• Dinner Tonight 9/19/2026 - another Grilled Cheese Sandwich

    From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 17:17:13 2026
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    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides. Then I discovered the method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself
    in the skillet. Add the cheese(s), top it with the other slice, cook
    until nicely browned then flip it over, add a little more butter if
    needed to brown the bread on both sides.

    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh). At any rate, I find that method to make much more
    sense than spreading butter on the outside of the bread first. YMMV.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich. Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)
    --
    Jill

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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 17:10:08 2026
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    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself
    in the skillet.-a Add the cheese(s), top it with the other slice, cook
    until nicely browned then flip it over, add a little more butter if
    needed to brown the bread on both sides.

    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh).-a At any rate, I find that method to make much more sense than spreading butter on the outside of the bread first.-a YMMV.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich. Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.

    https://www.merck.com/news/mercks-lipfendra-enlicitide-is-the-first-and-only-once-daily-oral-pcsk9-inhibitor-approved-by-the-u-s-fda-to-reduce-ldl-c-in-adults-with-hypercholesterolemia/


    In fact, since saturated fats increase HDL levels as well as LDL, a combination of Lipfendra and saturated fats might be the most heart
    healthful way to go. As of next August, we will *both* be getting Social Security, and since we're already living within our means, that means a
    lot of extra cash, and at that point, I'm going to get my doc to write a Lipfendra Rx. If she doesn't, I'll look for a doc who will.

    Imagine a drug that makes butter more healthful than olive oil.
    --
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    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 08:25:28 2026
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    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 17:10:08 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.

    https://www.merck.com/news/mercks-lipfendra-enlicitide-is-the-first-and-only-once-daily-oral-pcsk9-inhibitor-approved-by-the-u-s-fda-to-reduce-ldl-c-in-adults-with-hypercholesterolemia/

    In fact, since saturated fats increase HDL levels as well as LDL, a >combination of Lipfendra and saturated fats might be the most heart >healthful way to go.

    AI number 1:
    No, that statement is not true, and combining heavy saturated fat
    intake with a prescription lipid-lowering medication like Lipfendra (enlicitide) is not considered a sound or heart-healthy approach.

    AI number 2:
    Partially true on the lipid effects of saturated fats, but the overall conclusion is not supported and is likely misleading. There is no
    evidence that pairing Lipfendra with a high-saturated-fat diet is
    rCLthe most heart-healthfulrCY approachrCoor even preferable to using
    the drug with a standard heart-healthy diet (lower in saturated fat,
    higher in unsaturated fats, fiber, etc.).

    AI number 3:
    No. That sentence mixes a real new drug with an oversimplified and
    misleading claim about saturated fat, and it is not supported by
    current cardiovascular evidence or by LipfendrarCOs labeling.

    AI number 4:
    No, this statement is not true and is medically misleading. While it
    contains a minor grain of truth about how saturated fats affect
    cholesterol, the overall conclusion is false and directly contradicts established cardiovascular health guidelines.

    Maybe check with your doctor Bryan. If they disagree with you, you can
    always wish that they die.
    --
    Bruce
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 22:47:19 2026
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    jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides. Then I discovered the method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself
    in the skillet.


    I'm still a 'butter the outside of the bread from edge to edge' girl.
    Sometimes that grilled cheese sandwich will even get several slices
    of pepperoni shingled on top of the cheese before the other buttered
    slice of bread goes on top. Mine gets done in the toaster oven.

    Tonight it's going to be a salad with an English cucumber, grape tomatoes,
    some croutons, a bit of shredded cheese, and bacon bits. I just boiled
    two eggs and they're chilling in the 'frig in cold water to add as well.

    ~
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 23:07:46 2026
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    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the method of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself in the skillet.-a

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich. Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.

    https://www.merck.com/news/mercks-lipfendra-enlicitide-is-the-first-and-only-once-daily-oral-pcsk9-inhibitor-approved-by-the-u-s-fda-to-reduce-ldl-c-in-adults-with-hypercholesterolemia/


    In fact, since saturated fats increase HDL levels as well as LDL, a combination of Lipfendra and saturated fats might be the most heart healthful way to go. As of next August, we will *both* be getting Social Security, and since we're already living within our means, that means a
    lot of extra cash, and at that point, I'm going to get my doc to write a Lipfendra Rx. If she doesn't, I'll look for a doc who will.


    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available. Until my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on several different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of. Antara? I thought that was a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you for about three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at all. It might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know until blood testing after a period of taking it.

    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330 per month. Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay? Factor in
    you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit when you chose to receive
    benefits before your actual retire date.

    ~
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 19:11:10 2026
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    On 2026-09-19 5:17 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself
    in the skillet.-a Add the cheese(s), top it with the other slice, cook
    until nicely browned then flip it over, add a little more butter if
    needed to brown the bread on both sides.

    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh).-a At any rate, I find that method to make much more sense than spreading butter on the outside of the bread first.-a YMMV.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich. Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)


    It's Saturday night so we had hamburgers. For the last few months I
    have been getting ready made burgers at Farmboy if I was in the area.
    They have terrific burger patties with bacon and blue cheese or bacon
    and double smoked cheddar and others. Today I opted to make my own. I
    minced some bacon and cooked it until it was done and the fat rendered.
    I then mixed the cooled cooked bacon in with the ground meat and pressed
    some cheddar into my wife's and blue cheese into mine. They turned out
    great. From now one I can save some money on the store made patties and
    just make my own.

    I don't know how much longer we can count on cooking on the BBQ. It is
    getting cooler every week and it is getting dark earlier.

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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 10:03:05 2026
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    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 23:07:46 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.

    https://www.merck.com/news/mercks-lipfendra-enlicitide-is-the-first-and-only-once-daily-oral-pcsk9-inhibitor-approved-by-the-u-s-fda-to-reduce-ldl-c-in-adults-with-hypercholesterolemia/


    In fact, since saturated fats increase HDL levels as well as LDL, a
    combination of Lipfendra and saturated fats might be the most heart
    healthful way to go. As of next August, we will *both* be getting Social
    Security, and since we're already living within our means, that means a
    lot of extra cash, and at that point, I'm going to get my doc to write a
    Lipfendra Rx. If she doesn't, I'll look for a doc who will.

    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available. Until my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on several >different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of. Antara? I thought that was
    a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you for about >three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at all. It >might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know until blood >testing after a period of taking it.

    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330 per month. >Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay? Factor in
    you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit when you chose to receive
    benefits before your actual retire date.

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because
    he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?
    --
    Bruce
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 20:00:41 2026
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    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 7:03 PM:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 23:07:46 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge. >>>
    https://www.merck.com/news/mercks-lipfendra-enlicitide-is-the-first-and-only-once-daily-oral-pcsk9-inhibitor-approved-by-the-u-s-fda-to-reduce-ldl-c-in-adults-with-hypercholesterolemia/


    In fact, since saturated fats increase HDL levels as well as LDL, a
    combination of Lipfendra and saturated fats might be the most heart
    healthful way to go. As of next August, we will *both* be getting Social >>> Security, and since we're already living within our means, that means a
    lot of extra cash, and at that point, I'm going to get my doc to write a >>> Lipfendra Rx. If she doesn't, I'll look for a doc who will.

    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available. Until my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on several >> different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of. Antara? I thought that was
    a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you for about >> three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at all. It >> might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know until blood >> testing after a period of taking it.

    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330 per month.
    Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay? Factor in
    you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit when you chose to receive
    benefits before your actual retire date.

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because
    he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?


    Ask him Master. He's here.


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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 11:18:35 2026
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    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 20:00:41 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 7:03 PM:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 23:07:46 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available. Until my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on several >>> different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of. Antara? I thought that was
    a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you for about
    three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at all. It
    might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know until blood >>> testing after a period of taking it.

    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330 per month.
    Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay? Factor in
    you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit when you chose to receive
    benefits before your actual retire date.

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because
    he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?

    Ask him Master. He's here.

    Dear Bryan, will your insurance pay for a drug that you only want to
    take because you want to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or
    will they refuse to pay for your redneck diet?
    --
    Bruce
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 21:25:56 2026
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    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 8:18 PM:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 20:00:41 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
    wrote:

    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 7:03 PM:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 23:07:46 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available. Until my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on several
    different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of. Antara? I thought that was
    a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you for about
    three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at all. It
    might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know until blood
    testing after a period of taking it.

    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330 per month.
    Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay? Factor in
    you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit when you chose to receive
    benefits before your actual retire date.

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because
    he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?

    Ask him Master. He's here.

    Dear Bryan, will your insurance pay for a drug that you only want to
    take because you want to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or
    will they refuse to pay for your redneck diet?


    That's better. I'll put in a good word for you with her royal Highness.


