• Baby's day out

    From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 16 06:13:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides
    this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712 https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by
    the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built
    it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to
    fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?"
    you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything.
    Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet.

    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal
    that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it.

    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts
    are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from
    the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated
    Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the
    seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to
    size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a
    number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings
    in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) .
    His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to
    see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/)
    as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame
    on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the
    4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly.
    For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple
    of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1
    (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used
    the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000
    25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes.
    the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on
    the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the
    top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on
    some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on
    the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it
    was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more pleasant to look at.



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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 16 23:24:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712 https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by
    the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built
    it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to
    fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?"
    you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything. Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet.

    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal
    that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it.

    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts
    are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from
    the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated
    Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to
    size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a
    number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings
    in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) .
    His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to
    see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/)
    as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame
    on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the
    4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly.
    For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple
    of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1
    (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used
    the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000
    25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes.
    the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on
    the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the
    top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on
    some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on
    the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it
    was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more pleasant to look at.

    The base colour looks to be the same as my Revolt though the splash of
    colour is a bit 80rCOs roadie?

    Is something fun about getting a frame built up and choosing the bits, even
    if I generally got the bike shop to do this.

    The integrated seat post seems to be a weight saving feature, IrCOm generally fairly cynical of integrated bars, and while I like that the Revolts D
    shaped carbon seat post is comfy, IrCOm less keen on the it not being
    standard this said itrCOs been fine.

    YourCOll be upsetting Tom with fast times outside now!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Wolfgang Strobl@news51@mystrobl.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Apr 20 11:47:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Am Thu, 16 Apr 2026 06:13:58 -0400 schrieb zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>:

    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides >this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712 >https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by
    the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built
    it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to
    fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    Nice. Thanks for the report and explaining how and why you built
    your replacement bike.

    I too have some old bicyles and a lot spare parts in my basement.
    But the youngest of those road bikes are really old, we bought
    them in early 2010, 16 year ago. We use hers in a Tacx Neo 2T
    smart trainer and both as a backup. That so far hasn't been
    need. So IrCOm keeping the spare parts in the basement instead of
    selling it or giving it away.

    Instead of building new bikes from old parts, I decided to design
    and build two bikes from new components, in early 2023, for my
    wife and me. It wasn't simple or easy, but the result served us
    well over the last three years.

    A few days ago I did a training ride up and down a nearby hill,
    repeating about 50 meters of altitude gain nine times on a strait
    12 percent ascent up to a small church on the top of that hill.
    For a cooldown, I finally did a short ride through a small
    village nearby.

    <https://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/fahrrad/20260417/kreuzbergallee.jpg>
    Looking down at the city of Bonn, you can see my bike on the
    right, that little church on the left.

    The following graphic is straight out from what Garmin Connect
    shows for my ride.

    Total elevation gain: 578 meters, 17.5 kilometers,
    1:45 h, average power: 107 watts.

    <https://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/fahrrad/20260417/kreuzbergrunde.png>

    As you can see, I climbed the 12% gradient at just under 5 km/h,
    with an average power output of around 125 watts. That matches
    pretty closely what kreuzotter.de*) calculates based on my data.

    I'm old and I'm not heavy. About 90-120 watts was enough to get
    me and two 1l-bottles of water up Mt. Ventoux last year and to
    still do such trainings.

    Looking at your Strava data, I guess you are somewhat heavier
    than me and perhaps younger. My Strava account is the free and
    somewhat crippled one, so my view on data is perhaps somewhat
    crippled.

    When designing our bicycles, I had two goals in mind: simplicity
    and adaptability to declining physical ability due to age. In
    fact, IrCOve already downsized the chainrings twice, on my bike
    from 40 to 38 to 36, on my wifes bike from 36 to 32.



    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?"
    you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything. >Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet.

    That's a good strategy. I did the same thing for a long time,
    essentially since 1995. But eventually you reach a point where
    you have to decide whether to buy new, outdated parts or make a
    cut.

    For us, this point came in early 2023, the change served us well
    in that year. I couldn't climb up Mt. Ventoux in 2024 as planned
    and couldn't ride at all for almost ten months because of an
    accident, but I did it in '25. I wouldn't have even tried that
    with the old bike. My wife loves the easy-to-use wireless linear
    shifting and the disc brakes. She even rode her bike up a short
    12% incline once, just to see what it was like.

    In short: Enjoy your newly assembled road bike, and may it serve
    you well for many years to come. That's the better way, if it's
    feasible.



    *) <http://kreuzotter.de/english/espeed.htm>
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Apr 20 18:38:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu Apr 16 06:13:58 2026 zen cycle wrote:
    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides
    this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712 https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by
    the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built
    it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to
    fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?"
    you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything. Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet.

    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal
    that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it.

    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts
    are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from
    the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated
    Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the
    seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to
    size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a
    number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dPLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings
    in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) .
    His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to
    see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/)
    as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame
    on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the
    4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly.
    For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple
    of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1
    (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used
    the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000
    25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes.
    the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on
    the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the
    top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on
    some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on
    the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it
    was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more pleasant to look at.
    Glad you got out for a ride but would prefer a link to the actual bike. I don't belong to Strava and they only publish my rides to use to challenge other riders. They apparently are linked to Garmin. We don't need "proof" of your rides unless you're thinking of Liebermann. He doesn't ride bicyclsz and never did.
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Apr 20 18:54:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu Apr 16 06:13:58 2026 zen cycle wrote:
    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides
    this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712
    https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by
    the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built
    it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to
    fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?"
    you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything.
    Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet.

    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal
    that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it.

    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts
    are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from
    the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated
    Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the
    seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to
    size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a
    number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings
    in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) .
    His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking
    saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to
    see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For
    Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing
    https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/)
    as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame
    on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the
    4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly.
    For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple
    of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet
    comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1
    (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used
    the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct
    comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000
    25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes.
    the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on
    the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the
    top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on
    some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on
    the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it
    was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more
    pleasant to look at.




