Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
On 9/24/2026 7:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and
potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
Sounds better than my dinner.-a DIL sent over some Shepard's Pie. It was
OK and I didn't have to cook.
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
Sausage and potatoes, YUM!
It was bacon and tomato sandwiches here with mayo on toasted bread.
Last night we had a sausage surprise. When I was at the Italian butcher
last week I ordered some mild Italian sausage. I prefer it with a little
zip but the hot is too hot. I was frying up peppers and onion to go with sausage on a bun and my wife suggesting using up a jalapeno to liven it
up a little, so I did. When I bit into it I got a rude surprise. I
thought maybe the jalapeno was a lot hotter than I had expected. Then I
had a bite of sausage only. Wow it was hot. I checked the wrapper. It
said it was mild sausage, so I guess it was their mistake not mine. I
wish there was something between the mild and hot sausage.
Takeout from ApplebeerCOs. my wife and her bestie went there for lunch today. I havenrCOt looked to see what it is. <BURP!> Efye
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Last night we had a sausage surprise. When I was at the Italian butcher
last week I ordered some mild Italian sausage. I prefer it with a little
zip but the hot is too hot. I was frying up peppers and onion to go with
sausage on a bun and my wife suggesting using up a jalapeno to liven it
up a little, so I did. When I bit into it I got a rude surprise. I
thought maybe the jalapeno was a lot hotter than I had expected. Then I
had a bite of sausage only. Wow it was hot. I checked the wrapper. It
said it was mild sausage, so I guess it was their mistake not mine. I
wish there was something between the mild and hot sausage.
I see 'sweet' offered here but it certainly doesn't taste sweet. MaybeYou're right. It is not sweet. I wonder if maybe it is a translation
that's meant to mean extra mild. I dunno.
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
Takeout from ApplebeerCOs. my wife and her bestie went there for lunch today. I havenrCOt looked to see what it is. <BURP!> Efye
Sometime you should jump in the car and go with them!
On 2026-09-24 9:40 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
You're right. It is not sweet. I wonder if maybe it is a translation
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Last night we had a sausage surprise. When I was at the Italian butcher
last week I ordered some mild Italian sausage. I prefer it with a little >>> zip but the hot is too hot. I was frying up peppers and onion to go with >>> sausage on a bun and my wife suggesting using up a jalapeno to liven it
up a little, so I did. When I bit into it I got a rude surprise. I
thought maybe the jalapeno was a lot hotter than I had expected. Then I
had a bite of sausage only. Wow it was hot. I checked the wrapper. It
said it was mild sausage, so I guess it was their mistake not mine. I
wish there was something between the mild and hot sausage.
I see 'sweet' offered here but it certainly doesn't taste sweet. Maybe
that's meant to mean extra mild. I dunno.
issue and it refers to it being mild or soft. I don't mind the sweet
except that sometimes the whole fennel seed is a little overpowering.
The hot sausage, OTOH, is too hot. I want something about halfway between.
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
On 9/24/2026 7:12 PM, jmcquown wrote:
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and
potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
Sounds better than my dinner.-a DIL sent over some Shepard's Pie. It was
OK and I didn't have to cook.
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
Takeout from ApplebeerCOs. my wife and her bestie went there for lunch today. I havenrCOt looked to see what it is. <BURP!> Efye
Sometime you should jump in the car and go with them!
~
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Then I
had a bite of sausage only. Wow it was hot. I checked the wrapper. It
said it was mild sausage, so I guess it was their mistake not mine. I
wish there was something between the mild and hot sausage.
I see 'sweet' offered here but it certainly doesn't taste sweet. Maybe
that's meant to mean extra mild. I dunno.
On 2026-09-24 9:44 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Nah. It is not a great experience to be at a table with two or more
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
Takeout from ApplebeerCOs. my wife and her bestie went there for lunch today. I havenrCOt looked to see what it is. <BURP!> Efye
Sometime you should jump in the car and go with them!
women who want to talk and catch up.
On Sep 24, 2026 at 4:12rC>PM, jmcquown wrote:
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
Takeout from ApplebeerCOs. my wife and her bestie went there for lunch today. I havenrCOt looked to see what it is. <BURP!> Efye
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I went to Applebee's on the mainland.
Are you from Hawaii?
I cooked up a sirloin steak. The steak was pretty ordinary. My guess is that's
the future of steak i.e., not well marbled and not tender. The steak was Jaccarded and seasoned with Montreal steak seasoning. The Jaccarding makes for
a steak that cooks about 30% faster. It makes it harder to cook a steak med. rare because it's so fast. After letting it sit a while, it was finished with teriyaki sauce.
I went to Applebee's on the mainland.
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I cooked up a sirloin steak. The steak was pretty ordinary. My guess is that's
the future of steak i.e., not well marbled and not tender. The steak was Jaccarded and seasoned with Montreal steak seasoning. The Jaccarding makes for
a steak that cooks about 30% faster. It makes it harder to cook a steak med.
rare because it's so fast. After letting it sit a while, it was finished with
teriyaki sauce.
That looks delicious. I have a gas burner/hob and I am trying to wean
myself of cast iron and carbon steel pans and really learn the art of stainless steel clad pans. The right temp, the right fat, the right heat, the willingness to leave the protein alone long enough that it
self-releases and then stuff doesn't stick. I quite love it.
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I went to Applebee's on the mainland.
Are you from Hawaii?
On 2026-09-24 9:40 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I see 'sweet' offered here but it certainly doesn't taste sweet. Maybe that's meant to mean extra mild. I dunno.
BTW I had another issue with the spice last night. I am going to get measured up for lenses in two weeks so I had to start taking some eye
drops, one in each eye four times a day. I almost forgot last night so I
did it just before bed. I got a bulls eye in eye but I was less accurate with the other and had some excess flowing along my lower lid. I
immediately wipe it with my finger. It was the finger that I had uses to scrape the pith and seeds out of the hot pepper. I had washed my hands
after preparing that stuff and again before dinner. Apparently I had not washed them well enough to remove that powerful pepper heat.
Good thing it was only a jalapeno.
