• Insect collisions....

    From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jul 20 14:17:47 2026
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    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid" insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jul 20 09:43:41 2026
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    On 7/20/2026 9:17 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid" insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    I have not. It's been dry here this summer, so much so that
    I regularly sit outside reading in the late evenings with no
    bites.

    OTOH this morning I picked up a small insect in my eye while
    riding but cleared it with an eye cup easily. Can't recall
    the last time I had an insect impact of any sort while riding.
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    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jul 20 15:34:09 2026
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    AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
    On 7/20/2026 9:17 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid"
    insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    I have not. It's been dry here this summer, so much so that
    I regularly sit outside reading in the late evenings with no
    bites.

    OTOH this morning I picked up a small insect in my eye while
    riding but cleared it with an eye cup easily. Can't recall
    the last time I had an insect impact of any sort while riding.

    Likewise car windscreens and stuff like the ant swarms that used to be spectacular are diminished.

    I occasionally if IrCOm commuting in the summer along the river at dusk, can get bugs but again itrCOs relatively minimal.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jul 20 12:08:08 2026
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    On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:17:47 -0000 (UTC), bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid" >insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

    I haven't noticed any change. My biggest insect concern is the fire
    ants.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jul 21 01:00:22 2026
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    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:17:47 -0000 (UTC), bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid" >>insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

    I haven't noticed any change. My biggest insect concern is the fire
    ants.

    I'm aware fire ants are trouble, but can they get aboard a bicycle
    that's underway? Thankfully fire ants haven't reached the Sacramento
    Valley (yet!).

    Thanks to all who've replied, I guess my observations are either
    erroneous or purely local.

    bob prohaska

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jul 21 05:53:41 2026
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    On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 01:00:22 -0000 (UTC), bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:17:47 -0000 (UTC), bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid" >>>insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska

    I haven't noticed any change. My biggest insect concern is the fire
    ants.

    I'm aware fire ants are trouble, but can they get aboard a bicycle
    that's underway? Thankfully fire ants haven't reached the Sacramento
    Valley (yet!).

    Thanks to all who've replied, I guess my observations are either
    erroneous or purely local.

    bob prohaska


    Fire ants are not going to get you unless you stop and put your foot
    down near where they are. The problem is that they seem to be
    everywhere along the trails where I ride.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jul 21 06:12:05 2026
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    On 7/20/2026 10:17 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid" insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    I haven't noticed an increase, but something 'struck' me the other day
    while I was riding in NH where there is no helmet law: I've been
    riding/racing for over 40 years and have had my share of bug strikes, sometimes at speed on downhills. For this reason I _always_ wear glasses
    while riding except for the occasional race in the rain where splatter
    makes it impossible to see.

    So, as I was driving home the other day a motorcycle blew by me on the
    highway doing well over the 70 MPH I was traveling - the rider with no
    helmet or face protection. At that speed there's no way in hell he would
    see a large flying insect heading towards him, or worse yet a small rock kicked up by traffic or dropped off the back of a gravel truck.

    that'll leave a mark....
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jul 21 08:05:40 2026
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    On 7/21/2026 5:12 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 7/20/2026 10:17 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects
    over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland
    since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me)
    rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that
    bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain
    extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they
    just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all
    during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic
    honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial
    agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that
    "neonicotinoid"
    insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause
    disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down,
    so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the
    number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,

    bob prohaska


    I haven't noticed an increase, but something 'struck' me the
    other day while I was riding in NH where there is no helmet
    law: I've been riding/racing for over 40 years and have had
    my share of bug strikes, sometimes at speed on downhills.
    For this reason I _always_ wear glasses while riding except
    for the occasional race in the rain where splatter makes it
    impossible to see.

