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VIDEO: https://twitter.com/breakingryan1/statuses/1591519673450958850 https://twitter.com/dtxdaily/statuses/1591522536738914305

GRAPHIC VIDEO: A mid-air collision involving two planes near the Dallas Executive Airport, today. The accident took place during the Wings Over
Dallas WWII Airshow at 1:25 p.m., according to Dallas Fire-Rescue. A @FOX4 viewer took this video. @FOX4 is working for more details.\u201d
u David Sentendrey (@David Sentendrey https://twitter.com/DavidSFOX4/statuses/1591522623376211968

Here is a look at the aircraft collision scene at Dallas Executive Airport. There was an air show today. More details soon.\u201d
u DFW Scanner (@DFW Scanner) https://twitter.com/DFWscanner/statuses/1591519373788938249


BREAKING: Horrifying video shows moment WWII-era fighter plane collides with B-17 bomber mid-air during Dallas airshow
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Paul Sacca
November 12, 2022
Twitter @DTXDaily Video Screenshot

Horrifying video shows the moment that two World War II-era airplanes
collided mid-air during an airshow in Texas.

According to initial reports, two planes crashed into each other while
flying above Dallas around 2:30 p.m. EST on Saturday. The planes were reportedly part of the Commemorative Air ForceAs Wings Over Dallas Show.

Video reportedly shows a Bell P-63 Kingcobra fighter plane colliding with a B-17 Flying Fortress bomber as it flew at a low altitude over the airfield
at Dallas Executive Airport. The planes break into pieces and then crash to
the ground. A large and fiery explosion followed and black smoke billowed
into the sky.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) released a statement on the
aircraft collision in Dallas:

A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow at Dallas Executive Airport in
Texas around 1:20 p.m. local time Saturday. At this time, it is unknown how many people were on both aircraft. The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board will investigate. The NTSB will be in charge of the
investigation and will provide additional updates.

There were over 40 fire rescue units deployed to the scene, according to
Dallas Fire-Rescue (DFR).

Witnesses said debris from the crash was now strewn over Highway 67 in
Texas.

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There are no official reports about if the crew survived or if there were
any injuries or casualties on the ground.

ABC News producer Jeffrey Cook reported, "Six people, all crew members, are feared to be dead after a mid-air collision between two WWII-era airplanes
at the Wings Over Dallas airshow today," citing ABC News reporter Nicholas Kerr.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbot said of the airshow crash, "Planes collide during air show at Dallas Executive Airport. The Texas Dept. of Public Safety, Texas Division of Emergency Management, and the Texas Dept. of Transportation are assisting local officials in responding to this tragedy."

(WARNING: The following videos are graphic)

\u201cAir collision involving a B-17 bomber and smaller plane at Dallas airshow\u201d
u Ryan (@Ryan) 1668282833




Dallas air show crash: Official says it's believed 6 people total were on
board
The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and
crashed around 1:20 p.m., the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said in
a statement.

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Updated: 4:57 PM CST November 12, 2022

DALLAS u Editor's note: The Associated Press contributed to this story.

Two historic military planes collided and crashed to the ground Saturday
during a Dallas air show, federal officials said, sending plumes of black
smoke billowing into the sky.

The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and
crashed around 1:20 p.m., the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said in
a statement. The collision occurred during the Commemorative Air Force Wings Over Dallas show.

"Currently we do not have information on the status of the flight crews as emergency responders are working the accident," Leah Block, a spokesperson
for Commemorative Air Force, told ABC News.

Block also told ABC News she believes there were five crew members on the
B-17 and one aboard the P-63. The Houston-based aircraft were not giving
rides to paying customers at the time, she said.

The B-17, an immense four-engine bomber, was a cornerstone of U.S. air power during World War II. The Kingcobra, a U.S. fighter plane, was used mostly by Soviet forces during the war. Most B-17s were scrapped at the end of World
War II and only a handful remain today, largely featured at museums and air shows, according to Boeing.

Debris from the crash fell onto southbound Highway 67, sources told WFAA's Jason Whitely. Both southbound and northbound lanes of Hwy. 67 were shut
down due to the crash, according to Dallas police.

#BREAKING: A mid-air collision has happened at the Wings Over Dallas
event at Dallas Executive Airport (formerly Redbird).

A B-17 is involved. Other aircraft type uncertain.