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
That looks delicious. I have a gas burner/hob and I am trying to wean myself of cast iron and carbon steel pans and really learn the art of stainless steel clad pans. The right temp, the right fat, the right heat, the willingness to leave the protein alone long enough that it self-releases and then stuff doesn't stick. I quite love it.
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
That looks delicious. I have a gas burner/hob and I am trying to wean myself of cast iron and carbon steel pans and really learn the art of stainless steel clad pans. The right temp, the right fat, the right heat,
the willingness to leave the protein alone long enough that it self-releases and then stuff doesn't stick. I quite love it.
Why are you trying to wean yourself off cast iron?
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come
up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if they immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and ready for the oil of your choice.
~
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if they
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
I'll try to remember that.
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
That looks delicious. I have a gas burner/hob and I am trying to wean
myself of cast iron and carbon steel pans and really learn the art of
stainless steel clad pans. The right temp, the right fat, the right heat, >>>> the willingness to leave the protein alone long enough that it
self-releases and then stuff doesn't stick. I quite love it.
Why are you trying to wean yourself off cast iron?
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come
up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at >> the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your
fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if they >> immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and
skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and >> ready for the oil of your choice.
~
I'll try to remember that.
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
You probably did not use enough butter/oil.
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come >> up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at >> the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your >> fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if theyI'll try to remember that.
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and >> skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling water for coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
There are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban.
On 9/25/2026 4:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
That looks delicious. I have a gas burner/hob and I am trying to wean >>>> myself of cast iron and carbon steel pans and really learn the art of >>>> stainless steel clad pans. The right temp, the right fat, the right heat,
the willingness to leave the protein alone long enough that it
self-releases and then stuff doesn't stick. I quite love it.
Why are you trying to wean yourself off cast iron?
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
You probably did not use enough butter/oil.>>
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come >> up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at >> the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your >> fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if they
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and >> skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
~
I'll try to remember that.
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling water for coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
There are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
>
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
You probably did not use enough butter/oil.
Preheating an empty clad (tri-ply) stainless steel pan is the solution
to prevent sticking of foods.
>There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come >>>> up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at >>>> the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your >>>> fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if theyI'll try to remember that.
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and >>>> skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling water for
coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those 20-ounce cans of propane. I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be larger,
it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint. Handy little gizmos to have.
There are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't
even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban.
We're dry as bone here as well.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 9/25/2026 4:32 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
That looks delicious. I have a gas burner/hob and I am trying to wean >>>>>> myself of cast iron and carbon steel pans and really learn the art of >>>>>> stainless steel clad pans. The right temp, the right fat, the right heat,
the willingness to leave the protein alone long enough that it
self-releases and then stuff doesn't stick. I quite love it.
Why are you trying to wean yourself off cast iron?
Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
You probably did not use enough butter/oil.>>
>There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come >>>> up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at >>>> the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your >>>> fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if they
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and >>>> skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
~
I'll try to remember that.
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling water for
coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
There are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't
even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban. >>
Wild berries are nice. You don't see a lot of them around here. There's too many people milling around looking for stuff to eat.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
There are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't
even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban. >>
Wild berries are nice. You don't see a lot of them around here. There's too many people milling around looking for stuff to eat.
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I went to Applebee's on the mainland.
Are you from Hawaii?
That would be putting it mildly.
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel. Let the pan come
up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan. When you think it's at the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if they immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot. If those drops dance and skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right temperature and ready for the oil of your choice.
On 9/26/2026 1:33 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling water for >> coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those 20-ounce cans of propane. I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be larger,
it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint. Handy little gizmos to have.
We've got one of these that runs on the 16oz tanks. We've used it many times.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Brand-Matchlight-10-000-BTU-2-Burner-Propane-Stove-black/895629
The new one is one of these. Instead of the 2 little 10,000BTU burners,
it puts out up to 65,000. Of course, we don't turn it up high to cook
eggs, but it sure boiled the water fast.https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/gas-one-high-pressure-single-propane-burner-2438812
There are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't >> even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban.
We're dry as bone here as well.
We had to drive back 150+ miles on the donut tire at <50MPH. Since
WalMart doesn't normally stock that tire, in order to get it free with
the road hazard warranty, I had to order it shipped to store from walmart.com, and after they replace it, they refund the cost.
Our $58 (AARP discount) WalMart+ membership gets free road hazard on all tires. https://www.walmart.com/help/article/walmart-benefits-auto-care/9b7deb0aa485427fa605fbcd05bd2e62
It also gives access to Sam's Club gas pumps, free deliveries and "scan
and go" at WM, where the checkout lines can really suck.
Are you from Hawaii?
That would be true. Here's what I had for breakfast.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 9/26/2026 1:33 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
>
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling water for >>>> coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those
20-ounce cans of propane. I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be larger, >>> it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint. Handy little gizmos >>> to have.
We've got one of these that runs on the 16oz tanks. We've used it many
times.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Brand-Matchlight-10-000-BTU-2-Burner-Propane-Stove-black/895629
Here's the one I have and the bottled gas last good while if you're judicious with its' use. No rip roaring, high as it will go flames.
The new one is one of these. Instead of the 2 little 10,000BTU burners,
it puts out up to 65,000. Of course, we don't turn it up high to cook
eggs, but it sure boiled the water
fast.https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/gas-one-high-pressure-single-propane-burner-2438812
Does that use one of those looks to be about a half-gallon tanks of gas?
We had to drive back 150+ miles on the donut tire at <50MPH. SinceThere are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't >>>> even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban.
We're dry as bone here as well.
WalMart doesn't normally stock that tire, in order to get it free with
the road hazard warranty, I had to order it shipped to store from
walmart.com, and after they replace it, they refund the cost.
Our $58 (AARP discount) WalMart+ membership gets free road hazard on all
tires.
https://www.walmart.com/help/article/walmart-benefits-auto-care/9b7deb0aa485427fa605fbcd05bd2e62
It also gives access to Sam's Club gas pumps, free deliveries and "scan
and go" at WM, where the checkout lines can really suck.