    Glad you got out for a ride but would prefer a link to the actual bike. I don't belong to Strava and they only publish my rides to use to challenge other riders. They apparently are linked to Garmin. We don't need "proof"
    of your rides unless you're thinking of Liebermann. He doesn't ride bicyclsz and never did.

    Garmin doesnrCOt control or auto connect to Strava which you need to have a account as indeed you do even if yourCOve lost the password etc, itrCOs still live and showing your rides etc

    Roger Merrriman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Mon Apr 20 13:11:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:38:32 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    I don't belong to Strava

    Very strange. I see two Tom Kunich athletes found in the Strava
    search: <https://www.strava.com/athletes/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&text=tom%20kunich&gsf=1> One account has no data, so I'll assume the San Leandro account is the
    real Tom Kunich:
    <https://www.strava.com/athletes/27432450>

    and they only publish my rides to use to challenge other riders.

    Challenge? Like this?

    05/11/2025 <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=125679&group=rec.bicycles.tech#125679>
    Message-ID: <dy9UP.25407$5Nof.12899@fx35.iad>
    "I closeed my Strava account as I've said before - because when I did
    a ride the 20 year olds would ride the same course and then brag about
    how much faster they were. Half of these guys were Cat 1 or 2! This
    was the same reason I stopped riding with the club - I am not a racer
    and if I'm going fast it pisses me off that the club racers would take
    a different route so that they could get there before me. And up to
    four years ago I was outclimbing most of the people in the club
    without trying to. So I took to riding with the slowpokes at the back.
    I could drop anyone on a decent. Probably because I didn't like riding
    close to others at speed."
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 16:49:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Mon Apr 20 18:54:16 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu Apr 16 06:13:58 2026 zen cycle wrote:
    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides >> this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712
    https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by
    the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built >> it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to
    fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?"
    you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything. >> Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet.

    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal
    that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it.

    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts >> are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from
    the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated
    Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the >> seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to
    size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a
    number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dPLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings
    in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) . >> His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking >> saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to
    see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For
    Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing
    https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/)
    as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame
    on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the >> 4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly.
    For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple >> of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet
    comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1 >> (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used
    the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct >> comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000
    25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes. >> the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on
    the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the
    top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on
    some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on
    the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it
    was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more >> pleasant to look at.




    Glad you got out for a ride but would prefer a link to the actual bike. I don't belong to Strava and they only publish my rides to use to challenge other riders. They apparently are linked to Garmin. We don't need "proof" of your rides unless you're thinking of Liebermann. He doesn't ride bicyclsz and never did.

    Garmin doesn?t control or auto connect to Strava which you need to have a account as indeed you do even if you?ve lost the password etc, it?s still live and showing your rides etc
    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records and neae records displayed? There are about a dozen people on these courses that fly by me. Either they are not on Strava or after they fly past me they slow dramatically.
    Liebermann as usual doesn't know anything about anythying but he has to pretend to know everything about everything. It surprises me that after the obvious lies and bullshit he says is believed by so many. If I show his postings to people I know without even making a comment they immediately spot him as a loud mouth nobody.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 10:34:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:49:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records and neae records displayed?

    Strava offers free accounts with limited features. That's what I have
    and that is probably what you have.

    "Is Strava free?" <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216917627-Is-Strava-free>

    There are about a dozen people on these courses that fly by me. Either they are not on Strava or after they fly past me they slow dramatically.

    Are those the only options? Strava has about 180 million registered
    users. I really doubt they worry if you are faster or slower. There
    are plenty other possibilities, such as you imagining that your
    mythical dozen bicycle riders care if you are faster or slower.

    "Strava Revenue and Usage Statistics (2026)" <https://www.businessofapps.com/data/strava-statistics/>
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon Apr 20 18:54:16 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu Apr 16 06:13:58 2026 zen cycle wrote:
    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides >>>> this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712
    https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by >>>> the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built >>>> it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to >>>> fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?" >>>> you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything. >>>> Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet. >>>>
    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal >>>> that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it.

    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts >>>> are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from >>>> the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated >>>> Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the >>>> seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to >>>> size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a >>>> number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings >>>> in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) . >>>> His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking >>>> saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to >>>> see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For >>>> Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing
    https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/) >>>> as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame >>>> on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the >>>> 4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly. >>>> For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple >>>> of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet
    comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1 >>>> (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used >>>> the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct >>>> comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000 >>>> 25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes. >>>> the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on >>>> the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the >>>> top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on >>>> some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on >>>> the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it >>>> was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more >>>> pleasant to look at.




    Glad you got out for a ride but would prefer a link to the actual bike. I >>> don't belong to Strava and they only publish my rides to use to challenge >>> other riders. They apparently are linked to Garmin. We don't need "proof" >>> of your rides unless you're thinking of Liebermann. He doesn't ride
    bicyclsz and never did.

    Garmin doesn?t control or auto connect to Strava which you need to have a
    account as indeed you do even if you?ve lost the password etc, it?s still
    live and showing your rides etc




    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records
    and neae records displayed? There are about a dozen people on these
    courses that fly by me. Either they are not on Strava or after they fly
    past me they slow dramatically.

    There is two levels the free accounts and paid for, which gives one more features.

    Liebermann as usual doesn't know anything about anythying but he has to pretend to know everything about everything. It surprises me that after
    the obvious lies and bullshit he says is believed by so many. If I show
    his postings to people I know without even making a comment they
    immediately spot him as a loud mouth nobody.

    No herCOs been quite correct.

    Roger Merriman


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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 19:37:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.
    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they get course, speed and distance?
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  • From Mark J cleary@mcleary08@comcast.net to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 15:02:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 4/21/2026 2:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.




    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they get course, speed and distance?
    Strava is not the FBI or CIA they can only track your ride if you allow
    this and even then they ask about privacy. Your Garmin account or some
    other account is allowing Strava to post the ride.

