someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> posted:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange - like Chinese
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were handmade >and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas. They're coated >with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation practical.
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
songbird
I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange - like Chinese
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were handmade and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas. They're coated with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation practical.
On Sun, 17 May 2026 17:24:36 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> posted:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange - like Chinese
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were handmade >and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas. They're coated
with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation practical.
So they're chocolates coated with chocolate?
On 2026-05-17 1:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange - like Chinese
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were handmade and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas. They're coated
with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation practical.
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat. Years
ago when I went on a trip to Europe with my brothers and their wives I
went shopping with the SiLs in a town in Bavaria. There was a store with beautiful looking chocolates. The SiL who was tough to handle wanted to
get some to take home to my mother. I suggested that might not be a
good idea. We had at least two days of travel by car before getting to
Paris and it was pretty hot. She seemed a little upset about my
suggestion and got the chocolates. After we got back home the other SiL called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When she got home
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to her
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete mess.
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 17:24:36 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> posted:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange -
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
like Chinese food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked
like they were handmade and there wasn't any printed information
on the box. OTOH, as we all know, it's the act of giving
chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not a big fan of >chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas.
They're coated with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make >transportation practical.
So they're chocolates coated with chocolate?
People thought this guy was crazy for building a chocolate plant in
the desert. Heat is not conducive for storing and transporting
chocolate. The guy formulated chocolate that can be frozen without
blooming. My dad used to keep boxes of the stuff in his freezer and
could give it out as gifts anytime he wanted. You can't do that with
regular chocolates. It's simply amazing.
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
songbird
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> posted:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
songbird
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
~
On 2026-05-17 1:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange -
like Chinese
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were
handmade
and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all
know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not
a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas. They're
coated
with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation
practical.
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat.(snipped)> called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When she
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to her
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete mess.
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
-a-a someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
-a-a i could see why they gave it to us.
-a-a it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it?-a Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country
to "test"?-a Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
This post is rather silly.-a Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
On 2026-05-17 4:50 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
-a-a someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
-a-a i could see why they gave it to us.
-a-a it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it?-a Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign
country to "test"?-a Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
I don't doubt that there are some pretty bad chocolate bars coming from Europe. There are also lots of good ones. I was in the habit of eating a square or two of Lindt dark chocolate every night. It's hard to beat
that stuff. Once in a while I get some nice chocolate from the Dutch store.
This post is rather silly.-a Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
It's been a long time since I have bought chocolate in the US so I am
not in a position to compare them. I do remember being totally turned
off by Hershey bars. What a disappointment. I grew up watching American television and movies and that led me to think that a Hershey bar was
the best thing ever. Then I had one.-a Yech. I came to realize that the other American chocolate bars were much better.
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit
Kat bars
and they were made with matcha.-a Awful, simply awful.
~
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate substitute.-a That stuff sucked.
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it? Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country
to "test"? Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all andThis post is rather silly. Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
On 5/17/2026 2:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat.(snipped)> called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When she
got home
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to herOf course chocolate melts in the heat.-a That should not have been a big surprise.
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete mess.
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 17:24:36 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> posted:So they're chocolates coated with chocolate?
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange - like Chinese
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were handmade >>> and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas. They're coated
with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation practical. >>
People thought this guy was crazy for building a chocolate plant in the desert.
Heat is not conducive for storing and transporting chocolate. The guy formulated
chocolate that can be frozen without blooming. My dad used to keep boxes of the
stuff in his freezer and could give it out as gifts anytime he wanted. You can't
do that with regular chocolates. It's simply amazing.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-05-17 1:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange - like Chinese
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were handmade >>> and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas. They're coated
with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation practical. >>>
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat. Years
ago when I went on a trip to Europe with my brothers and their wives I
went shopping with the SiLs in a town in Bavaria. There was a store with
beautiful looking chocolates. The SiL who was tough to handle wanted to
get some to take home to my mother. I suggested that might not be a
good idea. We had at least two days of travel by car before getting to
Paris and it was pretty hot. She seemed a little upset about my
suggestion and got the chocolates. After we got back home the other SiL
called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When she got home
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to her
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete mess.
