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Magnus Carlsen takes on Arkady Dvorkovich using the freestyle opening.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/feb/04/magnus-carlsen-calls-international-chess-president-quit-arkady-dvorkovich-freestyle-grand-slam

Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting plenty of
publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling tickets for these
events now.
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

Magnus Carlsen takes on Arkady Dvorkovich using the freestyle opening.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/feb/04/magnus-carlsen-calls-international-chess-president-quit-arkady-dvorkovich-freestyle-grand-slam

Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling tickets for these
events now.

Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call their project
World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a copyright on those words is absurd.


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D wrote:

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting
plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling
tickets for these events now.

Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call
their project World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a
copyright on those words is absurd.

The "Freestyle Chess" organisers backed down in the end, and
their champion will not be called the "World Champion".

For the bigger picture and chess overall this was the right
thing to do. A war conducted through social media was not really
the way to go. All of the discussions should have been behind
closed doors enabling FIDE and the "Freestyle Chess" organisers
(Magnus) to resolve this issue quietly. Whilst we all love the
drama and YouTube content, if you are launching a new chess
tournament all publicity might be seen as good publicity, but
if it damages the image of chess to the wider public then it's
definitely not good.
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

D wrote:

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting
plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling
tickets for these events now.

Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call
their project World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a
copyright on those words is absurd.

The "Freestyle Chess" organisers backed down in the end, and
their champion will not be called the "World Champion".

This is sad.

For the bigger picture and chess overall this was the right
thing to do. A war conducted through social media was not really

I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism might have served to propel it into the 21st century!

the way to go. All of the discussions should have been behind
closed doors enabling FIDE and the "Freestyle Chess" organisers
(Magnus) to resolve this issue quietly. Whilst we all love the
drama and YouTube content, if you are launching a new chess
tournament all publicity might be seen as good publicity, but
if it damages the image of chess to the wider public then it's
definitely not good.

But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of 960 or what ever they call it. Different thing.
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D wrote:

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

D wrote:

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is getting
plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any problem selling
tickets for these events now.

Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call
their project World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a
copyright on those words is absurd.

The "Freestyle Chess" organisers backed down in the end, and
their champion will not be called the "World Champion".

This is sad.

For the bigger picture and chess overall this was the right
thing to do. A war conducted through social media was not really

I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism might
have served to propel it into the 21st century!

the way to go. All of the discussions should have been behind
closed doors enabling FIDE and the "Freestyle Chess" organisers
(Magnus) to resolve this issue quietly. Whilst we all love the
drama and YouTube content, if you are launching a new chess
tournament all publicity might be seen as good publicity, but
if it damages the image of chess to the wider public then it's
definitely not good.

But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of 960 or
what ever they call it. Different thing.

Don't they use 8-sided dice to setup the board?
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D wrote:

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

D wrote:

On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Silver Skull wrote:

Whatever happens, this new freestyle chess tour is
getting plenty of publicity. They shouldn't have any
problem selling tickets for these events now.

Fascinating! I think it is nonsense that they cannot call
their project World Championship. That FIDE thinks it has a
copyright on those words is absurd.

The "Freestyle Chess" organisers backed down in the end, and
their champion will not be called the "World Champion".

This is sad.

Common sense broke out!

For the bigger picture and chess overall this was the right
thing to do. A war conducted through social media was not
really the way to go.

I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism
might have served to propel it into the 21st century!

FIDE are definitely out of touch with the younger generations
and the appeal of the non-classical formats. A compromise should
have been worked out weeks ago.

All of the discussions should have been behind closed
doors enabling FIDE and the "Freestyle Chess" organisers
(Magnus) to resolve this issue quietly. Whilst we all
love the drama and YouTube content, if you are launching
a new chess tournament all publicity might be seen as good
publicity, but if it damages the image of chess to the wider
public then it's definitely not good.

But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of
960 or what ever they call it. Different thing.

Yes, it is different and FIDE were in the wrong. They were
obviously worried about there being rival chess "world
champions"... especially with a series of tournaments co-founded
and backed by Magnus Carlsen. I'm not saying FIDE are right, I'm
saying the negotiations regarding this issue should have been
done behind closed doors, not via X/Facebook/YouTube... it is
one game [chess] after all. Sensible people should be able to
work out that the Freestyle/Chess960 World Champion is not the
FIDE World Chess Champion. But a public war benefits nobody in
the game.
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism
might have served to propel it into the 21st century!

