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leo
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
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leo
This came through OK. Seems to be working if not too complex on your end.
I'm a year older than you too.
Did I make it?
Anybody ever hear of Clean Express? ItrCOs short on documentation, but thatrCOs what IrCOm using for now or until I get used to it.
On Sep 22, 2026 at 6:19rC>PM, Ed P wrote:
This came through OK. Seems to be working if not too complex on your end. >>
I'm a year older than you too.
AinrCOt you a couple of weeks short? This post will comprise my first reply with this newsreader.
Did I make it? Anybody ever hear of Clean Express? ItrCOs short on documentation, but thatrCOs what IrCOm using for now or until I get used to it.
leo
On Sep 22, 2026 at 6:19rC>PM, Ed P wrote:
This came through OK. Seems to be working if not too complex on your end.
I'm a year older than you too.
AinrCOt you a couple of weeks short? This post will comprise my first reply with this newsreader.
Did I make it? Anybody ever hear of Clean Express? ItrCOs short on documentation, but thatrCOs what IrCOm using for now or until I get used to it.
leo
On Sep 22, 2026 at 6:19rC>PM, Ed P wrote:
This came through OK. Seems to be working if not too complex on your end. >>
I'm a year older than you too.
AinrCOt you a couple of weeks short? This post will comprise my first reply with this newsreader.
Did I make it? Anybody ever hear of Clean Express? ItrCOs short on documentation, but thatrCOs what IrCOm using for now or until I get used to it.
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
I was at Safeway today and the old guy in front of me was pretty confused. His wife
had given him a card and he could not remember the pin. After a few tries, he was
able to reach his wife on the cell. She gave him the pin and for some reason, it
didn't go through. After a few more tries, the checkout gal was getting pretty
pissed and the guy was so flustered that he froze. I pulled out a twenty and said
that I'd pay his for his food. That didn't work and the gal was more pissed. "This
always happens" she said as she canceled his transaction. It was not a good scene.
Now that I think about it, I should have scanned his groceries before offering to
pay for it. I'm not buying any booze to further cloud whatever is left of his mind!
Am I a bad person?
Leo <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> posted:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
I was at Safeway today and the old guy in front of me was pretty confused. His wife
had given him a card and he could not remember the pin. After a few tries, he was
able to reach his wife on the cell. She gave him the pin and for some reason, it
didn't go through. After a few more tries, the checkout gal was getting pretty
pissed and the guy was so flustered that he froze. I pulled out a twenty and said
that I'd pay his for his food. That didn't work and the gal was more pissed. "This
always happens" she said as she canceled his transaction. It was not a good scene.
Now that I think about it, I should have scanned his groceries before offering to
pay for it. I'm not buying any booze to further cloud whatever is left of his mind!
Am I a bad person?
On 9/22/2026 11:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
I was at Safeway today and the old guy in front of me was pretty confused. His wife
had given him a card and he could not remember the pin. After a few tries, he was
able to reach his wife on the cell. She gave him the pin and for some reason, it
didn't go through. After a few more tries, the checkout gal was getting pretty
pissed and the guy was so flustered that he froze. I pulled out a twenty and said
that I'd pay his for his food. That didn't work and the gal was more pissed. "This
always happens" she said as she canceled his transaction. It was not a good scene.
Now that I think about it, I should have scanned his groceries before offering to
pay for it. I'm not buying any booze to further cloud whatever is left of his mind!
Am I a bad person?
Sounds like she is too stupid to make cash work. You tried.
Leo wrote :
Anybody ever hear of Clean Express? ItrCOs short on documentation, but thatrCOs what IrCOm using for now or until I get used to it.
Never heard of it. Why give up on slrn? Hardware? Operating system?
What's gone wrong?
Apple quit supporting [...] I have one more option.
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
On 9/22/2026 8:29 PM, Leo wrote:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
Hi Leo!
Hi Leo!
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
On 9/22/2026 8:29 PM, Leo wrote:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
Hi Leo!
I thought you had fallen off the face of the earth!
On 9/22/2026 8:29 PM, Leo wrote:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without
jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with
a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new
world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
Hi Leo!
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 17:51:45 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
On 9/22/2026 8:29 PM, Leo wrote:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
Hi Leo!
I thought you had fallen off the face of the earth!
He was busy making more babies.