Is there anything more disappointing than a box of melted chocolates? I reckon
not.
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
-a-a someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
-a-a i could see why they gave it to us.
-a-a it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it?-a Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country
to "test"?-a Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
-a-a barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing.-a no chocolate
flavor.
-a-a songbird
This post is rather silly.-a Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
On 5/17/2026 2:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-05-17 1:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:(snipped)> called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When she
I've had a box of chocolates from Siberia. It was pretty strange -
like Chinese
food in Montana. The box and the chocolates looked like they were
handmade
and there wasn't any printed information on the box. OTOH, as we all
know, it's
the act of giving chocolates that counts, not the chocolates. I'm not
a big fan
of chocolate but my favorite chocolates are made in Las Vegas.
They're coated
with chocolate that's meant to be frozen to make transportation
practical.
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat.
got home
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to herOf course chocolate melts in the heat.-a That should not have been a big surprise.
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete mess.
On Sun, 17 May 2026 16:50:12 -0400, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it? Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country
to "test"? Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all andThis post is rather silly. Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
Rumour has it that American equivalents of chocolate bars that are
available in Europe, like Mars etc, contain more sugar. I can't
confirm or refute this.
On 2026-05-17 4:52 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 5/17/2026 2:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat.(snipped)> called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When she
got home
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to herOf course chocolate melts in the heat.-a That should not have been a big
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete mess. >>>
surprise.
I think that trip was the of the end of my relationship with the one we
came to call the bitch in law. It should not have been a surprise. She >seemed to have been offended by my suggestion that it was a bad idea and >why. She never admitted it. The good SiL appreciated the advice after
the fact.
On 2026-05-17 4:52 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 5/17/2026 2:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat.(snipped)> called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When
she got home
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to herOf course chocolate melts in the heat.-a That should not have been a
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete
mess.
big surprise.
I think that trip was the of the end of my relationship with the one we
came to call the bitch in law.-a It should not have been a surprise. She seemed to have been offended by my suggestion that it was a bad idea and why. She never admitted it. The good SiL appreciated the advice after
the fact.
On 2026-05-17 4:51 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit
Kat bars
and they were made with matcha.-a Awful, simply awful.
~
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate substitute.-a That stuff sucked.
It was a similar colour and processed to a similar texture. Yeah. It
sucked. Do they still foist that stuff on people as a chocolate
substitute. I don't recall seeing anything about it lately and, given my experience with it I never bothered to check.
Funny thing. I just Googled Carob chocolate substitute. One site says
they have distinct flavour profiles but do not taste alike. Rather than getting recipes and stuff about using carob as a substitute for
chocolate there were a lot about using chocolate as a substitute for carob.
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos wrote on 5/17/2026 4:25 PM:
On Sun, 17 May 2026 16:50:12 -0400, jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
wrote:
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it? Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country >>> to "test"? Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all andThis post is rather silly. Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
Rumour has it that American equivalents of chocolate bars that are
available in Europe, like Mars etc, contain more sugar. I can't
confirm or refute this.
Oh no! Master, did your artificial friend go tit's up?
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-05-17 4:51 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit
Kat bars
and they were made with matcha.-a Awful, simply awful.
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate
substitute.-a That stuff sucked.
It was a similar colour and processed to a similar texture. Yeah. It
sucked. Do they still foist that stuff on people as a chocolate
substitute. I don't recall seeing anything about it lately and, given my
experience with it I never bothered to check.
Funny thing. I just Googled Carob chocolate substitute. One site says
they have distinct flavour profiles but do not taste alike. Rather than
getting recipes and stuff about using carob as a substitute for
chocolate there were a lot about using chocolate as a substitute for carob.