    I pay for the service that allows more features it is not bad at all
    about $75 a year. They also have it free but you don't get any options
    or little other than you still have to give them permission to post a ride.

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then
    Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.
    Although since I am also a strava customer Strava will post it
    automatically. I also have Ride with the GPS the free account and I look
    at that data but does not mean much except for indoor rides.

    I have Strava set up that my profile is public and anyone can see my
    ride. I don't care because no one cares too much about it they are not
    me. No cares how fast I go or long except possible some close friends I
    know. I can only ride as fast as I can because of age and general
    ability whatever that may be. Actually on some segments I am up pretty
    high in the standings in my younger days. I go back to 2009 with Strava.

    Tom you can even delete your Strava account completely it is easy to do
    by going to the website.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 13:07:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.

    Thanks. I've made a few mistakes over the years. I usually confess,
    offer a correction, and move on.

    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they get course, speed and distance?

    "Delete Your Strava Account"
    (Updated March 31, 2026 at 2:23 PM) <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918827-Delete-Your-Strava-Account>

    Tom, I don't believe that you will delete your account. If it's like everything else you've bragged about in RBT, you would probably do it
    wrong, create a mess, and blame someone else for your failure. Without
    Strava, you would also not have any proof of your amazing feats of
    bicycle riding.

    However, if you're going to continue posting your rides to Strava, it
    would be useful to also post which of your 15(?) bicycles you were
    riding at the time. Otherwise, I might be tempted to suggest that you
    only have one bicycle with the appropriate speed and cadence sensors
    attached.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 21:52:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.

    Thanks. I've made a few mistakes over the years. I usually confess,
    offer a correction, and move on.

    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to
    track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they
    get course, speed and distance?

    "Delete Your Strava Account"
    (Updated March 31, 2026 at 2:23 PM) <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918827-Delete-Your-Strava-Account>

    Tom, I don't believe that you will delete your account. If it's like everything else you've bragged about in RBT, you would probably do it
    wrong, create a mess, and blame someone else for your failure. Without Strava, you would also not have any proof of your amazing feats of
    bicycle riding.

    However, if you're going to continue posting your rides to Strava, it
    would be useful to also post which of your 15(?) bicycles you were
    riding at the time. Otherwise, I might be tempted to suggest that you
    only have one bicycle with the appropriate speed and cadence sensors attached.

    I suspect he doesnrCOt know what herCOs doing, as it shows up as Commute or MTB ride which is due to recording in that category in Garmin, ie have set up 3 Commute-Gravel-MTB I occasionally do go for road rides but itrCOs rare and
    just toggle the commute tag off!

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 21 21:43:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 21 Apr 2026 21:52:47 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.

    Thanks. I've made a few mistakes over the years. I usually confess,
    offer a correction, and move on.

    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to
    track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they
    get course, speed and distance?

    "Delete Your Strava Account"
    (Updated March 31, 2026 at 2:23 PM)
    <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918827-Delete-Your-Strava-Account>

    Tom, I don't believe that you will delete your account. If it's like
    everything else you've bragged about in RBT, you would probably do it
    wrong, create a mess, and blame someone else for your failure. Without
    Strava, you would also not have any proof of your amazing feats of
    bicycle riding.

    However, if you're going to continue posting your rides to Strava, it
    would be useful to also post which of your 15(?) bicycles you were
    riding at the time. Otherwise, I might be tempted to suggest that you
    only have one bicycle with the appropriate speed and cadence sensors
    attached.

    I suspect he doesnAt know what heAs doing, as it shows up as Commute or MTB >ride which is due to recording in that category in Garmin, ie have set up 3 >Commute-Gravel-MTB I occasionally do go for road rides but itAs rare and
    just toggle the commute tag off!

    Roger Merriman

    True, but Tom's classification errors are not very horrible. What is
    horrible is that he hasn't made the necessary corrections:

    <https://www.strava.com/athletes/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&text=tom%20kunich&gsf=1> (See bicycle icons to the right of Tom's name):
    323 bike rides
    6 mountain bike rides
    1 gravel bike ride

    Tom's problem is NOT that he doesn't know what he's doing. His
    problem is that he doesn't learn from his mistakes. If he is caught
    making a mistake, he will ceaselessly defends his mistake. No amount
    of logic, proof, evidence or authoritative comment will inspire him to
    change his mind and admit that he was wrong. If he follows his usual
    pattern, he will soon claim that he was "testing" various bicycles to
    see how they look on Strava, or something equally improbable. If he
    actually admits to making a mistake, he probably won't edit the entry
    and change the rides to their proper classification.

    "Change Activity Type" <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216919397-Change-Activity-Type> --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 04:51:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 4/21/2026 1:34 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:49:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records and neae records displayed?

    Strava offers free accounts with limited features. That's what I have
    and that is probably what you have.

    Correct, my account is free as well - haven't paid a penny for it in the
    tens years I've been on the account.


    "Is Strava free?" <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216917627-Is-Strava-free>

    There are about a dozen people on these courses that fly by me. Either they are not on Strava or after they fly past me they slow dramatically.

    Are those the only options? Strava has about 180 million registered
    users. I really doubt they worry if you are faster or slower. There
    are plenty other possibilities, such as you imagining that your
    mythical dozen bicycle riders care if you are faster or slower.

    "Strava Revenue and Usage Statistics (2026)" <https://www.businessofapps.com/data/strava-statistics/>


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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 04:52:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 4/20/2026 2:54 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu Apr 16 06:13:58 2026 zen cycle wrote:
    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides >>> this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712
    https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by
    the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built >>> it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to
    fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?"
    you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything. >>> Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet.

    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal
    that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it.

    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts >>> are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from
    the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated
    Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the >>> seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to
    size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a
    number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings
    in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) . >>> His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking >>> saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to
    see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For
    Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing
    https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/)
    as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame
    on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the >>> 4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly.
    For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple >>> of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet
    comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1 >>> (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used
    the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct >>> comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000
    25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes. >>> the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on
    the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the
    top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on
    some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on
    the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it
    was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more >>> pleasant to look at.