Hi Leo!
Leo wrote on 9/22/2026 7:29 PM:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn withoutI have an ipad someone gave me.-a With apple, you must do everything
jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with
a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new
world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
exactly their way, or no way.-a It's just the way they roll with their walled garden.
On 9/22/2026 11:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
I was at Safeway today and the old guy in front of me was pretty
confused. His wife
had given him a card and he could not remember the pin. After a few
tries, he was
able to reach his wife on the cell. She gave him the pin and for some
reason, it
didn't go through. After a few more tries, the checkout gal was
getting pretty
pissed and the guy was so flustered that he froze. I pulled out a
twenty and said
that I'd pay his for his food. That didn't work and the gal was more
pissed. "This
always happens" she said as she canceled his transaction. It was not a
good scene.
Now that I think about it, I should have scanned his groceries before
offering to
pay for it. I'm not buying any booze to further cloud whatever is left
of his mind!
Am I a bad person?
Sounds like she is too stupid to make cash work.-a You tried.
On 9/22/2026 8:06 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
Leo wrote on 9/22/2026 7:29 PM:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn withoutI have an ipad someone gave me.-a With apple, you must do everything
jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling
with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a
brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes.
Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
exactly their way, or no way.-a It's just the way they roll with their
walled garden.
I don't use my iPad much, but it's handy when traveling. My wife and I
both have iPads with keyboards. The knockoff ones are really cheap, and
it's so much nicer to have a real keyboard. You just have to find one
that matches the generation of your iPad. https://www.walmart.com/ip/iPad-10th-Generation-Case-Keyboard-iPad-Keyboard-Case-10-9-inch-10th-Gen-Detachable-Pencil-Holder-Flip-Stand-Cover-Keyboard-Case-Latest-iPad-10th-Gen/3335018192?classType=VARIANT&athbdg=L1900&from=/search
We also both have matching Carhartt cross body bags that are perfect for iPads. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/carhartt-crossbody-zip-bag-2430248
Mine has a place for a SIM card, so it can be used as a large phone.
On 9/22/2026 10:26 PM, EdP wrote:
On 9/22/2026 11:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:
I was at Safeway today and the old guy in front of me was pretty
confused. His wife
had given him a card and he could not remember the pin. After a few
tries, he was
able to reach his wife on the cell. She gave him the pin and for some
reason, it
didn't go through. After a few more tries, the checkout gal was
getting pretty
pissed and the guy was so flustered that he froze. I pulled out a
twenty and said
that I'd pay his for his food. That didn't work and the gal was more
pissed. "This
always happens" she said as she canceled his transaction. It was not
a good scene.
Now that I think about it, I should have scanned his groceries before
offering to
pay for it. I'm not buying any booze to further cloud whatever is
left of his mind!
Am I a bad person?
Sounds like she is too stupid to make cash work.-a You tried.
I thought it would be funny to buy a case of really cheap beer, and when folks ask for money at intersections, to roll down my window and hand
them a can of beer.
I thought it would be funny to buy a case of really cheap beer, and when folks ask for money at intersections, to roll down my window and hand
them a can of beer.
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 17:51:45 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> posted:
On 9/22/2026 8:29 PM, Leo wrote:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
Hi Leo!
I thought you had fallen off the face of the earth!
He was busy making more babies.
Michael Trew wrote :
Hi Leo!
Welcome back, my friend, to the show that never ends.
You upgraded your news reader??
The sky is falling.
The sky is falling.
On 9/22/2026 8:29 PM, Leo wrote:
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn without
jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling with
a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a brave new
world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes. Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
This came through OK.-a Seems to be working if not too complex on your end.
I'm a year older than you too.
Bryan Simmons wrote on 9/26/2026 12:56 PM:
On 9/22/2026 8:06 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
Leo wrote on 9/22/2026 7:29 PM:I don't use my iPad much, but it's handy when traveling. My wife and I
Sorry about that first post. Apple quit supporting slrn withoutI have an ipad someone gave me.-a With apple, you must do everything
jumping through hoops, and just for another year. So, IrCOm fooling
with a new newsreader for the first time in fifteen years. ItrCOs a
brave new world for me, and I expect to make many posting mistakes.
