• What is allowed in a tournament?

    From Piter De Vries@horchata12839@gmail.com to rec.games.chess.misc on Tue May 13 08:52:12 2025
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    If I began incorporating a dice roll to my game, would I be allowed to
    bring in a couple six sided dice?
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.games.chess.misc on Tue May 13 15:01:35 2025
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    Piter De Vries wrote:
    If I began incorporating a dice roll to my game, would I be allowed to
    bring in a couple six sided dice?

    As your opponent, I would encourage it.

    William Hyde
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  • From Piter De Vries@horchata12839@gmail.com to rec.games.chess.misc on Tue May 13 22:51:07 2025
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    William Hyde wrote:
    Piter De Vries wrote:
    If I began incorporating a dice roll to my game, would I be allowed to
    bring in a couple six sided dice?

    As your opponent, I would encourage it.

    William Hyde

    Maybe you are right. I'm finding two priorities that I need to work on,
    both, and rolling dice was my first instinct. However it's pretty easy
    to approximate such a dice roll. And since I just recognized the second priority I should focus on it even more than normal to get better at it
    and bring it more into play.

    I'd rather not reveal any more than that. I think I've already given
    away too much of my game.
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.games.chess.misc on Wed May 14 16:26:04 2025
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    Piter De Vries wrote:
    William Hyde wrote:
    Piter De Vries wrote:
    If I began incorporating a dice roll to my game, would I be allowed
    to bring in a couple six sided dice?

    As your opponent, I would encourage it.

    William Hyde

    Maybe you are right.-a I'm finding two priorities that I need to work on, both, and rolling dice was my first instinct.-a However it's pretty easy
    to approximate such a dice roll.-a And since I just recognized the second priority I should focus on it even more than normal to get better at it
    and bring it more into play.

    I'd rather not reveal any more than that.-a I think I've already given
    away too much of my game.

    There are various rules for chess with dice, or a die. But with both
    players rolling, not one.

    The version I've most often played numbers the different types of piece
    from one to six. A die is rolled and you must move a piece of that type
    if you can, if you cannot, roll again.


    Thus in the opening position only rolls of 5 (knight) or 6 (pawn) apply.

    In other versions of the game you lose your turn if the piece rolled
    cannot move. This tends to reduce the skill in the game and I do not
    favour it myself.

    Some sources claim that this was how chess was originally played. I am
    not convinced.

    William Hyde
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.games.chess.misc on Fri May 16 11:34:28 2025
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    On Tue, 13 May 2025 22:51:07 -0500, Piter De Vries
    <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:

    William Hyde wrote:
    Piter De Vries wrote:
    If I began incorporating a dice roll to my game, would I be allowed to
    bring in a couple six sided dice?

    As your opponent, I would encourage it.

    William Hyde

    Maybe you are right. I'm finding two priorities that I need to work on, >both, and rolling dice was my first instinct. However it's pretty easy
    to approximate such a dice roll. And since I just recognized the second >priority I should focus on it even more than normal to get better at it
    and bring it more into play.

    I'd rather not reveal any more than that. I think I've already given
    away too much of my game.

    The serious answer is that no tournament director would complain about
    two dice simply being placed at the side of the board but would
    quickly intervene if it was disturbing your opponent or other players.

    Same answer if you brought your trumpet to a game - as a director I'd
    never intervene if it didn't create a safety risk or disturbed any
    players in the room.

    (I well remember the time when a president of the Chess Federation of
    Canada was playing in a tournament I was directing - well assistant
    actually - and during his game his lunch reacted badly and he lurched
    from the board and raced to the mens' room where the entire tournament
    heard him losing his lunch. It was an excellent venue but had poor
    acoustics for a tournament...he and his opponent quickly agreed to a
    draw - and in fairness while the game wasn't over, it did look drawish
    even if he wasn't ill)
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.games.chess.misc on Fri May 16 17:27:18 2025
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    The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 13 May 2025 22:51:07 -0500, Piter De Vries
    <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:

    William Hyde wrote:
    Piter De Vries wrote:
    If I began incorporating a dice roll to my game, would I be allowed to >>>> bring in a couple six sided dice?

    As your opponent, I would encourage it.

    William Hyde

    Maybe you are right. I'm finding two priorities that I need to work on,
    both, and rolling dice was my first instinct. However it's pretty easy
    to approximate such a dice roll. And since I just recognized the second
    priority I should focus on it even more than normal to get better at it
    and bring it more into play.

    I'd rather not reveal any more than that. I think I've already given
    away too much of my game.

    The serious answer is that no tournament director would complain about
    two dice simply being placed at the side of the board but would
    quickly intervene if it was disturbing your opponent or other players.

    Same answer if you brought your trumpet to a game - as a director I'd
    never intervene if it didn't create a safety risk or disturbed any
    players in the room.

    Yes, but you are a sane director.

    A director who used to post here disagreed with my decision to allow a
    medical student to read medical texts while playing a game, as the USCF
    manual does not allow a player to "Consult written material".

    As a person who frequently studied math during tournament games, I have
    little sympathy with this view. Reading on tensors or liver function
    does not fit with the word "consult".

    I might have cited the precedent of Dus-Khotmirsky, who beat Lasker in
    the St Petersburg 1909 event while allegedly reading a Japanese
    translation of "Also Sprach Zarathustra".

    The medical student's opponent came far closer to a draw than anyone
    would have expected, given the 550 point rating difference. I thought I
    had played well in one of the games in which I studied while he was
    thinking, but later analysis revealed that this was very much not so.
    I'd missed a simple win in the opening.

    Apparently old Dus was a better multi-tasker than we were.

    William Hyde



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