You had a flat tire???
I've never looked at my spare tire and I'm pretty sure it's one of those donut tires, too. -aEfy2-a-a-a-a-a-aIt could be worse, I guess, not having a tire
at all. I enrolled in Triple A 10+ years ago and have only used it once. (New battery)
~
You sound like a meticulous kind of guy. I use a butane burner and Korean malfan
cast aluminum pans. It's a super fast setup. Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
All-Clad Master Chef and LTD are discontinued, heavy-duty tri-ply pans praised for exceptional heat distribution. Both feature a non-reactive
18/10 stainless steel interior cooking surface and a thick, highly responsive aluminum core that heats evenly. The main difference lies in
the exterior: Master Chef has a raw, industrial brushed aluminum finish, whereas LTD features a stylized black hard-anodized aluminum exterior. Neither line is induction-compatible or dishwasher-safe.
On Sat, 26 Sep 2026, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I went to Applebee's on the mainland.
Are you from Hawaii?
That would be putting it mildly.
Me: 1976-1988; 1990; 1992; 1995-1996.
6 year old haole single child.
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
You sound like a meticulous kind of guy. I use a butane burner and Korean malfan
cast aluminum pans. It's a super fast setup. Clad stainless steel is pretty slick
although frying an egg in one is something I haven't been successful at. Maybe
one day...
A light and thick commercial aluminum pan: nothing's better.
This is what I use:
All-Clad Master Chef and LTD are discontinued, heavy-duty tri-ply pans praised for exceptional heat distribution. Both feature a non-reactive 18/10 stainless steel interior cooking surface and a thick, highly responsive aluminum core that heats evenly. The main difference lies in the exterior: Master Chef has a raw, industrial brushed aluminum finish, whereas LTD features a stylized black hard-anodized aluminum exterior. Neither line is induction-compatible or dishwasher-safe.
So they're old pans I get off of eBay because they're not
induction-friendly so they're cheap and awesome and bomb proof and not pretty. They're not clad so much as thick aluminum pans lined with a stainless cooking surface.
Cooking eggs? Low, slow, and lots of fat, and then you need to wait until the stailness naturally releases. Then it slides like a puck...
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 9/26/2026 1:33 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
>
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling water for >>>> coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those
20-ounce cans of propane. I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be larger, >>> it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint. Handy little gizmos >>> to have.
We've got one of these that runs on the 16oz tanks. We've used it many
times.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Brand-Matchlight-10-000-BTU-2-Burner-Propane-Stove-black/895629
Here's the one I have and the bottled gas last good while if you're judicious with its' use. No rip roaring, high as it will go flames.
The new one is one of these. Instead of the 2 little 10,000BTU burners,
it puts out up to 65,000. Of course, we don't turn it up high to cook
eggs, but it sure boiled the water
fast.https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/gas-one-high-pressure-single-propane-burner-2438812
Does that use one of those looks to be about a half-gallon tanks of gas?
We had to drive back 150+ miles on the donut tire at <50MPH. SinceThere are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too,
though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We couldn't >>>> even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide burn ban.
We're dry as bone here as well.
WalMart doesn't normally stock that tire, in order to get it free with
the road hazard warranty, I had to order it shipped to store from
walmart.com, and after they replace it, they refund the cost.
Our $58 (AARP discount) WalMart+ membership gets free road hazard on all
tires.
https://www.walmart.com/help/article/walmart-benefits-auto-care/9b7deb0aa485427fa605fbcd05bd2e62
It also gives access to Sam's Club gas pumps, free deliveries and "scan
and go" at WM, where the checkout lines can really suck.
You had a flat tire???
I've never looked at my spare tire and I'm pretty sure it's one of those donut tires, too. -aEfy2
It could be worse, I guess, not having a tire
at all. I enrolled in Triple A 10+ years ago and have only used it once. (New battery)
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote on 9/26/2026 6:00 PM:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 9/26/2026 1:33 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
-a >
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
First time trying the new gas burner. It did great for boiling
water for
coffee and cooking eggs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ArErbWnR2ZRHqnhC9
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those >>>> 20-ounce cans of propane.-a I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be
larger,
it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint.-a Handy little >>>> gizmos
to have.
We've got one of these that runs on the 16oz tanks. We've used it many
times.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Brand-Matchlight-10-000-BTU-2-
Burner-Propane-Stove-black/895629
Here's the one I have and the bottled gas last good while if you're
judicious
with its' use.-a No rip roaring, high as it will go flames.
The new one is one of these. Instead of the 2 little 10,000BTU burners,
it puts out up to 65,000. Of course, we don't turn it up high to cook
eggs, but it sure boiled the water
fast.https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/gas-one-high-pressure-
single-propane-burner-2438812
Does that use one of those looks to be about a half-gallon tanks of gas?
We had to drive back 150+ miles on the donut tire at <50MPH. SinceThere are still blackberries being produced at the sawdust pile too, >>>>> though not many, because there had been a drought out there. We
couldn't
even have a campfire at our campsite because there's a county-wide
burn ban.
We're dry as bone here as well.
WalMart doesn't normally stock that tire, in order to get it free with
the road hazard warranty, I had to order it shipped to store from
walmart.com, and after they replace it, they refund the cost.
Our $58 (AARP discount) WalMart+ membership gets free road hazard on all >>> tires.
https://www.walmart.com/help/article/walmart-benefits-auto-
care/9b7deb0aa485427fa605fbcd05bd2e62
It also gives access to Sam's Club gas pumps, free deliveries and "scan
and go" at WM, where the checkout lines can really suck.
You had a flat tire???
I've never looked at my spare tire and I'm pretty sure it's one of those
donut tires, too.-a -aEfy2-a-a-a-a-a-aIt could be worse, I guess, not having a tire
at all.-a I enrolled in Triple A 10+ years ago and have only used it once. >> (New battery)
~
Chef is in da Loo.-a It's a lot tougher on tires there.-a But there are other advantages that make up for it,
If you moved there, you'd have a sawdust pile for example.
