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    From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat May 30 17:43:53 2026
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    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.
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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat May 30 14:22:53 2026
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    On 5/30/2026 12:43 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.


    Agreed, hope you had no serious injuries, unlike this poor guy:

    https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-stabbed-to-death-violent-dog-attack-hollywood/
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat May 30 20:30:34 2026
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    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have
    his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of
    me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This
    is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding
    but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though
    the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.

    Sorry to hear your hurt, yes the dog potentially should have been under control, doesnrCOt need to be on a leash, after all such places are where
    dogs can have off leash time.

    Which as ever is the point with park trails, you do need to be wary about animal and kids and folks moving in unpredictable directions, but I do use
    them for the commute as generally itrCOs nice green spaces to travel through.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun May 31 17:15:54 2026
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    On Sat May 30 20:30:34 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have
    his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This
    is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though
    the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.

    Sorry to hear your hurt, yes the dog potentially should have been under control, doesn?t need to be on a leash, after all such places are where
    dogs can have off leash time.

    Which as ever is the point with park trails, you do need to be wary about animal and kids and folks moving in unpredictable directions, but I do use them for the commute as generally it?s nice green spaces to travel through.
    This is a trail where people walk and run. In order to be careful around unleashed dogs first you have to know that they are there.
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun May 31 18:08:10 2026
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    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat May 30 20:30:34 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have
    his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of >>> me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This
    is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding >>> but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though
    the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.

    Sorry to hear your hurt, yes the dog potentially should have been under
    control, doesn?t need to be on a leash, after all such places are where
    dogs can have off leash time.

    Which as ever is the point with park trails, you do need to be wary about
    animal and kids and folks moving in unpredictable directions, but I do use >> them for the commute as generally it?s nice green spaces to travel through.




    This is a trail where people walk and run. In order to be careful around unleashed dogs first you have to know that they are there.

    No see Royal parks and the deer that seem to have light absorbing coats,
    thus you can smell them before you can see them at times, but in both
    instances itrCOs an area you might encounter dogs deer kids, folks walking
    etc, so you moderate your speed, IrCOve never come close in the decades of commuting.

    the problem comes when folks try to push the pace, on my commute I track
    along a river/canal and have seen someone on a e-scooter before now try to
    buzz past the slow moving dog walkers by going around in the leaf litter.
    And discovered that small wheels donrCOt rollover but stop dead in such
    stuff!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From NFN Smith@worldoff9908@gmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jun 1 09:11:04 2026
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    cyclintom wrote:

    This is a trail where people walk and run. In order to be careful
    around unleashed dogs first you have to know that they are there.

    This is why I mostly avoid multi-use paths. Too much clutter from other traffic, especially from the number of people that don't really adhere
    to any kind of path etiquette.

    My traffic handling skills are good enough that I prefer to stick to the
    major arterials, even if I know of specific places that I usually avoid.

    Smith

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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jun 1 12:35:25 2026
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    On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 09:11:04 -0700, NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    cyclintom wrote:

    This is a trail where people walk and run. In order to be careful
    around unleashed dogs first you have to know that they are there.

    This is why I mostly avoid multi-use paths. Too much clutter from other >traffic, especially from the number of people that don't really adhere
    to any kind of path etiquette.

    My traffic handling skills are good enough that I prefer to stick to the >major arterials, even if I know of specific places that I usually avoid.

    Smith

    I put up with some MUP clutter for 6 miles of my regular ride, but the
    rest of my trail ride consists of almost nothing but cyclists, and
    often very few of them. Even on that six miles, most users follow the
    keep right except to pass rules and dogs are always on leashes. It
    helps that the path is mostly rural. There's another urban/suburban
    bike path near me that I avoid completely after several close calls
    with other cyclists. dogs, walkers, skaters, etc.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Jun 1 20:41:36 2026
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    NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> wrote:
    cyclintom wrote:

    This is a trail where people walk and run. In order to be careful
    around unleashed dogs first you have to know that they are there.

