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  • Trends in assisted bicycle legislation

    From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Sep 21 14:09:50 2026
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    https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2026/09/17/ny-senate-bill-would-ban-sale-e-motos-state
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    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Sep 21 21:02:59 2026
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    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2026/09/17/ny-senate-bill-would-ban-sale-e-motos-state


    I suspect be rather uphill battle, and requires taking it to the online sellers, in uk they exist though IrCOm sure the riders know they arenrCOt legal they do seem to mostly try not to advertise themselves to the police.

    I believe NewYork City is already trying to prevent online marketplaces
    from essentially dumping the problem on the authorities, but that seems to
    be the really the only solution, your not going to have enough police plus testing that bikes are or not legal, particularly with USA fairly complex number of categories, thatrCOs quite a ask.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Ted Heise@theise@panix.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Sep 22 13:41:35 2026
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    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 14:09:50 -0500,
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2026/09/17/ny-senate-bill-would-ban-sale-e-motos-state

    I'm not convinced that banning them is the answer. Rather, I
    think they should require licensing of the vehicles and the
    riders. This would be to motorcycles as electric cars are to gas
    powered cars.
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    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> Gretna, NE, USA
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  • From NFN Smith@worldoff9908@gmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Sep 22 07:58:09 2026
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    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 14:09:50 -0500,
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2026/09/17/ny-senate-bill-would-ban-sale-e-motos-state

    I'm not convinced that banning them is the answer. Rather, I
    think they should require licensing of the vehicles and the
    riders. This would be to motorcycles as electric cars are to gas
    powered cars.


    I pretty much agree. An e-bike is a powered vehicle, and the difference
    of whether the source of the power is an internal combustion engine or a battery is immaterial. The complication is for bikes that have pedals,
    but the reality is that few riders do much with the pedals, and do the majority of their riding under power.

    But I think it useful that not only is it necessary to license the
    vehicle, but the rider, so that riders are certified to be properly
    trained to operate a powered vehicle.

    Smith
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Sep 22 15:03:50 2026
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    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 14:09:50 -0500,
    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2026/09/17/ny-senate-bill-would-ban-sale-e-motos-state

    I'm not convinced that banning them is the answer. Rather, I
    think they should require licensing of the vehicles and the
    riders. This would be to motorcycles as electric cars are to gas
    powered cars.


    That is the case in UK in theory at least, in practice yourCOll not find
    anyone who will insure them.

    And they are the reasons transport bans on e things as they have cheap batteries without the safety features. Ie risk of fires which in enclosed spacesrCa

    There popularity in many ways is that they are moped without the regulation
    and cost.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Rolf Mantel@news@hartig-mantel.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Sep 22 18:26:04 2026
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    Am 22.09.2026 um 16:58 schrieb NFN Smith:
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 14:09:50 -0500,
    -a-a AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

    -a https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2026/09/17/ny-senate-
    bill-would-ban-sale-e-motos-state

    I'm not convinced that banning them is the answer.-a Rather, I
    think they should require licensing of the vehicles and the
    riders.-a This would be to motorcycles as electric cars are to gas
    powered cars.


    I pretty much agree. An e-bike is a powered vehicle, and the difference
    of whether the source of the power is an internal combustion engine or a battery is immaterial.-a The complication is for bikes that have pedals,
    but the reality is that few riders do much with the pedals, and do the majority of their riding under power.

    this complication most likley was solved in the 1950's for
    'motor-assisted bicycles' (maybe they never got popular in USA because
    car were cheaper there).

    The challenge is that come people managed to convince the legislative
    bodies that e#bikes are inherently safer and so need less expensive ways
    of handling (insurance, licensing, usage of bike lanes).

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  • From NFN Smith@worldoff9908@gmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Sep 22 11:20:20 2026
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    Roger Merriman wrote:
    There popularity in many ways is that they are moped without the regulation and cost.

    Or merely advanced scooters, which are typically not regulated (at least
    in the US).

    Smith
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