• Speaking of stuck ...

    From Snag@snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Mar 30 07:11:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    I'm trying to get the front CV axles out of my (2007 650) Arctic Cat
    ATV , and the left side is kickin' my ass . Haven't got to the right yet
    . I've seen 2 descriptions of how these inboard CV joints are retained ,
    a simple ring in a groove that releases with a good yank and a lock
    system that you have to depress a release inside the inboard unit .
    Don't know which is correct for mine but I'm damned frustrated because
    neither is working !
    I plan on attacking the right side today or tomorrow , see if I can
    get that one out then I can supposedly drive the other out with a drift
    . But I don't want to bust things in the differential trying to get it
    apart ...
    FWIW the new axles have just a ring/groove retainment . This was
    supposed to be an easy swap , a one day job . Oh well , I did decide to
    order some other parts , wheel bearings and a couple of seals while I've
    got it apart and those won't be arriving for a few days . Hopefully by
    the time they arrive I'll be ready to install them .
    --
    Snag
    I appreciated foreign cultures more
    when they stayed foreign ...
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Mar 30 09:50:24 2026
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    On 3/30/2026 7:11 AM, Snag wrote:
    -a I'm trying to get the front CV axles out of my (2007 650) Arctic Cat
    ATV , and the left side is kickin' my ass .
    Now I'm pissed . Got the right side off , it was not fully inserted
    and came right out . So I figured what the hell , grabbed the left side
    gave it a big 'ol yank and it jumped out like it'd been snake bit .
    So I figured since I'm awaiting other parts I'd check the tie rod
    ends and ball joints . Both are on order now too . Looks like I'll be
    busy next weekend ...
    --
    Snag
    I appreciated foreign cultures more
    when they stayed foreign ...
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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Mar 30 18:32:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 3/30/2026 7:50 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 7:11 AM, Snag wrote:
    -a-a I'm trying to get the front CV axles out of my (2007 650) Arctic
    Cat ATV , and the left side is kickin' my ass .
    -a Now I'm pissed . Got the right side off , it was not fully inserted
    and came right out . So I figured what the hell , grabbed the left side
    gave it a big 'ol yank and it jumped out like it'd been snake bit .
    -a So I figured since I'm awaiting other parts I'd check the tie rod
    ends and ball joints . Both are on order now too . Looks like I'll be
    busy next weekend ...

    I don't recall which vehicle it was. Might have been my 71 Caprice or
    maybe my 76 Volare wagon. Probably the Caprice. I remember rebuilding
    the transmission on that one.

    I didn't have enough room to use a transmission jack. I had to slide
    the transmission under the car, then crawl under on my back, lift the transmission up onto my chest, and slide the rest of the way into
    position. Then I could lift the tranny with my arms and try to free
    hand push it into position. I knew the basic concept. Line the notch
    up as best as I could lift, slide, nope, rotate a tiny bit one way or
    another and try again. I fought that SOB for an hour. My forearms were burning, and that darn thing just wouldn't go. Finally I gave up and
    went to see if my dad had any advice. Nope. That was the only way he
    knew how to do it. I just had to keep trying.

    I finally worked up the nerve to spend another hour under there
    screaming and crying if need be. Hopelessly I slid the tranny back onto
    my chest. Forearm lifted it into position, and it slide right in. In a
    panic with my forearms cramping I held it in place with one hand with as
    much force as I have ever used in my life while I scrambled around with
    my other hand blindly in the dirt feeling for the bolts.

    Yeah, I feel your pain.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Clare Snyder@clare@snyder.on.ca to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Mar 30 23:22:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 18:32:12 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 3/30/2026 7:50 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 7:11 AM, Snag wrote:
    aa I'm trying to get the front CV axles out of my (2007 650) Arctic
    Cat ATV , and the left side is kickin' my ass .
    a Now I'm pissed . Got the right side off , it was not fully inserted
    and came right out . So I figured what the hell , grabbed the left side
    gave it a big 'ol yank and it jumped out like it'd been snake bit .
    a So I figured since I'm awaiting other parts I'd check the tie rod
    ends and ball joints . Both are on order now too . Looks like I'll be
    busy next weekend ...

    I don't recall which vehicle it was. Might have been my 71 Caprice or
    maybe my 76 Volare wagon. Probably the Caprice. I remember rebuilding
    the transmission on that one.

    I didn't have enough room to use a transmission jack. I had to slide
    the transmission under the car, then crawl under on my back, lift the >transmission up onto my chest, and slide the rest of the way into
    position. Then I could lift the tranny with my arms and try to free
    hand push it into position. I knew the basic concept. Line the notch
    up as best as I could lift, slide, nope, rotate a tiny bit one way or >another and try again. I fought that SOB for an hour. My forearms were >burning, and that darn thing just wouldn't go. Finally I gave up and
    went to see if my dad had any advice. Nope. That was the only way he
    knew how to do it. I just had to keep trying.