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel.-a Let the pan come >> up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan.-a When you think
it's at
the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your
fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if
they
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot.-a If those drops dance and >> skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right
temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
Thank you. I am using that. Patience. Start the naked pan before
prepping. And the skittering drops. The secret to me is allowing the proteins to self-release... the Zen of stainless pans: desirelessness.
jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
Par boiled diced waxy potatoes, sauteed in a bit of oil with minced
onion and garlic, then about 1/4 lb. of sliced and diced smoked
Andouille sausage added to the pan and stirred until the sausage and
potatoes are nicely browned.
I baked a pan of cornbread to go with it.
Sausage and potatoes, YUM!
It was bacon and tomato sandwiches here with mayo on toasted bread.
~
On 9/26/2026 6:46 PM, Chris Abraham wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel.-a Let the pan come >> up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan.-a When you think
it's at
the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your >> fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if
they
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot.-a If those drops dance and >> skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right
temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
Thank you. I am using that. Patience. Start the naked pan before
prepping. And the skittering drops. The secret to me is allowing the proteins to self-release... the Zen of stainless pans: desirelessness.
Starting the naked pan, good. Starting the pan naked? Risky. I know.
On 9/26/2026 6:00 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those >>> 20-ounce cans of propane. I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be larger, >>> it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint. Handy little gizmos
to have.
We've got one of these that runs on the 16oz tanks. We've used it many
times.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Brand-Matchlight-10-000-BTU-2-Burner-Propane-Stove-black/895629
Here's the one I have and the bottled gas last good while if you're judicious
with its' use. No rip roaring, high as it will go flames.
You had a flat tire???
I've never looked at my spare tire and I'm pretty sure it's one of those donut tires, too. -aEfy2
Only Jeeps and giant trucks have full size spares, and it's been that
way for 25-30 years at least. It's a fuel economy thing.
We've had AAA+ for 17 years, and have our homeowners and car insurance
with AAA. The guy came to the State Park and put on the donut. All in
all, it took us a little over 5-1/2 hours to get home.
Dinner to take to the in-laws will be chili. I wonder how much I will
get to eat of it.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
Only Jeeps and giant trucks have full size spares, and it's been that
way for 25-30 years at least. It's a fuel economy thing.
Forty plus years ago I had two flat tires while out of town. Both were defective tires but I certainly wasn't expecting to have two failures
within 3 days. After the second flat I had to leave my car in Kentucky
about 35 +/- miles from home.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 9/26/2026 6:00 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those >>>>> 20-ounce cans of propane. I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be larger, >>>>> it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint. Handy little gizmos
to have.
We've got one of these that runs on the 16oz tanks. We've used it many >>>> times.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Brand-Matchlight-10-000-BTU-2-Burner-Propane-Stove-black/895629
Here's the one I have and the bottled gas last good while if you're judicious
with its' use. No rip roaring, high as it will go flames.
Sorry, I had a brain fart. Here it is. https://i.postimg.cc/R0xH4ccn/Butane-Stove.jpg
You had a flat tire???>
I've never looked at my spare tire and I'm pretty sure it's one of those >>> donut tires, too. -aEfy2
Only Jeeps and giant trucks have full size spares, and it's been that
way for 25-30 years at least. It's a fuel economy thing.
Forty plus years ago I had two flat tires while out of town. Both were defective tires but I certainly wasn't expecting to have two failures
within 3 days. After the second flat I had to leave my car in Kentucky
about 35 +/- miles from home.
We've had AAA+ for 17 years, and have our homeowners and car insurance
with AAA. The guy came to the State Park and put on the donut. All in
all, it took us a little over 5-1/2 hours to get home.
The one time I've used it I was glad I had it and at least this stuck somewhere
with no transportation was about 7 miles from the house. Thankfully, it was a
pleasant spring day, so no sweltering or cold with teeth chattering.
It was, and should not have been. It should have been more the size ofDinner to take to the in-laws will be chili. I wonder how much I will
get to eat of it.
I hope at least a good size bowl.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:Many cars today have no spare at all.
On 9/26/2026 6:00 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
I've got one of those portable gas burners, but mine takes one of those >>>>> 20-ounce cans of propane. I'm guessing it's 20-ounces, could be larger, >>>>> it looks to be about the size of a can of spray paint. Handy little gizmos
to have.
We've got one of these that runs on the 16oz tanks. We've used it many >>>> times.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Brand-Matchlight-10-000-BTU-2-Burner-Propane-Stove-black/895629
Here's the one I have and the bottled gas last good while if you're judicious
with its' use. No rip roaring, high as it will go flames.
Sorry, I had a brain fart. Here it is. https://i.postimg.cc/R0xH4ccn/Butane-Stove.jpg
You had a flat tire???>
I've never looked at my spare tire and I'm pretty sure it's one of those >>> donut tires, too. -aEfy2
Only Jeeps and giant trucks have full size spares, and it's been that
way for 25-30 years at least. It's a fuel economy thing.
Starting the naked pan, good.
Starting the pan naked? Risky.
On 9/27/2026 5:54 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Here's the one I have and the bottled gas last good while if you're judicious
with its' use. No rip roaring, high as it will go flames.
Sorry, I had a brain fart. Here it is. https://i.postimg.cc/R0xH4ccn/Butane-Stove.jpg
That's a nice little unit. Butane is more expensive that propane, but it
is tidier. The backpackers use it.
I misplaced my keys, and spent a few hours today in distress over it.
They were eventually found, but I'm buying an Airtag for them. If your
keys have an Airtag, and your spouse has an iPhone...
Dinner to take to the in-laws will be chili. I wonder how much I will
get to eat of it.
I hope at least a good size bowl.It was, and should not have been. It should have been more the size of
my m-i-l's *baby bear* portion. This is unpleasant, and I've already
begun dialing back the dose, but the half life is 7 days. I've moved up doses by the typical regimen, but I may need to back off more than a
little. I predict that soon, people will be microdosing this shit like crazy.
On 2026-09-27, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Starting the naked pan, good.
Starting the pan naked? Risky.