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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 21:34:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/19/2026 6:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese. >>>
    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich >>> and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the method >>> of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself >>> in the skillet.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich.
    Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.

    https://www.merck.com/news/mercks-lipfendra-enlicitide-is-the-first-and-only-once-daily-oral-pcsk9-inhibitor-approved-by-the-u-s-fda-to-reduce-ldl-c-in-adults-with-hypercholesterolemia/


    In fact, since saturated fats increase HDL levels as well as LDL, a
    combination of Lipfendra and saturated fats might be the most heart
    healthful way to go. As of next August, we will *both* be getting Social
    Security, and since we're already living within our means, that means a
    lot of extra cash, and at that point, I'm going to get my doc to write a
    Lipfendra Rx. If she doesn't, I'll look for a doc who will.


    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available. Until my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on several different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of. Antara? I thought that was
    a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    **********
    AI Overview

    Clinical trials for Lipfendra (enlicitide) show an overall safety
    profile similar to a placebo, with most adverse events occurring at
    comparable rates.

    General Adherence and Rates
    CORALreef Lipids Trial: Overall adverse events were reported in 77.7% of patients taking Lipfendra compared to 76.2% on the placebo, showing no meaningful difference. Discontinuation rates due to side effects were
    also similar between both groups.
    CORALreef HeFH Trial (Inherited High Cholesterol): Patients with
    heterozygous familial hypercholesterolemia noted a few specific mild
    side effects more frequently than the placebo group, though they still affected fewer than 1 in 10 people.

    Most Common Side Effects vs. Placebo
    Dizziness: Reported in 9% of Lipfendra patients compared to 4% in the
    placebo group.
    Diarrhea: Reported in 7% of Lipfendra patients compared to 2% in the
    placebo group (potentially related to the pill's sodium caprate
    absorption enhancer).
    Other common events: Symptoms like headaches, nausea, influenza, and respiratory infections occurred at rates closely matching the placebo group. **********>
    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you for about three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at all.

    I think that it is likely that I know substantially more than most primary
    care physicians about this very newly approved drug. They need to be up
    on hundreds of different things. I don't watch TV. We have never had cable/satellite. I don't see drug ads all the time except in hotel
    rooms. My medication requests are based on my own research. I can make arguments based on real research, not TV commercial hype. I have an appointment with the nurse practitioner, and plan to tell him that I
    will be asking for a Lipfendra Rx next year, and to put that in my visit summary. That way, my PCP will see it, and have time to research the
    drug, if she hasn't already.

    It might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know
    until blood testing after a period of taking it.

    If you had spent the time that I have, reading everything, and
    understood physiology, you would realize what a big deal this is. Plus,
    it is very likely that one would not need to dose daily to reap
    substantial benefit. Like semaglutide, enlicitide is a peptide, and the
    oral formulation depends on permeability enhancers. There are ways to substantially increase the percentage that is absorbed. With Wegovy,
    waiting 120 minutes, as opposed to the 30 minutes minimum, before eating
    or drinking nearly doubles the amount absorbed. There are other
    strategies, upon which I won't elaborate at this time.>
    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330 per month.
    Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay?

    That's the cash price. There is an almost zero chance the insurance
    would pay anything. Again, there are strategies for lowering that number.

    Factor in you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit
    when > you chose to receive benefits before your actual retire date.>
    We know the numbers. For a few reasons, it makes no sense to wait past
    the earliest time for persons in our situation. I've never made a lot of money, but I'm damned good at managing it. The simple math puts the
    break even point between taking it at 62 vs 70 at 82 and a few months,
    but when one factors in the growth of money that can be left in a
    typical retirement plan, that age increases by at least several years.
    When I look at the appreciation of my retirement account since starting
    SS, there is no doubt that I made the right choice. We can leave that
    money in until, tax-wise, it makes sense to draw it down.

    Meanwhile, we can afford to travel any time we want, as well as afford
    any medications and supplements to enhance--and potentially prolong healthy--life. I believe that you are in a financial position where you
    could afford the $4K a year. Maybe your LDL levels are as low as you
    think they need to be, but if they aren't, you should bring up Lipfendra
    at your next appointment.

    Doctors assume that nearly all patients do not have the intelligence
    and/or educational background and/or motivation to do the research to
    have any real input into their medication decisions, and they are
    correct in that--you really need to have all three. They act accordingly.
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 12:42:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 21:34:12 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/19/2026 6:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available. Until my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on several >> different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of. Antara? I thought that was
    a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    **********
    AI Overview

    Clinical trials for Lipfendra (enlicitide) show an overall safety
    profile similar to a placebo, with most adverse events occurring at >comparable rates.

    General Adherence and Rates
    CORALreef Lipids Trial: Overall adverse events were reported in 77.7% of >patients taking Lipfendra compared to 76.2% on the placebo, showing no >meaningful difference. Discontinuation rates due to side effects were
    also similar between both groups.
    CORALreef HeFH Trial (Inherited High Cholesterol): Patients with >heterozygous familial hypercholesterolemia noted a few specific mild
    side effects more frequently than the placebo group, though they still >affected fewer than 1 in 10 people.

    Most Common Side Effects vs. Placebo
    Dizziness: Reported in 9% of Lipfendra patients compared to 4% in the >placebo group.
    Diarrhea: Reported in 7% of Lipfendra patients compared to 2% in the
    placebo group (potentially related to the pill's sodium caprate
    absorption enhancer).
    Other common events: Symptoms like headaches, nausea, influenza, and >respiratory infections occurred at rates closely matching the placebo group. >**********>
    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you for about >> three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at all.

    I think that it is likely that I know substantially more than most primary >care physicians about this very newly approved drug. They need to be up
    on hundreds of different things. I don't watch TV. We have never had >cable/satellite. I don't see drug ads all the time except in hotel
    rooms. My medication requests are based on my own research. I can make >arguments based on real research, not TV commercial hype. I have an >appointment with the nurse practitioner, and plan to tell him that I
    will be asking for a Lipfendra Rx next year, and to put that in my visit >summary. That way, my PCP will see it, and have time to research the
    drug, if she hasn't already.

    It might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know
    until blood testing after a period of taking it.

    If you had spent the time that I have, reading everything, and
    understood physiology, you would realize what a big deal this is. Plus,
    it is very likely that one would not need to dose daily to reap
    substantial benefit. Like semaglutide, enlicitide is a peptide, and the
    oral formulation depends on permeability enhancers. There are ways to >substantially increase the percentage that is absorbed. With Wegovy,
    waiting 120 minutes, as opposed to the 30 minutes minimum, before eating
    or drinking nearly doubles the amount absorbed. There are other
    strategies, upon which I won't elaborate at this time.>
    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330 per month.
    Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay?

    That's the cash price. There is an almost zero chance the insurance
    would pay anything. Again, there are strategies for lowering that number.

    Factor in you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit
    when > you chose to receive benefits before your actual retire date.>
    We know the numbers. For a few reasons, it makes no sense to wait past
    the earliest time for persons in our situation. I've never made a lot of >money, but I'm damned good at managing it. The simple math puts the
    break even point between taking it at 62 vs 70 at 82 and a few months,
    but when one factors in the growth of money that can be left in a
    typical retirement plan, that age increases by at least several years.
    When I look at the appreciation of my retirement account since starting
    SS, there is no doubt that I made the right choice. We can leave that
    money in until, tax-wise, it makes sense to draw it down.

    Meanwhile, we can afford to travel any time we want, as well as afford
    any medications and supplements to enhance--and potentially prolong >healthy--life. I believe that you are in a financial position where you >could afford the $4K a year. Maybe your LDL levels are as low as you
    think they need to be, but if they aren't, you should bring up Lipfendra
    at your next appointment.

    Doctors assume that nearly all patients do not have the intelligence
    and/or educational background and/or motivation to do the research to
    have any real input into their medication decisions, and they are
    correct in that--you really need to have all three. They act accordingly.

    You're a redneck. Rednecks are dumb but have a big mouth. You can't
    even write a decent Usenet post after all these years. Since you're a narcissist, you think you're very smart. Your doctor knows better.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 21:55:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/19/2026 8:00 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 7:03 PM:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 23:07:46 GMT, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
    <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is
    huge.

    https://www.merck.com/news/mercks-lipfendra-enlicitide-is-the-first-
    and-only-once-daily-oral-pcsk9-inhibitor-approved-by-the-u-s-fda-to-
    reduce-ldl-c-in-adults-with-hypercholesterolemia/


    In fact, since saturated fats increase HDL levels as well as LDL, a
    combination of Lipfendra and saturated fats might be the most heart
    healthful way to go. As of next August, we will *both* be getting
    Social
    Security, and since we're already living within our means, that means a >>>> lot of extra cash, and at that point, I'm going to get my doc to
    write a
    Lipfendra Rx. If she doesn't, I'll look for a doc who will.

    Just remember, because a pharmaceutical company issues a new and
    wonderous drug
    does not mean your body can tolerate it. Even if one does not like
    taking statins
    that's one reason so many different compounds are available.-a Until
    my doctor and
    I found out Vytorin did all the things he wanted it to do, I was on
    several
    different compounds; compounds I'd never heard of.-a Antara?-a I
    thought that was
    a star; oops, no, that's Antares.