    Glad you got out for a ride but would prefer a link to the actual bike. I
    don't belong to Strava and they only publish my rides to use to challenge
    other riders. They apparently are linked to Garmin. We don't need "proof"
    of your rides unless you're thinking of Liebermann. He doesn't ride bicyclsz and never did.

    Garmin doesnrCOt control or auto connect to Strava which you need to have a account as indeed you do even if yourCOve lost the password etc, itrCOs still live and showing your rides etc

    Roger Merrriman


    Besides that, the pictures of the bike are at the 2nd link, as I noted
    above.
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  • From Wolfgang Strobl@news51@mystrobl.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 10:56:32 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:34:23 -0700 schrieb Jeff Liebermann
    <jeffl@cruzio.com>:

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:49:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records and neae records displayed?

    Strava offers free accounts with limited features. That's what I have
    and that is probably what you have.

    I also have a free account on Strava. ItrCOs practically useless,
    but thatrCOs not much of a problem for me, since I only use Strava
    to check out other peoplerCOs activities when they post links to
    Strava.

    Strava requires you to sign up to view content. In my opinion,
    the free account offers few useful features. I have better
    tools, some open source and free, some that I build myself, some
    that come as a service offering with hardware. Garmin Connect,
    BaseCamp and MapSource aren't that bad, for collecting and
    organizing your data. For planning, I prefer
    <https://brouter.m11n.de/?lng=e>.

    If you're looking for competition, you need a platform. I'm not,
    so I don't.


    "Is Strava free?" ><https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216917627-Is-Strava-free>

    Strava isn't free. You're not only paying with your own data, but
    also by forcing others to sign up on their platform just to view
    _your_ data. Don't know about payed accounts. Does Strava offer
    paying customers a way to show anonymous visitors activities,
    tracks and photos that you took and uploaded yourself?
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  • From Wolfgang Strobl@news51@mystrobl.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 11:12:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself, but
    IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you? At least, I hope not. Maybe itrCOs a
    special token generated on the Garmin Connect website that you
    then upload to your Strava account?
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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 05:14:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Mon Apr 20 18:54:16 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Thu Apr 16 06:13:58 2026 zen cycle wrote:
    I'm finishing up a new-to-me build and took it out for a couple of rides >>>>> this past weekend:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18069956712
    https://www.strava.com/activities/18083772813

    Pictures are at the 2nd link.

    This is a replacement for the frame that was damaged when I got hit by >>>>> the truck a year ago. The frame is a 2018 Giant TCR Advanced SL. I built >>>>> it up with left-over parts from the crashed bike and a few new ones to >>>>> fit the new frame and/or replace the damaged parts.

    "why didn't you use the insurance money to buy a new frame/part/bike?" >>>>> you may be asking. I have two decades worth of ten-speed road
    componentry and rim-break wheels. I want something I can mix/match
    parts, rather than having a complete new set of incompatible everything. >>>>> Plus, this frame was an exceptionally good deal from The Pro's Closet. >>>>>
    https://www.theproscloset.com/

    First off - the frame is aesthetically hideous. But, at the good deal >>>>> that was had I figured I could paint or wrap the frame if I like it. >>>>>
    It's mostly a Sram Red 10sp set-up - FYI replacement 10sp SRAM red parts >>>>> are getting harder and harder to find - but with the same brakes from >>>>> the wrecked bike.

    The biggest challenge is the seat post. This frame uses an "Integrated >>>>> Seat Post" (or ISP as Giant marketing prefers), meaning it come with the >>>>> seat post molded ridiculously long and it's up to the fitter to cut to >>>>> size. Then the seat is mounted to a sleeve-type of clamp. There are a >>>>> number of issues with this set-up, most aptly described here by the
    YouTube Reviewer Torque Peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLmRvwb1KhY

    This gentleman appears to be an ME by training, and has nicely done
    drawings and numbers to back up his statements (he uses 3D CAD drawings >>>>> in other videos, he's sort of a much less annoying version of Hambini) . >>>>> His experience matches mine exactly - loose sleeve, rocking and creaking >>>>> saddle. I figured out how to build up the post for a firm fit using
    metal tape before I found the video. I did searching after the fact to >>>>> see if this was a common problem - turns out it is, and Giant seems
    content to let the customer deal with it rather than do some Design For >>>>> Manufacturing up-front engineering (and yes, DFM is a thing
    https://www.6sigma.us/six-sigma-in-focus/design-for-manufacturing-dfm/) >>>>> as it's apparently the same design even though the frame molds have
    changed for other 'improvements' to the frame. Shame on them, and shame >>>>> on me for not researching this more deeply.

    To be clear, I didn't cut the seat post. It actually came a bit too
    short but the people at The Pros Closet included a spacer kit (yes
    official Giant parts). However the length is a non issue, it's the
    sleeve fit. I tightened the clamp bolt as much as I dared (well past the >>>>> 4NM spec). On the first ride, the seat was rocking and creaking loudly. >>>>> For the second ride, I applied a little bit of carbon paste and a couple >>>>> of layers of aluminum duct tape - no creaking, no rocking.

    I am impressed with the ride. It feels responsive and light, and yet >>>>> comfortable and compliant. The weight is about the same as the Scott CR1 >>>>> (my main road race machine), but it's noticeably less 'harsh'. I used >>>>> the same training wheels I had been riding on my Scott for a more direct >>>>> comparison. However, on the 2nd ride I swapped out the Continental 5000 >>>>> 25mm with butyl tubes for a set of Continental 5000 30mm with TPU tubes. >>>>> the difference was noticeable, all positive. I can't mount the 30mm on >>>>> the Scott as there isn't enough height clearance, they rub on both the >>>>> top of the fork crown and rear brake bridge.

    As can be seen in the 2nd strava link, I hit a couple of top 3 PRs on >>>>> some local climbs, and lets just say I wasn't exactly out for KOMs on >>>>> the ride.