FIDE are definitely out of touch with the younger generations
and the appeal of the non-classical formats. A compromise should
have been worked out weeks ago.

This is the truth!

But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of
960 or what ever they call it. Different thing.

Yes, it is different and FIDE were in the wrong. They were
obviously worried about there being rival chess "world
champions"... especially with a series of tournaments co-founded
and backed by Magnus Carlsen. I'm not saying FIDE are right, I'm

This is the truth!

saying the negotiations regarding this issue should have been
done behind closed doors, not via X/Facebook/YouTube... it is

This is also the truth! I think the leadership of FIDE is immature. Magnus is a savant and of course does not know the nuances of good behaviour, or at best, has to fight to consciously emulate it. FIDE bosses seem to be either immature, or use the russian brutalist approach to conflict resolution which does not work
in the west.

one game [chess] after all. Sensible people should be able to
work out that the Freestyle/Chess960 World Champion is not the
FIDE World Chess Champion. But a public war benefits nobody in
the game.

Depends on the outcome. Maybe... things will turn out for the better?
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D wrote:

On Fri, 7 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

I'm not sure. Clearly FIDE is out of touch so I think a schism
might have served to propel it into the 21st century!

FIDE are definitely out of touch with the younger generations
and the appeal of the non-classical formats. A compromise should
have been worked out weeks ago.

This is the truth!

But it is not world champion of chess, it is world champion of
960 or what ever they call it. Different thing.

Yes, it is different and FIDE were in the wrong. They were
obviously worried about there being rival chess "world
champions"... especially with a series of tournaments co-founded
and backed by Magnus Carlsen. I'm not saying FIDE are right, I'm

This is the truth!

saying the negotiations regarding this issue should have been
done behind closed doors, not via X/Facebook/YouTube... it is

This is also the truth! I think the leadership of FIDE is immature.
Magnus is a
savant and of course does not know the nuances of good behaviour, or at best,
has to fight to consciously emulate it. FIDE bosses seem to be either immature,
or use the russian brutalist approach to conflict resolution which does
not work
in the west.

one game [chess] after all. Sensible people should be able to
work out that the Freestyle/Chess960 World Champion is not the
FIDE World Chess Champion. But a public war benefits nobody in
the game.

Depends on the outcome. Maybe... things will turn out for the better?

Yes, you talk of keeping it quiet but this is the biggest news in chess
since Deep Blue soundly defeated Anatoly Karpov. Bobby Fischer spoke of
this kind of chess long ago, but it has taken some 40 yrs for it to
coalesce into a rule set. Frankly, I didn't think it was ever going to happen. Can you imagine what must have shaken chess up to add en
passant castling etcetera. Something will come of this and it is going
to change the rules again. You use 960 on it in derogatory I think but
you need to realize that Bobby Fischer explained the need for '960'. I believe in his reason. Bobby Fischer is no hero in chess, but he was intensely potent. This isn't going to just blow away with the winds of
time. Keeping it quiet is futile. And lastly, ultimately FIDE is
irrelevant to the future of chess. They are like King James overseeing
a bible writing. And that's just poor taste. You see where I'm coming
from if FIDE makes the wrong choice then let the child speak. I guess I
want 960 to experience a fruitful run. Maybe we'll see it on some of
the chess sites like lichess.org and gameknot.com. I don't want it to
be quietly executed like Koshoggi and his Apple Watch, because it is
more valuable than that. I know I know you are going to say you can't understand me, I WANT TO PLAY 960.
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Tahitian pearl wrote:

I guess I want 960 to experience a fruitful run. Maybe
we'll see it on some of the chess sites like
lichess.org and gameknot.com.

Chess960 is on the big chess sites, and has been for years...
I'm always getting beaten on chess.com whenever I play chess 960.

It is a fun format though and maybe it will see a lot more
growth now because of this new "Freestyle Chess" tour.

Watching the actual games from Germany yesterday afternoon on
chess.com with everyone talking at the same time like
over-excited school children did drive me mad though...
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

Tahitian pearl wrote:

I guess I want 960 to experience a fruitful run. Maybe
we'll see it on some of the chess sites like
lichess.org and gameknot.com.

Chess960 is on the big chess sites, and has been for years...
I'm always getting beaten on chess.com whenever I play chess 960.

It is a fun format though and maybe it will see a lot more
growth now because of this new "Freestyle Chess" tour.

Watching the actual games from Germany yesterday afternoon on
chess.com with everyone talking at the same time like
over-excited school children did drive me mad though...

Hmm, interesting. Maybe I should give it a change! =)
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