    I finally worked up the nerve to spend another hour under there
    screaming and crying if need be. Hopelessly I slid the tranny back onto
    my chest. Forearm lifted it into position, and it slide right in. In a >panic with my forearms cramping I held it in place with one hand with as >much force as I have ever used in my life while I scrambled around with
    my other hand blindly in the dirt feeling for the bolts.

    Yeah, I feel your pain.
    First trans I removed was a cast iron powerglyde - 61 chevy? about
    300 lb. Damn near killed me without a jack - laying on my back. I just
    about killed the boss for that one!!!!! I only weighed a hundred
    pounds soaking wet with a bucket of fish back then.
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  • From Snag@Snag_one@msn.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Mon Mar 30 23:07:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 3/30/2026 10:22 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 18:32:12 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 3/30/2026 7:50 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 7:11 AM, Snag wrote:
    -a-a I'm trying to get the front CV axles out of my (2007 650) Arctic >>>> Cat ATV , and the left side is kickin' my ass .
    -a Now I'm pissed . Got the right side off , it was not fully inserted >>> and came right out . So I figured what the hell , grabbed the left side
    gave it a big 'ol yank and it jumped out like it'd been snake bit .
    -a So I figured since I'm awaiting other parts I'd check the tie rod
    ends and ball joints . Both are on order now too . Looks like I'll be
    busy next weekend ...

    I don't recall which vehicle it was. Might have been my 71 Caprice or
    maybe my 76 Volare wagon. Probably the Caprice. I remember rebuilding
    the transmission on that one.

    I didn't have enough room to use a transmission jack. I had to slide
    the transmission under the car, then crawl under on my back, lift the
    transmission up onto my chest, and slide the rest of the way into
    position. Then I could lift the tranny with my arms and try to free
    hand push it into position. I knew the basic concept. Line the notch
    up as best as I could lift, slide, nope, rotate a tiny bit one way or
    another and try again. I fought that SOB for an hour. My forearms were
    burning, and that darn thing just wouldn't go. Finally I gave up and
    went to see if my dad had any advice. Nope. That was the only way he
    knew how to do it. I just had to keep trying.

    I finally worked up the nerve to spend another hour under there
    screaming and crying if need be. Hopelessly I slid the tranny back onto
    my chest. Forearm lifted it into position, and it slide right in. In a
    panic with my forearms cramping I held it in place with one hand with as
    much force as I have ever used in my life while I scrambled around with
    my other hand blindly in the dirt feeling for the bolts.

    Yeah, I feel your pain.
    First trans I removed was a cast iron powerglyde - 61 chevy? about
    300 lb. Damn near killed me without a jack - laying on my back. I just
    about killed the boss for that one!!!!! I only weighed a hundred
    pounds soaking wet with a bucket of fish back then.


    1963 (I think , that was 50 years ago) Pontiac wagon , belonged to my
    then fiance . I think it was a hydramatic 350 , but it was heavy and I
    didn't have a jack .
    --
    Snag
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    when they stayed foreign ...
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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue Mar 31 06:53:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    1965 VW Beetle engine, same way. I had cut and installed a hatch under the rear window, over the transmission, which made removing the upper engine
    bolts and later the starter easier. With the engine loose a friend and I
    could lift and roll the car off and then back over it.

    He had a Land Rover which he got stuck on a trail I had driven in the VW.

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  • From Bob La Londe@none@none.com99 to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue Mar 31 12:31:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On 3/30/2026 8:22 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 18:32:12 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 3/30/2026 7:50 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 7:11 AM, Snag wrote:
    -a-a I'm trying to get the front CV axles out of my (2007 650) Arctic >>>> Cat ATV , and the left side is kickin' my ass .
    -a Now I'm pissed . Got the right side off , it was not fully inserted >>> and came right out . So I figured what the hell , grabbed the left side
    gave it a big 'ol yank and it jumped out like it'd been snake bit .
    -a So I figured since I'm awaiting other parts I'd check the tie rod
    ends and ball joints . Both are on order now too . Looks like I'll be
    busy next weekend ...

    I don't recall which vehicle it was. Might have been my 71 Caprice or
    maybe my 76 Volare wagon. Probably the Caprice. I remember rebuilding
    the transmission on that one.

