• D&D Movie Sequel Canned

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to rec.games.frp.dnd on Sat Nov 30 12:07:15 2024
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    So, it's being reported that Hasbro is backing out of making a sequel
    to the 2023 D&D movie, "Honor Amongst Thieves".*

    [meme]Oh no! Anyway...[/meme]

    It's really no surprise, though. Not only was the movie something of a financial flop, but the adventures of Brad the bard and his friends**
    also didn't capture any of the public's imagination. It was an utterly forgettable movie that depended almost entirely on people's nostalgia
    for D&D... and --as much as I love the game-- D&D itself isn't all
    that exciting.

    It's the story and characters (and the interactions amongst the
    players) that make the game so memorable. It's Drizzt Du'orden, or
    memories of that time Billy rolled a 1 when trying to pickpocket the
    lich. It's NOT the fact that the game has a beholder in it or that
    people are inexplicably divided into classes of thief, mage and
    warrior. And yet, it's the _system_ that the movie relied upon as its
    primary hook. It's no wonder it failed.

    In fairness, Hasbro is backing away from film projects in general;
    they also canned the Transformer One movies and sold off their film
    and TV business. Canny C-levels aren't expecting a rosy future for
    world economies for the next few years*** and big expensive movies
    made in Hollywood aren't likely to see good returns. But I think even
    had economic prospects looked better, the D&D movie almost certainly
    would have gotten the axe. Even just seen as a marketing vehicle to
    get the D&D brand back into the public consciousness, it wasn't that
    effective. As a movie, it was a $200 million failure.

    So say goodbye to Brad and his friends. Maybe we'll one day get a
    reference to them in some future module (I mean, we still get
    occasional references to Strongheart and Warduke, based on toys
    released in the early 80s) but it's unlikely they'll ever grace the
    silver screen again.


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    * read article here: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/hasbro-s-gamer-ceo-refocuses-on-play-after-selling-film-business?

    ** so much so that you probably didn't even notice that Brad is not
    the name of the main character. It's Aldor.****

    *** I can't imagine why, America


















    **** Nope. It's Edgin.... /or is it/? You don't know!*****
























    ***** To be fair, neither did I until I looked it up on Wikipedia. And
    yes, the main character's name really is Edgin. Trust me.

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  • From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to rec.games.frp.dnd on Fri Dec 6 11:15:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.games.frp.dnd

    On 11/30/2024 6:07 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    So, it's being reported that Hasbro is backing out of making a sequel
    to the 2023 D&D movie, "Honor Amongst Thieves".*

    [meme]Oh no! Anyway...[/meme]

    It's really no surprise, though. Not only was the movie something of a financial flop, but the adventures of Brad the bard and his friends**
    also didn't capture any of the public's imagination. It was an utterly forgettable movie that depended almost entirely on people's nostalgia
    for D&D... and --as much as I love the game-- D&D itself isn't all
    that exciting.

    It's the story and characters (and the interactions amongst the
    players) that make the game so memorable. It's Drizzt Du'orden, or
    memories of that time Billy rolled a 1 when trying to pickpocket the
    lich. It's NOT the fact that the game has a beholder in it or that
    people are inexplicably divided into classes of thief, mage and
    warrior. And yet, it's the _system_ that the movie relied upon as its
    primary hook. It's no wonder it failed.

    In fairness, Hasbro is backing away from film projects in general;
    they also canned the Transformer One movies and sold off their film
    and TV business. Canny C-levels aren't expecting a rosy future for
    world economies for the next few years*** and big expensive movies
    made in Hollywood aren't likely to see good returns. But I think even
    had economic prospects looked better, the D&D movie almost certainly
    would have gotten the axe. Even just seen as a marketing vehicle to
    get the D&D brand back into the public consciousness, it wasn't that effective. As a movie, it was a $200 million failure.

    It's a bit of an issue because it managed to get an audience on
    streaming later on. That should be enough to allow for some extension of
    the franchise, especially as all those numbers about money earned from
    films are mostly made up anyway.

    But the issue is mostly that Hasbro has issues. not just issues with
    their media properties, but ISSUES. They don't have a clue how to do
    stuff right now. They know they produce toys and they know they want
    money, but the current leadership of Hasbro doesn't know how to connect
    these two with products that people actually want buy.
    Dungeons and Dragons is an extreme outlier for profitability for them,
    and that's mostly because actual FANS were the ones that moved it into
    the public consciousness. And the only way they thought about how to
    make money from that was by forcing the creators that did that into
    paying for the privilege, as if it was really DnD that was at the core
    of Critical Role's success, and not the skills of it's GM/players.

    (I am not a fan of CR, but I can't deny that they captured their audience)

    But even worse is the fact that they managed to squander a complete
    media empire. Previously they had success with My Little Pony, and it
    was absolutely massive. And it was running on their own channel and
    people were into it. But somehow they managed to completely fuck up that
    part as well to the point that noone even cares about it anymore.


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