• Slide Lock Drill Press Vise

    From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Apr 19 14:21:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    My son and I made this for my dad as a Christmas present several years
    ago. When he had the brain tumor removed and I was helping out with everything I found it loose in his shop, so I installed it on his drill
    press. After he passed I removed it and put it on one of my drill
    presses, and I have used the heck out of it.

    I know some of you guys have expressed dislike of this design because of
    the amount of time needed to adjust the jaws with the screw. The thing
    is its not a precision locating device. Its a holding device. Clamp
    the material in it, move the vise wherever works to line up to drill,
    and then snug down the screw in the clamp end.

    If there is a center punch you align it with the drill, and then clamp
    the rear screw down. Your work piece can't you work piece can't spin.
    Its more about safety I think than anything.

    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/20260419_130604.jpg

    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/20260419_130559.jpg
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    CNC Molds N Stuff

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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Apr 19 17:21:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 4/19/2026 4:21 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    My son and I made this for my dad as a Christmas present several years ago.-a When he had the brain tumor removed and I was helping out with everything I found it loose in his shop, so I installed it on his drill press.-a After he passed I removed it and put it on one of my drill
    presses, and I have used the heck out of it.

    I know some of you guys have expressed dislike of this design because of
    the amount of time needed to adjust the jaws with the screw.-a The thing
    is its not a precision locating device.-a Its a holding device.-a Clamp
    the material in it, move the vise wherever works to line up to drill,
    and then snug down the screw in the clamp end.

    If there is a center punch you align it with the drill, and then clamp
    the rear screw down.-a Your work piece can't you work piece can't spin.
    Its more about safety I think than anything.

    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/20260419_130604.jpg

    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/20260419_130559.jpg


    I remember seeing those pictures . Maybe when you built it ?
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Apr 19 16:02:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 4/19/2026 3:21 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 4/19/2026 4:21 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    My son and I made this for my dad as a Christmas present several years
    ago.-a When he had the brain tumor removed and I was helping out with
    everything I found it loose in his shop, so I installed it on his
    drill press.-a After he passed I removed it and put it on one of my
    drill presses, and I have used the heck out of it.

    I know some of you guys have expressed dislike of this design because
    of the amount of time needed to adjust the jaws with the screw.-a The
    thing is its not a precision locating device.-a Its a holding device.
    Clamp the material in it, move the vise wherever works to line up to
    drill, and then snug down the screw in the clamp end.

    If there is a center punch you align it with the drill, and then clamp
    the rear screw down.-a Your work piece can't you work piece can't spin.
    Its more about safety I think than anything.

    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/
    uploads/2026/04/20260419_130604.jpg

    https://www.yumabassman.com/wp-content/
    uploads/2026/04/20260419_130559.jpg


    I remember seeing those pictures . Maybe when you built it ?

    Probably similar pictures. I just took those this morning. I was
    making a bracket to hold a battery box in place, and it was the best
    tool for the job. I use it most of the time when I use the drill press,
    and speed generally isn't an issue. I don't mean its not fast. I mean
    its fast enough. I loosen the top clamp, and slide the vise partway off
    the edge of the table where I can free spin the vise handle with a
    finger. Then when the part is secure I position it as needed and snug
    the top clamp screw. Not only is it pretty fast and pretty safe, its
    also pretty darn handy sometimes. Like for that really awkward bracket.

    Admittedly I don't use the drill press for the typical machining job
    anymore. Those usually all get drilled before they leave the mill/lathe.

    P.S. I was going to do an evaluation video of the cheapest press brake
    on the Internet, but my camera was positioned wrong and it would have
    been a terrible video. Proline. It was literally the cheapest press
    brake I could find. I think it was on eBay. That's kind of odd really
    as the last couple years the import tool vendors on eBay have crept up
    higher than Harbor Freight or Vevor. This one was a little cheaper net delivered. I think I make my own guide pins a little taller than the
    ones that came with it, so I can let the press lift the top die a little higher for clearance, but other than that it worked great for this quick
    and dirty project.
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    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Sun Apr 19 17:18:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 4/19/2026 4:02 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

    P.S.-a I was going to do an evaluation video of the cheapest press brake
    on the Internet, but my camera was positioned wrong and it would have
    been a terrible video.-a Proline.