    If your doctor is worth her stethoscope, she'd want to monitor you
    for about
    three months/90 days, to see if this new drug is benefitting you at
    all.-a It
    might be absolutely great for you, but neither of you will know until
    blood
    testing after a period of taking it.

    $11 a day, or thereabouts doesn't sound bad, but that comes to $330
    per month.
    Will your insurance pay for it and will the $11/$330 be your co-pay?
    Factor in
    you took a 30% decrease in your Social Security benefit when you
    chose to receive
    benefits before your actual retire date.

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because
    he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?


    Ask him Master.-a He's here.

    I have quit clicking on Bruce the Worthless' posts. I only see them when quoted. The only health downside to saturated fats is the increase in
    LDL. If a drug prevented that increase in LDL, while allowing the
    increase in HDL that also results from saturated fat consumption, then
    it would advantage what the sissy labeled the "redneck diet," as an
    increase in the HDL to LDL ratio is a good thing. The sissy is like
    Trump. The sissy doesn't care about facts. The sissy stomps his feet and insists that he can't be wrong. Anything good about eating animal
    products must be "a hoax." The sissy is pathetic.
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 03:31:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    If you had spent the time that I have, reading everything, and
    understood physiology, you would realize what a big deal this is. Plus,
    it is very likely that one would not need to dose daily to reap
    substantial benefit.

    S N I P

    It doesn't matter if you don't have cable or satellite or how much you've
    read or researched. Or how much more you think you know than the doctor,
    it will all come down to how your body reacts to the new medication. How
    well you manage your money will count for naught, too.

    I wish you luck when this wonder drug becomes available; hopefully, it will help many. Efai

    ~
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  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 00:23:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/19/2026 7:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese. >>>
    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich >>> and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the method >>> of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself >>> in the skillet.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich.
    Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge. (snipped)> ~

    Not interested in whatever it is Bryan is touting. It's kind of like listening to Kuthe ramble on about CBD oil in his "cuppa plus" coffee
    and later yakking about THC and cannibus nursing.
    --
    Jill
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 19 23:32:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote on 9/19/2026 11:23 PM:
    On 9/19/2026 7:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack
    cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the
    sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the
    method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter
    itself
    in the skillet.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich. >>>> Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.
    (snipped)> ~

    Not interested in whatever it is Bryan is touting.-a It's kind of like listening to Kuthe ramble on about CBD oil in his "cuppa plus" coffee
    and later yakking about THC and cannibus nursing.


    Thanks for letting everyone know this, your Majesty. Know we know
    exactly where your highness stands on this important issue.


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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 16:37:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 21:55:29 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/19/2026 8:00 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 7:03 PM:

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because
    he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?

    Ask him Master.-a He's here.

    I have quit clicking on Bruce the Worthless' posts. I only see them when >quoted. The only health downside to saturated fats is the increase in
    LDL. If a drug prevented that increase in LDL, while allowing the
    increase in HDL that also results from saturated fat consumption, then
    it would advantage what the sissy labeled the "redneck diet," as an
    increase in the HDL to LDL ratio is a good thing. The sissy is like
    Trump. The sissy doesn't care about facts. The sissy stomps his feet and >insists that he can't be wrong. Anything good about eating animal
    products must be "a hoax." The sissy is pathetic.

    Bryan the Redneck doesn't know if I care about facts because Bryan the
    Redneck doesn't read my posts and therefore misses all the facts I
    bring up. That doesn't stop Bryan the Redneck from criticising my,
    unread by him, posts. That's how Bryan the Redneck rolls.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Hank Rogers@invalid@nospam.com to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 07:39:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 21:55:29 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/19/2026 8:00 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 7:03 PM:

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because
    he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?

    Ask him Master.-a He's here.

    I have quit clicking on Bruce the Worthless' posts. I only see them when
    quoted. The only health downside to saturated fats is the increase in
    LDL. If a drug prevented that increase in LDL, while allowing the
    increase in HDL that also results from saturated fat consumption, then
    it would advantage what the sissy labeled the "redneck diet," as an
    increase in the HDL to LDL ratio is a good thing. The sissy is like
    Trump. The sissy doesn't care about facts. The sissy stomps his feet and
    insists that he can't be wrong. Anything good about eating animal
    products must be "a hoax." The sissy is pathetic.

    Bryan the Redneck doesn't know if I care about facts because Bryan the Redneck doesn't read my posts and therefore misses all the facts I
    bring up. That doesn't stop Bryan the Redneck from criticising my,
    unread by him, posts. That's how Bryan the Redneck rolls.


    Master, you certainly have a hard-on for Bryan the Redneck.

    Go for it man! Good luck.



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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 18:26:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 07:39:37 -0000 (UTC), Hank Rogers
    <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

    Uncle Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 19 Sep 2026 21:55:29 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/19/2026 8:00 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/19/2026 7:03 PM:

    Will his insurance pay for a drug that he only wants to take because >>>>> he wants to eat unlimited amounts of saturated fat? Or will they
    refuse to pay for his redneck diet?

    Ask him Master.-a He's here.

    I have quit clicking on Bruce the Worthless' posts. I only see them when >>> quoted. The only health downside to saturated fats is the increase in
    LDL. If a drug prevented that increase in LDL, while allowing the
    increase in HDL that also results from saturated fat consumption, then
    it would advantage what the sissy labeled the "redneck diet," as an
    increase in the HDL to LDL ratio is a good thing. The sissy is like
    Trump. The sissy doesn't care about facts. The sissy stomps his feet and >>> insists that he can't be wrong. Anything good about eating animal
    products must be "a hoax." The sissy is pathetic.

    Bryan the Redneck doesn't know if I care about facts because Bryan the
    Redneck doesn't read my posts and therefore misses all the facts I
    bring up. That doesn't stop Bryan the Redneck from criticising my,
    unread by him, posts. That's how Bryan the Redneck rolls.


    Master, you certainly have a hard-on for Bryan the Redneck.

    Go for it man! Good luck.

    If that was true, you'd have an Eiffel Tower for Jill.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 09:06:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I don't know how much longer we can count on cooking on the BBQ. It is getting cooler every week and it is getting dark earlier.

    I'll probably take a pause on grilling sometime in the
    third week in January. Then resume in the following week.

    Or not, since we have Super El Nino. That usually brings us
    a mild winter; we might not get any weather below 20 F.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 20:36:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026 09:06:13 -0000 (UTC), Cindy Hamilton <chamilton5280@invalid.com> wrote:

    On 2026-09-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    I don't know how much longer we can count on cooking on the BBQ. It is
    getting cooler every week and it is getting dark earlier.

    I'll probably take a pause on grilling sometime in the
    third week in January. Then resume in the following week.

    Or not, since we have Super El Nino. That usually brings us
    a mild winter; we might not get any weather below 20 F.

    We're just coming out of winter. The coldest temperature I've seen in
    the house, getting up around 3:30 AM, was 19C/66F. Quick, where's my
    bathrobe?
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From mummycullen@mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 08:16:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Hank Rogers wrote:
    jmcquown wrote on 9/19/2026 11:23 PM:

    On 9/19/2026 7:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack
    cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the
    sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides. Then I discovered the
    method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter
    itself
    in the skillet.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich.
    Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.
    (snipped)> ~

    Not interested in whatever it is Bryan is touting. It's kind of like
    listening to Kuthe ramble on about CBD oil in his "cuppa plus" coffee
    and later yakking about THC and cannibus nursing.




    Thanks for letting everyone know this, your Majesty. Know we know
    exactly where your highness stands on this important issue.




    lol
    --
    Via JLA Forums web gateway for rec.food.cooking
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 09:34:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/19/2026 11:23 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/19/2026 7:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack
    cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the
    sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the
    method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter
    itself
    in the skillet.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich. >>>> Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is huge.
    (snipped)> ~

    Not interested in whatever it is Bryan is touting.-a It's kind of like listening to Kuthe ramble on about CBD oil in his "cuppa plus" coffee
    and later yakking about THC and cannibus nursing.

    You are a dried up cunt, and it pleases me knowing that you don't have
    much of a life. I notice that you've backed off of your schoolgirl
    giggling at Ed's posts, probably because you realize that no matter
    what, he's not interested in fucking you.
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 09:36:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/19/2026 11:32 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    jmcquown wrote on 9/19/2026 11:23 PM:
    On 9/19/2026 7:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack
    cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the
    sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the
    method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter
    itself
    in the skillet.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese
    sandwich.
    Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :) >>>>>
    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can
    afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is
    huge.
    (snipped)> ~

    Not interested in whatever it is Bryan is touting.-a It's kind of like
    listening to Kuthe ramble on about CBD oil in his "cuppa plus" coffee
    and later yakking about THC and cannibus nursing.


