In 2017, internet trolls disrupted an anti-racist art installation with neo-Nazi chants and messily downed jugs of milk to accentuate their
White identity.
On 2026-09-21, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
In 2017, internet trolls disrupted an anti-racist art installation with
neo-Nazi chants and messily downed jugs of milk to accentuate their
White identity.
In around half of all adults in the U.S., lactase production in the
small intestine declines late in life to the point of lactose
intolerance.
From the newspaper this morning.
The invention of lactose intolerance
On 2026-09-21 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-09-21, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
In 2017, internet trolls disrupted an anti-racist art installation with
neo-Nazi chants and messily downed jugs of milk to accentuate their
White identity.
In around half of all adults in the U.S., lactase production in the
small intestine declines late in life to the point of lactose
intolerance.
I am white. I was tested and diagnosed just a few years ago. It was not
at all a surprise because milk and I have never got along well.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
From the newspaper this morning.
The invention of lactose intolerance
"People of northern European descent, it turned
out, were the weird ones. It was their ancestors who had passed down a >genetic mutation rCo one that made them able to digest milk after infancy."
I KNEW I had read that somewhere long, long ago and had not imagined it. >(Awfully glad I received that mutation.)
"In recent years, White supremacists have embraced the concept of lactose >intolerance as a distinguishing debility of non-White people."
On 2026-09-21, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On 2026-09-21 9:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2026-09-21, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
In 2017, internet trolls disrupted an anti-racist art installation with >>>> neo-Nazi chants and messily downed jugs of milk to accentuate their
White identity.
In around half of all adults in the U.S., lactase production in the
small intestine declines late in life to the point of lactose
intolerance.
I am white. I was tested and diagnosed just a few years ago. It was not
at all a surprise because milk and I have never got along well.
Really? I had not known that.
Variations in peoplerCOs ability to digest lactose first came to scientistsrCO attention after American dairy producers found a way to rid themselves of a postwar milk surplus. To offload what they couldnrCOt
sell, they looked to the government to intervene. And it did, buying the excess and embedding it in school lunches and other places with publicly funded meals.
On 9/21/2026 7:59 AM, Ed P wrote:
In the late 1960s, the school cafeteria had 2 cent half pints. At home,
Variations in peoplerCOs ability to digest lactose first came to
scientistsrCO attention after American dairy producers found a way to
rid themselves of a postwar milk surplus. To offload what they
couldnrCOt sell, they looked to the government to intervene. And it did,
buying the excess and embedding it in school lunches and other places
with publicly funded meals.
we had stupid 2%, but the stuff at school was whole milk. I pretty much always bought a few extras. There were days where I'd drink 4 or 5 of
them at lunch. I remember in 4th or 5th grade, the price went up to 3
cents.
From the newspaper this morning.
The invention of lactose intolerance
Racism, government, business interests made human norm into a condition
Hilary Smith
Professor of History, University of Denver THE CONVERSATION
Lactose intolerance makes drinking milk or eating ice cream a literal
pain. For some people, eating a dairy treat can lead to bloating, nausea
and diarrhea. You mightrCOve experienced its effects yourself. If so, you may think of lactose intolerance as a defect rather than the norm.
But did you know that most people in the world today are lactose
intolerant rCo and that the condition itself was invented in the 1960s?
rCLSurely you mean discovered, not invented,rCY I hear you saying. I donrCOt.
As a historian who has traced the origins of nutrition-science ideas, I
have chosen the word rCLinventedrCY on purpose.
Inventing lactose intolerance
Variations in peoplerCOs ability to digest lactose first came to scientistsrCO attention after American dairy producers found a way to rid themselves of a postwar milk surplus. To offload what they couldnrCOt
sell, they looked to the government to intervene. And it did, buying the excess and embedding it in school lunches and other places with publicly funded meals.