Bear with me. ry|N+A
I HATE CHANGE!
leo
exactly their way, or no way.-a It's just the way they roll with their
walled garden.
both have iPads with keyboards. The knockoff ones are really cheap,
and it's so much nicer to have a real keyboard. You just have to find
one that matches the generation of your iPad.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/iPad-10th-Generation-Case-Keyboard-iPad-
Keyboard-Case-10-9-inch-10th-Gen-Detachable-Pencil-Holder-Flip-Stand-
Cover-Keyboard-Case-Latest-iPad-10th-Gen/3335018192?
classType=VARIANT&athbdg=L1900&from=/search
We also both have matching Carhartt cross body bags that are perfect
for iPads.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/carhartt-crossbody-zip-
bag-2430248
Mine has a place for a SIM card, so it can be used as a large phone.
Are you sure, and have you actually made a telephone call using ONLY
your ipad?-a If not, try it and let us know how it goes.
I thought ipads, even with cell service still couldn't be used as a
phone to make calls.-a They just use the cell service for data instead of requiring wifi. Or, they can probably use a nearby iphone to make the
call, but not on their own.
There is another layer. It's called WhatsApp. It does use up data, but I
use my phone for phone calls infrequently enough for anyone other than
wife (rarely, as we're almost always together) or son, and because he >travels so much out of the country, we're used to using WhatsApp. The
very few things that I'd need an actual phone for are pretty much just >doctor's offices and pharmacies. A couple of my docs only have my wife's >number, because she has an iPhone that always works, unlike my cheesy >Android. Or I could get a $8 a month voice and text plan and keep the >Android, or maybe toss it and get a little flip phone. The only texts I
ever get that I have any use for are the multifactor ID, or rarely from
my son.
I really use my phone almost exclusively for internet or camera. I
posted here from the iPad last spring when we were on vacation, but that >needed the hotel's wifi. I communicate with other relatives/friends by >email. This thing looks like me. ;-) >https://www.walmart.com/ip/Senior-Flip-Phone-with-Large-Buttons-Dual-SIM-Dual-Standby-1-3MP-Camera-LED-Flashlight-for-Elderly-Users-Easy-Operation/17773718504
Or I could just say fuck it to having a mobile phone. I leave it at home >almost half the time, and the times that I regret that are when I want
to use the McD's app, or use WalMart+ scan&go or Sam's gas pumps. It
does mean that I'll have to wear the Carhartt. My wife always has hers,
but often it's not with the iPad. She uses it as a purse, so I guess
mine would be a "man purse," except if anybody called it that, I could >contend that nothing is more manly than Carhartt.
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 19:26:38 -0500, Bryan SimmonsI prefer my Samsung Android over the iPhone.
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
There is another layer. It's called WhatsApp. It does use up data, but I
use my phone for phone calls infrequently enough for anyone other than
wife (rarely, as we're almost always together) or son, and because he
travels so much out of the country, we're used to using WhatsApp. The
very few things that I'd need an actual phone for are pretty much just
doctor's offices and pharmacies. A couple of my docs only have my wife's
number, because she has an iPhone that always works, unlike my cheesy
Android. Or I could get a $8 a month voice and text plan and keep the
Android, or maybe toss it and get a little flip phone. The only texts I
ever get that I have any use for are the multifactor ID, or rarely from
my son.
I communicate with other relatives/friends by
email. This thing looks like me. ;-) https://www.walmart.com/ip/Senior-Flip-Phone-with-Large-Buttons-Dual-SIM-Dual-Standby-1-3MP-Camera-LED-Flashlight-for-Elderly-Users-Easy-Operation/17773718504
On 9/28/2026 9:25 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 19:26:38 -0500, Bryan SimmonsI prefer my Samsung Android over the iPhone.
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
There is another layer. It's called WhatsApp. It does use up data, but I >>> use my phone for phone calls infrequently enough for anyone other than
wife (rarely, as we're almost always together) or son, and because he
travels so much out of the country, we're used to using WhatsApp. The
very few things that I'd need an actual phone for are pretty much just
doctor's offices and pharmacies. A couple of my docs only have my wife's >>> number, because she has an iPhone that always works, unlike my cheesy
Android. Or I could get a $8 a month voice and text plan and keep the
Android, or maybe toss it and get a little flip phone. The only texts I
ever get that I have any use for are the multifactor ID, or rarely from
my son.