Carob trees are quite messy. I used to walk on the rotting pods of these trees.
It was a sticky, gooey, mess. It's also called St. John's bread. The pods could
be ground down to make flour. Then you can make St. John's bread bread
On 5/17/2026 5:27 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-05-17 4:52 p.m., jmquown wrote:Then you have chocolate "bloom".-a Lots of complaints about chocolate
On 5/17/2026 2:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
That's a good idea. Chocolate does not travel well in the heat.(snipped)> called to tell me she wished she had listened to me. When
she got home
she unpacked he stuff and was all set to take the chocolates to herOf course chocolate melts in the heat.-a That should not have been a
mother and found that they had partially melted and were a complete
mess.
big surprise.
I think that trip was the of the end of my relationship with the one
we came to call the bitch in law.-a It should not have been a surprise.
She seemed to have been offended by my suggestion that it was a bad
idea and why. She never admitted it. The good SiL appreciated the
advice after the fact.
bars that turn white in vending machines due to heat.-a There's nothing wrong with the chocolate, but it sweats and changes color.
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate substitute. That stuff sucked.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate
substitute. That stuff sucked.
A hundred years ago I bought a canister of carob powder as it was supposed
to be a great substitute for cocoa. It was terrible and I've never had
the impulse to repeat that purchase. -a-a-aEfyu
~
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate
substitute. That stuff sucked.
A hundred years ago I bought a canister of carob powder as it was supposed
to be a great substitute for cocoa. It was terrible and I've never had
the impulse to repeat that purchase. -a-a-aEfyu
~
On 5/17/2026 7:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit
Kat bars
and they were made with matcha.-a Awful, simply awful.
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate
substitute.-a That stuff sucked.
A hundred years ago I bought a canister of carob powder as it was
supposed
to be a great substitute for cocoa.-a It was terrible and I've never had
the impulse to repeat that purchase.-a-a -a-a-aEfyu
~
Imitation cocoa sucks.-a I'm not sure what this candy bar songbird
"tested" from another country is, but it might be nice if he identified
the brand, just in case someone else was tempted.
On 2026-05-17 4:50 p.m., jmquown wrote:
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
-a-a someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
-a-a i could see why they gave it to us.
-a-a it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it?-a Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country to "test"?-a Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
I don't doubt that there are some pretty bad chocolate bars coming from Europe. There are also lots of good ones. I was in the habit of eating a square or two of Lindt dark chocolate every night. It's hard to beat
that stuff. Once in a while I get some nice chocolate from the Dutch store.
This post is rather silly.-a Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
It's been a long time since I have bought chocolate in the US so I am
not in a position to compare them. I do remember being totally turned
off by Hershey bars. What a disappointment. I grew up watching American television and movies and that led me to think that a Hershey bar was
the best thing ever. Then I had one. Yech. I came to realize that the
other American chocolate bars were much better.
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqnh3Owg9E
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-05-17 4:50 p.m., jmquown wrote:
You "tested" it?-a Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country >> > to "test"?-a Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
I don't doubt that there are some pretty bad chocolate bars coming from
Europe. There are also lots of good ones. I was in the habit of eating a
square or two of Lindt dark chocolate every night. It's hard to beat
that stuff. Once in a while I get some nice chocolate from the Dutch store. >>
This post is rather silly.-a Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
It's been a long time since I have bought chocolate in the US so I am
not in a position to compare them. I do remember being totally turned
off by Hershey bars. What a disappointment. I grew up watching American
television and movies and that led me to think that a Hershey bar was
the best thing ever. Then I had one. Yech. I came to realize that the
other American chocolate bars were much better.
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that >a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqnh3Owg9E
I read the autobiography the Olympian Louis Zamperini last year who survived a Japanese prisoner of war camp. He was part of the crew on an aircraft that crashed in the Pacific Ocean and stated the raft they were on was equipped with
many things. One was a supply of a type of chocolate bar that was to be consumed
*very slowly* and it would sustain you as if you'd eaten a meal. The supply on the raft was for 8 days for several people and one of the survivors ate the
whole supply one night as they were sleeping.
