Rode the Suncoast bike trail south to State Highway 54 this morning
after changing out my three new wheels with questionable rim tape
yesterday morning. Got 22 miles in before the morning thunderstorms
hit as I drove home.
The Florida DOT has started building the bike pedestrian overpass over
SH54 and has built an extensive freshly paved detour for the Suncoast
Trail leading up to the it's regular crossing point. My recent rides
have been north on the trail to State Highway 52 where the DOT is
building a bike pedestrian overpass over SH52 with the same kind of
detours.
I think the overpasses are a waste of money, but nobody asked me. I
never had any problems crossing either highway, but now, with the
traffic turn lanes partially blocked making highway traffic
frustrated, I choose not to venture out into the what used to be six
lanes plus turning lanes and is now a lot of horn hanks.
Ah well, when they're done there will be some new ascents and descents
on my otherwise flat as a pancake rides.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Rode the Suncoast bike trail south to State Highway 54 this morning
after changing out my three new wheels with questionable rim tape
yesterday morning. Got 22 miles in before the morning thunderstorms
hit as I drove home.
The Florida DOT has started building the bike pedestrian overpass over
SH54 and has built an extensive freshly paved detour for the Suncoast
Trail leading up to the it's regular crossing point. My recent rides
have been north on the trail to State Highway 52 where the DOT is
building a bike pedestrian overpass over SH52 with the same kind of detours.
I think the overpasses are a waste of money, but nobody asked me. I
never had any problems crossing either highway, but now, with the
traffic turn lanes partially blocked making highway traffic
frustrated, I choose not to venture out into the what used to be six
lanes plus turning lanes and is now a lot of horn hanks.
Ah well, when they're done there will be some new ascents and descents
on my otherwise flat as a pancake rides.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
These multi lane suburban roads, do apparently have higher rates, probably more so for pedestrians, who are slower and all that.Well, here the speeds on any road and especially on four lane roads is rediculous. Locally I have to cross a 3 lane one way road and if you can hear a car you dare not cross. The left lane bears off to the left and hits a stop sign. While traffic from the left is rare it is usually blind to other road users and very fast. Traffic from the right is visible for a long distance but they are travelling 80 mph in a 30 mph zone.so it is stressful crossing and getting into the bike lare to turn left. Really, I can do without stress since rather than 80 someone could be doing 100 and that is something you cannot judge on a bicycle.As everywhere in California, the police or highway patrol are only ticketing speeders during rush hour and then only the most outrageous offenders. Imagine a Jeep or Land Rover both of which are top heavy weaving from lane to lane at 80. Capsizing isn't that rare. Particularly up in the Santa Cruz highway where Liebermann lives. On one recent trip to Santa Cruz, There were 3 jeeps upside down in the fast lane and one on the way back. And THIS is a safe road!
Don?t have huge numbers in London though my old Cycleway is parallel to
one, thing I notice is get a lot of cars just blowing through pedestrians lights signals.
And generally such roads divide places, and all that.
Well, here the speeds on any road and especially on four lane roads is rediculous. Locally I have to cross a 3 lane one way road and if you can hear a car you dare not cross. The left lane bears off to the left and hits a stop sign. While traffic from the left is rare it is usually blind to other road users and very fast. Traffic from the right is visible for a long distance but they are travelling 80 mph in a 30 mph zone.so it is stressful crossing and getting into the bike lare to turn left. Really, I can do without stress since rather than 80 someone could be doing 100 and that is something you cannot judge on a bicycle.As everywhere in California, the police or highway patrol are only ticketing speeders during rush hour and then only the most outrageous offenders. Imagine a Jeep or Land Rover both of which are top heavy weaving from lane to lane at 80. Capsizing isn't that rare. Particularly up in the Santa Cruz highway where Liebermann lives. On one recent trip to Santa Cruz,
There were 3 jeeps upside down in the fast lane and one on the way back. And THIS is a safe road!