    So, as I was driving home the other day a motorcycle blew by
    me on the highway doing well over the 70 MPH I was traveling
    - the rider with no helmet or face protection. At that speed
    there's no way in hell he would see a large flying insect
    heading towards him, or worse yet a small rock kicked up by
    traffic or dropped off the back of a gravel truck.

    that'll leave a mark....

    +1

    For motorcyclists, a june bug in the eye at speed is
    potentially fatal.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364398802_Motorcycle-Associated_Ocular_Injuries_A_Narrative_Review

    https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/crash-west-davis-corridor/
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jul 21 19:05:49 2026
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    On Mon Jul 20 14:17:47 2026 bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid" insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,
    Bob, the environmntal movement has caused a reduction in crop spraying and/or with pesticides with greatly reduced effectiveness. They have also blamed Roundup for causing cancer for which there isn't a shred of evidence leading to greatly diluted RoundUp spraying which caused plants to become immune to the effects of herbicides like RoundUp.
    The result of this is greatly increased single crop pests in farming country. This morning I was hit hard in the glasses by either a honey bee (according to the conservationists honey bees should have become exinct 5 years ago) or perhaps a horse fly and I was glad to be wearing glasses.
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jul 21 14:34:09 2026
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    On 7/21/2026 2:05 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Mon Jul 20 14:17:47 2026 bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
    Has anybody noticed an increase in collisions with insects over
    the past few years? Much of my riding has been in farmland since
    2005, and initially it seemed I hit bugs (or bugs hit me) rather
    rarely, a few times at most per year. Now it seems that bouncing
    bugs occur once or twice on every ride. Stings remain extremely
    rare, the last one was several years ago. Usually they just bounce
    off, or sort themselves out and fly away.

    Obviously, it's seasonal, with essentially no bugs at all during
    fall and winter. Most of the bugs appear to be domestic honeybees,
    used in large but not increasing numbers for industrial agriculture.

    In the past there's been some worry in ag circles that "neonicotinoid"
    insecticides, though not directly lethal to bees, cause disorientation.

    Has anybody else noticed this? My riding is slowing down, so it isn't
    a speed (at least not mine!) effect. I don't think the number of bees
    or their hive placement has changed either.

    Thanks for reading,




    Bob, the environmntal movement has caused a reduction in crop spraying and/or with pesticides with greatly reduced effectiveness. They have also blamed Roundup for causing cancer for which there isn't a shred of evidence leading to greatly diluted RoundUp spraying which caused plants to become immune to the effects of herbicides like RoundUp.

    The result of this is greatly increased single crop pests in farming country.

    This morning I was hit hard in the glasses by either a honey bee (according to the conservationists honey bees should have become exinct 5 years ago) or perhaps a horse fly and I was glad to be wearing glasses.

    You're right that glyphosphate is harmless, but juries
    randomly invent things like judgements. It's unrelated to
    insect populations.

    You're right that insecticide regulation has increased costs
    for farm operations. Unclear whether there's any net effect
    on total insects overall.

    But the insect population varies more by bird and bat
    populations than human agriculture protection. And yes,
    people dispute causes and cures and significance for that as
    well.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From bp@bp@www.zefox.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jul 21 22:55:09 2026
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    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    I haven't noticed an increase, but something 'struck' me the other day
    while I was riding in NH where there is no helmet law: I've been riding/racing for over 40 years and have had my share of bug strikes, sometimes at speed on downhills. For this reason I _always_ wear glasses while riding except for the occasional race in the rain where splatter
    makes it impossible to see.

    So, as I was driving home the other day a motorcycle blew by me on the highway doing well over the 70 MPH I was traveling - the rider with no helmet or face protection. At that speed there's no way in hell he would
    see a large flying insect heading towards him, or worse yet a small rock kicked up by traffic or dropped off the back of a gravel truck.

    that'll leave a mark....

    Likely a new rider. Past about 50 mph bugs, rocks and raindrops
    are largely indistinguishable based on the sounds they make
    hitting a helmet. Not necessarily disastrous, but unpleasant.

    bob prohaska


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