Suddenly, many people who had not habitually drunk milk were consuming
it regularly, including not only some Americans but also people
overseas. Part of that same milk surplus found its way into school
lunches in places such as Japan and Taiwan in the 1950s as the American government began to sell milk to allies during the Cold War.
Many of the groups drinking milk regularly for the first time did not
like it. In fact, it made them feel sick. Intrigued, scientists set up experiments to figure out why. In a 1966 study comparing how Black and
White people incarcerated in Baltimore metabolized lactose, researchers found that Black participants had lower levels of lactase rCo the enzyme that breaks down lactose rCo in their guts.
o the White scientists conducting this study, the trouble that the Black prisoners had digesting milk looked like an rCLinborn error of metabolism.rCY They assumed that the normal human state was lactose tolerance and that the lactose intolerant had inherited a genetic mutation.
It was only after years more work with research participants of many
races that experts realized that, as one National Institutes of Health official put it in 1981, rCLlactose intolerance is a normal physiological condition, shared by every adult animal except for certain ethnic and
racial groups in man.rCY People of northern European descent, it turned
out, were the weird ones. It was their ancestors who had passed down a genetic mutation rCo one that made them able to digest milk after infancy.
In short, what scientists discovered in the 1960s was that different
bodies process milk differently. What they invented was the idea that lactose intolerance is a defect. Accepting that framing would mean
nearly two-thirds of the human population rCo the estimated prevalence of lactose intolerance worldwide rCo is defective.
Instead of acknowledging that dairyfree diets can be healthy, people innovated ways to overcome this supposed disability so everyone could consume more.
Nutritional imperialism
Lactose intolerance is one example of what I call nutritional
imperialism: a way of thinking that treats White diets as the norm and everyone elserCOs as an aberration.
Nutritional imperialism was common in the 20th century, when scientists thought that not only milk-rich but also meat-heavy diets were best;
they considered diets outside of the United States and Europe too vegetarian. Some also argued that wheat flour, not rice, ought to be the universal staple.
The same bias applied to bodies. Besides faulty lactose digestion,
non-White bodies were accused of other failures, too, such as aldehyde dehydrogenase deficiency, an inability to digest alcohol quickly. The
less technical term for this may be more familiar: Asian flush.
Such differences might have been thought of as variety, just another way
of being human. Instead, each became a deficiency.
Many people today have inherited and perpetuated this way of thinking without knowing it, including those who are deemed deficient by it. In
1959, the director of JapanrCOs nutrition bureau declared that rCLrice-eating peoplesrCY such as the Japanese were rCLresigned and passiverCY
and could correct this by imitating Western diets and switching to wheat.
Today, the most prominent scientist promoting the idea that Asian flush
is a disease is a geneticist of Taiwanese descent who started a research consortium to study rCLthe most common human enzymopathy in the world.rCY
The Chinese Nutrition Society placed a tall glass of milk next to its
2022 Food Guide Plate rCo never mind estimates that the vast majority of
Han Chinese, the largest ethnic group in China and worldwide, are
lactose intolerant.
Turning sickness back into difference
Science that pathologizes difference helps racism persist.
In recent years, White supremacists have embraced the concept of lactose intolerance as a distinguishing debility of non-White people. Social
media users have copied and pasted a map of the geographic distribution
of lactose tolerance originally published in the scientific journal
Nature into racist chat threads on the online discussion forum 4chan.
In 2017, internet trolls disrupted an anti-racist art installation with neo-Nazi chants and messily downed jugs of milk to accentuate their
White identity.
Turning a lactose-digestion difference into a deficiency has done more
to reinforce narratives of racial hierarchy than to improve public
health. So hererCOs a suggestion: If you enjoy eating dairy, keep doing
it; if you donrCOt, donrCOt rCo and know that there is nothing wrong with you.
University of Denver provides funding as a member of The Conversation
US. The Conversation is an independent and nonprofit source of news, analysis and commentary from academic experts. The Conversation is
wholly responsible for the content.
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the >problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems >marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and >the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool.