On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 19:06:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Well, here the speeds on any road and especially on four lane roads is rediculous. Locally I have to cross a 3 lane one way road and if you can hear a car you dare not cross. The left lane bears off to the left and hits a stop sign. While traffic from the left is rare it is usually blind to other road users and very fast. Traffic from the right is visible for a long distance but they are travelling 80 mph in a 30 mph zone.so it is stressful crossing and getting into the bike lare to turn left. Really, I can do without stress since rather than 80 someone could be doing 100 and that is something you cannot judge on a bicycle.As everywhere in California, the police or highway patrol are only ticketing speeders during rush hour and then only the most outrageous offenders. Imagine a Jeep or Land Rover both of which are top heavy weaving from lane to lane at 80. Capsizing isn't that rare. Particularly up in the Santa Cruz highway where Liebermann lives. On one recent trip to Santa Cruz,
Looking for more attention? Gladly, I need a short rest from hauling firewood up my hill.
I didn't know that you ride your bicycle in Santa Cruz county?
Caltrans recently reduced the speed limit by 5 mph and changed all the
sign along much of Hwy 9. Allegedly, this will improve highway
safety. <https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-5/d5-news/d5-news-2-5-2026-3>
Incidentally, unless it involves an amphibious vehicle, it's called a "vehicle rollover":
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_rollover>
"The Truth about Jeep Rollovers" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETwItnVveJ4> (22:51)
There were 3 jeeps upside down in the fast lane and one on the way back. And THIS is a safe road!
Three Jeeps speeding on Hwy 9 or 17? I've never seen such a parade of
Jeeps. It's amazing how the drivers could all rollover in the same
lane at the same time.
"Statewide Integrated Traffic Records System" <https://www.chp.ca.gov/programs-services/services-information/switrs-statewide-integrated-traffic-records-system/>
<https://tims.berkeley.edu/tools/safetyheatmap/>
Incidentally, I've been in a vehicle going 80 mph. Automobiles handle
very differently above about 65 mph. For example, steering became
very sensitive and tire balancing became critical. Driving over a
pebble felt like I was going over a boulder. No way are three random
Jeep drivers going to survive a state highway at 80 mph without lots
of training.
On 9/14/2026 5:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 19:06:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Well, here the speeds on any road and especially on four lane roads is
rediculous. Locally I have to cross a 3 lane one way road and if you
can hear a car you dare not cross. The left lane bears off to the left
and hits a stop sign. While traffic from the left is rare it is usually
blind to other road users and very fast. Traffic from the right is
visible for a long distance but they are travelling 80 mph in a 30 mph
zone.so it is stressful crossing and getting into the bike lare to turn
left. Really, I can do without stress since rather than 80 someone
could be doing 100 and that is something you cannot judge on a
bicycle.As everywhere in California, the police or highway patrol are
only ticketing speeders during rush hour and then only the most
outrageous offenders. Imagine a Jeep or Land Rover both of which are
top heavy weaving from lane to lane at 80. Capsizing isn't that rare.
Particularly up in the Santa Cruz highway where Liebermann lives. On
one recent trip to Santa Cruz,
Looking for more attention? Gladly, I need a short rest from hauling
firewood up my hill.
I didn't know that you ride your bicycle in Santa Cruz county?
Caltrans recently reduced the speed limit by 5 mph and changed all the
sign along much of Hwy 9. Allegedly, this will improve highway
safety.
<https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-5/d5-news/d5-news-2-5-2026-3> >>
Incidentally, unless it involves an amphibious vehicle, it's called a
"vehicle rollover":
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_rollover>
"The Truth about Jeep Rollovers"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETwItnVveJ4> (22:51)
There were 3 jeeps upside down in the fast lane and one on the way
back. And THIS is a safe road!
Three Jeeps speeding on Hwy 9 or 17? I've never seen such a parade of
Jeeps. It's amazing how the drivers could all rollover in the same
lane at the same time.
"Statewide Integrated Traffic Records System"
<https://www.chp.ca.gov/programs-services/services-information/switrs-statewide-integrated-traffic-records-system/>
<https://tims.berkeley.edu/tools/safetyheatmap/>
Incidentally, I've been in a vehicle going 80 mph. Automobiles handle
very differently above about 65 mph. For example, steering became
very sensitive and tire balancing became critical. Driving over a
pebble felt like I was going over a boulder. No way are three random
Jeep drivers going to survive a state highway at 80 mph without lots
of training.
If one would but peruse overnight news in a few major
cities, photos will show darn near every make and model
upside down.
I saw a flipped newish Ford pickup, inverted next to an
offramp and being extracted by a tow truck cable, while
running errands this morning.
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