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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jun 4 21:28:40 2026
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    When I left this morning after a good nights sleep, I had no trouble at all holding my heart rate down to 110 or less. I arrived at the coffee shop, had a cup of coffee and a muffin and when I left I didn't seem to be riding any faster but my heart rate was averaging 118.
    Has anyone else noticed a 10 beet higher heart rate caused by coffee? Now in the morning I do drink coffee before I leave on the ride but perhaps Starbucks has a higher cafeine content than my home coffee?
    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while the wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back was largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but the average was 10 beats higher on the way back.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jun 4 21:11:41 2026
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    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:28:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    When I left this morning after a good nights sleep, I had no trouble at all holding my heart rate down to 110 or less. I arrived at the coffee shop, had a cup of coffee and a muffin and when I left I didn't seem to be riding any faster but my heart rate was averaging 118.

    Has anyone else noticed a 10 beet higher heart rate caused by coffee? Now in the morning I do drink coffee before I leave on the ride but perhaps Starbucks has a higher cafeine content than my home coffee?

    This might help:

    "The Complete Guide to Starbucks Caffeine" <https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-caffeine>

    I gave up coffee about 5 years ago and switched to herbal tea (no
    caffeine) and Swiss Miss Dark Chocolate, which claims to be 99.9%
    caffeine free (about 5 mg per 8 oz cup).

    As for heart rate, I have no heart. It's been bypassed.

    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while the wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back was largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but the average was 10 beats higher on the way back.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jun 5 06:18:27 2026
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    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:28:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    When I left this morning after a good nights sleep, I had no trouble at
    all holding my heart rate down to 110 or less. I arrived at the coffee
    shop, had a cup of coffee and a muffin and when I left I didn't seem to
    be riding any faster but my heart rate was averaging 118.

    Has anyone else noticed a 10 beet higher heart rate caused by coffee?
    Now in the morning I do drink coffee before I leave on the ride but
    perhaps Starbucks has a higher cafeine content than my home coffee?

    This might help:

    "The Complete Guide to Starbucks Caffeine" <https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-caffeine>

    I gave up coffee about 5 years ago and switched to herbal tea (no
    caffeine) and Swiss Miss Dark Chocolate, which claims to be 99.9%
    caffeine free (about 5 mg per 8 oz cup).

    I donrCOt get any hit etc from caffeine eventually it will make me pee, but thatrCOs more likely with stuff like coke etc than coffee.

    Are two shots of espresso in lot of these mainstream brands, in my
    experience do get better coffee in the independent places, I have a local
    cafe thatrCOs very walkable despite the staff being so young 18/25 they make much better coffee!

    As for heart rate, I have no heart. It's been bypassed.

    IrCOve not to be honest checked my heart rate before or after, though itrCOs generally in the 60 mark, when i do check my Blood Pressure as though itrCOs low there is high blood pressure in the family, so worth checking now and
    then.

    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while the
    wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back was
    largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but the
    average was 10 beats higher on the way back.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jun 5 05:45:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 6/5/2026 12:11 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:28:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    When I left this morning after a good nights sleep, I had no trouble at all holding my heart rate down to 110 or less. I arrived at the coffee shop, had a cup of coffee and a muffin and when I left I didn't seem to be riding any faster but my heart rate was averaging 118.

    Has anyone else noticed a 10 beet higher heart rate caused by coffee? Now in the morning I do drink coffee before I leave on the ride but perhaps Starbucks has a higher cafeine content than my home coffee?

    This might help:

    "The Complete Guide to Starbucks Caffeine" <https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-caffeine>

    I gave up coffee about 5 years ago and switched to herbal tea (no
    caffeine) and Swiss Miss Dark Chocolate, which claims to be 99.9%
    caffeine free (about 5 mg per 8 oz cup).

    As for heart rate, I have no heart. It's been bypassed.

    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while the wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back was largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but the average was 10 beats higher on the way back.

    I did my first outdoor local TT in almost two years on wednesday

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18776541749/analysis

    I had a hell of a time getting my HR down after the opening climb, but
    then managed to keep it below my AT for the rest of the ride.
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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jun 5 10:17:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 6/5/2026 4:45 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 6/5/2026 12:11 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:28:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    When I left this morning after a good nights sleep, I had no trouble
    at all holding my heart rate down to 110 or less. I arrived at the
    coffee shop, had a cup of coffee and a muffin and when I left I
    didn't seem to be riding any faster but my heart rate was averaging 118. >>>
    Has anyone else noticed a 10 beet higher heart rate caused by coffee?
    Now in the morning I do drink coffee before I leave on the ride but
    perhaps Starbucks has a higher cafeine content than my home coffee?

    This might help:

    "The Complete Guide to Starbucks Caffeine"
    <https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-
    caffeine>

    I gave up coffee about 5 years ago and switched to herbal tea (no
    caffeine) and Swiss Miss Dark Chocolate, which claims to be 99.9%
    caffeine free (about 5 mg per 8 oz cup).

    As for heart rate, I have no heart.-a It's been bypassed.

    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while
    the wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back
    was largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but
    the average was 10 beats higher on the way back.

    I did my first outdoor local TT in almost two years on wednesday

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18776541749/analysis

    I had a hell of a time getting my HR down after the opening climb, but
    then managed to keep it below my AT for the rest of the ride.
    Zen
    That is a high HR. I rode inside today 32 miles average HR of 104 and
    max at 145. When I am on the Catride my HR is between 92-101 low for
    sure. My research suggest that this is due to the fact that in recumbent position the heart is at the level of the legs and does not need the
    added spike to get blood back up the heart like when riding on
    recumbent. I take high dose of blood pressure meds to so that blunts
    response. I check my BP when I get up in morning and after riding and
    then later in day depending. My bottoms out low about 2 hours after
    riding really too low at 90/58 but when I get up in morning it is around 130/85 which is expect cortisol spike getting up.
    --
    Deacon Mark
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Fri Jun 5 18:12:29 2026
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    On Fri Jun 5 06:18:27 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    I?ve not to be honest checked my heart rate before or after, though it?s generally in the 60 mark, when i do check my Blood Pressure as though it?s low there is high blood pressure in the family, so worth checking now and then.

