT "Maple Flavored
    Syrup"), raw >> sugar, etc.)

    Thanks! It it specific to cider vinegar? I have brown sugar cane
    vinegar. I'd like to try mixing a batch here for Don and me.
    Ginger is very easy to grow!

    If it's a vinegar you'd throw directly on food / use as a salad
    dressing, I bet it'd be fine. Worst case, you wasted a quarter cup of
    it and a token amount of ginger and honey.


    -
    _|O|_|
    _|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
    O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860

    I'll try it. Yes, cane vineger is based on sugar canes. It's brown
    but adds a very nice kind of sweetness and makes a better dressing than
    apple vinegar. Datu puti is the brand I find here, product of the
    Phillippenes (sp?). Pretty pricy on Amazon but inexpensive in any
    Asian ethnic grocery. They also make the best soy sauce, better than
    kikkoman.
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Thu Jun 20 16:16:03 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    ...back issues...
    True about sitting but I don't have much choice there due to all the
    spinal issues. I'm inoperable due to the progressive nature of it
    but I was predicted to be wheel chair bound by age 50. I'm 64 and
    the spine doc just grins when I walk in, sometimes just carrying a
    cane.

    Typo correction. I'm 64 not 54,


    some years ago i was seriously contemplating surgery for
    the nth time but a friend recommended a chiropractor and
    he was able to get things moving and since then i've not
    needed much in the way of medications or even going back
    to get adjusted much. the massage therapist is doing her
    magic once a month and regular gardening exercise is doing
    what it needs to do... can't complain. i never expected
    to live this long so every day is a bonus to me. for some
    reason as a kid i never thought i'd live past 30 it seemed
    so long in the future... now i'm over twice that and
    still kicking. i am pretty sure gardening is a big reason
    why. i'd go rather stir-crazy if i didn't have some form
    of meaningful exercise.

    Glad it's working! I do what I can in the garden too. I'm resting up
    after the grocery trip this morning, and helping get it all put away.

    But enough about me. I've got a delicata squash growing! First
    time trying them!

    i think they are very sweet to me. i like all winter
    squashes but more along the lines of the Kobacha and
    Buttercups. i can tolerate the Acorns but only if grown
    and allowed to actually ripen before picking. too often
    these days the Acorns from the stores are not really done
    enough and they have little flavor. a step up from them
    is the Hubbard, but those can take over too easily - i've
    had vines of those run 30+ feet.

    this year i'm not growing any squash at all or melons
    for that matter... :(


    songbird

    Humm! I don't find delicata sweet. I roast them with red bell peppers
    then make a creamy bisque base and add most of them in and blend it
    then garnish with the rest and some some made crutons. Lovely dish.
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  • From Dan Purgert@dan@djph.net to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 09:10:12 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 2024-06-20, songbird wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    ...
    I originally got the general recipe from leafing through a reproduction
    colonial era cookbook at Williamsburg or similar "living history" museum
    from the Revolutionary War era. These are the measurements that've
    worked for me to take it down from "makes 10 gallons" ;)

    1T fresh ginger OR 1/2 tsp dried/ground ginger
    1/4c (~60 mL) cider vineger
    "sweeten to taste" (1-2T honey)

    In a 1 quart (1 liter) container, dissolve the honey in the vinegar,
    then mix in the ginger. Add enough water to fill to the quart / liter
    mark. Ideally let it 'steep' for an hour or two, to let the ginger
    mellow out a little bit ... but it's not *too* bad to make it then drink
    it right away.

    No clue whatsoever on "nutrition info" though

    HTH :)

    doing fine as is thanks! :)

    i can tell when i need more salts and sugars because my
    appetite will go way up even if i've eaten recently. we
    always have snacks around (Mom bakes quite a bit) and i
    have no problem finding them.

    The punch recipe there isn't so much about getting salt and sugar, but
    rather the mixture helps to avoid the "water is a brick in my stomach"
    feeling that can happen when you're hot and working hard.
    --
    |_|O|_|
    |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
    |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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  • From Dan Purgert@dan@djph.net to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 09:18:32 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 2024-06-20, cshenk wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, cshenk wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:

    As an alternative, you can make switchel (aka "haymaker's punch",
    or "ginger water") -- water, cider vinegar, ginger, and sweetener
    (a mild flavored honey works well, though most any sweetener will
    work -- molasses, pure maple syrup (i.e. NOT "Maple Flavored
    Syrup"), raw sugar, etc.)

    Thanks! It it specific to cider vinegar? I have brown sugar cane
    vinegar. I'd like to try mixing a batch here for Don and me.
    Ginger is very easy to grow!

    If it's a vinegar you'd throw directly on food / use as a salad
    dressing, I bet it'd be fine. Worst case, you wasted a quarter cup of
    it and a token amount of ginger and honey.

    I'll try it. Yes, cane vineger is based on sugar canes. It's brown
    but adds a very nice kind of sweetness and makes a better dressing than
    apple vinegar. Datu puti is the brand I find here, product of the Phillippenes (sp?). Pretty pricy on Amazon but inexpensive in any
    Asian ethnic grocery. They also make the best soy sauce, better than kikkoman.