Was this some type of chocolate bar Hershey's developed for the soldiers? I haven't a clue
On 2026-05-17 9:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I read the autobiography the Olympian Louis Zamperini last year who survived
a Japanese prisoner of war camp. He was part of the crew on an aircraft that
crashed in the Pacific Ocean and stated the raft they were on was equipped with
many things. One was a supply of a type of chocolate bar that was to be consumed
*very slowly* and it would sustain you as if you'd eaten a meal. The supply
on the raft was for 8 days for several people and one of the survivors ate the
whole supply one night as they were sleeping.
Was this some type of chocolate bar Hershey's developed for the soldiers? I
haven't a clue
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on a
raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted
what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book
was much better than the movie.
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
On 2026-05-17, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I had to look it up.
Carob was a short lived FAD for a while. Like orange julius. It didn't have the claimed magical properties, so it faded away many years ago.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
Was this some type of chocolate bar Hershey's developed for the soldiers? I
haven't a clue
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on a
raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted
what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book
was much better than the movie.
I did not know there had been a movie made of his life. He did state when they were 'rescued' and he got a look at the raft they were on he said it would not last more than a few days.
On 2026-05-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Carob was a short lived FAD for a while. Like orange julius. It
didn't have the claimed magical properties, so it faded away many
years ago.
I *loved* Orange Julius in the Sixties. When our government determined
that raw eggs were poisonous and OJ stopped offering them in the
product, my interest waned.
I see that there's still an OJ in town, in a mall that's too far away
for an old man to attempt. Hmmmmm, I see they're selling them at
Dairy Queen which is much, much closer. What to do? What to do?
On 18 May 2026 02:34:03 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-05-17, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I had to look it up.
I was still stuck at IBM CE. Computer Engineer?
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On 18 May 2026 02:34:03 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 2026-05-17, ItsJoanNotJoAnn webtv.net <user4742@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I had to look it up.
I was still stuck at IBM CE. Computer Engineer?
Customer Engineer. Some agreed with the title; the customer had to fix the >problem themselves. I never had that problem with any of our engineers >except for Pitney Bowes.
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate
substitute. That stuff sucked.
A hundred years ago I bought a canister of carob powder as it was supposed
to be a great substitute for cocoa. It was terrible and I've never had
the impulse to repeat that purchase. -a-a-aEfyu
On 2026-05-17, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Carob was a short lived FAD for a while. Like orange julius. It didn't
have the claimed magical properties, so it faded away many years ago.
I *loved* Orange Julius in the Sixties. When our government determined
that raw eggs were poisonous and OJ stopped offering them in the
product, my interest waned.
I see that there's still an OJ in town, in a mall that's too far away for
an old man to attempt. Hmmmmm, I see they're selling them at Dairy Queen which is much, much closer. What to do? What to do?
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqnh3Owg9E
On 5/17/2026 7:36 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
jmquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> posted:
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit Kat bars
and they were made with matcha. Awful, simply awful.
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate
substitute. That stuff sucked.
A hundred years ago I bought a canister of carob powder as it was supposed >> to be a great substitute for cocoa. It was terrible and I've never had
the impulse to repeat that purchase. -a-a-aEfyu
~
Imitation cocoa sucks.
I'm not sure what this candy bar songbird
"tested" from another country is, but it might be nice if he identified
the brand, just in case someone else was tempted.
On 2026-05-17 9:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely
unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an
emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency
rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My
guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a
long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqnh3Owg9E
I read the autobiography the Olympian Louis Zamperini last year who
survived
a Japanese prisoner of war camp.-a He was part of the crew on an
aircraft that
crashed in the Pacific Ocean and stated the raft they were on was
equipped with
many things.-a One was a supply of a type of chocolate bar that was to
be consumed
*very slowly* and it would sustain you as if you'd eaten a meal.-a The
supply
on the raft was for 8 days for several people and one of the survivors
ate the
whole supply one night as they were sleeping.