    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while the >> wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back was
    largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but the
    average was 10 beats higher on the way back.
    My rest blood pressure is perfectly normal. Only if I liuft my heart rate above max is the blood pressure increased and that is occurringv less and less as my yearly mileage goes up
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jun 6 07:11:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 6/5/2026 11:17 AM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 6/5/2026 4:45 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 6/5/2026 12:11 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:28:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    When I left this morning after a good nights sleep, I had no trouble
    at all holding my heart rate down to 110 or less. I arrived at the
    coffee shop, had a cup of coffee and a muffin and when I left I
    didn't seem to be riding any faster but my heart rate was averaging
    118.

    Has anyone else noticed a 10 beet higher heart rate caused by
    coffee? Now in the morning I do drink coffee before I leave on the
    ride but perhaps Starbucks has a higher cafeine content than my home
    coffee?

    This might help:

    "The Complete Guide to Starbucks Caffeine"
    <https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-
    caffeine>

    I gave up coffee about 5 years ago and switched to herbal tea (no
    caffeine) and Swiss Miss Dark Chocolate, which claims to be 99.9%
    caffeine free (about 5 mg per 8 oz cup).

    As for heart rate, I have no heart.-a It's been bypassed.

    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while
    the wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back
    was largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but
    the average was 10 beats higher on the way back.

    I did my first outdoor local TT in almost two years on wednesday

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18776541749/analysis

    I had a hell of a time getting my HR down after the opening climb, but
    then managed to keep it below my AT for the rest of the ride.
    Zen
    That is a high HR. I rode inside today 32 miles average HR of 104 and
    max at 145. When I am on the Catride my HR is between 92-101 low for
    sure. My research suggest that this is due to the fact that in recumbent position the heart is at the level of the legs and does not need the
    added spike to get blood back up the heart like when riding on
    recumbent. I take high dose of blood pressure meds to so that blunts response. I check my BP when I get up in morning and after riding and
    then later in day depending. My bottoms out low about 2 hours after
    riding really too low at 90/58 but when I get up in morning it is around 130/85 which is expect cortisol spike getting up.

    Yes, I have a high heart rate, and always have. I've written about that
    in this forum before. I would regularly go over 200 when I was well into
    my 40s, and up until my late 50s my AT was 187. I think my max is close
    to 187 now. That's what I hit in the TT on wednesday, and on my last
    track outing I sustained over 170 for the duration of the points race
    hitting 184 on the two efforts I _tried_ to sprint for.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18546306891/analysis

    Having a high HR like this doesn't mean I'm strong or fast, it only
    means I have a high heart rate - nothing more.
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat Jun 6 22:34:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 6/5/2026 11:17 AM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 6/5/2026 4:45 AM, zen cycle wrote:
    On 6/5/2026 12:11 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Jun 2026 21:28:40 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    When I left this morning after a good nights sleep, I had no trouble >>>>> at all holding my heart rate down to 110 or less. I arrived at the
    coffee shop, had a cup of coffee and a muffin and when I left I
    didn't seem to be riding any faster but my heart rate was averaging >>>>> 118.

    Has anyone else noticed a 10 beet higher heart rate caused by
    coffee? Now in the morning I do drink coffee before I leave on the
    ride but perhaps Starbucks has a higher cafeine content than my home >>>>> coffee?

    This might help:

    "The Complete Guide to Starbucks Caffeine"
    <https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-
    caffeine>

    I gave up coffee about 5 years ago and switched to herbal tea (no
    caffeine) and Swiss Miss Dark Chocolate, which claims to be 99.9%
    caffeine free (about 5 mg per 8 oz cup).

    As for heart rate, I have no heart.-a It's been bypassed.

    The average speed back is about the same as my speed back. And while >>>>> the wind was very low this morning it was head on and the route back >>>>> was largely a cross wind. My max heart rate was pretty low today but >>>>> the average was 10 beats higher on the way back.

    I did my first outdoor local TT in almost two years on wednesday

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18776541749/analysis

    I had a hell of a time getting my HR down after the opening climb, but
    then managed to keep it below my AT for the rest of the ride.
    Zen
    That is a high HR. I rode inside today 32 miles average HR of 104 and
    max at 145. When I am on the Catride my HR is between 92-101 low for
    sure. My research suggest that this is due to the fact that in recumbent
    position the heart is at the level of the legs and does not need the
    added spike to get blood back up the heart like when riding on
    recumbent. I take high dose of blood pressure meds to so that blunts
    response. I check my BP when I get up in morning and after riding and
    then later in day depending. My bottoms out low about 2 hours after
    riding really too low at 90/58 but when I get up in morning it is around
    130/85 which is expect cortisol spike getting up.

    Yes, I have a high heart rate, and always have. I've written about that
    in this forum before. I would regularly go over 200 when I was well into
    my 40s, and up until my late 50s my AT was 187. I think my max is close
    to 187 now. That's what I hit in the TT on wednesday, and on my last
    track outing I sustained over 170 for the duration of the points race hitting 184 on the two efforts I _tried_ to sprint for.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18546306891/analysis

    Having a high HR like this doesn't mean I'm strong or fast, it only
    means I have a high heart rate - nothing more.


    One of my friends heart just runs high, he did get it checked out, holding 170ish on even fairly gentle rides, but the cardiologist was unbothered!

    Roger Merriman
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