    Other than the seat post issue and the nausea-inducing color scheme it >>>>> was a good purchase. Now I need to think about how to make it a bit more >>>>> pleasant to look at.




    Glad you got out for a ride but would prefer a link to the actual bike.

    Pictures are at the 2nd link, as I noted in the OP.

    I
    don't belong to Strava

    Yes, you do, or there wouldn't be an account with your name on it that
    shows ride starting and stopping from your house.

    and they only publish my rides to use to challenge
    other riders.

    No, they don't. IF someone wants to see your postings as a challenge to
    their performance, they're free to do so, but they "reason" strava
    exists is to provide a social-media type of forum where you can keep
    track of your rides. If you wanted to, you could make your account
    private and none of your rides would be visible to anyone but you.

    They apparently are linked to Garmin.

    You did that when you set up your garmin. You went through the step of
    linking the account. It isn't done automatically.

    We don't need "proof"
    of your rides unless you're thinking of Liebermann. He doesn't ride
    bicyclsz and never did.

    Funny, you're the one who constantly complains about my riding.

    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a
    membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records
    and neae records displayed?

    Because you didn't cancel the account, dumbass. You're still a member
    and as long as your garmin account is linked to your strava account your
    rides will upload. This is your ride from two weeks ago, the last ride
    shown:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18187508955

    And yes, we know it's you, because we can zoom into the start/finish
    point on the ride map and it's your house.


    There are about a dozen people on these
    courses that fly by me. Either they are not on Strava or after they fly
    past me they slow dramatically.

    so?

    Liebermann as usual doesn't know anything about anythying but he has to
    pretend to know everything about everything.

    He's very rarely wrong, and even less so when he's pointing out your
    mistakes, like how you claim not to be a strava member yet all your
    rides are posted on an account with your name that shows rides starting
    and ending from your house.

    It surprises me that after
    the obvious lies and bullshit he says is believed by so many. If I show
    his postings to people I know without even making a comment they
    immediately spot him as a loud mouth nobody.

    I suspect if that were an incident concocted anywhere but in your
    deluded mind it isn't Jeff they're thinking is a loudmouthed nobody.

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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 05:26:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 4/22/2026 4:56 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:34:23 -0700 schrieb Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>:

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 16:49:00 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records and neae records displayed?

    Strava offers free accounts with limited features. That's what I have
    and that is probably what you have.

    I also have a free account on Strava. ItrCOs practically useless,
    but thatrCOs not much of a problem for me, since I only use Strava
    to check out other peoplerCOs activities when they post links to
    Strava.

    Strava requires you to sign up to view content. In my opinion,
    the free account offers few useful features. I have better
    tools, some open source and free, some that I build myself, some
    that come as a service offering with hardware. Garmin Connect,
    BaseCamp and MapSource aren't that bad, for collecting and
    organizing your data. For planning, I prefer <https://brouter.m11n.de/?lng=e>.

    If you're looking for competition, you need a platform. I'm not,
    so I don't.


    "Is Strava free?"
    <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216917627-Is-Strava-free>

    Strava isn't free. You're not only paying with your own data, but
    also by forcing others to sign up on their platform just to view
    _your_ data. Don't know about payed accounts.

    There is that - yes, I have never transferred any money to Strava,
    though they do now have access to and rights over my activity data from
    the last ten years.

    Does Strava offer
    paying customers a way to show anonymous visitors activities,
    tracks and photos that you took and uploaded yourself?

    They don't offer any access to anonymous members for paying customers,
    even if the anonymous member has a free account, and they also offer a
    'hidden start/finish' feature which doesn't show the initial/final 1/4
    mile of the ride to assist with anonymity/privacy as part of the "free"
    tier.

    Photos and ride data uploads are part of the "free" service and as long
    as the ride is not marked as 'private' any media and data associated
    with the ride is available to any member. The paid tier offers analysis
    of historical data including comparisons of rides/segments, and AI
    assisted coaching, but that information is only available to the member.




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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 05:39:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 4/22/2026 5:12 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then
    Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself, but
    IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you? At least, I hope not. Maybe itrCOs a
    special token generated on the Garmin Connect website that you
    then upload to your Strava account?



    When you sign up for Garmin Connect there is a path to add "Linked
    accounts". They have a number of different athletic platforms such as
    Strava. They don't publish a list because it can change depending on who does/doesn't maintain the data sharing agreement with Garmin but the
    active list is kept up-to-date on that Garmin Connect UI page.

    To answer your question - yes, to link the accounts you have to enter
    your credentials though the Connect link portal, though they take you to
    the specific app interface where you log into your account. I don't
    believe Garmin actually has your PW information, so you may be correct
    that they create some type of token when you log into the 3rd party app
    though the Garmin portal, but I could be wrong.
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  • From Rolf Mantel@news@hartig-mantel.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 12:02:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then
    Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself, but
    IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps". This for me listed FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.
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  • From Wolfgang Strobl@news51@mystrobl.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then
    Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself, but
    IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across >devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?
    --
    Wir danken f|+r die Beachtung aller Sicherheitsbestimmungen
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  • From Rolf Mantel@news@hartig-mantel.de to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 15:01:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Am 22.04.2026 um 12:52 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself, but
    IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?

    TK (health insurance) is allowed to know the total daily distance
    cycled; I get a 10re4 voucher twice a year for cycling at least 40km per
    week for 10 out of 12 weeks.


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  • From Ted Heise@theise@panix.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 13:46:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:52:33 +0200,
    Wolfgang Strobl <news51@mystrobl.de> wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>:
    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin
    Connect. Then Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date
    and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself,
    but IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it
    up on my own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login
    credentials for your Connect account, would you?

    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not
    part of the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but
    shared across devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are
    no connected apps there, though...

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on
    that Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic
    sharing.

    I don't think one has to have the app, but an account is needed.
    Here's what the AI overview says about Ride with GPS linkage with
    Garmin Connect...