Yes, with a mis-wired electric frying pan
when the kitchen sink becomes a ground
return path via a wayward appendage.
Many cars today have no spare at all.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Many cars today have no spare at all.
I hope that's only because the owner removed the tire and not a failure
of the manufacturer to include one.
~h
On 2026-09-27 10:53 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
You have to admit to admit that there is nowhere near the need for spare >tires that there had been when we were young. Back in the 50s and 60s
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Many cars today have no spare at all.
I hope that's only because the owner removed the tire and not a failure
of the manufacturer to include one.
you had to be sure to have a good spare tire in the trunk because there
was a good chance of having a flat blowout. Every driver had to know
how to use a jack and change a tire. Tires were only good for about
10,000 miles. if you were travelling any distance at all you would stand
a good chance of having a flat. These days cars have those little donut >spares and it's rare that anyone has to resort to using one.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Many cars today have no spare at all.
I hope that's only because the owner removed the tire and not a failure
of the manufacturer to include one.
~
On Sat, 26 Sep 2026, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I went to Applebee's on the mainland.
Are you from Hawaii?
That would be putting it mildly.
Me: 1976-1988; 1990; 1992; 1995-1996.
6 year old haole single child.
Aliamanu Elementary School K-6
Saint Louis Crusader '88 7-12
Lived in Salt Lake near the Airport and then in Kaimuki.
That's my story, I guess.
Only O`ahu.
These days cars have those little donut spares
The one time I've used it I was glad I had it and at least this stuck somewhere
with no transportation was about 7 miles from the house. Thankfully, it was a
pleasant spring day, so no sweltering or cold with teeth chattering.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 9/26/2026 6:46 PM, Chris Abraham wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
There's a trick/solution to using clad stainless steel.-a Let the pan come >>>> up to temperature; _NO_ oil in the pan, naked pan.-a When you think
it's at
the right temperature, let a few drops of water fall off the tips of your >>>> fingers. If those drops just sit there, your pan is not hot enough; if >>>> they
immediately turn to steam, your pan is too hot.-a If those drops dance and >>>> skid around the pan several seconds, then it's at the right
temperature and
ready for the oil of your choice.
Thank you. I am using that. Patience. Start the naked pan before
prepping. And the skittering drops. The secret to me is allowing the
proteins to self-release... the Zen of stainless pans: desirelessness.
Sometimes you can tell when the meat has released. You'll see /slight/ browning around the edges.
Starting the naked pan, good. Starting the pan naked? Risky. I know.
For sure!!
On 9/27/2026 6:06 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Being a nudist is great except when frying bacon, etc. or when you have
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
Sometimes you can tell when the meat has released. You'll see /slight/
browning around the edges.
Starting the naked pan, good. Starting the pan naked? Risky. I know.
For sure!!
to get a skin cancer removed and be sewn the fuck back up because you
didn't bother with sunscreen when you were running the fuck 'round in >nature.
Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:
On 9/27/2026 5:54 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I hope at least a good size bowl.It was, and should not have been. It should have been more the size of
my m-i-l's *baby bear* portion. This is unpleasant, and I've already
begun dialing back the dose, but the half life is 7 days. I've moved up
doses by the typical regimen, but I may need to back off more than a
little. I predict that soon, people will be microdosing this shit like
crazy.
My neighbor is on that medication, but I don't know her dosage, but it
has been upped the last few weeks. She's been on it since about the
first of the year and still deals with a queasy stomach.
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith wrote:
These days cars have those little donut spares
Some don't even have those, Dave. You get a can of
gellied styrofoam pressurized with propane & butane
that forms a sort of ever-expanding sponge rubber
when injected into the 'air' valve.
It sort of works for a while, but renders the flat
tire pretty much unrepairable and needs extremely
flammable & carcinogenic solvents to clean the wheel.
I'm not even sure if anyone has bothered to see
if your car technically should be adorned with a
HASMAT label and be barred from tunnels & ferries &c.
You have to admit to admit
Shhh! Don't tell Uncle you are Haole! If he finds out, things will be bad for you.
Some of those stainless steel pans are quite beautiful. Unfortunately, my daughter dumped out a bunch of pans. That's okay, it needed to be done.
Starting the naked pan, good. Starting the pan naked? Risky. I know.
I went to school in Kailua which probably had a similar student population as Aliamanu i.e., lots of military kids. Your high school was better than mine. We
were called the Kailua High Surfriders but the reality was that the students should have been called the "Slackers." OTOH, I appreciate the relaxed and stress-free time I had there. The school motto should have been "Don't Worry, Be Happy."
On 2026-09-27, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Starting the naked pan, good.
Starting the pan naked? Risky.
Yes, with a mis-wired electric frying pan
when the kitchen sink becomes a ground
return path via a wayward appendage.
We've had AAA+ for 17 years, and have our homeowners and car
insurance with AAA. The guy came to the State Park and put on the
donut. All in all, it took us a little over 5-1/2 hours to get home.
Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:
On Sat, 26 Sep 2026, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I went to Applebee's on the mainland.
Are you from Hawaii?
That would be putting it mildly.
Me: 1976-1988; 1990; 1992; 1995-1996.
6 year old haole single child.
Aliamanu Elementary School K-6
Saint Louis Crusader '88 7-12
Lived in Salt Lake near the Airport and then in Kaimuki.
That's my story, I guess.
Only O`ahu.
I went to school in Kailua which probably had a similar student
population as Aliamanu i.e., lots of military kids. Your high school
was better than mine. We were called the Kailua High Surfriders but
the reality was that the students should have been called the
"Slackers." OTOH, I appreciate the relaxed and stress-free time I had
there. The school motto should have been "Don't Worry, Be Happy."
Car starts remotely as there is no ignition key
so, I don't even have to take the fob off the carabiner.
Sorry, I had a brain fart. Here it is. https://i.postimg.cc/R0xH4ccn/Butane-Stove.jpg
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
Many cars today have no spare at all.
I hope that's only because the owner removed the tire and not a
failure of the manufacturer to include one.
~
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 02:41:23 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Car starts remotely as there is no ignition key
so, I don't even have to take the fob off the carabiner.
