• A gambler's double?

    From peps...@gmail.com@pepstein5@gmail.com to rec.games.backgammon on Mon Jan 1 13:26:26 2024
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    I'm puzzled as to why my double below is so weak. 3s look crushing
    and even my 25% of dances leave the game fairly even with XG's evaluation
    for me being -0.2.
    Hits look like big market losers and the opponent has an enormous
    amount of work to do to escape my prime.
    Furthermore, I'm behind in the match which seems to suggest doubling
    more readily than for money.
    Why is the double bad? I was very confident in the double and unsure
    whether XG would even take.
    Interestingly, the extra outfield blot doesn't increase my hitting probability Any 3 including combos hits -- 7/18 probability, and this would be true
    even if XG's outfield blot was removed.

    Paul

    XGID=-a--BBBBC-----baAb-ccbaB-A:1:1:1:00:0:2:0:11:10

    X:Daniel O:XG Roller+
    Score is X:0 O:2 11 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O X O | | O O O O X |
    | O O | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | |
    | | X | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X | | | +---+
    | X X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 155 O: 116 X-O: 0-2/11
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

    Analyzed in XG Roller+
    Player Winning Chances: 56.57% (G:14.64% B:0.75%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 43.43% (G:17.34% B:1.02%)

    Cubeless Equities: No Double=+0.112, Double=+0.349

    Cubeful Equities:
    No redouble: +0.415
    Redouble/Take: +0.248 (-0.167)
    Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.585)

    Best Cube action: No redouble / Take
    Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 18.2%

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10, MET: Kazaross XG2
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  • From Timothy Chow@tchow12000@yahoo.com to rec.games.backgammon on Mon Jan 1 17:55:04 2024
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    On 1/1/2024 4:26 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
    I'm puzzled as to why my double below is so weak. 3s look crushing
    and even my 25% of dances leave the game fairly even with XG's evaluation
    for me being -0.2.
    Hits look like big market losers and the opponent has an enormous
    amount of work to do to escape my prime.
    Furthermore, I'm behind in the match which seems to suggest doubling
    more readily than for money.
    Why is the double bad? I was very confident in the double and unsure
    whether XG would even take.

    You're right that the score makes you a lot more eager to redouble
    than for money.

    But I think what you may be underestimating is your opponent's
    counter-priming potential. Let's say you roll 32, which you'd be pretty
    happy with since it enters with a hit. You play bar/22* 8/6, and now
    your opponent has some rolls that enter and hit. Say your opponent
    rolls 32 as well, and hits. You still have an advantage but not much
    of one, because of your opponent's counter-priming potential.

    ---
    Tim Chow

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