    Linking Ride with GPS (RWGPS) and Garmin Connect shares
    authorization tokens (OAuth) to enable bi-directional data
    exchange, including activity data, route/course files, and
    profile identifiers.
    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> Gretna, NE, USA
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Wed Apr 22 20:23:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 05:14:37 -0400, zen cycle
    <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

    This is your ride from two weeks ago, the last ride
    shown:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18187508955

    That's odd. Tom's most recent Strava ride was on
    Saturday, Apr 19, 2026, three days ago: <https://www.strava.com/athletes/27432450> <https://www.strava.com/activities/18187508955>
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 05:59:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 4/22/2026 6:52 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself, but
    IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    That's because it doesn't create the link automatically. You have to
    have an account at a different platform, then manually initiate the
    link. What I find annoying is that it _must_ be done through the phone
    app if you do it from the Garmin side. The option isn't there through
    the desktop app, though the desktop will show you what accountsnare
    linked. Strava will allow you to create a link to Garmin from the desktop.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?


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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 11:36:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/22/2026 6:52 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>>>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I donrCOt plan on doing it myself, but
    IrCOd like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldnrCOt just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    That's because it doesn't create the link automatically. You have to
    have an account at a different platform, then manually initiate the
    link. What I find annoying is that it _must_ be done through the phone
    app if you do it from the Garmin side. The option isn't there through
    the desktop app, though the desktop will show you what accountsnare
    linked. Strava will allow you to create a link to Garmin from the desktop.

    Strava definitely develops for the app and the webpage later, this said I
    find the Routing useful, the app is junk for this, or at least off road and
    old school bridleway bashing ie I might be one of only a handful of riders
    to have ridden such bridleway and sometimes only one, as I use Ordnance
    Survey which tells me the rights of ways.

    If itrCOs more popular trails or roads itrCOs total overkill.

    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?



    Roger Merriman



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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 19:13:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed Apr 22 05:14:37 2026 zen cycle wrote:

    Funny, you're the one who constantly complains about my riding.

    A couple of years ago, Strava sent me an email asking me to pay for a
    membership. I said no, so why do I still hyave a membership with records >> and neae records displayed?

    Because you didn't cancel the account, dumbass. You're still a member
    and as long as your garmin account is linked to your strava account your rides will upload. This is your ride from two weeks ago, the last ride
    shown:

    https://www.strava.com/activities/18187508955

    And yes, we know it's you, because we can zoom into the start/finish
    point on the ride map and it's your house.


    There are about a dozen people on these
    courses that fly by me. Either they are not on Strava or after they fly
    past me they slow dramatically.

    so?

    Liebermann as usual doesn't know anything about anythying but he has to
    pretend to know everything about everything.

    He's very rarely wrong, and even less so when he's pointing out your mistakes, like how you claim not to be a strava member yet all your
    rides are posted on an account with your name that shows rides starting
    and ending from your house.

    It surprises me that after
    the obvious lies and bullshit he says is believed by so many. If I show
    his postings to people I know without even making a comment they
    immediately spot him as a loud mouth nobody.

    I suspect if that were an incident concocted anywhere but in your
    deluded mind it isn't Jeff they're thinking is a loudmouthed nobody.
    I complained that your virtual rides are no like a regular ride. I have absolutely no complaints about your real rides. And I have applauded them.
    Well, I don't understand these guys going so fast and Strava showing me with records, near records and personal bests. Doesn't that seem odd to you?
    Thanks for that information. I thought that my Strava was already private. Next time they open my account, I will set everything private again.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 19:16:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Tue Apr 21 21:52:47 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.

    Thanks. I've made a few mistakes over the years. I usually confess,
    offer a correction, and move on.

    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to
    track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they
    get course, speed and distance?

    "Delete Your Strava Account"
    (Updated March 31, 2026 at 2:23 PM) <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918827-Delete-Your-Strava-Account>

    Tom, I don't believe that you will delete your account. If it's like everything else you've bragged about in RBT, you would probably do it wrong, create a mess, and blame someone else for your failure. Without Strava, you would also not have any proof of your amazing feats of
    bicycle riding.

    However, if you're going to continue posting your rides to Strava, it
    would be useful to also post which of your 15(?) bicycles you were
    riding at the time. Otherwise, I might be tempted to suggest that you
    only have one bicycle with the appropriate speed and cadence sensors attached.

    I suspect he doesn?t know what he?s doing, as it shows up as Commute or MTB ride which is due to recording in that category in Garmin, ie have set up 3 Commute-Gravel-MTB I occasionally do go for road rides but it?s rare and
    just toggle the commute tag off!
    Roger the ONLY account I have is for road on Strava and Garmin. If Strava shows anything different that isn't because of me.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 19:21:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Tue Apr 21 15:02:57 2026 Mark J cleary wrote:
    On 4/21/2026 2:37 PM, cyclintom wrote:
    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.




    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they get course, speed and distance?
    Strava is not the FBI or CIA they can only track your ride if you allow
    this and even then they ask about privacy. Your Garmin account or some
    other account is allowing Strava to post the ride.

    I pay for the service that allows more features it is not bad at all
    about $75 a year. They also have it free but you don't get any options
    or little other than you still have to give them permission to post a ride.

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.
    Although since I am also a strava customer Strava will post it
    automatically. I also have Ride with the GPS the free account and I look
    at that data but does not mean much except for indoor rides.

    I have Strava set up that my profile is public and anyone can see my
    ride. I don't care because no one cares too much about it they are not
    me. No cares how fast I go or long except possible some close friends I
    know. I can only ride as fast as I can because of age and general
    ability whatever that may be. Actually on some segments I am up pretty
    high in the standings in my younger days. I go back to 2009 with Strava.

