On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
tl;dr: wanna live of dnd? her husband makes 90.000$ a year. In other
words: marry rich
My wife makes that, I made 70k last year, but where we live to get that
is expensive, we're in a tiny 70's house (about 1000 sq ft.) that's
falling apart, needs probably 150k, maybe more in deferred maintenance
from the previous owners, and 2 kids in a just so-so neighborhood & school.
Source: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/business/money-report/36-year-old-makes-37000-a-year-leading-dungeons-dragons-games-if-youre-doing-it-anyway-you-might-as-well-get-paid/3294720/
36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games: If rCyyou're doing it anyway, you might as well' get paid
By Mike Winters,CNBC and Raffi Paul,CNBC...
...in-person tabletop roleplaying game sessions that range from $375 to $750...
Is that per person?-a Probably not, if not that's about $15 per hour
minimum for players assuming 5 person games.-a-a If her games take 15
hours (as is said later) between prep and play she should be getting
about $25 an hour.
...She makes $24,000 as a dungeon master for the company, plus another $13,000 teaching writing at nearby Westminster University in Salt Lake
City, where she lives with her husband, Scott. He makes $96,000 as a communications director at a state agency.
A little discrepancy there.-a She really makes $24k from DMing... for another company.-a Sounds like she's getting screwed on pay.
"That really opened the doors to networking for other types of work,
because when people were looking for a writer who could do fiction at a professional level, my name would start coming up," says Murdock.
Getting hired as a professional Dungeon Master
$24k isn't really opening the doors for anything.
Even if she didn't do it for a living, Murdock says she'd still be
planning D&D campaigns for friends, reading game books or writing fiction.
Since hobbies can become side hustles, "it's important to remember that creative work is work," she says.
As a friend once said to her: "You're going to be doing it anyway, you
might as well find someone to pay you for it."
And that's how you turn your hobby into a chore.
"I run about three games a week on a busy week," says Murdock. Each
ongoing game, including prep, takes about four to five hours a week of
her time.
24k for 15 hrs a week, assuming a couple weeks off a year she's making
$3.20 an hour?!?-a Maybe there's some overhead like venue, scheduling
done by someone else or something, but she's really getting screwed at
that rate!
In June 2023, Mari and Scott purchased a detached two-bedroom home in downtown Salt Lake City for $535,000, with a down payment of $40,000. To afford the home, they took on a personal loan within their family, which works out to $777 in monthly payments in addition to their mortgage.
So they got a 60 year loan with no interest from family. They should be paying ~$3,300 a month with a bank loan.-a Must be nice.
On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote: https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/business/money-report/36-year-old-makes-37000-a-year-leading-dungeons-dragons-games-if-youre-doing-it-anyway-you-might-as-well-get-paid/3294720/
36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games: If
ayou're doing it anyway, you might as well' get paid
By Mike Winters,CNBC and Raffi Paul,CNBC...
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/business/money-report/36-year-old-makes-37000-a-year-leading-dungeons-dragons-games-if-youre-doing-it-anyway-you-might-as-well-get-paid/3294720/On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games: If
rCyyou're doing it anyway, you might as well' get paid
By Mike Winters,CNBC and Raffi Paul,CNBC...
Personally, I can't imagine anything worse than making my hobby my
job. It turns the thing I enjoy most into something I /have/ to do.
One of the reasons I enjoy the things I do is that I /don't/ have to
them. The worst parts of DMing are that feeling of obligation trying
to pump out the next adventure; that you're players are waiting on you
to create another interesting and fun experience. Especially when
there's a deadline ("Oh god, we're meeting up to play in TWO days and
I haven't even started the final dungeon!!!").
Throw in the idea that people are PAYING me for the privilege? I'd go
nuts. Not to mention, I'm sure quality and experimentalism would go
down. Can't take risks, not if you want that filthy lucre to keep
coming in; just pump out pablum.
DM for money? No thank you. Not me.
On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
Personally, I can't imagine anything worse than making my hobby my
job. It turns the thing I enjoy most into something I /have/ to do.
One of the reasons I enjoy the things I do is that I /don't/ have to
them. The worst parts of DMing are that feeling of obligation trying
to pump out the next adventure; that you're players are waiting on you
to create another interesting and fun experience. Especially when
there's a deadline ("Oh god, we're meeting up to play in TWO days and
I haven't even started the final dungeon!!!").