Of course that can make car theft even easier.
AI Overview
Car puffingrColeaving a vehicle running and unattended
to warm uprCois illegal or restricted under unattended-vehicle and anti-idling laws in over 30 states, including Arizona, Colorado, and
Texas.
...
Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:*ALL CARS*?
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 02:41:23 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Car starts remotely as there is no ignition key
so, I don't even have to take the fob off the carabiner.
Of course that can make car theft even easier.
AI Overview
Car puffingrColeaving a vehicle running and unattended
to warm uprCois illegal or restricted under unattended-vehicle and anti-idling laws in over 30 states, including Arizona, Colorado, and
Texas.
...
Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start. If cannot go in
full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will
stop running.
Air regulations are a different matter.Inversions.
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in
full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop
running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield.-a It's not a good idea if you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
On 9/28/2026 5:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in
full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop
running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield.-a It's not a good idea if >> you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
I worked with a guy in Memphis who started his truck one morning in the >Winter to heat it up (snowy day) before going to work... he walked back >inside and someone stole it. It's not a good idea to leave your keys in >your car while it is running.
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 17:30:44 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 02:41:23 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Car starts remotely as there is no ignition key
so, I don't even have to take the fob off the carabiner.
Of course that can make car theft even easier.
AI Overview
Car puffingrColeaving a vehicle running and unattended
to warm uprCois illegal or restricted under unattended-vehicle and
anti-idling laws in over 30 states, including Arizona, Colorado, and
Texas.
...
Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start. If cannot go in
full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will
stop running.
*ALL CARS*?
On 9/28/2026 5:46 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:+1
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 17:30:44 -0400
Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 02:41:23 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
wrote:
Car starts remotely as there is no ignition key
so, I don't even have to take the fob off the carabiner.
Of course that can make car theft even easier.
AI Overview
Car puffingrColeaving a vehicle running and unattended
to warm uprCois illegal or restricted under unattended-vehicle and
anti-idling laws in over 30 states, including Arizona, Colorado,
and Texas.
...
Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start. If cannot go in
full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will
stop running.
*ALL CARS*?
Every one I've had experience with in the past 16 years, both factory
remote and aftermarket.
I know people that run out and start their car to warm up and run
back inside to finis their coffee. Different scenario, subject to
theft.
On 9/28/2026 5:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
I worked with a guy in Memphis who started his truck one morning in the Winter to heat it up (snowy day) before going to work... he walked back inside and someone stole it.-a It's not a good idea to leave your keys in your car while it is running.
On 9/28/2026 5:53 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in
full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will
stop running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield.-a It's not a good idea
if you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
I worked with a guy in Memphis who started his truck one morning in the Winter to heat it up (snowy day) before going to work... he walked back inside and someone stole it.-a It's not a good idea to leave your keys in your car while it is running.
[...] cars
[...] It's not a good idea if you are
in the city and leave it unlocked.
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith wrote:
[...] cars
[...] It's not a good idea if you are
in the city and leave it unlocked.
Except in Churchill, where you are
required by law to leave your car
unlocked when you park it.
(To give people a place to chill
when chased by hungry polar bears.)
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith wrote:
[...] cars
[...] It's not a good idea if you are
in the city and leave it unlocked.
Except in Churchill, where you are
required by law to leave your car
unlocked when you park it.
(To give people a place to chill
when chased by hungry polar bears.)
On 2026-09-28 8:39 p.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith wrote:
[...] cars
[...] It's not a good idea if you are
in the city and leave it unlocked.
Except in Churchill, where you are
required by law to leave your car
unlocked when you park it.
(To give people a place to chill
when chased by hungry polar bears.)
It seems to be a pretty popular place for polar bears. Back around 1970
my older brother was having difficulty getting his act together. He had >dropped out of university and was not working. My father was fed up with
him and offered him a plane ticket anywhere in the world ..... one way.
He chose nearby Thompson MB. He got a job refueling planes at the
airport. He got to know a lot of the local pilots and they used to fly
him all over the place. He was amazed at how much alcohol is consumed
by those pilots .... while flying.
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
<
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 02:41:23 GMT
ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Car starts remotely as there is no ignition key
so, I don't even have to take the fob off the carabiner.
Of course that can make car theft even easier.
AI Overview
Car puffingrColeaving a vehicle running and unattended
to warm uprCois illegal or restricted under unattended-vehicle and anti-idling laws in over 30 states, including Arizona, Colorado, and
Texas.
Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start. If cannot go in full
run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
[...] who the fuck would want to live in Churchill?
[...] where you've got fucking polar bears that might
eat you if you can't find an unlocked vehicle for refuge.
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in full >> run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop running. >>
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if
you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
I just get in the car, start it up, and drive. Unless my husband
will be a passenger, in which case I pull it out of the garage
and sit in it while it warms up.
Parking in the garage (even the detached garage that is barely
above outdoor temperature) has its advantages. No frost or ice
on the windshield.
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:Opposite situation here. At home car is in the garage but when I go out, things change. When 95, bright sun, it does not take long for the
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if >>> you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
I just get in the car, start it up, and drive. Unless my husband
will be a passenger, in which case I pull it out of the garage
and sit in it while it warms up.
Parking in the garage (even the detached garage that is barely
above outdoor temperature) has its advantages. No frost or ice
on the windshield.
Even just parking under a carport prevents that ice or frost from
forming on the windshield. Car is cold as the north pole, though.
Remote start to the rescue!
~
You Canadians are a tough
bunch. Trump ought not be antagonizing you.
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if >> > you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
I just get in the car, start it up, and drive. Unless my husband
will be a passenger, in which case I pull it out of the garage
and sit in it while it warms up.
Parking in the garage (even the detached garage that is barely
above outdoor temperature) has its advantages. No frost or ice
on the windshield.
Even just parking under a carport prevents that ice or frost from
forming on the windshield.
Car is cold as the north pole, though.
Remote start to the rescue!