    Tom you can even delete your Strava account completely it is easy to do
    by going to the website.
    I've attempted to cancel my strava account several times and not only have they continued with it nuy they never removed my privacy request which I made many times.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 19:33:50 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed Apr 22 12:02:13 2026 Rolf Mantel wrote:
    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then
    Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I don?t plan on doing it myself, but
    I?d like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldn?t just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps". This for me listed FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.
    Remember I told everyone that I made my account private because 20 year olds were breaking my numbers and Strava was publishing that when I just wanted to keep track of my distances and speeds?
    Today I passed everyone but one guy who came flying by like I was standing still. I'm not fast and don't consider myself fast but Strava is showing my speeds and distances as records.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 19:37:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I don?t plan on doing it myself, but
    I?d like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldn?t just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across >devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?
    Well, I bought my 830 and 1030 used so the previous ownews might have loaded apps on them and Looking at them I can't find any mention of apps and how to stop them.
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?Y3ljbGludG9t?=@cyclintom@yahoo.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 19:38:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Wed Apr 22 15:01:48 2026 Rolf Mantel wrote:
    Am 22.04.2026 um 12:52 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I don?t plan on doing it myself, but
    I?d like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldn?t just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of
    the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?

    TK (health insurance) is allowed to know the total daily distance
    cycled; I get a 10? voucher twice a year for cycling at least 40km per
    week for 10 out of 12 weeks.
    My health insurance is private and makes no account for exercise.
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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 12:46:19 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 19:13:22 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    I thought that my Strava was already private. Next time they open my account, I will set everything private again.

    As of today at 12:40PM, your Strava account is still very much active: <https://www.strava.com/athletes/27432450>

    You ride this morning:
    <https://www.strava.com/activities/18229586419>
    Keep trying.

    While you're at it could you also delete the account you accidentally
    added with a Santa Clara address?
    <https://www.strava.com/athletes/114659696>
    No need to thank me.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 20:26:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Tue Apr 21 21:52:47 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:
    Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:37:29 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue Apr 21 17:37:06 2026 Roger Merriman wrote:

    No he?s been quite correct.

    Thanks. I've made a few mistakes over the years. I usually confess,
    offer a correction, and move on.

    Well I tried to cancel my account several times and they continue to
    track me. As for them having no connection with Garmin? BS, how do they >>>> get course, speed and distance?

    "Delete Your Strava Account"
    (Updated March 31, 2026 at 2:23 PM)
    <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918827-Delete-Your-Strava-Account>

    Tom, I don't believe that you will delete your account. If it's like
    everything else you've bragged about in RBT, you would probably do it
    wrong, create a mess, and blame someone else for your failure. Without
    Strava, you would also not have any proof of your amazing feats of
    bicycle riding.

    However, if you're going to continue posting your rides to Strava, it
    would be useful to also post which of your 15(?) bicycles you were
    riding at the time. Otherwise, I might be tempted to suggest that you
    only have one bicycle with the appropriate speed and cadence sensors
    attached.

    I suspect he doesn?t know what he?s doing, as it shows up as Commute or MTB >> ride which is due to recording in that category in Garmin, ie have set up 3 >> Commute-Gravel-MTB I occasionally do go for road rides but it?s rare and
    just toggle the commute tag off!




    Roger the ONLY account I have is for road on Strava and Garmin. If Strava shows anything different that isn't because of me.


    It is very much isnrCOt due to Strava which has just taken the profile data that yourCOve selected on your Garmin unit, which then gets pushed to the Strava account, the buck very much stops with you.

    if you select a MTB or commute profile then both Garmin connect and Strava
    will display that data.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 20:26:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>>>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I don?t plan on doing it myself, but
    I?d like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldn?t just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of >>> the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?




    Well, I bought my 830 and 1030 used so the previous ownews might have
    loaded apps on them and Looking at them I can't find any mention of apps
    and how to stop them.

    YourCOve claimed to have reset them a few times, but like the last reply this is down to you setting up Garmin Connect and Strava to upload rides.

    There are various widgets mainly data fields but considering the relative
    low power of such devices they tend to be very simple things.

    Roger Merriman

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Thu Apr 23 19:03:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 23 Apr 2026 20:26:08 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>>>>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I don?t plan on doing it myself, but
    I?d like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldn?t just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of >>>> the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?




    Well, I bought my 830 and 1030 used so the previous ownews might have
    loaded apps on them and Looking at them I can't find any mention of apps
    and how to stop them.

    YouAve claimed to have reset them a few times, but like the last reply this >is down to you setting up Garmin Connect and Strava to upload rides.

    There are various widgets mainly data fields but considering the relative
    low power of such devices they tend to be very simple things.

    Roger Merriman

    I went back through Tom's rides on Strava and noticed that he switches
    back and forth between Garmin Edge 1030 Plus and Garmin Edge 830. For
    example, see rides for Apr 2 and Apr 4: <https://www.strava.com/athletes/27432450?num_entries=10#interval?interval=202614&interval_type=week&chart_type=miles&year_offset=0>
    It would seem that Tom would need to reset and tweak settings on both
    GPS's.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558

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  • From zen cycle@funkmasterxx@hotmail.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 28 05:27:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On 4/23/2026 4:26 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    Am 22.04.2026 um 11:12 schrieb Wolfgang Strobl:
    Am Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:02:57 -0500 schrieb Mark J cleary
    <mcleary08@comcast.net>:

    After my ride which I use a Garmin 945 it loads on Garmin Connect. Then >>>>>> Garmin Connect allows Strava to take the date and post the ride.

    May I ask how this works? I don?t plan on doing it myself, but
    I?d like to know how it works without having to look it up on my
    own. You wouldn?t just give Strava the login credentials for your
    Connect account, would you?
    I think this a push-service, not a pull service. It is also not part of >>>> the Garmin website but of the Garmin Connect app (but shared across
    devices).

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There are no
    connected apps there, though. It says

    "Keine verbundenen Apps

    Du hast Dein Garmin-Konto noch nicht mit
    anderen Apps verbunden. Wenn du das tust, kannst du hier
    verwalten, wie deine Daten mit
    diesen Apps geteilt werden."

    translated:

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account to any
    other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your data is
    shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.