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
From the newspaper this morning.
The invention of lactose intolerance
Racism, government, business interests made human norm into a condition
Hilary Smith
Professor of History, University of Denver THE CONVERSATION
Lactose intolerance makes drinking milk or eating ice cream a literal
pain. For some people, eating a dairy treat can lead to bloating, nausea
and diarrhea. You mightrCOve experienced its effects yourself. If so, you
may think of lactose intolerance as a defect rather than the norm.
But did you know that most people in the world today are lactose
intolerant rCo and that the condition itself was invented in the 1960s?
rCLSurely you mean discovered, not invented,rCY I hear you saying. I donrCOt.
As a historian who has traced the origins of nutrition-science ideas, I
have chosen the word rCLinventedrCY on purpose.
Inventing lactose intolerance
Variations in peoplerCOs ability to digest lactose first came to
scientistsrCO attention after American dairy producers found a way to rid
themselves of a postwar milk surplus. To offload what they couldnrCOt
sell, they looked to the government to intervene. And it did, buying the
excess and embedding it in school lunches and other places with publicly
funded meals.
Suddenly, many people who had not habitually drunk milk were consuming
it regularly, including not only some Americans but also people
overseas. Part of that same milk surplus found its way into school
lunches in places such as Japan and Taiwan in the 1950s as the American
government began to sell milk to allies during the Cold War.
Many of the groups drinking milk regularly for the first time did not
like it. In fact, it made them feel sick. Intrigued, scientists set up
experiments to figure out why. In a 1966 study comparing how Black and
White people incarcerated in Baltimore metabolized lactose, researchers
found that Black participants had lower levels of lactase rCo the enzyme
that breaks down lactose rCo in their guts.
o the White scientists conducting this study, the trouble that the Black
prisoners had digesting milk looked like an rCLinborn error of
metabolism.rCY They assumed that the normal human state was lactose
tolerance and that the lactose intolerant had inherited a genetic mutation. >>
It was only after years more work with research participants of many
races that experts realized that, as one National Institutes of Health
official put it in 1981, rCLlactose intolerance is a normal physiological
condition, shared by every adult animal except for certain ethnic and
racial groups in man.rCY People of northern European descent, it turned
out, were the weird ones. It was their ancestors who had passed down a
genetic mutation rCo one that made them able to digest milk after infancy. >>
In short, what scientists discovered in the 1960s was that different
bodies process milk differently. What they invented was the idea that
lactose intolerance is a defect. Accepting that framing would mean
nearly two-thirds of the human population rCo the estimated prevalence of
lactose intolerance worldwide rCo is defective.
Instead of acknowledging that dairyfree diets can be healthy, people
innovated ways to overcome this supposed disability so everyone could
consume more.
Nutritional imperialism
Lactose intolerance is one example of what I call nutritional
imperialism: a way of thinking that treats White diets as the norm and
everyone elserCOs as an aberration.
Nutritional imperialism was common in the 20th century, when scientists
thought that not only milk-rich but also meat-heavy diets were best;
they considered diets outside of the United States and Europe too
vegetarian. Some also argued that wheat flour, not rice, ought to be the
universal staple.
The same bias applied to bodies. Besides faulty lactose digestion,
non-White bodies were accused of other failures, too, such as aldehyde
dehydrogenase deficiency, an inability to digest alcohol quickly. The
less technical term for this may be more familiar: Asian flush.
Such differences might have been thought of as variety, just another way
of being human. Instead, each became a deficiency.
Many people today have inherited and perpetuated this way of thinking
without knowing it, including those who are deemed deficient by it. In
1959, the director of JapanrCOs nutrition bureau declared that
rCLrice-eating peoplesrCY such as the Japanese were rCLresigned and passiverCY
and could correct this by imitating Western diets and switching to wheat.
