• mechanical

    From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jun 19 16:49:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    <https://www.bikeradar.com/features/opinion/bring-back-mechanical-shimano-ultegra?>

    Kinda interesting that there seems to be a market for higher end MTB
    mechanical groupsets, at least Shimano believes so, but not Road.

    Maybe impact and water ingress?

    Roger Merriman


    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun Jun 21 19:01:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Fri Jun 19 16:49:01 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/features/opinion/bring-back-mechanical-shimano-ultegra?>

    Kinda interesting that there seems to be a market for higher end MTB mechanical groupsets, at least Shimano believes so, but not Road.

    Maybe impact and water ingress?
    I've been ridingt the Ultegra electronic for a couple of months now and while the rear shifting is quite reliable the front requires continuous adjustment. I really prefer mechanical and have largely changed over to LTWoo. It has the same cable pull ratio as Shimano so long arm Shimano rear derailleurs can be used for loe gear rtios. Manual shifting is king.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jun 22 15:52:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri Jun 19 16:49:01 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/features/opinion/bring-back-mechanical-shimano-ultegra?>

    Kinda interesting that there seems to be a market for higher end MTB
    mechanical groupsets, at least Shimano believes so, but not Road.

    Maybe impact and water ingress?




    I've been ridingt the Ultegra electronic for a couple of months now and
    while the rear shifting is quite reliable the front requires continuous adjustment. I really prefer mechanical and have largely changed over to LTWoo. It has the same cable pull ratio as Shimano so long arm Shimano
    rear derailleurs can be used for loe gear rtios. Manual shifting is king.

    No system if set up right should require continuous adjustment, the
    downside for Electronic seem to be the black box nature of it, and the cost
    of it, they are more bulky components, my Gravel bike if I was running Electronic I would be running into clearance problems with the front mech
    as they are significantly larger than the mechanical mech.

    I wanted to reuse the groupset so wasnrCOt particularly a option I
    considered, number of my cycling mates have a failures let alone the whole
    off road rear mechrCOs are kinda disposable parts ie they donrCOt tend to survive rock strikes!

    Roger Merriman

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jun 25 19:18:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Mon Jun 22 15:52:20 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri Jun 19 16:49:01 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/features/opinion/bring-back-mechanical-shimano-ultegra?>

    Kinda interesting that there seems to be a market for higher end MTB
    mechanical groupsets, at least Shimano believes so, but not Road.

    Maybe impact and water ingress?




    I've been ridingt the Ultegra electronic for a couple of months now and while the rear shifting is quite reliable the front requires continuous adjustment. I really prefer mechanical and have largely changed over to LTWoo. It has the same cable pull ratio as Shimano so long arm Shimano
    rear derailleurs can be used for loe gear rtios. Manual shifting is king.

    No system if set up right should require continuous adjustment, the
    downside for Electronic seem to be the black box nature of it, and the cost of it, they are more bulky components, my Gravel bike if I was running Electronic I would be running into clearance problems with the front mech
    as they are significantly larger than the mechanical mech.

    I wanted to reuse the groupset so wasn?t particularly a option I
    considered, number of my cycling mates have a failures let alone the whole off road rear mech?s are kinda disposable parts ie they don?t tend to
    survive rock strikes!
    I pumped up the gatorskiins on the DeRosa Merak and took it out today. Unfortunately I didn't have a Gsrmin moumt on the bike and I put it in my back pocket and it got turned off so I didn't record the 30 miles. Since I was unable to ride on Tuesday it felt like I was really fast. But without the Garmin it may just have felt that way. Also the poswe meter pedals are on the Di2 Ridley,. But the merchanical 12 speed felt azbout as good as you could get.And the adcjustment was off a hair so that when you shifted it would take perhaps 5 seconds to get in the correct gear.
    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jun 25 19:58:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon Jun 22 15:52:20 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Fri Jun 19 16:49:01 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    <https://www.bikeradar.com/features/opinion/bring-back-mechanical-shimano-ultegra?>

    Kinda interesting that there seems to be a market for higher end MTB
    mechanical groupsets, at least Shimano believes so, but not Road.

    Maybe impact and water ingress?




    I've been ridingt the Ultegra electronic for a couple of months now and
    while the rear shifting is quite reliable the front requires continuous
    adjustment. I really prefer mechanical and have largely changed over to
    LTWoo. It has the same cable pull ratio as Shimano so long arm Shimano
    rear derailleurs can be used for loe gear rtios. Manual shifting is king. >>>
    No system if set up right should require continuous adjustment, the
    downside for Electronic seem to be the black box nature of it, and the cost >> of it, they are more bulky components, my Gravel bike if I was running
    Electronic I would be running into clearance problems with the front mech
    as they are significantly larger than the mechanical mech.

    I wanted to reuse the groupset so wasn?t particularly a option I
    considered, number of my cycling mates have a failures let alone the whole >> off road rear mech?s are kinda disposable parts ie they don?t tend to
    survive rock strikes!




    I pumped up the gatorskiins on the DeRosa Merak and took it out today. Unfortunately I didn't have a Gsrmin moumt on the bike and I put it in my back pocket and it got turned off so I didn't record the 30 miles. Since
    I was unable to ride on Tuesday it felt like I was really fast. But
    without the Garmin it may just have felt that way. Also the poswe meter pedals are on the Di2 Ridley,. But the merchanical 12 speed felt azbout
    as good as you could get.And the adcjustment was off a hair so that when
    you shifted it would take perhaps 5 seconds to get in the correct gear.

    Just lock the screen on the Garmin or use a stem mount I seem to have
    millions as IrCOve bought 4 units over the years so, have multiple packs.

    IrCOd not call a 5 second shift off a hair but way off adjustment, even old school roadie with shifts quickly with Sora which is definitely budget
    tech, or Cues on the commuter which due to the difference between
    Hyperguide and Linkguide is slighty slower and more agricultural if one is really paying attention.

    Even in mid winter with an entire bog in the rear mech or so much mud you canrCOt see the front mech, Deore and GRX shift at worse maybe 1s? And that would be the front if encased in said bog!

    Roger Merriman

    --- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2