Debris is on Hwy. 67.
u Jason Whitely (@JasonWhitely) November 12, 2022

MORE:
Debris reportedly on Highway 67 in Oak Cliff from mid-air collision at
the #WingsOverDallas event at Dallas Executive Airport. pic.twitter.com/M5etKQQhrJ
u Jason Whitely (@JasonWhitely) November 12, 2022

Several videos posted on Twitter showed two aircraft appearing to collide in the air before they both rapidly descended, causing a large fire and plumes
of black smoke to billow into the sky.

#BREAKING: New angle of the mid-air collision obtained by @WFAA shows
B-17 and other aircraft flying formations at #WingsOverDallas at 1:21p
today, when it was hit by a P-63 and fell to the ground over the airfield at Dallas Executive Airport (RBD). pic.twitter.com/6NAS93b3re
u Jason Whitely (@JasonWhitely) November 12, 2022

pic.twitter.com/peyMeEMA25
u Giancarlo (@GianKaizen) November 12, 2022

Marvella Garcia, who was working with the show as a brand ambassador for Chevrolet, said she was speaking with someone conducting a survey when the crash happened, and the person she was speaking with said "wow, look at that explosion."

"I looked over and I said 'oh that's just part of the show,'" Garcia said. "There's a show within the show. The planes will cross over and then there's little explosions."

Garcia said she soon realized it was not part of the show. She said she has worked for several shows like this where it is normal to see re-enactments involving planes and explosions.

"Some people just thought it was a re-enactment," Garcia said about the
crowd's reaction to the crash. "Whenever that happened, everyone was just
kind of in shock like, is this really happening or is this just a re-enactment?"

Air show safety - particularly with older military aircraft - has been a concern for years. In 2011, 11 people were killed in Reno, Nevada, when a
P-51 Mustang crashed into spectators. In 2019, a bomber crashed in Hartford, Connecticut, killing seven people. The NTSB said then that it had
investigated 21 accidents since 1982 involving World War II-era bombers, resulting in 23 deaths.

Wings Over Dallas bills itself as oAmericaAs Premier World War II Airshow,o according to a website advertising the event. The show was scheduled for
Nov. 11-13, Veterans Day weekend, and guests were to see more than 40 World
War II-era aircrafts.

Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson tweeted the following statement on Saturday:

"As many of you have now seen, we have had a terrible tragedy in our city
today during an airshow. Many details remain unknown or unconfirmed at this time. The @NTSB has taken command of the crash scene with @DallasPD and @DallasFireRes_q continuing to provide support."

As many of you have now seen, we have had a terrible tragedy in our city today during an airshow. Many details remain unknown or unconfirmed at this time. The @NTSB has taken command of the crash scene with @DallasPD and @DallasFireRes_q continuing to provide support.
u Mayor Eric Johnson (@Johnson4Dallas) November 12, 2022

Texas Hispanic Policy Foundation Chairman and former Republican State Rep. Jason Villalba said he was at the air show today.

"We left at 12:00 but George and I had planned to take a ride on the B-17," Villalba told WFAA. "We didnAt because it was sold out. Wow.o

WFAA has not confirmed whether there were civilians riding on the B-17 when
it crashed. Tickets for on-board tours of the B-17 were on sale online for
the event. The cost for tickets was $495 each.

The FAA released the following statement to WFAA:

A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed
at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow at Dallas Executive Airport in Texas around 1:20 p.m. local time Saturday. At this time, it is unknown how many people
were on both aircraft. The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board will investigate. The NTSB will be in charge of the investigation and will provide additional updates.

The Commemorative Air Force/Wings Over Dallas sent WFAA this statement:

"This afternoon, two aircraft were involved in a mid-air collision at Dallas Executive Airport. The aircraft were a B-17 and P-63 Kingcobra, both out of Houston. Currently we do not have information on the status of the flight
crews as emergency responders are working the accident.The Commemorative Air Force is working with local authorities and the FAA, and the NTSB will
conduct a thorough investigation into the cause of the accident. Any
available information will be posted to www.commemorativeairforce.org"

This is a developing story. Check back for updates. The Associated Press contributed to this story.



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Historic military planes crash midair at Dallas air show, videos show
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Updated November 12, 2022 at 5:12 p.m. EST|Published November 12, 2022 at
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Two planes crashed in midair during an air show Saturday afternoon in
Dallas, the FAA says.

oA Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and
crashed at the Wings Over Dallas Airshow at Dallas Executive Airport in
Texas around 1:20 p.m. local time Saturday,o an FAA statement said. oAt this time, it is unknown how many people were on both aircraft.o

It was unclear how many people were aboard the planes or whether there were injuries.

Dallas Executive Airport, which was hosting the event, said fire and rescue crews were responding. The FAA will assist an investigation led by the
National Transportation Safety Board, the statement said.