Was this some type of chocolate bar Hershey's developed for the
soldiers?-a I
haven't a clue
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on a
raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted
what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book
was much better than the movie.
On 5/17/2026 1:53 PM, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> posted:
-a-a someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
-a-a i could see why they gave it to us.
-a-a it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
-a-a barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing.-a no chocolate
flavor.
-a-a songbird
Years ago, one of our IBM CE was Filipino and he brought us some Kit
Kat bars
and they were made with matcha.-a Awful, simply awful.
~
I don't know about matcha but carob used to be touted as a chocolate substitute.-a That stuff sucked.
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on
a raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted
what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book
was much better than the movie.
Books usually *are* much better than the movies made from them. :)
Jill
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it? Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country
to "test"? Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
barely had any chocolate coating on it at all and
the flavor was pretty much sweet nothing. no chocolate
flavor.
songbird
This post is rather silly. Then again, I happen to like US chocolate.
In article <6a0a2a05$0$18$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
j_mcquown@comcast.net says...
On 5/17/2026 11:55 AM, songbird wrote:
someone gave us a candy bar from a european country.
i could see why they gave it to us.
it was as bad as pretty much any of the cheap cruddy
candy bars that are made in the USoA.
You "tested" it? Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country
to "test"? Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
he posted Cloetta Kex Chocolate Wafer
Which is a wafer biscuit.
Kex means biscuit (UK) of cookie (USA)
On 2026-05-18 5:39 a.m., jmquown wrote:
And anything is better than a Tom Cruise movie.
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on
a raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted
what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book
was much better than the movie.
Books usually *are* much better than the movies made from them. :)
Jill
On 2026-05-18, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
And anything is better than a Tom Cruise movie.
He's done some good movies. "Born on the Fourth of July", for
example.
Mostly it's dreck, though.
On 2026-05-18, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2026-05-18 5:39 a.m., jmquown wrote:
And anything is better than a Tom Cruise movie.
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on
a raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted >>>> what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book >>>> was much better than the movie.
Books usually *are* much better than the movies made from them. :)
Jill
He's done some good movies. "Born on the Fourth of July", for
example.
Mostly it's dreck, though.
On 2026-05-18 11:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
His acting ability is very, very limited.And anything is better than a Tom Cruise movie.
He's done some good movies.-a "Born on the Fourth of July", for
example.
Mostly it's dreck, though.
On 5/17/2026 9:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-05-17 9:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I read the autobiography the Olympian Louis Zamperini last year who
survived
a Japanese prisoner of war camp.-a
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on a raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted
what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book
was much better than the movie.
Books usually *are* much better than the movies made from them. :)
Jill
Ain't that the truth! Look at the book "Gone With the Wind." Scarlett
had three children and only the child that died named Bonnie was featured
in the movie amongst other omissions.
I'd love to read "The Counterfeit Traitor" but forking over $50 for a
used book is not in my bucket list. In the movie his wife is depicted
as leaving him and taking up with a Nazi official when in reality, she
stood by him entirely.
Did they really use dried blood and cocaine sprinkled on the ground to confuse the tracking dogs while escaping? I have other questions about
the book, but I guess they won't get answered.
~
On 2026-05-18 1:38 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'd love to read "The Counterfeit Traitor" but forking over $50 for a
used book is not in my bucket list. In the movie his wife is depicted
as leaving him and taking up with a Nazi official when in reality, she stood by him entirely.
Interesting tidbit about the Counterfeit Traitor. There is a scene near
the end of the movie where the Germans are moving in on Willam Holden's character and dozens of civilians on bicycles appear and block the Germans' way so he can get away. That happened in front of the Hotel l'Langleterre. During the war that hotel was a billet for German
officers. My father was taken on a sightseeing tour of Copenhagen by
the Danish Resistance while they prepared to get him out of the country
and over to Denmark. He went to the police station to get ID papers and
then two women Resistance workers took him to the Hotel l'Angleterre for lunch.