    Sounds like it'd be a good choice then. I made some the other day with
    maple syrup, after a night in the fridge it tasted nearly exactly like
    ginger ale. Honey may well have lost its top spot :)
    --
    |_|O|_|
    |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
    |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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  • From Nyssa@Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 08:57:11 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    cshenk wrote:

    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, cshenk wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, songbird wrote:
    cshenk wrote:
    ...humidity, heat...
    It takes time to get acclimated. I'm sure you'll
    do fine. One
    thing >> that really helps it to be well hydrated.
    Use powdered
    gaitoraide >> (cheaper by far, look to Amazon as a
    good source). 2 16oz waterbottles >> a day at least.

    no thanks, i drink water, i get plenty of it, as
    for
    sugars and salts i prefer to get those via food.

    While a good plan in general, drinking just water can
    lead to complications when you're working / sweating,
    to the point of
    making >> you sick before you sate your thirst. Granted,
    I may be
    over-estimating how active you actually are (and how
    hot it is
    where >> you are, we're getting 100-104 on the heat index
    here).

    That was what I was getting at. In the Navy in Sasebo
    Japan, at
    worst of summer, the base hits 'feels like' 116F. Try
    that with the blazing sun hitting a big chunk of metal
    with the AC shut down, as we were getting upgrades or
    repairs so engineering is shut down.

    You learn fast to keep hydrated and not just water.

    Pocari sweat was the best! Electrolite replacement
    drink of Japan.
    Expensive here to get. Just adding tablesalt won't
    work.

    As an alternative, you can make switchel (aka
    "haymaker's punch", or "ginger water") -- water, cider
    vinegar, ginger, and sweetener
    (a >> mild flavored honey works well, though most any
    sweetener will work -- >> molasses, pure maple syrup
    (i.e. NOT "Maple Flavored Syrup"), raw >> sugar, etc.)

    Thanks! It it specific to cider vinegar? I have brown
    sugar cane
    vinegar. I'd like to try mixing a batch here for Don
    and me. Ginger is very easy to grow!

    If it's a vinegar you'd throw directly on food / use as a
    salad dressing, I bet it'd be fine. Worst case, you
    wasted a quarter cup of it and a token amount of ginger
    and honey.


    -
    _|O|_|
    _|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
    O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5
    4CE7 2860

    I'll try it. Yes, cane vineger is based on sugar canes.
    It's brown but adds a very nice kind of sweetness and
    makes a better dressing than
    apple vinegar. Datu puti is the brand I find here,
    product of the
    Phillippenes (sp?). Pretty pricy on Amazon but
    inexpensive in any
    Asian ethnic grocery. They also make the best soy sauce,
    better than kikkoman.

    I bet you go to the Asian grocery store on Great Neck
    Road at the intersection with Va. Beach Blvd. ;)

    I get several items there when I can make the trip down
    for other stockups and errands. I was going to try for
    a trip next week, but the heat wave predicted will
    postpone that trip until we get some relief from the
    high temperatures.

    Meanwhile, back at the pot farm, I'll be harvesting
    some of the last of the sugar snap peas (Patio Pride
    from Scheeper's who no longer carry the variety. I'll
    be letting some pods ripen and dry to save seeds for
    fall and next year). Those will go into a lunchtime
    stir fry.

    Yesterday I re-seeded three pots that had either lettuce
    or shallots with White Spanish Sweet onions, Adalaide
    carrots, and Zebune Shallots. It will be a challenge
    to keep the new seeds moist with the heat wave expected
    over the next week, but I'll manage.

    I've got six tomato plants going (five different varieties:
    Little Bing, SuperSweet 100s, Red Jelly Bean, Better Boy,
    and San Marzano) with little tomatoes on two plants and
    blossoms on all but the San Marzano. I got a late start
    this year, but it's going well now.

    The heat wave is upon us, and I did the yard work earlier
    this week so I wouldn't have to worry about it during
    the triple-digits that are coming over the next week.
    With no rain so far this week, the Evil Grass shouldn't
    need cutting until the worst of the heat is over with...
    until the next heat wave.

    Happy Summer Solstice!

    Nyssa, who also made a grocery run yesterday morning to
    stock up on some comfort food (ice cream!) and extra
    water for the miserable weekend ahead

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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 17:17:44 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-20, cshenk wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:

    On 2024-06-19, cshenk wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:

    As an alternative, you can make switchel (aka "haymaker's punch",
    or "ginger water") -- water, cider vinegar, ginger, and sweetener
    (a mild flavored honey works well, though most any sweetener will
    work -- molasses, pure maple syrup (i.e. NOT "Maple Flavored
    Syrup"), raw sugar, etc.)

    Thanks! It it specific to cider vinegar? I have brown sugar cane
    vinegar. I'd like to try mixing a batch here for Don and me.
    Ginger is very easy to grow!

    If it's a vinegar you'd throw directly on food / use as a salad
    dressing, I bet it'd be fine. Worst case, you wasted a quarter cup
    of >> it and a token amount of ginger and honey.

