• The joy of a mechanic

    From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat May 9 14:13:41 2026
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    Today a brother deacon brought me his adult daughters bike to get in
    shape. Had not been ridden in years. It is a Specialized Allez with 8
    speed triple crank some version of Shimano.

    Tires were shot basically dry rot but the tubes still good. I put a set
    of new tires on it and both wheels check true in the stand. Then I
    cleaned chain and lubed it not wore at all. Went through the gears and amazingly it shift fine in every gear and combination. No problem cross chaining the triple even. No need for cables I adjusted brakes and pads
    are fine.

    In my way of thinking if it is not broke don't fix it. These bikes with exposed cables and the basic stuff work quite well, I saw no reason to
    put ne cable on the bike if it shifts perfect. Granted I am not a shop
    but why? I was happy mechanic today to get this done this fellow helped
    me when I took my crash with other stuff.
    --
    Deacon Mark

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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sat May 9 14:34:17 2026
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    On 5/9/2026 2:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Today a brother deacon brought me his adult daughters bike
    to get in shape. Had not been ridden in years. It is a
    Specialized Allez with 8 speed triple crank some version of
    Shimano.

    Tires were shot basically dry rot but the tubes still good.
    I put a set of new tires on it and both wheels check true in
    the stand. Then I cleaned chain and lubed it not wore at
    all. Went through the gears and amazingly it shift fine in
    every gear and combination. No problem cross chaining the
    triple even. No need for cables I adjusted brakes and pads
    are fine.

    In my way of thinking if it is not broke don't fix it. These
    bikes with exposed cables and the basic stuff work quite
    well, I saw no reason to put ne cable on the bike if it
    shifts perfect. Granted I am not a shop but why? I was happy
    mechanic today to get this done this fellow helped me when I
    took my crash with other stuff.

    Yes, some of those are quite straightforward and simple.

    On an older bike (3x8), you may want to open the front hub
    and evaluate the lubrication. Grease does not last forever,
    so if you find it's dried, hard and pushed away from the
    balls, a clean and relube is in order for both hubs.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun May 10 00:47:11 2026
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    On Sat May 9 14:34:17 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 5/9/2026 2:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Today a brother deacon brought me his adult daughters bike
    to get in shape. Had not been ridden in years. It is a
    Specialized Allez with 8 speed triple crank some version of
    Shimano.

    Tires were shot basically dry rot but the tubes still good.
    I put a set of new tires on it and both wheels check true in
    the stand. Then I cleaned chain and lubed it not wore at
    all. Went through the gears and amazingly it shift fine in
    every gear and combination. No problem cross chaining the
    triple even. No need for cables I adjusted brakes and pads
    are fine.

    In my way of thinking if it is not broke don't fix it. These
    bikes with exposed cables and the basic stuff work quite
    well, I saw no reason to put ne cable on the bike if it
    shifts perfect. Granted I am not a shop but why? I was happy
    mechanic today to get this done this fellow helped me when I
    took my crash with other stuff.

    Yes, some of those are quite straightforward and simple.

    On an older bike (3x8), you may want to open the front hub
    and evaluate the lubrication. Grease does not last forever,
    so if you find it's dried, hard and pushed away from the
    balls, a clean and relube is in order for both hubs.
    If the bike was carefully assembled by the original mechanic and the bike wasn't abused 8 x 3 shiftes worked very well.
    As Andrew noted the original wheels probably had caged bearings in them and the lubrication of them is vital, but cleaned and lubed they roll better than sealed bearings.
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun May 10 11:44:05 2026
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    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Sat May 9 14:34:17 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 5/9/2026 2:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Today a brother deacon brought me his adult daughters bike
    to get in shape. Had not been ridden in years. It is a
    Specialized Allez with 8 speed triple crank some version of
    Shimano.

    Tires were shot basically dry rot but the tubes still good.
    I put a set of new tires on it and both wheels check true in
    the stand. Then I cleaned chain and lubed it not wore at
    all. Went through the gears and amazingly it shift fine in
    every gear and combination. No problem cross chaining the
    triple even. No need for cables I adjusted brakes and pads
    are fine.

    In my way of thinking if it is not broke don't fix it. These
    bikes with exposed cables and the basic stuff work quite
    well, I saw no reason to put ne cable on the bike if it
    shifts perfect. Granted I am not a shop but why? I was happy
    mechanic today to get this done this fellow helped me when I
    took my crash with other stuff.

    Yes, some of those are quite straightforward and simple.

    On an older bike (3x8), you may want to open the front hub
    and evaluate the lubrication. Grease does not last forever,
    so if you find it's dried, hard and pushed away from the
    balls, a clean and relube is in order for both hubs.




    If the bike was carefully assembled by the original mechanic and the bike wasn't abused 8 x 3 shiftes worked very well.

    Never used 8 speed, but even fairly budget 7 speed stuff will shift well
    what I mostly noticed was the gaps between the cassette as it was a 12-28
    vs 9/10 speed stuff I have which even though the cassette has larger range (11-36) as there are more cogs donrCOt get in between gears as I did with the
    7 speed bike on rolling terrain.

    As Andrew noted the original wheels probably had caged bearings in them
    and the lubrication of them is vital, but cleaned and lubed they roll
    better than sealed bearings.


    Very much doubt older caged bearings do roll better, they certainly are in
    my mucky type of riding older caged bearings water and muck gets in a
    trashes them in a shorter period than sealed ones.

    Roger Merriman


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  • From AMuzi@am@yellowjersey.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Sun May 10 10:22:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 5/9/2026 7:47 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Sat May 9 14:34:17 2026 AMuzi wrote:
    On 5/9/2026 2:13 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
    Today a brother deacon brought me his adult daughters bike
    to get in shape. Had not been ridden in years. It is a
    Specialized Allez with 8 speed triple crank some version of
    Shimano.

    Tires were shot basically dry rot but the tubes still good.
    I put a set of new tires on it and both wheels check true in
    the stand. Then I cleaned chain and lubed it not wore at
    all. Went through the gears and amazingly it shift fine in
    every gear and combination. No problem cross chaining the
    triple even. No need for cables I adjusted brakes and pads
    are fine.

    In my way of thinking if it is not broke don't fix it. These
    bikes with exposed cables and the basic stuff work quite
    well, I saw no reason to put ne cable on the bike if it
    shifts perfect. Granted I am not a shop but why? I was happy
    mechanic today to get this done this fellow helped me when I
    took my crash with other stuff.

    Yes, some of those are quite straightforward and simple.

    On an older bike (3x8), you may want to open the front hub
    and evaluate the lubrication. Grease does not last forever,
    so if you find it's dried, hard and pushed away from the
    balls, a clean and relube is in order for both hubs.




    If the bike was carefully assembled by the original mechanic and the bike wasn't abused 8 x 3 shiftes worked very well.

    As Andrew noted the original wheels probably had caged bearings in them and the lubrication of them is vital, but cleaned and lubed they roll better than sealed bearings.

    There are no ball retainers in any hub of that (1990s
    cassette) class.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    am@yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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