    Thanks for letting everyone know this, your Majesty.-a Know we know
    exactly where your highness stands on this important issue.

    She is bitter because she hasn't had her clit licked in many, many years.
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 13:30:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Bryan Simmons wrote on 9/20/2026 9:36 AM:
    On 9/19/2026 11:32 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
    jmcquown wrote on 9/19/2026 11:23 PM:
    On 9/19/2026 7:07 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    On 9/19/2026 4:17 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack
    cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the
    sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides.-a Then I discovered the >>>>>> method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter >>>>>> itself
    in the skillet.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese
    sandwich.
    Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :) >>>>>>
    One no longer has to worry about saturated fats any longer if one can >>>>> afford almost $11 a day. None of the downsides of statins. This is
    huge.
    (snipped)> ~

    Not interested in whatever it is Bryan is touting.-a It's kind of like
    listening to Kuthe ramble on about CBD oil in his "cuppa plus" coffee
    and later yakking about THC and cannibus nursing.


    Thanks for letting everyone know this, your Majesty.-a Know we know
    exactly where your highness stands on this important issue.

    She is bitter because she hasn't had her clit licked in many, many years.


    She has a clit ?!! When did it grow?


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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 16:55:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
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  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 19:39:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about? Olive oil has a very high smoke point.
    --
    Jill
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 20:15:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 for
    extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.



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  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 21:48:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.
    --
    Jill
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 20 21:41:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375
    for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.


    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty. I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety
    with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 11:21:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote in article <6ab08ced$0$24
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?a Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thank you for the correct information.

    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Well, fuck you too.

    *plonk*
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 12:41:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?a Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375
    for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.


    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty. I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 13:24:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    --8323329-144235162-1790011482=:446672
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE

    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026, jmcquown wrote:
    What are you talking about? Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Depends on the Olive Oil.

    EVOO has a smoke point between 350=C2=B0F and 410=C2=B0F (175=C2=B0C to 210= =C2=B0C), making it=20
    stable enough for everyday saut=C3=A9ing, roasting, and pan-frying. --8323329-144235162-1790011482=:446672--
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 13:27:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026, jmcquown wrote:
    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere near to
    a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 17:41:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026, jmcquown wrote:
    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere near to
    a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who never cooked a >> grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go >> with the butter, bread and cheese.

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 14:02:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    No need to sear a grilled cheese. Needs to be low and slow enough to
    actually cook the cheese through. My friend Linda is a genius, though: she microwaves the sandwhich to get the melting started before she adds it to
    the buttered pan. Genius.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 14:19:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Chris Abraham wrote in article <dcc2c8f5-1ae5-0d6e-0474- e4982d956e3d@gerriscorp.com>:

    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    No need to sear a grilled cheese. Needs to be low and slow enough to actually cook the cheese through. My friend Linda is a genius, though: she microwaves the sandwhich to get the melting started before she adds it to the buttered pan. Genius.

    I've microwaved it slightly afterwards, but never before.
    Interesting. That would be useful for those three-cheese stacks;
    I've never gotten those to come out right.
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 15:10:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-21 1:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.



    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly became
    my go to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat and
    flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the bread
    nicely browned.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 14:32:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 11:41 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>>>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375
    for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.


    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty. I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety
    with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The old gal hasn't been *serviced* in decades. Ed drives practically
    right past her, and this looks like a perfect place for a tryst. You
    know what it means when a woman repeatedly laughs at a guy's jokes when they're not really funny. https://www.bestwestern.com/en_US/book/hotels-in-yemassee/best-western-point-south/propertyCode.41068.html
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 15:37:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 2:19 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Chris Abraham wrote in article <dcc2c8f5-1ae5-0d6e-0474- e4982d956e3d@gerriscorp.com>:

    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    No need to sear a grilled cheese. Needs to be low and slow enough to
    actually cook the cheese through. My friend Linda is a genius, though: she >> microwaves the sandwhich to get the melting started before she adds it to
    the buttered pan. Genius.

    I've microwaved it slightly afterwards, but never before.
    Interesting. That would be useful for those three-cheese stacks;
    I've never gotten those to come out right.


    Sunbeam waffle iron, sandwich press. We bought it not long after we
    married in 1966.
    Preheat, stick in sandwich, close. When you see the cheese starting to
    melt and run, perfect every time.
    Plenty of room for two sandwiches.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 14:44:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 12:41 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026, jmcquown wrote:
    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere near to
    a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who never cooked a >>> grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go >>> with the butter, bread and cheese.

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    Microwaving at 10% power for a couple of minutes starts the cheese to
    melting.
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 15:46:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 11:21 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6ab08ced$0$24
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 for >>> extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thank you for the correct information.

    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Well, fuck you too.

    *plonk*

    Too funny! Still doesn't know how to cook a grilled cheese sandwich or
    think that I'd have the temperature cranked so high the drizzle of oil
    added to the melted butter would burn. "Plonk" indeed. LOL

    Jill
    --
    Jill
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 15:47:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 12:41 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>>>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375
    for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.


    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty. I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety
    with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The fact is, no one cooks a grilled cheese sandwich in a skillet on the stovetop anywhere near any smoking point.

    Jill
    --
    Jill
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 15:52:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 1:41 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026, jmcquown wrote:
    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere near to
    a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who never cooked a >>> grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go >>> with the butter, bread and cheese.

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    Exactly right, Cindy. Cooked on fairly low heat until nicely browned
    and the cheese is melted.

    I don't know where this idea of burning the sandwich came into play
    simply because I suggested adding a drizzle of olive oil along with the butter. You can always add more butter to the skillet. I got the idea
    for a drizzle of olive oil from some TV chef. I forget her name but it
    was the same person who demonstrated melting the butter in the pan first rather than slathering the bread with butter.
    --
    Jill
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 15:54:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 3:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-21 1:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat.-a At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.



    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly became
    my go to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat and flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the bread
    nicely browned.

    Yeah, that didn't work for me. Then again I have a cheap little air
    fryer. I like having to flip the sandwich in the skillet and be able to
    gauge when it's nicely browned on one side, time to turn it over and
    finish it off and the cheese is nicely melted. :)
    --
    Jill
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 16:49:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-21 3:47 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 12:41 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The fact is, no one cooks a grilled cheese sandwich in a skillet on the stovetop anywhere near any smoking point.

    Have you met my wife? She uses the smoke detector for a kitchen timer.
    Just about everything is cooked on high until the beepers tells her to
    take the detector outside, open the windows and turn on the fan.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 15:50:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 1:02 PM, Chris Abraham wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    And not at a very high heat.-a At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    No need to sear a grilled cheese. Needs to be low and slow enough to actually cook the cheese through. My friend Linda is a genius, though:
    she microwaves the sandwhich to get the melting started before she adds
    it to the buttered pan. Genius.

    I do that too. It's best to use 10% power. https://photos.app.goo.gl/HeSEEm9CJTSbaJXV6
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 21:37:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-21, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2026-09-21 1:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.



    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly became
    my go to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat and flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the bread
    nicely browned.

    I'll have to continue using a frying pan, since I've never seen
    the need for an air fryer.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 21:38:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 11:21 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6ab08ced$0$24
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>>>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 for >>>> extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thank you for the correct information.

    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Well, fuck you too.

    *plonk*

    Too funny! Still doesn't know how to cook a grilled cheese sandwich or think that I'd have the temperature cranked so high the drizzle of oil
    added to the melted butter would burn. "Plonk" indeed. LOL

    I'm not sure I can think of an oil whose smoke point is lower
    than that of butter, so the point is moot.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 21:39:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 12:41 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>>>>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I >>>>>>> do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is >>>>> 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 >>>>> for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.


    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty. I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety >>> with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The fact is, no one cooks a grilled cheese sandwich in a skillet on the stovetop anywhere near any smoking point.

    No one? There are a lot of idiots out there.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 21:55:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:

    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly became
    my go to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat and flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the bread
    nicely browned.


    The toaster oven is used here and set at 400-#F and flipped at about the 5rCo7-minute mark. Bread is a perfect golden brown at that point and I could go to a higher temperature, but there's no hurry. I'm doing other things in the kitchen like having my glass of milk ready or chomping on a pickle, etc.

    ~
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 18:29:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 3:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 11:41 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make >>>>>>>> it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I >>>>>>> do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is >>>>> 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 >>>>> for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.

    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty.-a I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety >>> with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The old gal hasn't been *serviced* in decades. Ed drives practically
    right past her, and this looks like a perfect place for a tryst. You
    know what it means when a woman repeatedly laughs at a guy's jokes when they're not really funny. https://www.bestwestern.com/en_US/book/hotels-in-yemassee/best-western- point-south/propertyCode.41068.html


    Thanks for sharing your masturbation fantasy with us. Do you type with
    one hand and utilize the other for pleasure? Or do you just re-read
    after you write it?
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 17:31:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote on 9/21/2026 2:46 PM:
    On 9/21/2026 11:21 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6ab08ced$0$24
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it >>>>>>> more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is
    570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375
    for
    extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thank you for the correct information.