The B-17 was called the Texas Raiders, said Leah Block, spokesperson for
Wings Over Dallas organizer Commemorative Air Force.

Videos, reportedly from the area, showed one plane strike another midair
with people on the ground gasping.

pic.twitter.com/peyMeEMA25
u Giancarlo (@GianKaizen) November 12, 2022

Anthony Mendoza, 27, was at the Wings Over Dallas event with a friend when
at about 1:45 p.m. a P-63 fighter plane clipped the back end of a B-17
bomber, breaking its back in half, he said. The front half of the B-17 nosedived into the ground, followed by the other aircraft.

oThey hit the ground and burst into flames,o Mendoza, who sat about 500
yards from the crash, told The Washington Post. oPeople were in shock. There were people crying, holding each other, visibly upset.o

Kris Truskey, 43, who was near the main terminal of the airport with her husband and son, said in a message to The Post that she saw the tail of the B-17 oget sliced offo before the nosedive and a ofireball.o

The crowd took a beat before realizing it wasnAt part of the show, said
Mollie Brock, 25.

oWe all saw it, but it took a second for everyone to think it was a crash.o

She and her husband sat about 100 feet from the runway during the show. A
group of the P-63 planes had been escorting the B-17, she said, while
fireworks simulating bombs blasted.

Paramedics rushed to the scene, Mendoza and Truskey said, and about half an hour later the crowd was asked to leave the venue and the rest of the event
was canceled.

oI just hope everybody involved is okay, and I pray for their family and
their loved ones. We are all hoping for a miracle.o

He said it was overy windy.o

Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson (D) called the crash a oterrible tragedy.o

As many of you have now seen, we have had a terrible tragedy in our city today during an airshow. Many details remain unknown or unconfirmed at this time. The @NTSB has taken command of the crash scene with @DallasPD and @DallasFireRes_q continuing to provide support.
u Mayor Eric Johnson (@Johnson4Dallas) November 12, 2022

In their World War II heyday, according to Boeing, B-17 bombers could accommodate two pilots and eight crew members. About 12,000 were made, and oonly a few B-17s survive today, featured at museums and air shows; most
were scrapped at the end of the war.o

This is a developing story that will be updated.





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https://abcnews.go.com/US/aircraft-collide-crash-wwii-airshow-dallas/story?id=93175961
2 aircraft collide and crash during WWII airshow in Dallas

The incident occurred during Wings Over Dallas at the Dallas Executive
Airport.
ByMeredith Deliso
November 12, 2022, 1:40 PM

A collision occurred at a World War II airshow in Dallas on Saturday, authorities said.

The crash occurred at the event Wings Over Dallas at the Dallas Executive Airport, which was holding flying demonstrations of WWII fighter planes.
PHOTO: Bystander footage captures a cloud of smoke after an incident at a
World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
Bystander footage captures a cloud of smoke after a crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
Christopher Kratovil/Twitter

A Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and crashed around 1:20 p.m. local time, according to the Federal Aviation
Administration. It is unclear how many people were on board the bomber and fighter aircraft, it said.

The airshow, timed to coincide with Veterans Day, is organized by the Commemorative Air Force, an education association focused on American
military aviation.
PHOTO: In this screen grab from a video, a plane flies over a highway before
a crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12,
2022.
In this screen grab from a video, a plane flies over a highway before a
crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022. Efrain Badillo
PHOTO: In this screen grab from a video, a plume of smoke rises after a
crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
In this screen grab from a video, a plume of smoke rises after a crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
Efrain Badillo

"Currently we do not have information on the status of the flight crews as emergency responders are working the accident," Leah Block, a spokesperson
for Commemorative Air Force, said in a statement.

Block told ABC News she believes there were five crew members on the B-17
and one aboard the P-63. The Houston-based aircraft were not giving rides to paying customers at the time, she said.
PHOTO: In this screen grab from a video, people are shown at the scene of a crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
In this screen grab from a video, people are shown at the scene of a crash
at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
WFAA
MORE: 1 person dead in accident at Michigan air show involving jet-powered truck

The airport said there was an "incident" during the show and that Dallas
Fire and Rescue is responding.