On 9/29/2026 11:57 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Opposite situation here. At home car is in the garage but when I go out, things change. When 95, bright sun, it does not take long for the
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to >>>> warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if >>>> you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
I just get in the car, start it up, and drive. Unless my husband
will be a passenger, in which case I pull it out of the garage
and sit in it while it warms up.
Parking in the garage (even the detached garage that is barely
above outdoor temperature) has its advantages. No frost or ice
on the windshield.
Even just parking under a carport prevents that ice or frost from
forming on the windshield. Car is cold as the north pole, though.
Remote start to the rescue!
~
interior to heat to about 140. Nice to get the AC working early.
On 2026-09-29, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Even just parking under a carport prevents that ice or frost from
forming on the windshield.
Carports are not all that popular here, because wind-driven snow
can come right in. Even my vintage 1947 house has a two-car
garage. It was certainly built by the stonemason who built my
house, but perhaps not at exactly the same time. I can tell
it was him by the excellent concrete block walls and janky
roof structure made of random reclaimed lumber.
Car is cold as the north pole, though.
Heh. Good one. When it's 0 F outside, my garage might be 4 F.
So not much different, really, from it being outside.
On 2026-09-29, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:~
Opposite situation here. At home car is in the garage but when I go out,
things change. When 95, bright sun, it does not take long for the
interior to heat to about 140. Nice to get the AC working early.
Since we don't get daily rainstorms here, I just leave the windows
open a crack.
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
I went to school in Kailua which probably had a similar student population as
Aliamanu i.e., lots of military kids. Your high school was better than mine. We
were called the Kailua High Surfriders but the reality was that the students
should have been called the "Slackers." OTOH, I appreciate the relaxed and stress-free time I had there. The school motto should have been "Don't Worry,
Be Happy."
My orthodontist was in Kailua and my mom allowed me to take the Pali bus myself in my tweens for my appointments. There was this AWESOME toy store
in the same complex as the orthodontist's office which was all about the
old school knd of German Wooden toys and European die cast cars and it was awesome. Do you remember that? I am SLH '88.
Years ago my wife was raving about the seat heaters in her friends car.Heated steering wheel is nice in winter too.
I was-a less than enthusiastic about that option and never saw myself
paying extra for it.-a I figure the seat warms up within minutes when you sit on it.-a Then I bought my CRV and it came with them. I finally used
the seat heater on a cold day in December. I was an instant convert.
On 2026-09-29, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Even my vintage 1947 house has a two-car
garage. It was certainly built by the stonemason who built my
house, but perhaps not at exactly the same time. I can tell
it was him by the excellent concrete block walls and janky
roof structure made of random reclaimed lumber.
Car is cold as the north pole, though.
Remote start to the rescue!
My husband's last car came with an aftermarket remote start.
I think my CRV had remote start available on the next trim level
up, but I _really_ didn't want leather seats.
On 9/29/2026 12:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Heated steering wheel is nice in winter too.
Years ago my wife was raving about the seat heaters in her friends car.
I was-a less than enthusiastic about that option and never saw myself
paying extra for it.-a I figure the seat warms up within minutes when you >> sit on it.-a Then I bought my CRV and it came with them. I finally used
the seat heater on a cold day in December. I was an instant convert.
One hot summer day [...] windows up [...]
hours later my rear window [...] shattered.
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 13:07:29 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 12:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Heated steering wheel is nice in winter too.
Years ago my wife was raving about the seat heaters in her friends car.
I was-a less than enthusiastic about that option and never saw myself
paying extra for it.-a I figure the seat warms up within minutes when you >>> sit on it.-a Then I bought my CRV and it came with them. I finally used
the seat heater on a cold day in December. I was an instant convert.
In Florida?
On 9/29/2026 1:47 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 13:07:29 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 12:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Years ago my wife was raving about the seat heaters in her friends car. >>>> I was-a less than enthusiastic about that option and never saw myselfHeated steering wheel is nice in winter too.
paying extra for it.-a I figure the seat warms up within minutes when you >>>> sit on it.-a Then I bought my CRV and it came with them. I finally used >>>> the seat heater on a cold day in December. I was an instant convert.
In Florida?
I do go north at times, used to live there. In FL, I may turn it on one
day a year to be sure it works. We may get a morning in the 30s.
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if
you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in full >> > run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop running. >> >
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if
you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Our UPS driver told us the story of another driver that got his truck stolen >because he didn't lock his truck while making a delivery. He was fired, of >course. That sure put the fear of God in the other drivers. Maybe it was management
that cooked up that story.
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 14:51:42 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 1:47 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 13:07:29 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 12:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Years ago my wife was raving about the seat heaters in her friends car. >>>>> I was-a less than enthusiastic about that option and never saw myself >>>>> paying extra for it.-a I figure the seat warms up within minutes when you >>>>> sit on it.-a Then I bought my CRV and it came with them. I finally used >>>>> the seat heater on a cold day in December. I was an instant convert.Heated steering wheel is nice in winter too.
In Florida?
I do go north at times, used to live there. In FL, I may turn it on one
day a year to be sure it works. We may get a morning in the 30s.
I guess you're not very close to the ocean.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if
you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Our UPS driver told us the story of another driver that got his truck stolen because he didn't lock his truck while making a delivery. He was fired, of course. That sure put the fear of God in the other drivers. Maybe it was management
that cooked up that story.
On 2026-09-29 3:50 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
There are lots of stories going around that have little or no basis in >reality.Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if >>> you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Our UPS driver told us the story of another driver that got his truck stolen >> because he didn't lock his truck while making a delivery. He was fired, of >> course. That sure put the fear of God in the other drivers. Maybe it was management
that cooked up that story.
On 2026-09-29 3:50 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if >> you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Our UPS driver told us the story of another driver that got his truck stolen
because he didn't lock his truck while making a delivery. He was fired, of course. That sure put the fear of God in the other drivers. Maybe it was management
that cooked up that story.
There are lots of stories going around that have little or no basis in reality. Around here Bell telephone drivers put safety cones in front of
and behind their work vehicles when they park. Some once told me authoritatively that they do that so people will think they are working. That was BS. It is part of Bell's defensive driving and risk management program. It is to ensure that drivers coming back to their vehicles have
a look around the vehicle to make sure there are no hidden hazards.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:Those darned slider doors!