    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Well, fuck you too.

    *plonk*

    Too funny!-a Still doesn't know how to cook a grilled cheese sandwich or think that I'd have the temperature cranked so high the drizzle of oil
    added to the melted butter would burn. "Plonk" indeed. LOL

    Jill

    Yes, and to think ... Your Majesty never gave her the right to post
    here, and you never gave her any authority to plonk your royal Highness!

    What is this world coming to?


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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 17:37:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote on 9/21/2026 2:47 PM:
    On 9/21/2026 12:41 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make >>>>>>>> it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I >>>>>>> do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is >>>>> 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 >>>>> for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a
    drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.

    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty.-a I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety >>> with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The fact is, no one cooks a grilled cheese sandwich in a skillet on the stovetop anywhere near any smoking point.

    Jill


    Please, your Majesty, what will be the royal warrant prescribing
    punishment for making a cheese sandwich which does not conform to the
    royal standard? We want to know. We want to please your Highness.

    We beg your Majesty's mercy.

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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 17:40:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Cindy Hamilton wrote on 9/21/2026 4:39 PM:
    On 2026-09-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 12:41 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I >>>>>>>> do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is >>>>>> 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 >>>>>> for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere >>>>> near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who >>>>> never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a >>>>> drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.


    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty. I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety >>>> with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The fact is, no one cooks a grilled cheese sandwich in a skillet on the
    stovetop anywhere near any smoking point.

    No one? There are a lot of idiots out there.


    Be patient. Her Majesty is doing her best to get rid of these people.


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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 17:42:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote on 9/21/2026 2:52 PM:
    On 9/21/2026 1:41 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Sep 2026, jmcquown wrote:
    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches
    anywhere near to
    a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who never
    cooked a
    grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of
    oil to go
    with the butter, bread and cheese.

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat.-a At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    Exactly right, Cindy.-a Cooked on fairly low heat until nicely browned
    and the cheese is melted.

    I don't know where this idea of burning the sandwich came into play
    simply because I suggested adding a drizzle of olive oil along with the butter.-a You can always add more butter to the skillet.-a I got the idea for a drizzle of olive oil from some TV chef.-a I forget her name but it
    was the same person who demonstrated melting the butter in the pan first rather than slathering the bread with butter.


    Thanks your Majesty.

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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 17:46:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote on 9/21/2026 2:54 PM:
    On 9/21/2026 3:10 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-21 1:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat.-a At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.



    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly
    became my go to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat
    and flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the
    bread nicely browned.

    Yeah, that didn't work for me.-a Then again I have a cheap little air fryer.-a I like having to flip the sandwich in the skillet and be able to gauge when it's nicely browned on one side, time to turn it over and
    finish it off and the cheese is nicely melted. :)


    That is the perfect method for your Highness, and your Majesty should
    continue it. However, your Highness should refrain from starting the
    same shit every week about the royal cheese sandwiches.

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  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 18:50:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Dave Smith wrote:
    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly became my go
    to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat and flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the bread nicely browned.

    We live in the future.
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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 18:54:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Chris Abraham wrote on 9/21/2026 5:50 PM:
    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Dave Smith wrote:
    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly
    became my go to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat
    and flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the
    bread nicely browned.

    We live in the future.

    You can try it, but I warn you. Her Majesty has not approved the use of
    air fryers to make cheese sandwiches. It's a very risky thing to do,
    but apparently some heretics have managed OK.

    If it fails, don't post it here. Her Highness would fly into a rage.


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  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 20:44:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 5:39 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 12:41 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I >>>>>>>> do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is >>>>>> 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 >>>>>> for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere >>>>> near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who >>>>> never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a >>>>> drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.


    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty. I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our anxiety >>>> with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The fact is, no one cooks a grilled cheese sandwich in a skillet on the
    stovetop anywhere near any smoking point.

    No one? There are a lot of idiots out there.

    Apparently the True Melissa is one of them. ;)

    Jill
    --
    Jill
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  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 20:54:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 6:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 3:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 11:41 AM, The True Melissa wrote:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make >>>>>>>>> it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I >>>>>>>> do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is >>>>>> 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 >>>>>> for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere >>>>> near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who >>>>> never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a >>>>> drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The old gal hasn't been *serviced* in decades.


    Thanks for sharing your masturbation fantasy with us.-a Do you type with
    one hand and utilize the other for pleasure?-a Or do you just re-read
    after you write it?

    Someone's obsession with sex is extremely boring. I'm sure his wife
    thinks so, too.
    --
    Jill
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 21:40:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-21 8:54 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 6:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 3:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    Thanks for sharing your masturbation fantasy with us.-a Do you type
    with one hand and utilize the other for pleasure?-a Or do you just re-
    read after you write it?

    Someone's obsession with sex is extremely boring.-a I'm sure his wife
    thinks so, too.

    Sex, eating ans drinking are examples of drive reduction behaviours.
    People and animals are born with the drive the longer they go without
    them the more they talk about them.
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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 12:21:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 21:40:31 -0400, Dave Smith
    <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

    On 2026-09-21 8:54 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 6:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 3:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    Thanks for sharing your masturbation fantasy with us.-a Do you type
    with one hand and utilize the other for pleasure?-a Or do you just re-
    read after you write it?

    Someone's obsession with sex is extremely boring.-a I'm sure his wife
    thinks so, too.

    Sex, eating ans drinking are examples of drive reduction behaviours.

    It reduces people's urge to drive a car?
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 21:59:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 5:29 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 3:32 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 11:41 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Hank Rogers wrote in article <118q5gi$3l16v$1@dont-email.me>:

    jmcquown wrote on 9/20/2026 8:48 PM:
    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make >>>>>>>>> it more
    heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I >>>>>>>> do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point. >>>>>>>
    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is >>>>>> 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 >>>>>> for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thanks for verifying the facts.


    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere >>>>> near to a smoke point.-a "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who >>>>> never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a >>>>> drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Plonking is the only right result for someone like you.

    Thanks for clearing that up so deftly, your Majesty.-a I too was very
    worried that she might be a troll, so it's good you've ended our
    anxiety
    with this royal proclamation.

    Many thanks your Highness!

    I've noticed that a number of other people here also know what to
    make of her. :-)

    The old gal hasn't been *serviced* in decades. Ed drives practically
    right past her, and this looks like a perfect place for a tryst. You
    know what it means when a woman repeatedly laughs at a guy's jokes
    when they're not really funny.
    https://www.bestwestern.com/en_US/book/hotels-in-yemassee/best-
    western- point-south/propertyCode.41068.html


    Thanks for sharing your masturbation fantasy with us.-a Do you type with
    one hand and utilize the other for pleasure?-a Or do you just re-read
    after you write it?

    You should just man up and fuck her. Every time you drive past her hurts
    her self esteem. If you can't get it up, there are the PDE-5 drugs, and
    if even those don't work, there are the Kuthe injections. Sure, Jill is
    65, but compared to you that's young. Sure, that thing is probably
    pretty dried out from disuse, but there *are* effective, water based lubricants like K-Y. It's pussy, Ed, and she wants you. Are you a
    silverhair or a has been?

    Of course, Jill might be quite frigid, and wants you to like her because
    so few people like her, and her coquettishness ("LOL, Ed!) was not about seeking a physical experience, but merely a figurative cuddle.

    If you think that my writing stuff like this is in any way erotic, you
    are fucking stupid, and you're not stupid. You are just pathetically
    poor at coming up with ways to insult me. All through typing this, my
    penis was as flaccid as yours seems to be 24/7. You seem to think that
    it's dignified, or respectful to women, that at your age you only get
    your dick wet in the shower.
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
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  • From EdP@esp@snet. to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 21 23:09:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 10:59 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    .

    If you think that my writing stuff like this is in any way erotic, you
    are fucking stupid, and you're not stupid. You are just pathetically
    poor at coming up with ways to insult me.

    No, you do that yourself when you write demeaning crap about people.
    Do you think people admire your smart comments? No, they just lower
    their opinion of you and alleged masculinity. >

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  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 14:03:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 23:09:52 -0400, EdP <esp@snet.> wrote:

    On 9/21/2026 10:59 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    If you think that my writing stuff like this is in any way erotic, you
    are fucking stupid, and you're not stupid. You are just pathetically
    poor at coming up with ways to insult me.

    No, you do that yourself when you write demeaning crap about people.
    Do you think people admire your smart comments? No, they just lower
    their opinion of you and alleged masculinity. >

    Bryan is the lowest of the low.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 07:33:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Cindy Hamilton wrote in article <118s832$bn0i$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 2026-09-21, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    On 2026-09-21 1:41 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    On 2026-09-21, Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> wrote:

    I am even worse: only cooked in butter for me.

