• About that 1144 steel ...

    From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon May 11 16:49:50 2026
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    I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes likely to
    come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to build some kind
    of storage to keep the different types separated now that I'm stocking
    some known steels .
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    Snag
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    when they stayed foreign ...
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon May 11 18:45:14 2026
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    "Snag" wrote in message news:10ttiu3$17p8$1@dont-email.me...

    I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes likely to
    come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to build some kind
    of storage to keep the different types separated now that I'm stocking
    some known steels .
    --
    Snag
    I appreciated foreign cultures more
    when they stayed foreign ...

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    At machine shop auctions I've bought or hoss traded for shorter pieces from the stock rack. Some were color coded on the end though not identified by text. I paint one end of known metal with white nail polish and write with a fine point Sharpie, removing string tags etc. Then it can all be stored together compactly and spun in a lathe.

    https://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/16016-color-coding-on-steel/

    Where did you buy it?

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  • From David Billington@djb@invalid.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon May 11 23:48:14 2026
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    On 11/05/2026 22:49, Snag wrote:
    -a I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of
    assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes
    likely to come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to build
    some kind of storage to keep the different types separated now that
    I'm stocking some known steels .

    For smaller quantities plastic flat bottom guttering can be used to make drawers and it slides into a suitable rectangular recess sort of like a
    wine rack. My neighbour stores his various materials like this and they
    slide into the end of one of his workbenches.

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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon May 11 19:41:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 5/11/2026 5:48 PM, David Billington wrote:
    On 11/05/2026 22:49, Snag wrote:
    -a I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of
    assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes
    likely to come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to build
    some kind of storage to keep the different types separated now that
    I'm stocking some known steels .

    For smaller quantities plastic flat bottom guttering can be used to make drawers and it slides into a suitable rectangular recess sort of like a
    wine rack. My neighbour stores his various materials like this and they slide into the end of one of his workbenches.


    Maybe some 4" PVC pipe , the thin wall stuff they use for wastewater
    . Most of my stuff is shorts and I don't have all that much , I can
    stack 4 or 5 of those on the shelf under the mill .
    --
    Snag
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    when they stayed foreign ...
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon May 11 17:45:04 2026
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    On 5/11/2026 2:49 PM, Snag wrote:
    -a I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes likely to
    come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to build some kind
    of storage to keep the different types separated now that I'm stocking
    some known steels .


    Have you ever had one of those moments when its like somebody finally
    turned on the switch, and stuff just started working? I kinda had that
    happen with turning recently, and I am hoping I didn't over sell the
    1144. The reason I say this is detailed in my post about Torque vs
    Speed where I talked about walking some of the engineering race team
    guys in the back and turning some 4140QT (way to slow according to their
    lab tech) pretty fast and aggressively for me and getting good results.
    Maybe my turning steel switch finally got flipped on.

    Nah, 1144 machines pretty decently. It machines so nicely I kinda have
    issues trusting its claimed 100KSI in the annealed state.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From David Billington@djb@invalid.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue May 12 02:13:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 12/05/2026 01:41, Snag wrote:
    On 5/11/2026 5:48 PM, David Billington wrote:
    On 11/05/2026 22:49, Snag wrote:
    -a I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of
    assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes
    likely to come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to
    build some kind of storage to keep the different types separated now
    that I'm stocking some known steels .

    For smaller quantities plastic flat bottom guttering can be used to
    make drawers and it slides into a suitable rectangular recess sort of
    like a wine rack. My neighbour stores his various materials like this
    and they slide into the end of one of his workbenches.


    -a Maybe some 4" PVC pipe , the thin wall stuff they use for wastewater
    . Most of my stuff is shorts and I don't have all that much , I can
    stack 4 or 5 of those on the shelf under the mill .

    This is the sort of thing I had in mind https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235430184245 , sits nicely on a flat surface.
    I don't know if that style is available in the US. I've used it myself
    for a catch box for small bits cut with my treadle guillotine, it's made
    for jewellers IIRC and is about 6.5" wide cut max but handy to have for
    things I do and doesn't take up much floor space.

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon May 11 19:05:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 5/11/2026 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 5/11/2026 5:48 PM, David Billington wrote:
    On 11/05/2026 22:49, Snag wrote:
    -a I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of
    assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes
    likely to come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to
    build some kind of storage to keep the different types separated now
    that I'm stocking some known steels .

    For smaller quantities plastic flat bottom guttering can be used to
    make drawers and it slides into a suitable rectangular recess sort of
    like a wine rack. My neighbour stores his various materials like this
    and they slide into the end of one of his workbenches.


    -a Maybe some 4" PVC pipe , the thin wall stuff they use for
    wastewater . Most of my stuff is shorts and I don't have all that much ,
    I can stack 4 or 5 of those on the shelf under the mill .


    Waste pipe is handy stuff. When I was running wire everyday I had a
    piece of ABS heavy wall with a female adapter on each end and a screw in
    cap cap attached with a piece of folded link chain that I used for all
    my long installer, bits and push pull rods. It was permanently attached
    to the side of my ladder rack.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon May 11 23:50:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    "David Billington" wrote in message news:10ttuqs$1ig4m$1@dont-email.me...

    For smaller quantities plastic flat bottom guttering can be used to make
    drawers and it slides into a suitable rectangular recess sort of like a
    wine rack. My neighbour stores his various materials like this and they
    slide into the end of one of his workbenches.

    The PVC gutter in the NH stores is either beveled in to about half width on the lower corners or S shaped on the front, not much more space efficient
    than cylinders which pack closely if staggered. I like the idea of an open topped tray but not how easily the available gutter stock could twist and spill on my toes if filled anywhere near capacity. Drain pipe might be safer if less space-efficient and convenient, and glued, clamped rubber and
    screwed plastic end caps are available for it, so it can be temporarily
    stood up on end to lean in a corner.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue May 12 00:27:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    "David Billington" wrote in message news:10ttuqs$1ig4m$1@dont-email.me...

    This is the sort of thing I had in mind
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235430184245 , sits nicely on a flat surface.

    ----------------------------
    I finally got the link to open, Win 7 is becoming nonfunctional. We have similar gutters, perhaps narrower on the bottom, and with little twisting stiffness.

    I've ordered a second NVMe SSD to clone the boot drive to as the backup for
    a flea market Win 11 laptop for the Internet.

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  • From Bob La Londe@user16941@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue May 12 14:42:48 2026
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    Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> posted:

    On 5/11/2026 2:49 PM, Snag wrote:
    -a I sure hope Bob's buildup is accurate ... is 4 bucks a pound
    delivered an OK price ? I just placed an order for 15 pounds of assorted diameter/length drops . Looked like an assortment of sizes likely to
    come in handy in my little shop . I'm going to have to build some kind
    of storage to keep the different types separated now that I'm stocking some known steels .


    Have you ever had one of those moments when its like somebody finally
    turned on the switch, and stuff just started working? I kinda had that happen with turning recently, and I am hoping I didn't over sell the
    1144. The reason I say this is detailed in my post about Torque vs
    Speed where I talked about walking some of the engineering race team
    guys in the back and turning some 4140QT (way to slow according to their
    lab tech) pretty fast and aggressively for me and getting good results. Maybe my turning steel switch finally got flipped on.

    Nah, 1144 machines pretty decently. It machines so nicely I kinda have issues trusting its claimed 100KSI in the annealed state.




    Correction, 100ksi in the cold drawn state.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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