Did they really use dried blood and cocaine sprinkled on the ground to confuse the tracking dogs while escaping? I have other questions about
the book, but I guess they won't get answered.
~
On 2026-05-18, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
On 2026-05-18 5:39 a.m., jmquown wrote:
And anything is better than a Tom Cruise movie.
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks on >>>> a raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally spotted >>>> what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese ship. The book >>>> was much better than the movie.
Books usually *are* much better than the movies made from them. :)
Jill
He's done some good movies. "Born on the Fourth of July", for
example.
Mostly it's dreck, though.
On 2026-05-18 1:38 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
I'd love to read "The Counterfeit Traitor" but forking over $50 for a
used book is not in my bucket list. In the movie his wife is depicted
as leaving him and taking up with a Nazi official when in reality, she stood by him entirely.
Interesting tidbit about the Counterfeit Traitor. There is a scene near
the end of the movie where the Germans are moving in on Willam Holden's character and dozens of civilians on bicycles appear and block the
Germans' way so he can get away. That happened in front of the Hotel l'Langleterre. During the war that hotel was a billet for German
officers. My father was taken on a sightseeing tour of Copenhagen by
the Danish Resistance while they prepared to get him out of the country
and over to Denmark. He went to the police station to get ID papers and
then two women Resistance workers took him to the Hotel l'Angleterre for lunch.
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-05-18 1:38 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:If I remember correctly, the hotel had a large patio type outdoor eating area. The strutting, chubby German official got squashed by the truck
I'd love to read "The Counterfeit Traitor" but forking over $50 for a
used book is not in my bucket list. In the movie his wife is depicted
as leaving him and taking up with a Nazi official when in reality, she
stood by him entirely.
Interesting tidbit about the Counterfeit Traitor. There is a scene near
the end of the movie where the Germans are moving in on Willam Holden's
character and dozens of civilians on bicycles appear and block the
Germans' way so he can get away. That happened in front of the Hotel
l'Langleterre. During the war that hotel was a billet for German
officers. My father was taken on a sightseeing tour of Copenhagen by
the Danish Resistance while they prepared to get him out of the country
and over to Denmark. He went to the police station to get ID papers and
then two women Resistance workers took him to the Hotel l'Angleterre for
lunch.
when it rammed into him and his buddies as they were attempting an arrest.
On 5/17/2026 9:43 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
On 2026-05-17 9:08 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net wrote:
dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be
completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an
emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency
rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My
guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and
has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snqnh3Owg9E
I read the autobiography the Olympian Louis Zamperini last year
who survived
a Japanese prisoner of war camp.-a He was part of the crew on an
aircraft that
crashed in the Pacific Ocean and stated the raft they were on was
equipped with
many things.-a One was a supply of a type of chocolate bar that was
to be consumed
*very slowly* and it would sustain you as if you'd eaten a meal.
The supply
on the raft was for 8 days for several people and one of the
survivors ate the
whole supply one night as they were sleeping.
Was this some type of chocolate bar Hershey's developed for the
soldiers?-a I
haven't a clue
I read that book a few years ago. The poor guy spent about 6 weeks
on a raft while his crew mates died or went nuts. When he finally
spotted what he thought was land it turned out to be a Japanese
ship. The book was much better than the movie.
Books usually *are* much better than the movies made from them. :)
Jill
On Mon, 18 May 2026 00:29:33 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-05-17 4:50 p.m., jmquown wrote:
You "tested" it?-a Someone gave you a candy bar from some foreign country
to "test"?-a Why not divulge the name of the candy bar?
I don't doubt that there are some pretty bad chocolate bars coming from >> Europe. There are also lots of good ones. I was in the habit of eating a >> square or two of Lindt dark chocolate every night. It's hard to beat
that stuff. Once in a while I get some nice chocolate from the Dutch store.