    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.


    I tried cooking grilled cheese in the air fryer and it instantly became
    my go to method. There is no need to screw around with pan heat and flipping. Four minutes at 450F and the cheese is melted and the bread nicely browned.

    I'll have to continue using a frying pan, since I've never seen
    the need for an air fryer.

    People have found a lot of creative uses for those air fryers. I
    hear they're also the best way to prepare frozen french fries.

    I don't have the counter space, and I don't think I have the
    desire to learn a new cooking appliance anyway, so I'll probably
    stick with the frying pan as well.
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 07:35:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Cindy Hamilton wrote in article <118s85d$bn0i$2@dont-email.me>:
    On 2026-09-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    *plonk*

    Too funny! Still doesn't know how to cook a grilled cheese sandwich or think that I'd have the temperature cranked so high the drizzle of oil added to the melted butter would burn. "Plonk" indeed. LOL

    I'm not sure I can think of an oil whose smoke point is lower
    than that of butter, so the point is moot.

    I have fought oil fires, so I may be more cautious than some.

    There are enough feuds in this group that I don't feel bad about
    attracting a detractor. It probably means I'm fitting in. :-)
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
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  • From heyjoe@address@is.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 12:11:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    The True Melissa wrote :

    I have fought oil fires, so I may be more cautious than some.

    That just might be a clue that you're using higher heat than is
    needed to properly cook your food.

    Microwave to finish a grilled cheese? Fire is too hot, go lower and
    slower.

    Toasters don't need butter or oil to make toast. Other than flavor,
    there isn't a need for butter/oil to make a grilled sandwich.
    --
    the Cloud - your data on someone else's computer
    There is no cloud. It's just someone else's computer.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 10:17:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    heyjoe wrote in article <118tr9h$r2r2$1@dont-email.me>:

    The True Melissa wrote :

    I have fought oil fires, so I may be more cautious than some.

    That just might be a clue that you're using higher heat than is
    needed to properly cook your food.

    They were started by my son, who was underage at the time, so
    that doesn't seem likely.


    Microwave to finish a grilled cheese? Fire is too hot, go lower and
    slower.

    I will try this the next time I want to make a triple-decker.


    Toasters don't need butter or oil to make toast. Other than flavor,
    there isn't a need for butter/oil to make a grilled sandwich.

    The flavor's the point!
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 17:19:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    heyjoe <address@is.invalid> posted:

    The True Melissa wrote :

    I have fought oil fires, so I may be more cautious than some.

    That just might be a clue that you're using higher heat than is
    needed to properly cook your food.

    Microwave to finish a grilled cheese? Fire is too hot, go lower and
    slower.

    Toasters don't need butter or oil to make toast. Other than flavor,
    there isn't a need for butter/oil to make a grilled sandwich.

    I do like a light smear of butter on each slice of bread for flavor and
    it keeps the bread from just crumbling and making a mess when bitten into.

    ~
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 13:35:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/22/2026 1:19 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:

    heyjoe <address@is.invalid> posted:

    The True Melissa wrote :

    I have fought oil fires, so I may be more cautious than some.

    That just might be a clue that you're using higher heat than is
    needed to properly cook your food.

    Microwave to finish a grilled cheese? Fire is too hot, go lower and
    slower.

    Toasters don't need butter or oil to make toast. Other than flavor,
    there isn't a need for butter/oil to make a grilled sandwich.

    I do like a light smear of butter on each slice of bread for flavor and
    it keeps the bread from just crumbling and making a mess when bitten into.

    ~
    I've had many a sandwich on toast over the years. Even a cheese
    sandwich. Grilled cheese though, is a different experience and it has
    to be buttered.
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  • From Mike Duffy@mxduffy@bell.net to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 22:31:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 09:06:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 22 Sep 2026 22:31:43 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.

    Member of that horde can be identified by their crossposting.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mike Duffy@mxduffy@bell.net to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 23:28:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-22, Uncle Bruce wrote:

    Members of that horde can be
    identified by their crossposting.

    Et tu, Bruc|-? I hate it when I must
    agree, moreso than with Bryan.

    Verily, I scribe it thusly unto ye:
    'By their headers ye shall know them.'

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 22 19:01:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Mike Duffy wrote on 9/22/2026 5:31 PM:
    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.


    Forget it. Once her royal Majesty has condemned a person, they remain
    so forever.


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 10:06:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 22 Sep 2026 23:28:01 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxduffy@bell.net> wrote:

    On 2026-09-22, Uncle Bruce wrote:

    Members of that horde can be
    identified by their crossposting.

    Et tu, Bruc|-? I hate it when I must
    agree, moreso than with Bryan.

    You hate me more than Bryan? That's not possible. Bryan's the most
    despicable person in this group.

    Verily, I scribe it thusly unto ye:
    'By their headers ye shall know them.'

    Indeed, ye shall.
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 08:47:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Mike Duffy wrote in article <6ab301cf$0$19
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.

    Thanks. I've been here a few weeks now, I think, but I don't post
    that much here. I'm most active in the TV groups.
    --
    The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
    United States of America - North America - Earth
    Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
    Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
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  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 14:46:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/21/2026 10:09 PM, EdP wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 10:59 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    .

    If you think that my writing stuff like this is in any way erotic, you
    are fucking stupid, and you're not stupid. You are just pathetically
    poor at coming up with ways to insult me.

    No, you do that yourself when you write demeaning crap about people.
    Do you think people admire your smart comments?-a No, they just lower
    their opinion of you and alleged masculinity.

    WTF is this "alleged masculinity"?
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Bryan Simmons@bryangsimmons@gmail.com to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 14:57:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/23/2026 7:47 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Mike Duffy wrote in article <6ab301cf$0$19
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.

    Thanks. I've been here a few weeks now, I think, but I don't post
    that much here. I'm most active in the TV groups.

    I wore a black leather mini skirt on stage one time.
    --
    --Bryan

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

    "You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this
    country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes.
    The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor
    are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class."
    -- George Carlin
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Scott Gilbert@sapguru@schmegegge.net to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 16:04:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Bryan Simmons wrote:
    On 9/23/2026 7:47 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Mike Duffy wrote in article <6ab301cf$0$19
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.

    Thanks. I've been here a few weeks now, I think, but I don't post
    that much here. I'm most active in the TV groups.

    I wore a black leather mini skirt on stage one time.


    https://myimgs.org/image/O9ui2Oqx
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Uncle Bruce@Bruce@invalid.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 07:08:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 23 Sep 2026 14:57:15 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/23/2026 7:47 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Mike Duffy wrote in article <6ab301cf$0$19
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.

    Thanks. I've been here a few weeks now, I think, but I don't post
    that much here. I'm most active in the TV groups.

    I wore a black leather mini skirt on stage one time.

    Oh, you're so edgy, man! You're the new David Bowie! The new Lola!
    (yawn)
    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.postimg.cc/kGrR1tp8/orange-clown.jpg>
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 16:51:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Uncle Bruce wrote on 9/23/2026 4:08 PM:
    On Wed, 23 Sep 2026 14:57:15 -0500, Bryan Simmons
    <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/23/2026 7:47 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Mike Duffy wrote in article <6ab301cf$0$19
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 2026-09-22, The True Melissa wrote:

    I don't feel bad about attracting a detractor.

    The deflectors & rejectors are much worse.

    Welcome aboard. I waited a few days to make sure
    you did not change your nym. We've had a haphazard
    attempt to either take over or destroy this group
    and it recently looked like they(?) tried to
    ramp up the effort, this presenting as seemingly
    innocuous neophytes. Thusly you may have been
    precipitously mis-categorized by some.

    Thanks. I've been here a few weeks now, I think, but I don't post
    that much here. I'm most active in the TV groups.

    I wore a black leather mini skirt on stage one time.

    Oh, you're so edgy, man! You're the new David Bowie! The new Lola!
    (yawn)


    Master, you just don't know how to appreciate famous punk rock super
    stars like Chef Bryan. THE MAN IS FAMOUS!

    I bet he also had a magnificent makeup job and lots of body jewelry back
    then when he pranced around on stage in his miniskirt. But now, he's
    old and fat. He can't do it anymore.

    Just take a quick whiff Master, and let this be.

    You can do it Master.

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 18:29:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/23/2026 3:46 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 10:09 PM, EdP wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 10:59 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    .

    If you think that my writing stuff like this is in any way erotic,
    you are fucking stupid, and you're not stupid. You are just
    pathetically poor at coming up with ways to insult me.

    No, you do that yourself when you write demeaning crap about people.
    Do you think people admire your smart comments?-a No, they just lower
    their opinion of you and alleged masculinity.
    WTF is this "alleged masculinity"?


    Read what you write over time.

    Meantime, I want to give you an update. You seem to track these things
    for people so I want you to be accurate.