Bystanders captured a cloud of black smoke following the crash. Debris from
the planes could also be seen littering a nearby highway.
PHOTO: Bystander footage captures a cloud of smoke after an incident at a
World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
Bystander footage captures a cloud of smoke after a crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
Agnes Calka
PHOTO: In this screen grab from a video, debris is shown on a highway after
a crash at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12,
2022.
In this screen grab from a video, debris is shown on a highway after a crash
at a World War II airshow at Dallas Executive Airport, Nov. 12, 2022.
Efrain Badillo

The FAA and the National Transportation Safety Board are investigating the collision.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott called the incident a "tragedy" while updating on Twitter that state agencies were assisting local officials in the response.

ABC News' Amanda Maile and Nicholas Kerr contributed to this report.

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/federal-authorities-aircraft-collide-dallas-air-show-93177978

Two aircraft collide, crash during Dallas air show

The Federal Aviation Administration says two aircraft have collided at air
show in Dallas
ByLM OTERO and JILL BLEED Associated Press
November 12, 2022, 2:44 PM
Debris from two planes that crashed during an airshow at Dallas Executive Airport are shown in Dallas on Saturday, Nov. 12, 2022. (AP Photo/LM Otero) Debris from two planes that crashed during an airshow at Dallas Executive Airport are shown in Dallas on Saturday, Nov. 12, 2022. (AP Photo/LM Otero)
The Associated Press

DALLAS -- Two historic military planes collided and crashed to the ground Saturday during an air show in Dallas, exploding into a ball of flames and sending plumes of black smoke billowing into the sky. It was unclear how
many people were on board the aircraft or if anyone on the ground was hurt.

Leah Block, a spokesperson for Commemorative Air Force, which produced the Veterans Day weekend show and owned the crashed aircraft, told ABC News she believed there were five crew members on the B-17 Flying Fortress bomber and one aboard the P-63 Kingcobra fighter plane. The Houston-based aircraft were not giving rides to paying customers at the time, she said.

Emergency crews raced to the crash scene at the Dallas Executive Airport,
about 10 miles (16 kilometers) from the cityAs downtown. Live TV news
footage from the scene showed people setting up orange cones around the crumpled wreckage of the bomber, which was in a grassy area.

Anthony Montoya saw the two planes collide.

oI just stood there. I was in complete shock and disbelief,o said Montoya,
27, who attended the air show with a friend. oEverybody around was gasping. Everybody was bursting into tears. Everybody was in shock.o

Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson said the National Transportation Safety Board had taken control of the crash scene with local police and fire providing
support.

oThe videos are heartbreaking,o Johnson said on Twitter.

The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress and a Bell P-63 Kingcobra collided and
crashed around 1:20 p.m., the Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement. The collision occurred during the Commemorative Air Force Wings
Over Dallas show.

Victoria Yeager, the widow of famed Air Force test pilot Chuck Yeager and herself a pilot, was also at the show. She didn't see the collision, but did see the burning wreckage.

oIt was pulverized," said Yeager, 64, who lives in Forth Worth.

"We were just hoping they had all gotten out, but we knew they didnAt,o she said of those on board.

The B-17, an immense four-engine bomber, was a cornerstone of U.S. air power during World War II and is one of the most celebrated warplanes in U.S. history. The Kingcobra, a U.S. fighter plane, was used mostly by Soviet
forces during the war. Most B-17s were scrapped at the end of World War II
and only a handful remain today, largely featured at museums and air shows, according to Boeing.

Several videos posted on social media showed the fighter plane appearing to
fly into the bomber, causing them to quickly crash to the ground and setting off a large ball of fire and smoke.

oIt was really horrific to see," Aubrey Anne Young, 37, of Leander. Texas,
who saw the crash. Her children were inside the hangar with their father
when it occurred. oIAm still trying to make sense of it."

A woman next to Young can be heard crying and screaming hysterically on a
video that Young uploaded to her Facebook page.

Air show safety - particularly with older military aircraft - has been a concern for years. In 2011, 11 people were killed in Reno, Nevada, when a
P-51 Mustang crashed into spectators. In 2019, a bomber crashed in Hartford, Connecticut, killing seven people. The NTSB said then that it had
investigated 21 accidents since 1982 involving World War II-era bombers, resulting in 23 deaths.

Wings Over Dallas bills itself as oAmericaAs Premier World War II Airshow,o according to a website advertising the event. The show was scheduled for
Nov. 11-13, Veterans Day weekend, and guests were to see more than 40 World
War II-era aircrafts. Its Saturday afternoon schedule included flying demonstrations including a obomber paradeo and ofighter escortso featured
the B-17 and P-63.

Videos of previous Wings Over Dallas events depict vintage warplanes flying low, sometimes in close formation, on simulated strafing or bombing runs.
The videos also show the planes performing aerobatic stunts.

The FAA was also launching an investigation, officials said.

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