This post is rather silly.-a Then again, I happen to like US chocolate. >>It's been a long time since I have bought chocolate in the US so I am
not in a position to compare them. I do remember being totally turned
off by Hershey bars. What a disappointment. I grew up watching American >> television and movies and that led me to think that a Hershey bar was
the best thing ever. Then I had one. Yech. I came to realize that the
other American chocolate bars were much better.
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
But you're not Mr Doom and Gloom, right?
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 18 May 2026 00:29:33 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
But you're not Mr Doom and Gloom, right?
I can see the future, but I don't fear it. I just go with the flow, man.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5MsQKqKizkDmhAm4A
On Mon, 18 May 2026 20:20:58 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 18 May 2026 00:29:33 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
But you're not Mr Doom and Gloom, right?
I can see the future, but I don't fear it. I just go with the flow, man.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5MsQKqKizkDmhAm4A
You're always talking about biblical disasters. Famine, war, "kids"
killing boomers, "when the shit hits the fan". Cheer up!
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:https://youtu.be/q30UFr_5ltA
On Mon, 18 May 2026 00:29:33 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> posted:
On 2026-05-17 4:50 p.m., jmquown wrote:
You "tested" it?-a Someone gave you a candy bar from some
foreign country to "test"?-a Why not divulge the name of the
candy bar?
I don't doubt that there are some pretty bad chocolate bars
coming from Europe. There are also lots of good ones. I was in
the habit of eating a square or two of Lindt dark chocolate
every night. It's hard to beat that stuff. Once in a while I get
some nice chocolate from the Dutch store.
This post is rather silly.-a Then again, I happen to like US
chocolate.
It's been a long time since I have bought chocolate in the US so
I am not in a position to compare them. I do remember being
totally turned off by Hershey bars. What a disappointment. I
grew up watching American television and movies and that led me
to think that a Hershey bar was the best thing ever. Then I had
one. Yech. I came to realize that the other American chocolate
bars were much better.
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be
completely unacceptable today since they weren't meant to be a
treat but instead, an emergency ration. It might be a good idea to
sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it looks like
the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is
that a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration
and has a long shelf life would be a grand idea in case the shit
hits the fan.
But you're not Mr Doom and Gloom, right?
I can see the future, but I don't fear it. I just go with the flow,
man.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5MsQKqKizkDmhAm4A
On 2026-05-18 1:20 p.m., Graham wrote:
On 2026-05-18 11:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
His acting ability is very, very limited.And anything is better than a Tom Cruise movie.
He's done some good movies.-a "Born on the Fourth of July", for
example.
Mostly it's dreck, though.
There are a lot of actors like that. They play very distinctive
characters. They are always the same, not matter what movie they are in. They include John Wayne, Liam Neeson, Tommy Lee Jones....
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos wrote on 5/18/2026 3:50 PM:
On Mon, 18 May 2026 20:20:58 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
Pierre Choderlos de Laclos <bruce@invalid.invalid> posted:
On Mon, 18 May 2026 00:29:33 GMT, dsi1
<user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
The Hersey's chocolate bar as seen in WWII movies would be completely unacceptable
today since they weren't meant to be a treat but instead, an emergency ration. It
might be a good idea to sell those Hersey's today as emergency rations since it
looks like the weather might give us a wild ride this season. My guess is that
a nutrient rich material that doesn't require refrigeration and has a long shelf
life would be a grand idea in case the shit hits the fan.
But you're not Mr Doom and Gloom, right?
I can see the future, but I don't fear it. I just go with the flow, man. >>>
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5MsQKqKizkDmhAm4A
You're always talking about biblical disasters. Famine, war, "kids"
killing boomers, "when the shit hits the fan". Cheer up!
It's hard to make any sense out of shit Tojo says. He is like
Nostradamus, except he is da Hiwayan version.
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