    This is why I mostly avoid multi-use paths. Too much clutter from other traffic, especially from the number of people that don't really adhere
    to any kind of path etiquette.

    My traffic handling skills are good enough that I prefer to stick to the major arterials, even if I know of specific places that I usually avoid.

    Smith


    I do use them and they are fine, will use a few tomorrow when I have to get
    to central London though rush hr, as they bypass or just make sense for
    going that way, will pick up one of the outer- inner cycleways as well
    which is direct, IrCOd expect Hyde park to have a fair amount of pedestrians and some wobbly lime bikes (hire bikes) as itrCOs a tube strike day. Oxford Street will be well Oxford Street!

    Some are just leisure routes others are handy cut throughs and some are
    mix, so some yourCOll need to moderate your speed and so on, though it often makes zero difference in a time keeping sense.

    Only time IrCOve been significantly held up was catching the Rugby fan
    walking to the game so I ended up at walking pace for few minutes.

    Roger Merriman
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jun 2 05:21:58 2026
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    On 5/30/2026 4:30 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have
    his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of
    me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This
    is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding
    but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though
    the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.

    Sorry to hear your hurt, yes the dog potentially should have been under control, doesnrCOt need to be on a leash, after all such places are where dogs can have off leash time.

    Which as ever is the point with park trails, you do need to be wary about animal and kids and folks moving in unpredictable directions, but I do use them for the commute as generally itrCOs nice green spaces to travel through.

    Roger Merriman


    I can't speak to California but here in Massachusetts the areas where
    dogs are allowed to be off-leash in public are few and far between, to
    the extent that they are prominently advertised as such. There may be
    some towns which _don't_ have a leash law, but I'm not aware of them.
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Jun 2 20:26:13 2026
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    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 5/30/2026 4:30 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have
    his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of >>> me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This
    is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding >>> but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though
    the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.

    Sorry to hear your hurt, yes the dog potentially should have been under
    control, doesnrCOt need to be on a leash, after all such places are where
    dogs can have off leash time.

    Which as ever is the point with park trails, you do need to be wary about
    animal and kids and folks moving in unpredictable directions, but I do use >> them for the commute as generally itrCOs nice green spaces to travel through.

    Roger Merriman


    I can't speak to California but here in Massachusetts the areas where
    dogs are allowed to be off-leash in public are few and far between, to
    the extent that they are prominently advertised as such. There may be
    some towns which _don't_ have a leash law, but I'm not aware of them.

    Seems to have leashed and off leash areas, where those bits are or not no
    idea!

    <https://www.ebparks.org/safety/dogs>

    I personally prefer dogs off the Leash as dogs are generally sensible,
    owners less so! And extendable ones are just really annoying!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Jun 4 20:26:22 2026
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    On Tue Jun 2 05:21:58 2026 zen cycle wrote:
    On 5/30/2026 4:30 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I got on to the bikr psth and some ass coming down the path didn't have
    his Enlish bulldog on a leash and stupid dog went dierctly out in fron of >> me at the last monet and I rode right over him and went diwb hard, This
    is why they have leash laws. I hqave some road rash and a lot of bleeding >> but I'll survive I don't think the dog was seriously hurt either though
    the owner is likely to get a leash.So my ride was cut short.

    Sorry to hear your hurt, yes the dog potentially should have been under control, doesn?t need to be on a leash, after all such places are where dogs can have off leash time.

    Which as ever is the point with park trails, you do need to be wary about animal and kids and folks moving in unpredictable directions, but I do use them for the commute as generally it?s nice green spaces to travel through.

    Roger Merriman


    I can't speak to California but here in Massachusetts the areas where
    dogs are allowed to be off-leash in public are few and far between, to
    the extent that they are prominently advertised as such. There may be
    some towns which _don't_ have a leash law, but I'm not aware of them.
    On the entrance to the trail there is a promenent "Dogs must be on leashes". The illegals don't pay a lot of attention to them though. But there is a dirt road that runs up over the hill elsewhere and bikes don't ride on that.
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