    Correction. ProLineMax
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    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Apr 20 08:20:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:10s3rcq$c9dq$1@dont-email.me...
    ProLineMax
    Bob La Londe

    I have the 30" 3-in-1 and this:
    https://www.wttool.com/rdx-4-bending-brake?
    but nothing in between like that. Both are somewhat fussy to use
    accurately. They have almost been enough, angle iron and welding or a custom fab shop have sufficed for designs between their capabilities, such as a stronger and higher trailer hitch for my garden tractor.

    The 3-in-1 struggles and may need realignment at its rated capacity. It's happier with 0.050" aluminum and 24 gauge steel, which I usually cut with a more easily resharpened 8" bench shear. The 3-in-1 has been OK after some rework for occasional non-critical hobby work like electronics enclosures. I bought it second hand, the previous owner had given up on it.

    My initial reason to learn machine shop practice was to be able to design shapes that could be made quickly and cheaply, within the common vocabulary
    of standard machine tools. Electrical engineering grads I worked for apparently don't learn much outside their field, unlike chemists who may
    work in any industry and have to design what they need built. I studied Statics and Strength of Materials.

    The self-serving attitude I encountered was that machinists could do
    anything, difficult operations were job security, and I didn't find anything written about production engineering for efficiency which may be proprietary secrets. Apparently the practice even for Detroit is or was to design for
    the optimal balance of strength and weight and then "throw it over the wall" to the production department to figure out manufacturing.

    It was funny to see machinists react in horror to the first metric
    dimensioned job I gave them, a computer designed GPS patch antenna. They
    could do anything except push the inch/metric button on the DRO.

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Apr 20 08:31:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 4/20/2026 5:20 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:10s3rcq$c9dq$1@dont-email.me...
    ProLineMax
    Bob La Londe

    I have the 30" 3-in-1 and this:
    https://www.wttool.com/rdx-4-bending-brake?
    but nothing in between like that.-a Both are somewhat fussy to use accurately. They have almost been enough, angle iron and welding or a
    custom fab shop have sufficed for designs between their capabilities,
    such as a stronger and higher trailer hitch for my garden tractor.

    The 3-in-1 struggles and may need realignment at its rated capacity.
    It's happier with 0.050" aluminum and 24 gauge steel, which I usually
    cut with a more easily resharpened 8" bench shear. The 3-in-1 has been
    OK after some rework for occasional non-critical hobby work like
    electronics enclosures. I bought it second hand, the previous owner had given up on it.

    My initial reason to learn machine shop practice was to be able to
    design shapes that could be made quickly and cheaply, within the common vocabulary of standard machine tools. Electrical engineering grads I
    worked for apparently don't learn much outside their field, unlike
    chemists who may work in any industry and have to design what they need built. I studied Statics and Strength of Materials.

    The self-serving attitude I encountered was that machinists could do anything, difficult operations were job security, and I didn't find
    anything written about production engineering for efficiency which may
    be proprietary secrets. Apparently the practice even for Detroit is or
    was to design for the optimal balance of strength and weight and then
    "throw it over the wall" to the production department to figure out manufacturing.

    It was funny to see machinists react in horror to the first metric dimensioned job I gave them, a computer designed GPS patch antenna. They could do anything except push the inch/metric button on the DRO.



    I've actually got 4 bending brakes. My first one was a vise brake, and overall the one I used the most in the past. I've since found better
    methods for everything I did with it. Its an okay light gage bender,
    but what I most used it for was bending stainless wire for pull pins for
    lead casting molds. I've since taken to using a cheap bender off ebay
    for that job. The bender is intended for rod and thin bar, but it does
    a great job on stainless wire and rod upto 1/4 inch. I quickly ran up
    against the limits of the vise brake for sheet, and bought the 30"
    Harbor Freight bending brake.

    I did quite a few jobs with the HF 30 inch brake until I bought the
    Tennsmith 48" brake. The Tennsmith has been used most recently for
    bending 1/4" polycarbonate sheet for a semi custom boat windshield. I
    don't use it much, because its big, heavy, and usually blocked in by
    other stuff on both the front and the back.