    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?




    Well, I bought my 830 and 1030 used so the previous ownews might have
    loaded apps on them and Looking at them I can't find any mention of apps
    and how to stop them.


    Tom, read the fucking manual for once. Apps aren't loaded on the device,
    which is why you won't find any mention of them. The data sharing to 3rd
    party application programs is done through Garmin Connect or the app
    you're trying to lint to. It's clearly detailed when you type "link
    garmin to strava" in your search engine of choice.


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  • From Ted Heise@theise@panix.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 28 14:23:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:27:11 -0400,
    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2026 4:26 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There
    are no connected apps there, though. It says

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account
    to any other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your
    data is shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.

    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?

    Well, I bought my 830 and 1030 used so the previous ownews
    might have loaded apps on them and Looking at them I can't
    find any mention of apps and how to stop them.

    Tom, read the fucking manual for once. Apps aren't loaded on
    the device, which is why you won't find any mention of them.
    The data sharing to 3rd party application programs is done
    through Garmin Connect or the app you're trying to lint to.
    It's clearly detailed when you type "link garmin to strava" in
    your search engine of choice.

    I think the linking of various accounts and transfer of data is as
    described above, but just wanted to clarify that you can in fact
    install apps on the Garmin units, at least that's the case for my
    Edge 830 as I understand it. I've used Connect IQ to put a Ride
    with GPS app on the Edge. It had to be installed via my paired
    mobile phone using Garmin Connect, but I'm pretty sure the app
    itself sits on the Edge.

    It's actually pretty handy (for my use case). When I've created
    (or found and pinned) a route on my RwGPS account, I can easily
    pull it onto my Garmin using the app (with my mobile nearby).
    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> Gretna, NE, USA
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  • From Catrike Ryder@Soloman@old.bikers.org to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 28 11:29:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 14:23:42 -0000 (UTC), Ted Heise <theise@panix.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:27:11 -0400,
    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2026 4:26 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There
    are no connected apps there, though. It says

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account
    to any other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your
    data is shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.

    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?

    Well, I bought my 830 and 1030 used so the previous ownews
    might have loaded apps on them and Looking at them I can't
    find any mention of apps and how to stop them.

    Tom, read the fucking manual for once. Apps aren't loaded on
    the device, which is why you won't find any mention of them.
    The data sharing to 3rd party application programs is done
    through Garmin Connect or the app you're trying to lint to.
    It's clearly detailed when you type "link garmin to strava" in
    your search engine of choice.

    I think the linking of various accounts and transfer of data is as
    described above, but just wanted to clarify that you can in fact
    install apps on the Garmin units, at least that's the case for my
    Edge 830 as I understand it. I've used Connect IQ to put a Ride
    with GPS app on the Edge. It had to be installed via my paired
    mobile phone using Garmin Connect, but I'm pretty sure the app
    itself sits on the Edge.

    It's actually pretty handy (for my use case). When I've created
    (or found and pinned) a route on my RwGPS account, I can easily
    pull it onto my Garmin using the app (with my mobile nearby).

    I havn't used it, but he Garmin express program on my windows computer
    has an option to "manage the apps" on my Edge 530.

    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman
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  • From Roger Merriman@roger@sarlet.com to rec.bicycles.tech on Tue Apr 28 20:52:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.bicycles.tech

    Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 14:23:42 -0000 (UTC), Ted Heise <theise@panix.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:27:11 -0400,
    zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2026 4:26 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
    cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On Wed Apr 22 12:52:33 2026 Wolfgang Strobl wrote:
    Am Wed, 22 Apr 2026 12:02:13 +0200 schrieb Rolf Mantel
    <news@hartig-mantel.de>:

    In the app settings, I have an section "connected apps".

    Indeed I have that section in the app setting, too. There
    are no connected apps there, though. It says

    "No connected apps. You haven't linked your Garmin account
    to any other apps yet. Once you do, you can manage how your
    data is shared with those apps here."

    I guess you must have one of those apps, in this case the one
    from Strava, and you have to initiate (i.e. link) the process
    from there and then you can allow some data to be shared, on that
    Garmin Connect App tab. I'd hate any kind of automatic sharing.

    This for me listed
    FITSAP, komoot, Pulsatio, Relive, Strava, TK-Fit

    I do not use "Relive" any more, so now I removed the link.

    What data does the TK app allow to share, if might ask?

    Well, I bought my 830 and 1030 used so the previous ownews
    might have loaded apps on them and Looking at them I can't
    find any mention of apps and how to stop them.

    Tom, read the fucking manual for once. Apps aren't loaded on
    the device, which is why you won't find any mention of them.
    The data sharing to 3rd party application programs is done
    through Garmin Connect or the app you're trying to lint to.
    It's clearly detailed when you type "link garmin to strava" in
    your search engine of choice.

    I think the linking of various accounts and transfer of data is as
    described above, but just wanted to clarify that you can in fact
    install apps on the Garmin units, at least that's the case for my
    Edge 830 as I understand it. I've used Connect IQ to put a Ride
    with GPS app on the Edge. It had to be installed via my paired
    mobile phone using Garmin Connect, but I'm pretty sure the app
    itself sits on the Edge.

    It's actually pretty handy (for my use case). When I've created
    (or found and pinned) a route on my RwGPS account, I can easily
    pull it onto my Garmin using the app (with my mobile nearby).

    I havn't used it, but he Garmin express program on my windows computer
    has an option to "manage the apps" on my Edge 530.

    Yup there is itrCOs within a Garmin App Store, generally adds custom data fields and the like, did used to be Komoot app I think which was more
    advanced.

    Though certainly the xx30 stuff is fairly old now now two tech generations
    back and bit sluggish, I have a 830 mind you IrCOve got no real reason to *upgrade* though my sight is getting worse for the mapping so will
    eventually need something with more screen space.

    But not yet!
    --
    C'est bon
    Soloman


    Roger Merriman

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