Throw in the idea that people are PAYING me for the privilege? I'd go
nuts. Not to mention, I'm sure quality and experimentalism would go
down. Can't take risks, not if you want that filthy lucre to keep
coming in; just pump out pablum.
DM for money? No thank you. Not me.
On 4/26/2024 5:22 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/business/money-report/36-year-old-makes-37000-a-year-leading-dungeons-dragons-games-if-youre-doing-it-anyway-you-might-as-well-get-paid/3294720/On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games: If
ayou're doing it anyway, you might as well' get paid
By Mike Winters,CNBC and Raffi Paul,CNBC...
Personally, I can't imagine anything worse than making my hobby my
job. It turns the thing I enjoy most into something I /have/ to do.
One of the reasons I enjoy the things I do is that I /don't/ have to
them. The worst parts of DMing are that feeling of obligation trying
to pump out the next adventure; that you're players are waiting on you
to create another interesting and fun experience. Especially when
there's a deadline ("Oh god, we're meeting up to play in TWO days and
I haven't even started the final dungeon!!!").
Throw in the idea that people are PAYING me for the privilege? I'd go
nuts. Not to mention, I'm sure quality and experimentalism would go
down. Can't take risks, not if you want that filthy lucre to keep
coming in; just pump out pablum.
DM for money? No thank you. Not me.
there was the idea floating around at one point that players would
actually chip in some money for every session so the DM could afford
buying all those expensive books. But I never saw it done properly.
On 4/26/2024 5:22 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/business/money-report/36-year-old-makes-37000-a-year-leading-dungeons-dragons-games-if-youre-doing-it-anyway-you-might-as-well-get-paid/3294720/On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games: If
rCyyou're doing it anyway, you might as well' get paid
By Mike Winters,CNBC and Raffi Paul,CNBC...
Personally, I can't imagine anything worse than making my hobby my
job. It turns the thing I enjoy most into something I /have/ to do.
One of the reasons I enjoy the things I do is that I /don't/ have to
them. The worst parts of DMing are that feeling of obligation trying
to pump out the next adventure; that you're players are waiting on you
to create another interesting and fun experience. Especially when
there's a deadline ("Oh god, we're meeting up to play in TWO days and
I haven't even started the final dungeon!!!").
Throw in the idea that people are PAYING me for the privilege? I'd go
nuts. Not to mention, I'm sure quality and experimentalism would go
down. Can't take risks, not if you want that filthy lucre to keep
coming in; just pump out pablum.
DM for money? No thank you. Not me.
there was the idea floating around at one point that players would
actually chip in some money for every session so the DM could afford
buying all those expensive books. But I never saw it done properly.
On 4/26/2024 4:02 PM, Kyonshi wrote:
On 4/26/2024 5:22 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
there was the idea floating around at one point that players would
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/business/money-report/36-year-old-makes-37000-a-year-leading-dungeons-dragons-games-if-youre-doing-it-anyway-you-might-as-well-get-paid/3294720/On 4/25/2024 10:49 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
36-year-old makes $37,000 a year leading Dungeons & Dragons games: If >>>>> ayou're doing it anyway, you might as well' get paid
By Mike Winters,CNBC and Raffi Paul,CNBC...
Personally, I can't imagine anything worse than making my hobby my
job. It turns the thing I enjoy most into something I /have/ to do.
One of the reasons I enjoy the things I do is that I /don't/ have to
them. The worst parts of DMing are that feeling of obligation trying
to pump out the next adventure; that you're players are waiting on you
to create another interesting and fun experience. Especially when
there's a deadline ("Oh god, we're meeting up to play in TWO days and
I haven't even started the final dungeon!!!").
Throw in the idea that people are PAYING me for the privilege? I'd go
nuts. Not to mention, I'm sure quality and experimentalism would go
down. Can't take risks, not if you want that filthy lucre to keep
coming in; just pump out pablum.
DM for money? No thank you. Not me.
actually chip in some money for every session so the DM could afford
buying all those expensive books. But I never saw it done properly.
Never saw that, but I did get splat books as gifts. Of course the rule
I had I wouldn't allow anything in a splat book unless I owned it,
probably helped, along with a free pass to try anything once if you were
the one who bought it for me. :D
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