    The press brake was purchased for bending heavier stock. Things like
    1/4x3 inch A36. I used it for the project pictured because I needed to assemble it, and since I needed to assemble it, I might as well use it
    for the intended project, but my first original vise brake would
    certainly have bent the 80 thousandths 5052 sheet easily.
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    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Apr 20 13:35:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:10s5gsa$r6tj$1@dont-email.me...

    I've actually got 4 bending brakes. My first one was a vise brake, and
    overall the one I used the most in the past. I've since found better
    methods for everything I did with it. Its an okay light gage bender,
    but what I most used it for was bending stainless wire for pull pins for
    lead casting molds. I've since taken to using a cheap bender off ebay
    for that job. The bender is intended for rod and thin bar, but it does
    a great job on stainless wire and rod upto 1/4 inch. I quickly ran up
    against the limits of the vise brake for sheet, and bought the 30"
    Harbor Freight bending brake.

    I did quite a few jobs with the HF 30 inch brake until I bought the
    Tennsmith 48" brake. The Tennsmith has been used most recently for
    bending 1/4" polycarbonate sheet for a semi custom boat windshield. I
    don't use it much, because its big, heavy, and usually blocked in by
    other stuff on both the front and the back.

    The press brake was purchased for bending heavier stock. Things like
    1/4x3 inch A36. I used it for the project pictured because I needed to assemble it, and since I needed to assemble it, I might as well use it
    for the intended project, but my first original vise brake would
    certainly have bent the 80 thousandths 5052 sheet easily.
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    ------------------------------

    An anvil can be quite useful for bending, such as rod in the square or round hole, or curves over the horn, and flattening sheet metal. With a forge and skill square stock can be bent to a square corner, both inside and out, by upsetting (shrinking) the metal, striking it endwise against the anvil to swell the hot end and then reshaping it. I've only watched the instructor do it. A skilled smith is a magician with only a hammer and anvil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34AiWo3DGg

    Mine is very old, hand forged wrought iron from the 1800s with visible weld seams. The harder top is flat and smooth (I surface-ground it) but the edges are too rounded to bend sharp corners. It has obviously seen use though I haven't found which trade would choose an anvil of only 36 pounds (0-1-8).
    It does seem a good size for a sheet metal or machine shop, and a base for a cable lug hammer crimper or similar.

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  • From Bob La Londe@user16941@newsgrouper.org.invalid to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Apr 20 17:45:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking


    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> posted:

    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:10s5gsa$r6tj$1@dont-email.me...

    I've actually got 4 bending brakes. My first one was a vise brake, and overall the one I used the most in the past. I've since found better
    methods for everything I did with it. Its an okay light gage bender,
    but what I most used it for was bending stainless wire for pull pins for
    lead casting molds. I've since taken to using a cheap bender off ebay
    for that job. The bender is intended for rod and thin bar, but it does
    a great job on stainless wire and rod upto 1/4 inch. I quickly ran up against the limits of the vise brake for sheet, and bought the 30"
    Harbor Freight bending brake.

    I did quite a few jobs with the HF 30 inch brake until I bought the
    Tennsmith 48" brake. The Tennsmith has been used most recently for
    bending 1/4" polycarbonate sheet for a semi custom boat windshield. I
    don't use it much, because its big, heavy, and usually blocked in by
    other stuff on both the front and the back.

    The press brake was purchased for bending heavier stock. Things like
    1/4x3 inch A36. I used it for the project pictured because I needed to assemble it, and since I needed to assemble it, I might as well use it
    for the intended project, but my first original vise brake would
    certainly have bent the 80 thousandths 5052 sheet easily.
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    ------------------------------

    An anvil can be quite useful for bending, such as rod in the square or round hole, or curves over the horn, and flattening sheet metal. With a forge and skill square stock can be bent to a square corner, both inside and out, by upsetting (shrinking) the metal, striking it endwise against the anvil to swell the hot end and then reshaping it. I've only watched the instructor do it. A skilled smith is a magician with only a hammer and anvil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34AiWo3DGg

    Mine is very old, hand forged wrought iron from the 1800s with visible weld seams. The harder top is flat and smooth (I surface-ground it) but the edges are too rounded to bend sharp corners. It has obviously seen use though I haven't found which trade would choose an anvil of only 36 pounds (0-1-8). It does seem a good size for a sheet metal or machine shop, and a base for a cable lug hammer crimper or similar.


