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Heading out for a ride tomorrow morning with my front wheels protected
with Bucklos rim tape. I've been a little concerned when I saw the
tape. It is clear and very thin. Looks very much like scotch tape. the
wheels sat overnight with 90 PSI on them and they are still inflated,
so the tape seems to be working. I'll find ot tomorrow if it's not.

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On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:30:13 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

Heading out for a ride tomorrow morning with my front wheels protected
with Bucklos rim tape. I've been a little concerned when I saw the
tape. It is clear and very thin. Looks very much like scotch tape. the
wheels sat overnight with 90 PSI on them and they are still inflated,
so the tape seems to be working. I'll find ot tomorrow if it's not.

Somedays the rides are carefree, and some days they stress me. Today's
ride was the latter. It might have been the newer version of Schwalbe
Green Marathons, but I did two rides on them before and didn't have
problems. The higher presure (85 psi) didn't help and made the rough
surface of the asphalt come up through to me. I finally stopped and
drained off a little pressure to smoth things out.

At any rate, I did 25 miles with the very thin Bucklos tape on the
front wheels and the pressure didn't break through the tape into the
wheel's nipple pits. I'll dismount the tires to check further, and if
I see no problems, I'll put the Bucklos taped rear wheel on.

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On 9/29/2026 1:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:30:13 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

Heading out for a ride tomorrow morning with my front wheels protected
with Bucklos rim tape. I've been a little concerned when I saw the
tape. It is clear and very thin. Looks very much like scotch tape. the
wheels sat overnight with 90 PSI on them and they are still inflated,
so the tape seems to be working. I'll find ot tomorrow if it's not.

Somedays the rides are carefree, and some days they stress me. Today's
ride was the latter. It might have been the newer version of Schwalbe
Green Marathons, but I did two rides on them before and didn't have
problems. The higher presure (85 psi) didn't help and made the rough
surface of the asphalt come up through to me. I finally stopped and
drained off a little pressure to smoth things out.

At any rate, I did 25 miles with the very thin Bucklos tape on the
front wheels and the pressure didn't break through the tape into the
wheel's nipple pits. I'll dismount the tires to check further, and if
I see no problems, I'll put the Bucklos taped rear wheel on.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

Is it this product?

https://bucklos.co/collections/accessories/products/tubeless-rim-tape

Looks similar to Velocity USA rim liner:

https://vimeo.com/154880473

which is also 0.1mm, Velocity recommends two complete wraps
for low pressure tires and three layers for high pressures.
We've used it for 15 years with no issues at all except that
it's a bit pricey. We only use it on Velocity rims which
cannot be properly covered with standard 16mm Torelli or
Ritchey tapes (because the nipple wells are so nicely angled) .
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 14:00:00 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 9/29/2026 1:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2026 15:30:13 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

Heading out for a ride tomorrow morning with my front wheels protected
with Bucklos rim tape. I've been a little concerned when I saw the
tape. It is clear and very thin. Looks very much like scotch tape. the
wheels sat overnight with 90 PSI on them and they are still inflated,
so the tape seems to be working. I'll find ot tomorrow if it's not.

Somedays the rides are carefree, and some days they stress me. Today's
ride was the latter. It might have been the newer version of Schwalbe
Green Marathons, but I did two rides on them before and didn't have
problems. The higher presure (85 psi) didn't help and made the rough
surface of the asphalt come up through to me. I finally stopped and
drained off a little pressure to smoth things out.

At any rate, I did 25 miles with the very thin Bucklos tape on the
front wheels and the pressure didn't break through the tape into the
wheel's nipple pits. I'll dismount the tires to check further, and if
I see no problems, I'll put the Bucklos taped rear wheel on.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

Is it this product?

https://bucklos.co/collections/accessories/products/tubeless-rim-tape

Looks similar to Velocity USA rim liner:

https://vimeo.com/154880473

which is also 0.1mm, Velocity recommends two complete wraps
for low pressure tires and three layers for high pressures.
We've used it for 15 years with no issues at all except that
it's a bit pricey. We only use it on Velocity rims which
cannot be properly covered with standard 16mm Torelli or
Ritchey tapes (because the nipple wells are so nicely angled) .

That's the product. I didn't see anything about double wrapping, but
now I'll put on another layer. I don't know what's considered high
pressure. I'll be running 80 PSI. Two layers is still thinner than the
factory blue tape which measured 0.42mm thick by my digital caliper.
I'm using a tube, so leakage isn't an issue.