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go
in full run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it
will stop running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings
to warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good
idea if you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Our UPS driver told us the story of another driver that got his truck
stolen because he didn't lock his truck while making a delivery. He
was fired, of course. That sure put the fear of God in the other
drivers. Maybe it was management that cooked up that story.
On 9/29/2026 11:57 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Opposite situation here. At home car is in the garage but when I go out, things change.-a When 95, bright sun, it does not take long for the
Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> posted:
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to >>>> warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield.-a It's not a good
idea if
you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
I just get in the car, start it up, and drive.-a Unless my husband
will be a passenger, in which case I pull it out of the garage
and sit in it while it warms up.
Parking in the garage (even the detached garage that is barely
above outdoor temperature) has its advantages.-a No frost or ice
on the windshield.
Even just parking under a carport prevents that ice or frost from
forming on the windshield.-a Car is cold as the north pole, though.
Remote start to the rescue!
~
interior to heat to about 140.-a Nice to get the AC working early.
On 9/29/2026 12:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Heated steering wheel is nice in winter too.
Years ago my wife was raving about the seat heaters in her friends
car. I was-a less than enthusiastic about that option and never saw
myself paying extra for it.-a I figure the seat warms up within minutes
when you sit on it.-a Then I bought my CRV and it came with them. I
finally used the seat heater on a cold day in December. I was an
instant convert.
On 9/29/2026 3:05 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 14:51:42 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 1:47 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 13:07:29 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 12:44 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
Years ago my wife was raving about the seat heaters in her friends >>>>>> car.
I was-a less than enthusiastic about that option and never saw myself >>>>>> paying extra for it.-a I figure the seat warms up within minutes
when you
sit on it.-a Then I bought my CRV and it came with them. I finally >>>>>> used
the seat heater on a cold day in December. I was an instant convert. >>>>> Heated steering wheel is nice in winter too.
In Florida?
I do go north at times, used to live there.-a In FL, I may turn it on one >>> day a year to be sure it works.-a We may get a morning in the 30s.
I guess you're not very close to the ocean.
Ocean, no, about 150 miles.-a Gulf of Trump about 15 miles.
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 19:50:57 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in full >>>> run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop running. >>>>
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to
warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if >>> you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Our UPS driver told us the story of another driver that got his truck stolen >> because he didn't lock his truck while making a delivery. He was fired, of >> course. That sure put the fear of God in the other drivers. Maybe it was management
that cooked up that story.
Your UPS driver? I'd have thought parcels were delivered on muleback
in Hawaii.
On 9/28/2026 2:26 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith wrote:
These days cars have those little donut spares
Some don't even have those, Dave. You get a can of
gellied styrofoam pressurized with propane & butane
that forms a sort of ever-expanding sponge rubber
when injected into the 'air' valve.
It sort of works for a while, but renders the flat
tire pretty much unrepairable and needs extremely
flammable & carcinogenic solvents to clean the wheel.
I tried that can of "fix a flat" once.-a The tire shop charged me an
extra $10 for the mess they had to clean up, even though I warned them
it was in there.-a It worked for a few miles, but never again.
On 2026-09-24 9:44 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
Takeout from ApplebeerCOs. my wife and her bestie went there for lunch today. I havenrCOt looked to see what it is. <BURP!> Efye
Sometime you should jump in the car and go with them!
Nah. It is not a great experience to be at a table with two or more
women who want to talk and catch up.
On 2026-09-28, Dave Smith wrote:
These days cars have those little donut spares
Some don't even have those, Dave. You get a can of
gellied styrofoam pressurized with propane & butane
that forms a sort of ever-expanding sponge rubber
when injected into the 'air' valve.
It sort of works for a while, but renders the flat
tire pretty much unrepairable and needs extremely
flammable & carcinogenic solvents to clean the wheel.
It worked for a few miles, but never again.
Some will just leave all that shit in there and
slap on a new tire, collect your money,
and not tell you about the half ass job.
Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/29/2026 2:54 PM:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 19:50:57 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-09-28 5:30 p.m., Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:02 PM, Tanner Ite wrote:
-a Penalties generally range from $50 to $500 depending on the
-a municipality, local air-quality regulations, and whether the
-a infraction is classified as a minor infraction or misdemeanor.
If remote started the car must be locked to start.-a If cannot go in full >>>>> run mode until the fob is present. Hit the brake and it will stop running.
Air regulations are a different matter.
Lots of people around here start their cars on cold winter mornings to >>>> warm them up an melt the ice on the windshield. It's not a good idea if >>>> you are in the city and leave it unlocked.
Our UPS driver told us the story of another driver that got his truck stolen
because he didn't lock his truck while making a delivery. He was fired, of >>> course. That sure put the fear of God in the other drivers. Maybe it was management
that cooked up that story.
Your UPS driver? I'd have thought parcels were delivered on muleback
in Hawaii.
Nah. Da Hiwayans use rickshaws.
On 2026-09-27, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Starting the naked pan, good.
Starting the pan naked? Risky.
Yes, with a mis-wired electric frying pan
when the kitchen sink becomes a ground
return path via a wayward appendage.
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-09-27, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Starting the naked pan, good.
Starting the pan naked? Risky.
Yes, with a mis-wired electric frying pan
when the kitchen sink becomes a ground
return path via a wayward appendage.
I think my mom was electrocuted when she turned on the garbage disposal. The >switch was located under the sink. I suspect that she flipped the switch when >she had wet hands. I think the switch has been relocated above the sink. Good >idea.
Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> posted:
On 2026-09-27, Bryan Simmons wrote:
Starting the naked pan, good.
Starting the pan naked? Risky.
Yes, with a mis-wired electric frying pan
when the kitchen sink becomes a ground
return path via a wayward appendage.
I think my mom was electrocuted when she turned on the
garbage disposal. The switch was located under the sink.
I suspect that she flipped the switch when she had wet
hands. I think the switch has been relocated above the
sink. Good idea.
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