    I took a shower this morning. Yes, my dick got wet.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Wed Sep 23 18:09:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Ed P wrote on 9/23/2026 5:29 PM:
    On 9/23/2026 3:46 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 10:09 PM, EdP wrote:
    On 9/21/2026 10:59 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

    .

    If you think that my writing stuff like this is in any way erotic,
    you are fucking stupid, and you're not stupid. You are just
    pathetically poor at coming up with ways to insult me.

    No, you do that yourself when you write demeaning crap about people.
    Do you think people admire your smart comments?-a No, they just lower
    their opinion of you and alleged masculinity.
    WTF is this "alleged masculinity"?


    Read what you write over time.

    Meantime, I want to give you an update.-a You seem to track these things
    for people so I want you to be accurate.

    I took a shower this morning.-a Yes, my dick got wet.

    Have you read what you wrote ed?


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 03:39:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> posted:

    jmcquown wrote in article <6ab08ced$0$24
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

    On 9/20/2026 8:15 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
    On 2026-09-20 7:39 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/20/2026 4:55 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    jmcquown wrote in article <6aaefbd9$0$25
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more >>>> heart healthy (heh).


    Doesn't it scorch? Maybe you fry it at a lower temperature than I
    do.

    What are you talking about?-a Olive oil has a very high smoke point.

    Olive oil is actually more of a mid range smoke point. Avocado oil is 570. Canoa is 400, Coconut oil is 350. Ghee is 485. Olive oil is 375 for extra virgin, 391 for virgin and 468 for extra light.

    Thank you for the correct information.

    My point was and is, I do not cook grilled cheese Sandwiches anywhere
    near to a smoke point. "The True Melissa" is obviously a troll who
    never cooked a grilled cheese sandwich in its life, with or without a drizzle of oil to go with the butter, bread and cheese.

    Well, fuck you too.

    *plonk*


    WTTPP

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OpIbiFmY60





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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 03:53:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:

    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    No need to sear a grilled cheese. Needs to be low and slow enough to actually cook the cheese through. My friend Linda is a genius, though: she microwaves the sandwhich to get the melting started before she adds it to the buttered pan. Genius.

    You're right about Linda - she is a genius. I use Kewpie mayo to make a grilled
    cheese sandwich. I don't give a hoot about the smoking point. I love to burn food.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/tYynQhsg9agbqcV46

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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 06:09:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote:
    ...
    The fact is, no one cooks a grilled cheese sandwich in a skillet on the stovetop anywhere near any smoking point.

    the fact is that some people don't really pay much
    attention to what is going on or don't care or perhaps
    they have other mental issues which making cooking of
    certain kinds more difficult.

    i had to lecture someone fairly recently about not
    putting butter on toast to melt so it could become a
    fire hazard.


    songbird
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 06:06:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Ed P wrote:
    ...
    I've had many a sandwich on toast over the years. Even a cheese
    sandwich. Grilled cheese though, is a different experience and it has
    to be buttered.

    100% for me too. someone mentioned to me the other day
    about using mayo instead, erm, no thanks, butter has the
    right flavor, any thing else other than perhaps a bit of
    garlic salt is not likely to be ok to me, but i will remain
    open to other ideas if needed.


    songbird
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 05:58:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    jmcquown wrote:
    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides. Then I discovered the method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself
    in the skillet. Add the cheese(s), top it with the other slice, cook
    until nicely browned then flip it over, add a little more butter if
    needed to brown the bread on both sides.

    i don't spread the butter on the bread but put a blob
    of butter on the bread so that when i put it in the pan
    it melts and spreads itself.


    One can also add a little olive oil to the pan, allegedly make it more
    heart healthy (heh). At any rate, I find that method to make much more sense than spreading butter on the outside of the bread first. YMMV.

    I might have a few potato chips to go with the grilled cheese sandwich. Nothing heart healthy about this meal but it sure will taste good. :)

    yes, we had grilled cheese sandwiches the other day. as
    a side dish for me i had a green tomato that i'd dropped by
    accident that split so it needed to be used up so after the
    grilled cheese sandwiches were done i fried the green tomato
    (which wasn't as green as i'd expected but it all still
    tasted fine to me).


    songbird
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  • From songbird@songbird@anthive.com to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 06:02:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Chris Abraham wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
    And not at a very high heat. At high heat, the butter and bread
    start to burn before the cheese melts.

    No need to sear a grilled cheese. Needs to be low and slow enough to actually cook the cheese through. My friend Linda is a genius, though: she microwaves the sandwhich to get the melting started before she adds it to the buttered pan. Genius.

    only in butter here and if i have to microwave the
    sandwich for a few seconds to melt the cheese i'm ok
    with that.


    songbird
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 09:20:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-24 5:58 a.m., songbird wrote:
    jmcquown wrote:
    Tonight it will be whole wheat bread with cheddar and pepperjack cheese.

    I used to butter the bread on the outside and then assemble the sandwich
    and "grill" it in a skillet on both sides. Then I discovered the method
    of melting the butter in the skillet and letting the bread butter itself
    in the skillet. Add the cheese(s), top it with the other slice, cook
    until nicely browned then flip it over, add a little more butter if
    needed to brown the bread on both sides.

    i don't spread the butter on the bread but put a blob
    of butter on the bread so that when i put it in the pan
    it melts and spreads itself.

    I used to put the butter on the pan like that and use the spatula to
    spread it around a bit and then add the sandwich and push it around a
    bit to sop up the butter. FWIW these days I use olive oil for grilled cheese.

    I do a similar thing when I warm pitas. I put a little olive oil in the
    pan, put a pita in the pan and spin it around to get to oil spread. Then
    I flip it over and spin it around again.



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  • From Mike Duffy@mxduffy@bell.net to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 14:58:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-24, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:

    Grilled cheese though, [...] has to be buttered.

    [...] mayo instead, erm, no thanks,

    I have not tried mayo. Thus I cannot say which tastes best.

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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 11:57:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/24/2026 10:58 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:

    Grilled cheese though, [...] has to be buttered.

    [...] mayo instead, erm, no thanks,

    I have not tried mayo. Thus I cannot say which tastes best.


    Barely detectable if you have a good cheese. Mayo spreads easier and I
    happen to like mayo so works for me. A good sharp cheddar overpowers
    the bread lube.
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 12:20:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-24 10:58 a.m., Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:

    Grilled cheese though, [...] has to be buttered.

    [...] mayo instead, erm, no thanks,

    I have not tried mayo. Thus I cannot say which tastes best.

    I haven't tried it but can't see any reason it would work. It's
    basically emulsified oil. Personally, I use olive oil.

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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 12:45:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    songbird wrote in article <q19fom-5g2.ln1@anthive.com>:
    only in butter here and if i have to microwave the
    sandwich for a few seconds to melt the cheese i'm ok
    with that.


    Yeah, I feel as you do.

    Gotta keep an eye on it in there, though. The 30-second button is
    too long; it'll leave you with cheese sauce on toast... which is
    still okay, I guess, but not a proper grilled cheese sandwich.
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  • From Cindy Hamilton@chamilton5280@invalid.com to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 17:23:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-24, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 10:58 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
    On 2026-09-24, songbird wrote:
    Ed P wrote:

    Grilled cheese though, [...] has to be buttered.

    [...] mayo instead, erm, no thanks,

    I have not tried mayo. Thus I cannot say which tastes best.


    Barely detectable if you have a good cheese. Mayo spreads easier and I happen to like mayo so works for me. A good sharp cheddar overpowers
    the bread lube.

    I don't use good cheese. Mass-market sharp cheddar for me. Usually
    Kraft, but I tried Sargento today. Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato. It was pretty good.

    I've tried mayo for grilled cheese, and prefer butter. The
    dairy-on-dairy thing pleases me the best.
    --
    Cindy Hamilton
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 18:02:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Ed P <esp@snet.n> posted:

    On 9/24/2026 10:58 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:

    On 2026-09-24, songbird wrote:

    Ed P wrote:

    Grilled cheese though, [...] has to be buttered.

    Me, too!

    [...] mayo instead, erm, no thanks,

    I have not tried mayo. Thus I cannot say which tastes best.

    I've not tried mayo, either. I do love its' taste on many sandwiches
    and in many salads, though.

    Barely detectable if you have a good cheese. Mayo spreads easier and I happen to like mayo so works for me. A good sharp cheddar overpowers
    the bread lube.

    I do, however, like the taste of butter on grilled cheese sandwiches;
    it adds that smidge of flavor that I enjoy. One of these days I will
    try mayo on perhaps a half sandwich. If it's not for me, no big waste.

    ~
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  • From ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net@user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 18:08:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    songbird <songbird@anthive.com> posted:

    Chris Abraham wrote:

    My friend Linda is a genius, though: she
    microwaves the sandwhich to get the melting started before she adds
    it to the buttered pan. Genius.

    if i have to microwave the
    sandwich for a few seconds to melt the cheese i'm ok
    with that.


    songbird

    The pre-melting the cheese before it goes into a hot, I hope, pan is
    a bit puzzling to me. If your pan is hot enough it should toast the
    bread _and_ melt the cheese at the same time. If that pan is hot
    enough to trigger fire alarms, then the cheese really doesn't get a
    chance to melt.