    I'll try it. Yes, cane vineger is based on sugar canes. It's brown
    but adds a very nice kind of sweetness and makes a better dressing
    than apple vinegar. Datu puti is the brand I find here, product of
    the Phillippenes (sp?). Pretty pricy on Amazon but inexpensive in
    any Asian ethnic grocery. They also make the best soy sauce,
    better than kikkoman.

    Sounds like it'd be a good choice then. I made some the other day
    with maple syrup, after a night in the fridge it tasted nearly
    exactly like ginger ale. Honey may well have lost its top spot :)

    I'll try it! I have a huge jug of the real stuff we got as a gift.
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  • From cshenk@cshenk@virginia-beach.net to rec.gardens.edible on Fri Jun 21 17:40:00 2024
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    Nyssa wrote:

    cshenk wrote:

    (trimmed a lot! Talkihg vinegars to match a drink)


    I'll try it. Yes, cane vineger is based on sugar canes.
    It's brown but adds a very nice kind of sweetness and
    makes a better dressing than
    apple vinegar. Datu puti is the brand I find here,
    product of the
    Phillippenes (sp?). Pretty pricy on Amazon but
    inexpensive in any
    Asian ethnic grocery. They also make the best soy sauce,
    better than kikkoman.

    I bet you go to the Asian grocery store on Great Neck
    Road at the intersection with Va. Beach Blvd. ;)

    Oh yes! Every 2 weeks or so.

    I get several items there when I can make the trip down
    for other stockups and errands. I was going to try for
    a trip next week, but the heat wave predicted will
    postpone that trip until we get some relief from the
    high temperatures.

    If you warn me when, I can probably meet you!
    (cshenk54 at yahoo.com)

    Meanwhile, back at the pot farm, I'll be harvesting
    some of the last of the sugar snap peas (Patio Pride
    from Scheeper's who no longer carry the variety. I'll
    be letting some pods ripen and dry to save seeds for
    fall and next year). Those will go into a lunchtime
    stir fry.

    I do a lot of Stir frys here! half my garden is based on supporting it.

    Yesterday I re-seeded three pots that had either lettuce
    or shallots with White Spanish Sweet onions, Adalaide
    carrots, and Zebune Shallots. It will be a challenge
    to keep the new seeds moist with the heat wave expected
    over the next week, but I'll manage.

    I gave up on carrots.

    I've got six tomato plants going (five different varieties:
    Little Bing, SuperSweet 100s, Red Jelly Bean, Better Boy,
    and San Marzano) with little tomatoes on two plants and
    blossoms on all but the San Marzano. I got a late start
    this year, but it's going well now.

    I have 6 I think and a cherry tomato one.

    The heat wave is upon us, and I did the yard work earlier
    this week so I wouldn't have to worry about it during
    the triple-digits that are coming over the next week.
    With no rain so far this week, the Evil Grass shouldn't
    need cutting until the worst of the heat is over with...
    until the next heat wave.

    LOL, same here but we've had little bits of rain.


    Happy Summer Solstice!

    Nyssa, who also made a grocery run yesterday morning to
    stock up on some comfort food (ice cream!) and extra
    water for the miserable weekend ahead

    I use tap water and gaitor aid powder but you see the electrolyte
    repcacement water discussion. (grin). Works better for me once I try
    it. It's cheaper too! Fully retired now, the rising costs take a bite.
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Jun 22 00:04:50 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    Dan Purgert wrote:
    On 2024-06-20, songbird wrote:
    ...
    doing fine as is thanks! :)

    i can tell when i need more salts and sugars because my
    appetite will go way up even if i've eaten recently. we
    always have snacks around (Mom bakes quite a bit) and i
    have no problem finding them.

    The punch recipe there isn't so much about getting salt and sugar, but
    rather the mixture helps to avoid the "water is a brick in my stomach" feeling that can happen when you're hot and working hard.

    i don't have that problem. i usually drink very
    cold water on hot days without stomach issues. about a
    cup and a half at a time.


    songbird
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  • From Dan Purgert@dan@djph.net to rec.gardens.edible on Sat Jun 22 12:10:27 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 2024-06-22, songbird wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    On 2024-06-20, songbird wrote:
    ...
    doing fine as is thanks! :)

    i can tell when i need more salts and sugars because my
    appetite will go way up even if i've eaten recently. we
    always have snacks around (Mom bakes quite a bit) and i
    have no problem finding them.

    The punch recipe there isn't so much about getting salt and sugar, but
    rather the mixture helps to avoid the "water is a brick in my stomach"
    feeling that can happen when you're hot and working hard.

    i don't have that problem. i usually drink very
    cold water on hot days without stomach issues. about a
    cup and a half at a time.

    Oh that's nothing then. I'm talking about when you're so parched that
    you can down a half liter or more without pause.
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  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to rec.gardens.edible on Sun Jun 23 00:30:47 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.gardens.edible

    On 6/19/24 10:14, cshenk wrote:
    T wrote:

    What seasons do you use in your shells?

    Basil and oregano are common as is minced dry garlic. I don't grow
    garlic but I do have a patch of garlic chives and will snip some tops
    for a garlicy/onion taste.

    Awesome!
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