• How to access Usent & Rec.aviation.soaring after Feb 22, 2024

    From Sarah Anderson@noone@nowhere.org to rec.aviation.soaring on Tue Feb 20 12:46:40 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.aviation.soaring

    After Google abandons Usenet, the web interface https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring will no longer show any updates.
    Google says they will maintain a searchable page for old posts. Currently they have ~58000 posts going back to Jan 1 2000.
    Unfortunate there does not appear to be a way to download the entire history for archival purposes. The newsreader below shows posts
    going back a couple years and no farther.

    There are many free and paid newsgroup readers available. This describes one (Free) solution that works for me.

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    1. Download and install an appropriate (free) version of mozilla thunderbird. You don't have to change whatever you're doing now
    with email. Here: https://www.thunderbird.net/

    2. Go to "https://www.eternal-september.org/" and "register", with your name, and an arbitrary userID and an email E-S can contact
    you with. (Free). This email address, and userID are only used for contacting the E-S server and are not published. Once
    registered, you should receive an email with a generated password and other instructions from E-S.

    3. Start and configure thunderbird. "File -> New -> Newsgroup Account". At this point you will be prompted for a display name and
    email address, which *will* be used for your public messages in the newsgroup. Select the new group you created and you should see a
    page with setup options. Click on the top line "Account settings" and set thunderbird to point to the news server and port mentioned
    in the email from step 2, above. The first time you connect, you will receive a pop-up prompt for the userID/password you
    registered with E-S. If it helps, for configuration on os X I am using
    Server Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Port: 563
    Connection security: SSL/TLS

    To send messages, you will also need a "SMTP" (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) server. Look into your ISP documentation or current
    email setup for what that needs to be. I have read reports that some ISPs block this port - if so, try reader80
    and port 80. They can't block '80', that's the one http uses. I am using my ISP's SMTP with this setup:
    Server Name: smtp.comcast.net
    Port: 465
    Connection security: SSL/TLS
    Authentication method: Normal password
    User Name: MyComcastID@comcast.net

    4. "subscribe" to rec.aviation.soaring. (Free). The key press varies, but on OS X, a control-click on the newsgroup brings up a
    pop-up a menu including "subscribe". You can use this to check the box for R.A.S. and whatever other groups you want.
    may

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  • From Frank Whiteley@frank.whiteley@gmail.com to rec.aviation.soaring on Wed Feb 21 07:05:18 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.aviation.soaring

    On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 11:46:45rC>AM UTC-7, Sarah Anderson wrote:
    After Google abandons Usenet, the web interface https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.soaring will no longer show any updates.
    Google says they will maintain a searchable page for old posts. Currently they have ~58000 posts going back to Jan 1 2000.
    Unfortunate there does not appear to be a way to download the entire history for archival purposes. The newsreader below shows posts
    going back a couple years and no farther.

    There are many free and paid newsgroup readers available. This describes one (Free) solution that works for me.

    ----


    1. Download and install an appropriate (free) version of mozilla thunderbird. You don't have to change whatever you're doing now
    with email. Here: https://www.thunderbird.net/

    2. Go to "https://www.eternal-september.org/" and "register", with your name, and an arbitrary userID and an email E-S can contact
    you with. (Free). This email address, and userID are only used for contacting the E-S server and are not published. Once
    registered, you should receive an email with a generated password and other instructions from E-S.

    3. Start and configure thunderbird. "File -> New -> Newsgroup Account". At this point you will be prompted for a display name and
    email address, which *will* be used for your public messages in the newsgroup. Select the new group you created and you should see a
    page with setup options. Click on the top line "Account settings" and set thunderbird to point to the news server and port mentioned
    in the email from step 2, above. The first time you connect, you will receive a pop-up prompt for the userID/password you
    registered with E-S. If it helps, for configuration on os X I am using Server Name: news.eternal-september.org
    Port: 563
    Connection security: SSL/TLS

    To send messages, you will also need a "SMTP" (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) server. Look into your ISP documentation or current
    email setup for what that needs to be. I have read reports that some ISPs block this port - if so, try reader80
    and port 80. They can't block '80', that's the one http uses. I am using my ISP's SMTP with this setup:
    Server Name: smtp.comcast.net
    Port: 465
    Connection security: SSL/TLS
    Authentication method: Normal password
    User Name: MyCom...@comcast.net

    4. "subscribe" to rec.aviation.soaring. (Free). The key press varies, but on OS X, a control-click on the newsgroup brings up a
    pop-up a menu including "subscribe". You can use this to check the box for R.A.S. and whatever other groups you want.
    may

    --Fin--
    In case of interest in older posts, https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=rec.aviation.soaring&y=NaN&r=NaN&p=1 has posts from 10/13/1992 through September 2022. RAS became a subset of rec.aviation at some point around then. You can support this archiving effort via Patreon if so interested for a little as $5/month. There may be other archival efforts out there.
    Frank Whiteley
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  • From Moshe Braner@moshe.braner@gmail.com to rec.aviation.soaring on Thu Feb 22 10:31:25 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.aviation.soaring

    On 2/21/2024 10:05 AM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
    In case of interest in older posts, https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=rec.aviation.soaring&y=NaN&r=NaN&p=1 has posts from 10/13/1992 through September 2022. RAS became a subset of rec.aviation at some point around then. You can support this archiving effort via Patreon if so interested for a little as $5/month. There may be other archival efforts out there.

    Frank Whiteley


    Interesting. Good to have an independent archive. But with the huge
    volume of past RAS postings, usenetarchives.com, which seems to lack any
    sort of search mechanism, is not really useful. Apparently the Google
    Groups incarnation of RAS is currently the best way to search through
    old postings by keywords. Google promised to keep the old postings
    after today, even though no new postings will be allowed. As long as
    they do that, that is an archive with a good search mechanism. They may
    stop storing the old postings eventually, then the independent archives
    will be the fallback.
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  • From Aldo Cernezzi@cernezzi@tiscali.it to rec.aviation.soaring on Fri Feb 23 01:05:19 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.aviation.soaring

    Back on eternal-septermber after a decade.
    Hi all!
    Aldo Cernezzi


    Il 22/02/2024 16:31, Moshe Braner ha scritto:
    On 2/21/2024 10:05 AM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
    In case of interest in older posts,
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  • From Dan Marotta@dcmarotta@earthlink.net to rec.aviation.soaring on Fri Feb 23 10:03:28 2024
    From Newsgroup: rec.aviation.soaring

    Hi Aldo!

    I've never been anywhere else.-a Old-fashioned, I guess.

    Dan 5J
    On 2/22/24 17:05, Aldo Cernezzi wrote:
    Back on eternal-septermber after a decade.
    Hi all!
    Aldo Cernezzi


    Il 22/02/2024 16:31, Moshe Braner ha scritto:
    On 2/21/2024 10:05 AM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
    In case of interest in older posts,
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