I used 19mm width which didn't interfere with the tire hooks like the
blue factory tape that meassured 20mm did. I sent a letter to Catrike
asking what the blue tape was, and haven't heard back. It looks a lot
like the PVC tape I first put on the 599 wheel. Same texture but a
different color.

Herrmans make a blue PVC continous loop for 406 wheels that looks
similar, so that might be the one. It's also 20mm wide, but I can't
find the thickness.

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On 9/29/2026 1:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

At any rate, I did 25 miles with the very thin Bucklos tape on the

No way I would ride those too harsh. I like the better more TPI the
better. I would easily recommend Conti GP 5000 for the rear and Schwalb Formula One for the two front tires. They ride very nice although Conti
makes a wire bead 20 inch tire that is probably much better too. I know
you are it seems worried about flats but I just cannot hack harsh tires.
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 15:05:24 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

On 9/29/2026 1:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

At any rate, I did 25 miles with the very thin Bucklos tape on the

No way I would ride those too harsh. I like the better more TPI the
better. I would easily recommend Conti GP 5000 for the rear and Schwalb >Formula One for the two front tires. They ride very nice although Conti >makes a wire bead 20 inch tire that is probably much better too. I know
you are it seems worried about flats but I just cannot hack harsh tires.

You might be confusing the Schwalbe Green Marathons I use with
Schwalbe Plus tires which are much stiffer. I've been using the 1.5
inch "Greens" at 80psi for a long time and have very good luck with
them. I did feel a lot of the rough asphalt coming through at 85psi on
the new tires, but it improved when I backed off to 80. The new
version Green Marathons do feel stiffer than the older ones, so I
might back off the pressure a little more. They are harder to mount
and dismount than the older ones, so maybe they've changed them a bit.
From what I can see the Schwalbe "Ones" are like the older Duranos
which I had trouble with.

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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2026 15:05:24 -0500, Mark J cleary
<mcleary08@comcast.net> wrote:

On 9/29/2026 1:17 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

At any rate, I did 25 miles with the very thin Bucklos tape on the

No way I would ride those too harsh. I like the better more TPI the
better. I would easily recommend Conti GP 5000 for the rear and Schwalb
Formula One for the two front tires. They ride very nice although Conti
makes a wire bead 20 inch tire that is probably much better too. I know
you are it seems worried about flats but I just cannot hack harsh tires.

You might be confusing the Schwalbe Green Marathons I use with
Schwalbe Plus tires which are much stiffer. I've been using the 1.5
inch "Greens" at 80psi for a long time and have very good luck with
them. I did feel a lot of the rough asphalt coming through at 85psi on
the new tires, but it improved when I backed off to 80. The new
version Green Marathons do feel stiffer than the older ones, so I
might back off the pressure a little more. They are harder to mount
and dismount than the older ones, so maybe they've changed them a bit.

The Green Marathons seem to have merged the Marathon Green guard older
model plus the Energiser plus Tour, they have been removing/adjusting the
tyres in the Touring section.

<https://www.schwalbe.com/en/tire-successor/?srsltid=AU7gw4W52HQAltdlFG3q6FqnGFhhVWyN0CFMnE8fdxTxoP2VpZg4aiw6#race>

The Green Marathons still has stiff sidewalls if not quite as stiff as the Marathon Plus but still very much in that ball park, itrCOs only stuff like
the Big Apples in the touring line up that donrCOt have stiff sidewalls and hence are lighter and give a more plus ride, at the expense of max loads
and sidewall durability, both are fairly basic tyres ie wire beads and so
on, so sidewalls are compromise canrCOt do everything, have to choose what
you want.

IrCOm not hauling heavy loads ie not a cargo bike etc, so IrCOll take the risk of sidewall damage for better ride quality as thatrCOs more important for my use.

Related to that, with stiff sidewalls reducing pressure will not have much
as effect as with tyres with more supple sidewalls again part of the compromise, for example if I ran lighter weight XC MTB tyres would give a
more supple ride, but IrCOd risk tyre damage, and potentially a long walk
back to the car! Plus they tend to be focused on speed grip at least wet weather grip isnrCOt as important.

From what I can see the Schwalbe "Ones" are like the older Duranos
which I had trouble with.

The Duranos where a Gatorskin/4seasons/Armadillos competitor the One range
has replaced that and more, I run the One Plus ie roadie version of the Marathon Plus, it seems broadly similar to the Armadillos in ride feel and grip, even if heavier and with a substantial puncture protection layer.

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Soloman

Roger Merriman

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