    You know that generally most of the blacksmiths that I follow on youtube and facebook want the edges of an anvil to be round.


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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Apr 20 11:16:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 4/20/2026 5:20 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:10s3rcq$c9dq$1@dont-email.me...
    ProLineMax
    Bob La Londe

    I have the 30" 3-in-1 and this:
    https://www.wttool.com/rdx-4-bending-brake?
    but nothing in between like that.-a Both are somewhat fussy to use accurately. They have almost been enough, angle iron and welding or a
    custom fab shop have sufficed for designs between their capabilities,
    such as a stronger and higher trailer hitch for my garden tractor.

    The 3-in-1 struggles and may need realignment at its rated capacity.
    It's happier with 0.050" aluminum and 24 gauge steel, which I usually
    cut with a more easily resharpened 8" bench shear. The 3-in-1 has been
    OK after some rework for occasional non-critical hobby work like
    electronics enclosures. I bought it second hand, the previous owner had given up on it.

    My initial reason to learn machine shop practice was to be able to
    design shapes that could be made quickly and cheaply, within the common vocabulary of standard machine tools. Electrical engineering grads I
    worked for apparently don't learn much outside their field, unlike
    chemists who may work in any industry and have to design what they need built. I studied Statics and Strength of Materials.

    The self-serving attitude I encountered was that machinists could do anything, difficult operations were job security, and I didn't find
    anything written about production engineering for efficiency which may
    be proprietary secrets. Apparently the practice even for Detroit is or
    was to design for the optimal balance of strength and weight and then
    "throw it over the wall" to the production department to figure out manufacturing.

    It was funny to see machinists react in horror to the first metric dimensioned job I gave them, a computer designed GPS patch antenna. They could do anything except push the inch/metric button on the DRO.

    I was in school during the Jimmy Carter era so I was exposed to metric
    at a young age. The hardest thing for me to remember was the difference between deci and deca. I just figure everything I do today in either
    inches or millimeters. I pretty much use them interchangeably since the
    US decided to set the SI at exactly 25.4 mm.

    Okay, if I am build shelves or cabinets I admit I devolve into multiple different units. Right now (in a little while) I need to cut a piece of plywood to complete a bench above my 7 office to 7 feet 9 inches and 23
    64ths. Right now I need to engrave trademarks onto and put hinge pins
    and handles on a couple lead casting molds so I can get them shipped out.
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    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Apr 20 21:59:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 4/20/2026 12:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> posted:

    "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:10s5gsa$r6tj$1@dont-email.me...

    I've actually got 4 bending brakes. My first one was a vise brake, and
    overall the one I used the most in the past. I've since found better
    methods for everything I did with it. Its an okay light gage bender,
    but what I most used it for was bending stainless wire for pull pins for
    lead casting molds. I've since taken to using a cheap bender off ebay
    for that job. The bender is intended for rod and thin bar, but it does
    a great job on stainless wire and rod upto 1/4 inch. I quickly ran up
    against the limits of the vise brake for sheet, and bought the 30"
    Harbor Freight bending brake.

    I did quite a few jobs with the HF 30 inch brake until I bought the
    Tennsmith 48" brake. The Tennsmith has been used most recently for
    bending 1/4" polycarbonate sheet for a semi custom boat windshield. I
    don't use it much, because its big, heavy, and usually blocked in by
    other stuff on both the front and the back.