Today, the most prominent scientist promoting the idea that Asian flush
is a disease is a geneticist of Taiwanese descent who started a research
consortium to study rCLthe most common human enzymopathy in the world.rCY
The Chinese Nutrition Society placed a tall glass of milk next to its
2022 Food Guide Plate rCo never mind estimates that the vast majority of
Han Chinese, the largest ethnic group in China and worldwide, are
lactose intolerant.
Turning sickness back into difference
Science that pathologizes difference helps racism persist.
In recent years, White supremacists have embraced the concept of lactose
intolerance as a distinguishing debility of non-White people. Social
media users have copied and pasted a map of the geographic distribution
of lactose tolerance originally published in the scientific journal
Nature into racist chat threads on the online discussion forum 4chan.
In 2017, internet trolls disrupted an anti-racist art installation with
neo-Nazi chants and messily downed jugs of milk to accentuate their
White identity.
Turning a lactose-digestion difference into a deficiency has done more
to reinforce narratives of racial hierarchy than to improve public
health. So hererCOs a suggestion: If you enjoy eating dairy, keep doing
it; if you donrCOt, donrCOt rCo and know that there is nothing wrong with you.
University of Denver provides funding as a member of The Conversation
US. The Conversation is an independent and nonprofit source of news,
analysis and commentary from academic experts. The Conversation is
wholly responsible for the content.
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking.
The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52 PM:
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking.
The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see
some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
From the newspaper this morning.
The invention of lactose intolerance
"People of northern European descent, it turned
out, were the weird ones. It was their ancestors who had passed down a genetic mutation rCo one that made them able to digest milk after infancy."
I KNEW I had read that somewhere long, long ago and had not imagined it. (Awfully glad I received that mutation.)
"In recent years, White supremacists have embraced the concept of lactose intolerance as a distinguishing debility of non-White people."
Good grief.
~
On 9/21/2026 11:17 AM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:
-aFrom the newspaper this morning.
The invention of lactose intolerance
"People of northern European descent, it turned
out, were the weird ones. It was their ancestors who had passed down a
genetic mutation rCo one that made them able to digest milk after infancy." >>
I KNEW I had read that somewhere long, long ago and had not imagined it.
(Awfully glad I received that mutation.)
"In recent years, White supremacists have embraced the concept of lactose
intolerance as a distinguishing debility of non-White people."
Good grief.
~
Good grief is right.-a Tomorrow I am planning to make a pot of broccoli cheese soup which involves both milk & cream.-a Good stuff!
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52 PM:
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking.
The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see
some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by
fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese,
big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But
no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52 PM:
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking.
The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see
some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by
fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese,
big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But
no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:20:49 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52 PM:
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking. >> >> The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see
some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by
fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese,
big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But
no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:20:49 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52 PM:
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking. >>>>>> The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's. >>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see >>>>> some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by
fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese,
big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But
no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of
distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
If you had any sense at all, you'd know that the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese,
don't have much of a history of drinking milk. The Japanese did invent the first
probiotic drink so you got no reason to gloat. Even the Aussies drink the stuff.
You probably never knew that, sucker. Yoose gets the last word.
https://www.yakult.com.au/
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:20:49 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of
distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
If you had any sense at all, you'd know that the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese,
don't have much of a history of drinking milk.
The Japanese did invent the first probiotic drink
so you got no reason to gloat.
Even the Aussies drink the stuff. You probably never knew that, sucker.
Yoose gets the last word.
On 2026-09-22 2:59 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of
distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
If you had any sense at all, you'd know that the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese,
don't have much of a history of drinking milk. The Japanese did invent the first
probiotic drink so you got no reason to gloat. Even the Aussies drink the stuff.
You probably never knew that, sucker. Yoose gets the last word.
https://www.yakult.com.au/
They were the first?? That's curious because Europeans have been making >yogurt for thousands of years and Russians have been making and drinking >kefir for more than 3000 years. The Japanese may have adopted the use of >fermented milk but they sure as heck did not invent the probiotic drink.