    ~
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  • From Ed P@esp@snet.n to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 15:15:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/24/2026 1:23 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I don't use good cheese. Mass-market sharp cheddar for me. Usually
    Kraft, but I tried Sargento today. Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato. It was pretty good.
    If you see Kerrygold, grab it. A few pennies more but much better on
    the flavor.

    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar. WOW! Too good to put on a
    grilled sandwich.
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 17:16:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-24 3:15 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 1:23 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I don't use good cheese.-a Mass-market sharp cheddar for me.-a Usually
    Kraft, but I tried Sargento today.-a Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato.-a It was pretty good.
    If you see Kerrygold, grab it.-a A few pennies more but much better on
    the flavor.

    I keep looking for it but can't find it. I tried searching for where to
    buy it locally but two of the three places that claim to see it do not
    and the third is a produce market that shut down a couple months ago.



    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar.-a WOW!-a Too good to put on a grilled sandwich.

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  • From Hank Rogers@Hank@nospam.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Thu Sep 24 18:26:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Ed P wrote on 9/24/2026 2:15 PM:
    On 9/24/2026 1:23 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I don't use good cheese.-a Mass-market sharp cheddar for me.-a Usually
    Kraft, but I tried Sargento today.-a Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato.-a It was pretty good.
    If you see Kerrygold, grab it.-a A few pennies more but much better on
    the flavor.

    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar.-a WOW!-a Too good to put on a grilled sandwich.

    I bet that was expensive! What is the oldest cheese you ever ate Ed?

    What was the most expensive? I love cheese, but have never had the
    money to buy the exquisite stuff.

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  • From Graham@g.stereo@shaw.ca to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 08:46:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-24 1:15 p.m., Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 1:23 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I don't use good cheese.-a Mass-market sharp cheddar for me.-a Usually
    Kraft, but I tried Sargento today.-a Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato.-a It was pretty good.
    If you see Kerrygold, grab it.-a A few pennies more but much better on
    the flavor.

    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar.-a WOW!-a Too good to put on a grilled sandwich.
    A cheesemaker in Armstrong, BC, used to sell cheddars ranging in age
    from 1-17 years.
    I found that 5yr old was about the optimum. Anything above that was
    barely distinguishable from the 5 yr and the added price wasn't worth it.
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  • From Dave Smith@adavid.smith@sympatico.ca to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 12:14:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 2026-09-25 10:46 a.m., Graham wrote:
    On 2026-09-24 1:15 p.m., Ed P wrote:

    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar.-a WOW!-a Too good to put on a
    grilled sandwich.
    A cheesemaker in Armstrong, BC, used to sell cheddars ranging in age
    from 1-17 years.
    I found that 5yr old was about the optimum. Anything above that was
    barely distinguishable from the 5 yr and the added price wasn't worth it.


    My wife has a lot more interest in cheddar cheese than I have and she
    likes the old stuff. She has come to prefer the 3 and 4 year old over
    the 5 years and more.

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  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 13:34:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Wed, 23 Sep 2026, Ed P wrote:
    I took a shower this morning. Yes, my dick got wet.

    Noted.
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  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 13:44:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
    You're right about Linda - she is a genius. I use Kewpie mayo to make a grilled
    cheese sandwich. I don't give a hoot about the smoking point. I love to burn food.

    That's not burnt, that's perfect.
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  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 13:45:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026, songbird wrote:
    i had to lecture someone fairly recently about not
    putting butter on toast to melt so it could become a
    fire hazard.

    I feel like a lot of people do this.
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  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 13:46:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026, songbird wrote:
    100% for me too. someone mentioned to me the other day
    about using mayo instead, erm, no thanks, butter has the
    right flavor, any thing else other than perhaps a bit of
    garlic salt is not likely to be ok to me, but i will remain
    open to other ideas if needed.

    Wow, I actually might try that out. Sounds amazing. To me. I am originally from New Jersey.
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  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 13:51:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
    The pre-melting the cheese before it goes into a hot, I hope, pan is
    a bit puzzling to me. If your pan is hot enough it should toast the
    bread _and_ melt the cheese at the same time. If that pan is hot
    enough to trigger fire alarms, then the cheese really doesn't get a
    chance to melt.

    Yeah, I have never ended up with raw cheese but maybe she really stacks it
    on.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.food.cooking on Fri Sep 25 14:39:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    Chris Abraham wrote in article <ae25ec3b-279c-d9df-8da6- a566ceea5ecb@gerriscorp.com>:

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026, songbird wrote:
    i had to lecture someone fairly recently about not
    putting butter on toast to melt so it could become a
    fire hazard.

    I feel like a lot of people do this.

    I used to do that as a kid, but as I got older, I figured out it
    wasn't a great idea. Are there adults doing this?
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  • From Michael Trew@michael.trew@att.net to rec.food.cooking on Sat Sep 26 23:48:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/24/2026 3:15 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 1:23 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I don't use good cheese.-a Mass-market sharp cheddar for me.-a Usually
    Kraft, but I tried Sargento today.-a Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato.-a It was pretty good.
    If you see Kerrygold, grab it.-a A few pennies more but much better on
    the flavor.

    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar.-a WOW!-a Too good to put on a grilled sandwich.

    On my first road trip to Minnesota, I think 2016 or 2017, I bought a
    small wheel of sharp cheddar sealed in wax from one of those touristy
    type stores off of a highway exit. For whatever reason, I never opened
    or used it, it's still sitting on the back shelf near the top of the
    fridge. I bet it will be really sharp cheddar once I get around to
    cutting it open, LOL.
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  • From jmcquown@j_mcquown@comcast.net to rec.food.cooking on Sun Sep 27 00:57:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/26/2026 11:48 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 3:15 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 1:23 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I don't use good cheese.-a Mass-market sharp cheddar for me.-a Usually
    Kraft, but I tried Sargento today.-a Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato.-a It was pretty good.
    If you see Kerrygold, grab it.-a A few pennies more but much better on
    the flavor.

    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar.-a WOW!-a Too good to put on a
    grilled sandwich.

    On my first road trip to Minnesota, I think 2016 or 2017, I bought a
    small wheel of sharp cheddar sealed in wax from one of those touristy
    type stores off of a highway exit.-a For whatever reason, I never opened
    or used it, it's still sitting on the back shelf near the top of the fridge.-a I bet it will be really sharp cheddar once I get around to
    cutting it open, LOL.

    Hi Michael! And what on earth are you waiting for? Try the cheddar
    cheese. :)
    --
    Jill
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  • From dsi1@user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 28 03:22:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking


    Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> posted:

    On Thu, 24 Sep 2026, dsi1 wrote:
    You're right about Linda - she is a genius. I use Kewpie mayo to make a grilled
    cheese sandwich. I don't give a hoot about the smoking point. I love to burn
    food.

    That's not burnt, that's perfect.

    That's what I keep telling people!

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  • From Chris Abraham@chris@gerriscorp.com to rec.food.cooking on Mon Sep 28 12:27:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On Sat, 26 Sep 2026, Michael Trew wrote:
    On my first road trip to Minnesota, I think 2016 or 2017, I bought a small wheel of sharp cheddar sealed in wax from one of those touristy type stores off of a highway exit. For whatever reason, I never opened or used it, it's still sitting on the back shelf near the top of the fridge. I bet it will be
    really sharp cheddar once I get around to cutting it open, LOL.

    Maybe it's gone from cheddar to cedar.
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  • From Michael Trew@michael.trew@att.net to rec.food.cooking on Tue Sep 29 19:54:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.food.cooking

    On 9/27/2026 12:57 AM, jmcquown wrote:
    On 9/26/2026 11:48 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 3:15 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 9/24/2026 1:23 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


    I don't use good cheese.-a Mass-market sharp cheddar for me.-a Usually >>>> Kraft, but I tried Sargento today.-a Toasted, rather than grilled,
    and garnished with sliced ripe jalapeno, sliced scallion tops, and
    sliced tomato.-a It was pretty good.
    If you see Kerrygold, grab it.-a A few pennies more but much better on
    the flavor.

    I recently bought some 19 year cheddar.-a WOW!-a Too good to put on a
    grilled sandwich.

    On my first road trip to Minnesota, I think 2016 or 2017, I bought a
    small wheel of sharp cheddar sealed in wax from one of those touristy
    type stores off of a highway exit.-a For whatever reason, I never
    opened or used it, it's still sitting on the back shelf near the top
    of the fridge.-a I bet it will be really sharp cheddar once I get
    around to cutting it open, LOL.

    Hi Michael! And what on earth are you waiting for?-a Try the cheddar
    cheese. :)


    Hi Jill! I hope you've been well.

    I promise I will once I think up something better than mac'n cheese to
    use it in.
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