I do use it for actual phone call, but handy for many uses, such as bank
and CC information, faster than going on line.-a Tons of information available with some apps.
I text a couple of people on a regular basis.-a Done right, people appreciate it.-a Once is a now recovering cancer patient that gets a text every morning that she goes for her regular checkup.-a Another lost her
son and at the time she appreciated the message I sent.-a Now she gets
one every day at 6:30PM.-a Keeps us in touch
I can write a text and schedule the time to be sent
On 9/28/2026 9:59 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 9/28/2026 9:25 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 19:26:38 -0500, Bryan SimmonsI prefer my Samsung Android over the iPhone.
<bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:
There is another layer. It's called WhatsApp. It does use up data,
but I
use my phone for phone calls infrequently enough for anyone other than >>>> wife (rarely, as we're almost always together) or son, and because he
travels so much out of the country, we're used to using WhatsApp. The
very few things that I'd need an actual phone for are pretty much just >>>> doctor's offices and pharmacies. A couple of my docs only have my
wife's
number, because she has an iPhone that always works, unlike my cheesy
Android. Or I could get a $8 a month voice and text plan and keep the
Android, or maybe toss it and get a little flip phone. The only texts I >>>> ever get that I have any use for are the multifactor ID, or rarely from >>>> my son.
I do use it for actual phone call, but handy for many uses, such as
bank and CC information, faster than going on line.-a Tons of
information available with some apps.
I text a couple of people on a regular basis.-a Done right, people
appreciate it.-a Once is a now recovering cancer patient that gets a
text every morning that she goes for her regular checkup.-a Another
lost her son and at the time she appreciated the message I sent.-a Now
she gets one every day at 6:30PM.-a Keeps us in touch
I can write a text and schedule the time to be sent
If I need a telephone, my wife has one. The only advantage the TELEphone
has over the iPad is size. Other than a doctor here and there, I don't
do voice calls anymore. I need a portable device that never fucks up,
and that means learning the ways of Apple.
On 9/29/2026 9:36 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
If I need a telephone, my wife has one. The only advantage the TELEphone
has over the iPad is size. Other than a doctor here and there, I don't
do voice calls anymore. I need a portable device that never fucks up,
and that means learning the ways of Apple.
Whatever works for your circumstances.
I ditched the house phone. Everything now is on my cell, doctors,
friends etc. It has my email, banking, Could not do without it.
Keeps me in touch with long time friends that are far away, a couple I
talk to weekly for 45 to 90 minutes. Three ladies that are important to
me for 35, 45, 50 years.
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 22:35:49 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 9:36 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
If I need a telephone, my wife has one. The only advantage the TELEphone >>> has over the iPad is size. Other than a doctor here and there, I don't
do voice calls anymore. I need a portable device that never fucks up,
and that means learning the ways of Apple.
Whatever works for your circumstances.
I ditched the house phone. Everything now is on my cell, doctors,
friends etc. It has my email, banking, Could not do without it.
Keeps me in touch with long time friends that are far away, a couple I
talk to weekly for 45 to 90 minutes. Three ladies that are important to
me for 35, 45, 50 years.
Aren't you, like me, almost always near your computer? What then is
the advantage of doing banking and e-mail on a minuscule screen and a keyboard you first need to sharpen your fingers for?
On 9/29/2026 11:06 PM, Uncle Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 22:35:49 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
On 9/29/2026 9:36 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
If I need a telephone, my wife has one. The only advantage the TELEphone >>>> has over the iPad is size. Other than a doctor here and there, I don't >>>> do voice calls anymore. I need a portable device that never fucks up,
and that means learning the ways of Apple.
Whatever works for your circumstances.
I ditched the house phone. Everything now is on my cell, doctors,
friends etc. It has my email, banking, Could not do without it.
Keeps me in touch with long time friends that are far away, a couple I
talk to weekly for 45 to 90 minutes. Three ladies that are important to >>> me for 35, 45, 50 years.
Aren't you, like me, almost always near your computer? What then is
the advantage of doing banking and e-mail on a minuscule screen and a
keyboard you first need to sharpen your fingers for?
If I only want to check a transaction or something simple, it can be
faster on the phone that waiting for a website to load.
Email may be handy if I'm out and expecting something I want to read,
not the junk stuff.
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