    I didn't have enough room to use a transmission jack. I had to slide
    the transmission under the car, then crawl under on my back, lift the
    transmission up onto my chest, and slide the rest of the way into
    position. Then I could lift the tranny with my arms and try to free
    hand push it into position. I knew the basic concept. Line the notch
    up as best as I could lift, slide, nope, rotate a tiny bit one way or
    another and try again. I fought that SOB for an hour. My forearms were
    burning, and that darn thing just wouldn't go. Finally I gave up and
    went to see if my dad had any advice. Nope. That was the only way he
    knew how to do it. I just had to keep trying.

    I finally worked up the nerve to spend another hour under there
    screaming and crying if need be. Hopelessly I slid the tranny back onto
    my chest. Forearm lifted it into position, and it slide right in. In a
    panic with my forearms cramping I held it in place with one hand with as
    much force as I have ever used in my life while I scrambled around with
    my other hand blindly in the dirt feeling for the bolts.

    Yeah, I feel your pain.
    First trans I removed was a cast iron powerglyde - 61 chevy? about
    300 lb. Damn near killed me without a jack - laying on my back. I just
    about killed the boss for that one!!!!! I only weighed a hundred
    pounds soaking wet with a bucket of fish back then.

    I had a '65 F250 with a cast "steel" transmission. A local junkyard
    back then would transport stuff to Phoenix and back to a rebuilder for
    locals. When I brought it in to have it sent off to rebuild he said
    racers would pay a premium for it. It was enough he offered to trade me
    a brand new, not rebuilt, C6 for it. I figured I'd have to do some
    monekying around to fit a C6, and the trany I had would fit right back
    in where it came out, so I just had mine rebuilt. I didn't figure the
    zero dollars new transmission at the time would save enough to be worth
    the headache and maybe not get my truck back on the road right away. At
    the time it was my main service truck.

    I can say the combination with the 352 industrial engine was just right
    for a heavy work truck. With a heavy steel utility body full of tools,
    and a heavy steel frame box trailer full of stuff it ran about the same
    as it ran running empty. It wasn't fast, but it was the same not fast
    with as much weight as you could put on it as it was with none. It
    wasn't a dog though either.

    I don't recall it being any particular trouble to drop or put back in.
    Maybe I just had better tools and more room to work.
    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff
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  • From Clare Snyder@clare@snyder.on.ca to rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue Mar 31 21:25:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.crafts.metalworking

    On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 23:07:38 -0500, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

    On 3/30/2026 10:22 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 18:32:12 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
    wrote:

    On 3/30/2026 7:50 AM, Snag wrote:
    On 3/30/2026 7:11 AM, Snag wrote:
    aa I'm trying to get the front CV axles out of my (2007 650) Arctic >>>>> Cat ATV , and the left side is kickin' my ass .
    a Now I'm pissed . Got the right side off , it was not fully inserted >>>> and came right out . So I figured what the hell , grabbed the left side >>>> gave it a big 'ol yank and it jumped out like it'd been snake bit .
    a So I figured since I'm awaiting other parts I'd check the tie rod
    ends and ball joints . Both are on order now too . Looks like I'll be
    busy next weekend ...

    I don't recall which vehicle it was. Might have been my 71 Caprice or
    maybe my 76 Volare wagon. Probably the Caprice. I remember rebuilding
    the transmission on that one.

    I didn't have enough room to use a transmission jack. I had to slide
    the transmission under the car, then crawl under on my back, lift the
    transmission up onto my chest, and slide the rest of the way into
    position. Then I could lift the tranny with my arms and try to free
    hand push it into position. I knew the basic concept. Line the notch
    up as best as I could lift, slide, nope, rotate a tiny bit one way or
    another and try again. I fought that SOB for an hour. My forearms were >>> burning, and that darn thing just wouldn't go. Finally I gave up and
    went to see if my dad had any advice. Nope. That was the only way he
    knew how to do it. I just had to keep trying.

    I finally worked up the nerve to spend another hour under there
    screaming and crying if need be. Hopelessly I slid the tranny back onto >>> my chest. Forearm lifted it into position, and it slide right in. In a >>> panic with my forearms cramping I held it in place with one hand with as >>> much force as I have ever used in my life while I scrambled around with
    my other hand blindly in the dirt feeling for the bolts.

    Yeah, I feel your pain.
    First trans I removed was a cast iron powerglyde - 61 chevy? about
    300 lb. Damn near killed me without a jack - laying on my back. I just
    about killed the boss for that one!!!!! I only weighed a hundred
    pounds soaking wet with a bucket of fish back then.


    1963 (I think , that was 50 years ago) Pontiac wagon , belonged to my
    then fiance . I think it was a hydramatic 350 , but it was heavy and I >didn't have a jack .
    70 to 100 lbs less than the cast iron PG
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