On 2026-09-22 2:59 p.m., dsi1 wrote:PM:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:20:49 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> >>>> wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking. >>>>>> The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's. >>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see >>>>> some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by
fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese, >>>> big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But
no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of
distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
If you had any sense at all, you'd know that the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese,
don't have much of a history of drinking milk. The Japanese did invent the first
probiotic drink so you got no reason to gloat. Even the Aussies drink the stuff.
You probably never knew that, sucker. Yoose gets the last word.
https://www.yakult.com.au/
They were the first?? That's curious because Europeans have been making yogurt for thousands of years and Russians have been making and drinking kefir for more than 3000 years. The Japanese may have adopted the use of fermented milk but they sure as heck did not invent the probiotic drink.
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:20:49 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52 PM:
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking. >>>>>> The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's. >>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see >>>>> some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by
fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese,
big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But
no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of
distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
If you had any sense at all, you'd know that the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese,
don't have much of a history of drinking milk. The Japanese did invent the first
probiotic drink so you got no reason to gloat. Even the Aussies drink the stuff.
You probably never knew that, sucker. Yoose gets the last word.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-09-22 2:59 p.m., dsi1 wrote:PM:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:20:49 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> >>>>>> wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually shocking. >>>>>>>> The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the 1930's. >>>>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk. We'd love to see >>>>>>> some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain? Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by
fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese, >>>>>> big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But >>>>>> no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of
distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
If you had any sense at all, you'd know that the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese,
don't have much of a history of drinking milk. The Japanese did invent the first
probiotic drink so you got no reason to gloat. Even the Aussies drink the stuff.
You probably never knew that, sucker. Yoose gets the last word.
https://www.yakult.com.au/
They were the first?? That's curious because Europeans have been making
yogurt for thousands of years and Russians have been making and drinking
kefir for more than 3000 years. The Japanese may have adopted the use of
fermented milk but they sure as heck did not invent the probiotic drink.
Depends on how you look at things. People were drinking fermented milk for as long
as milk would ferment. They probably didn't have much choice milk-wise. You could
also say that cheese and wine was invented to facilitate high class gourmet eats.
The reality is that the whole idea of probiotics is one that appeared in the 80's
in the US. It is only in the last 20 years or so that yogurt is being sold as a
probiotic.
On 2026-09-22 5:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-09-22 2:59 p.m., dsi1 wrote:-a PM:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 17:20:49 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:37:46 -0500, Hank Rogers
<Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
dsi1 wrote on 9/21/2026 5:52
The introduction of acidophilus milk in the 70's was a direct >>>>>>>>> response to the
problems associated with lactose in milk. The milk industry had >>>>>>>>> some problems
marketing the product. At the time, lactose intolerance was not >>>>>>>>> well known and
the milk industry wanted to keep that a secret. Selling a
product that is toxic
to most humans on the planet ain't real cool. It's actually >>>>>>>>> shocking.
The Japanese have been selling a probiotic product since the >>>>>>>>> 1930's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcEHzOKUuio
Uncle, exactly what happens when asians drink milk.-a We'd love >>>>>>>> to see
some videos.
Do they just sit around and complain?-a Maybe they go nuts?
Mongols consume a lot of yak milk, but they solve the problem by >>>>>>> fermenting it first. You'd think that Koreans, Japanese and Chinese, >>>>>>> big fermenters that they are, could have come up with that too. But >>>>>>> no, it took Mongol inventiveness!
Fermented yak milk will never be trending in the US. Yoose
probably like it - ya
big goof! The very idea makes me want to vomit.
I don't think I've ever been within a kilometre (that's a measure of >>>>> distance) of fermented yak milk, but fantasize away.
If you had any sense at all, you'd know that the Koreans, Japanese,
and Chinese,
don't have much of a history of drinking milk. The Japanese did
invent the first
probiotic drink so you got no reason to gloat. Even the Aussies
drink the stuff.