    The press brake was purchased for bending heavier stock. Things like
    1/4x3 inch A36. I used it for the project pictured because I needed to
    assemble it, and since I needed to assemble it, I might as well use it
    for the intended project, but my first original vise brake would
    certainly have bent the 80 thousandths 5052 sheet easily.
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    ------------------------------

    An anvil can be quite useful for bending, such as rod in the square or round >> hole, or curves over the horn, and flattening sheet metal. With a forge and >> skill square stock can be bent to a square corner, both inside and out, by >> upsetting (shrinking) the metal, striking it endwise against the anvil to
    swell the hot end and then reshaping it. I've only watched the instructor do >> it. A skilled smith is a magician with only a hammer and anvil.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34AiWo3DGg

    Mine is very old, hand forged wrought iron from the 1800s with visible weld >> seams. The harder top is flat and smooth (I surface-ground it) but the edges >> are too rounded to bend sharp corners. It has obviously seen use though I
    haven't found which trade would choose an anvil of only 36 pounds (0-1-8). >> It does seem a good size for a sheet metal or machine shop, and a base for a >> cable lug hammer crimper or similar.


    You know that generally most of the blacksmiths that I follow on youtube and facebook want the edges of an anvil to be round.



    Yeah , but not all of them . Mine's a 66 lb and when it was new all
    the corners were sharp and square . I've rounded 2 areas - different
    radii - and left the rest square but not all "sharp" . Works for me ,
    YMMV .
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    Snag
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    when they stayed foreign ...
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue Apr 21 11:30:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 4/20/2026 7:59 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 4/20/2026 12:45 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:

    "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> posted:

    "Bob La Londe"-a wrote in message news:10s5gsa$r6tj$1@dont-email.me...

    I've actually got 4 bending brakes.-a My first one was a vise brake, and >>> overall the one I used the most in the past.-a I've since found better
    methods for everything I did with it.-a Its an okay light gage bender,
    but what I most used it for was bending stainless wire for pull pins for >>> lead casting molds.-a I've since taken to using a cheap bender off ebay
    for that job.-a The bender is intended for rod and thin bar, but it does >>> a great job on stainless wire and rod upto 1/4 inch.-a I quickly ran up
    against the limits of the vise brake for sheet, and bought the 30"
    Harbor Freight bending brake.

    I did quite a few jobs with the HF 30 inch brake until I bought the
    Tennsmith 48" brake.-a The Tennsmith has been used most recently for
    bending 1/4" polycarbonate sheet for a semi custom boat windshield.-a I
    don't use it much, because its big, heavy, and usually blocked in by
    other stuff on both the front and the back.

    The press brake was purchased for bending heavier stock.-a Things like
    1/4x3 inch A36.-a I used it for the project pictured because I needed to >>> assemble it, and since I needed to assemble it, I might as well use it
    for the intended project, but my first original vise brake would
    certainly have bent the 80 thousandths 5052 sheet easily.
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff

    ------------------------------

    An anvil can be quite useful for bending, such as rod in the square
    or round
    hole, or curves over the horn, and flattening sheet metal.-a With a
    forge and
    skill square stock can be bent to a square corner, both inside and
    out, by
    upsetting (shrinking) the metal, striking it endwise against the
    anvil to
    swell the hot end and then reshaping it. I've only watched the
    instructor do
    it. A skilled smith is a magician with only a hammer and anvil.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34AiWo3DGg

    Mine is very old, hand forged wrought iron from the 1800s with
    visible weld
    seams. The harder top is flat and smooth (I surface-ground it) but
    the edges
    are too rounded to bend sharp corners. It has obviously seen use
    though I
    haven't found which trade would choose an anvil of only 36 pounds
    (0-1-8).
    It does seem a good size for a sheet metal or machine shop, and a
    base for a
    cable lug hammer crimper or similar.


    You know that generally most of the blacksmiths that I follow on
    youtube and facebook want the edges of an anvil to be round.



    -a Yeah , but not all of them . Mine's a 66 lb and when it was new all
    the corners were sharp and square . I've rounded 2 areas - different
    radii - and left the rest square but not all "sharp" . Works for me ,
    YMMV .

    I would have added that a varying radius down the edge is what they
    usually go for to facilitate different types of work, and a sharp edge
    is considered undesirable for two reasons. It may break easily, but
    also it can lead to cold shuts which can lead to hidden hard points for
    stress risers. I was replying from my phone, and while voice to text
    works the AI that manages the voice to text thinks its funny to totally
    mess up the translation.
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    CNC Molds N Stuff
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