You probably never knew that, sucker. Yoose gets the last word.
https://www.yakult.com.au/
They were the first?? That's curious because Europeans have been making
yogurt for thousands of years and Russians have been making and drinking >>> kefir for more than 3000 years. The Japanese may have adopted the use of >>> fermented milk but they sure as heck did not invent the probiotic drink. >>>
Depends on how you look at things. People were drinking fermented milk
for as long
as milk would ferment. They probably didn't have much choice
milk-wise. You could
also say that cheese and wine was invented to facilitate high class
gourmet eats.
The reality is that the whole idea of probiotics is one that appeared
in the 80's
in the US. It is only in the last 20 years or so that yogurt is being
sold as a
probiotic.
So what you are saying is that the recently came out with name
"probiotic" for something that they have been producing for thousands of years.
On 2026-09-22 5:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
They were the first?? That's curious because Europeans have been making
yogurt for thousands of years and Russians have been making and drinking >>> kefir for more than 3000 years. The Japanese may have adopted the use of >>> fermented milk but they sure as heck did not invent the probiotic drink.
Depends on how you look at things. People were drinking fermented milk for as long
as milk would ferment. They probably didn't have much choice milk-wise. You could
also say that cheese and wine was invented to facilitate high class gourmet eats.
The reality is that the whole idea of probiotics is one that appeared in the 80's
in the US. It is only in the last 20 years or so that yogurt is being sold as a
probiotic.
So what you are saying is that the recently came out with name
"probiotic" for something that they have been producing for thousands of >years.
Depends on how you look at things. People were drinking fermented milk for as long
as milk would ferment. They probably didn't have much choice milk-wise. You could
also say that cheese and wine was invented to facilitate high class gourmet eats.
That sounds good, I've not had it in ages. I'd probably follow up with
a snack of ice cream later. Much as I dislike milk, I really like most anything made from it.
Bryan Simmons wrote on 9/21/2026 3:31 PM:
On 9/21/2026 7:59 AM, Ed P wrote:
In the late 1960s, the school cafeteria had 2 cent half pints. At
Variations in peoplerCOs ability to digest lactose first came to
scientistsrCO attention after American dairy producers found a way to
rid themselves of a postwar milk surplus. To offload what they
couldnrCOt sell, they looked to the government to intervene. And it
did, buying the excess and embedding it in school lunches and other
places with publicly funded meals.
home, we had stupid 2%, but the stuff at school was whole milk. I
pretty much always bought a few extras. There were days where I'd
drink 4 or 5 of them at lunch. I remember in 4th or 5th grade, the
price went up to 3 cents.
Your racist dad forced 2% milk on the family?-a Damn, no wonder you hate
his guts even more than Kuth!
He drank skim. I think my mother thought 2% was more healthful.
--
--Bryan
For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
tested on laboratory animals.
"Most of the food described here is nauseating.
We're just too courteous to say so."
-- Cindy Hamilton
"You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
-- George Carlin
Ed P wrote:
...cheese and cream soup...
That sounds good, I've not had it in ages. I'd probably follow up with
a snack of ice cream later. Much as I dislike milk, I really like most
anything made from it.
On 2026-09-24 5:02 a.m., songbird wrote:
Ed P wrote:It something a lot of milk drinkers may not understand. I don't dislike
...cheese and cream soup...
That sounds good, I've not had it in ages.-a I'd probably follow up with >>> a snack of ice cream later.-a Much as I dislike milk, I really like most >>> anything made from it.
the flavour of milk. I dislike what it does to me
On 2026-09-24 5:02 a.m., songbird wrote:
Ed P wrote:It something a lot of milk drinkers may not understand. I don't dislike
...cheese and cream soup...
That sounds good, I've not had it in ages. I'd probably follow up with
a snack of ice cream later. Much as I dislike milk, I really like most
anything made from it.
the flavour of milk. I dislike what it does to me and have developed an >aversion to drinking it.
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