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On 1/28/2026 5:31 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

Heckuva job, Trumpy:

An Apache helicopter that crashed into the sea on Monday was shot down
by Iran while patrolling over the Strait of Hormuz, President Trump said Tuesday, vowing to "respond to this attack."

"There were two pilots involved, both are safe and uninjured," Mr. Trump wrote. "Nevertheless, the United States must, of necessity, respond to
this attack."

Two U.S. officials tell CBS News initial reports indicate an Iranian
drone apparently took down the Apache helicopter. One of the officials
said it's not clear if the drone deliberately attacked the helicopter.

The two crew members were rescued by a sea drone in the first such
operation ever carried out by the U.S. military, officials told CBS News.

The surface drone rescued the soldiers and transported them to another location on the water where they were then hoisted up to a helicopter
for further transport, according to a U.S. official.

The two U.S. Army soldiers on the Apache had been patrolling waters off
the coast of Oman when the crash happened. They were rescued at about
7:30 p.m. Eastern time on Monday, "within approximately two hours" of
their AH-64 Apache going down.

They were both in stable condition, CENTCOM said in its Tuesday
statement on X, adding, "the cause of the incident is under investigation."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-apache-helicopter-crash-strait-of-hormuz-first-sea-drone-rescue/

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'Cowards... Make Me Sick! ': Trump Gets His Feelings Hurt, Goes Into a Full Tantrum and Crosses the Line u Then MTG Blows the Entire Meltdown to Pieces Posted byBy Maya Boddie | Published on: February 5, 2026

President Donald Trump dropped whatever restraint he had left and let a grievance spiral, turning a familiar loyalty test into something messier
and impossible to walk back.

Then former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene stepped in and snapped the moment
in half. Without softening it or smoothing it over, she cut through the meltdown with just a few words that transformed Trump's tantrum into an
open rupture inside his own political machine.


Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene hit back at Trump in more ways than one in the last week. (Credit: Getty Images)

What began as another Trump loyalty test quickly spiraled into something
more destabilizing after Greene issued a two-part rebuke of the president.

First in a public interview that openly questioned the mythology of
Trumpism itself, then on social media where she went scorched-earth on the entire Republican party for Trump's attack on Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie.

Greene first took aim at Trump and the MAGA movement, comparing it to a cartoon unmasking. "It's kind of like the Scooby-Doo meme where they pull
the mask off of the bad guy. Well, the mask is off and Make America Great Again isn't really about America or the American people, " Greene told
podcast host Kim Iversen.

"There may be a point where people have to come to grips with this is
Donald Trump, " she said. Adding a blunt revelation, "I think people are realizing it was all a lie. It was a big lie for the people. What MAGA is really serving in this administration, who they're serving, is their big donors. "

'Batsut Crazy': Pam Bondi Unravels on Fox News While Trying to Spin DOJ Scandal But Network Quietly Airs Clip That Instantly Blows Up Her Lie

The moment quickly gained traction online. NowThis amplified the clip with
a caption noting that Greene "was one of the first members of Congress to
get radicalized into MAGA and QAnon, and had her faith shattered by working directly with Trump, " emphasizing, "That says a lot. "

Other critics on social media admitted they "still do not trust" Greene,
while others joked that "sense cracked her enamel" after the former Georgia lawmaker pledged MAGA for years.

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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of the first members of Congress to get radicalized into MAGA and Qanon and had her faith shattered by working directly with Trump. That says a lot. pic. twitter. com/i4EFu86tUpu NowThis Impact (@nowthisimpact) February 3, 2026

One reaction captured the surreal nature of the moment: "How fuked has the world become that Marjorie Taylor Greene is now the voice of reason? "

Trump earned another lashing from Greene again after a rambling Truth
Social post earlier this week in which Trump lashed out at Massie, a libertarian-leaning Republican.

Trump suggested Massie had "become a Liberal" because of his recent
marriage, describing his wife as a supposed "Radical Left 'flamethrower.
'" He mocked the speed of their marriage, labeled Massie an "absolutely terrible and unreliable 'Republican, '" and suggested he might be "a RINO,
or maybe even worse. "

Trump went further with his "Republican In Name Only" claims, accusing
Massie of disloyalty and claiming he "never votes for us" and "always goes with the Democrats, " despite Massie's conservative voting record of both Massie and his wife.

The post drew swift backlash online, with critics condemning Trump for targeting a lawmaker's spouse and escalating a policy disagreement into a personal attack.

Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger bluntly wrote, "Good lord Trump is a psycho. " Others called the statement a new low, describing it as
dishonest, petty, and a disservice to the country.

Massie responded on X by defending his wife and tying Trump's outburst to
the demands for transparency around the Epstein files. "So now he's
attacking my wife who voted for him three times, " Massie wrote. He
suggested the rupture stemmed from his role in pressing then-Attorney
General Pam Bondi about the release of additional Epstein files. "Bondi
said there were no more files, " Massie added. "As they say, the rest is history. "

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So now he's attacking my wife who voted for him three times. Maybe someone told him she's actually the one who suggested I ask Pam Bondi in person at
a dinner when we would get Phase 2 of the Epstein files. Bondi said there
were no more files. As they say, the rest is history. pic. twitter. com/czvVJQeKvFu Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) February 2, 2026

Massie has increasingly drawn Trump's ire for co-sponsoring the Epstein
Files Transparency Act, which would require the Justice Department to
release all files related to the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Greene has also publicly supported transparency around the Epstein files, placing her on the same side of the issue as Massie and further
complicating Trump's narrative of betrayal.

Greene moved quickly to condemn Trump's attack on Massie's wife. She began
her blisthering rebuke by calling Trump's treatment of his loyal supporters "crap. "

She once again, accused Trump of catering to wealthy donors and foreign interests over voters but she saved the sharpest bit for colleagues for staying silent: "Shame on every one of you. Cowards. You make me sick. "

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President Trump treats those who support him the most like crap.

Thomas's wife voted for him 3 times. She's not a "radical left
flamethrower. "

And Thomas Massie votes with the President 91% of the time, but won't vote
to protect Epstein's sick pedophile and rapists friends or... https: //t. co/VunjRiChgtu Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene (@FmrRepMTG) February 3, 2026

Several other reactions rejected Trump's framing altogether, pushing back
on the idea that Massie owed loyalty to the former president. "Good! His loyalty should lie with the Constitution and his constituents, " one
commenter wrote, adding that any lawmaker loyal to a president over voters "should be voted out. "

One widely shared post compared Trump's social media presence to "Wonka's factory tour, " filled with bizarre loyalty trials where "everyone fails eventually except him. "

Greene's post drew a lot of eyeballs but the reactions were polarized. "We live in a world where Marjorie Taylor Greene is speaking sense, is
relatable, and advocating for things history will look favorably upon, "
one X user wrote. "That's how fuked up sh-t is. "

Others framed Greene's remarks not as a sudden ideological shift but as confirmation of long-held critiques of Trump's leadership style, noting
that he treats allies "like employees he can boss around" while approaching enemies as "rival businessmen he has to make a deal with. "

How this moment plays out could reshape internal GOP dynamics as Trump's loyalty tests collide with demands for accountability and rising dissent within his own base.

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On 6/9/26 15:03, 5 Plane McCain wrote:

On 1/28/2026 5:31 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:

Heckuva job, Trumpy:

An Apache helicopter that crashed into the sea on Monday was shot down
by Iran while patrolling over the Strait of Hormuz, President Trump said Tuesday, vowing to "respond to this attack."

He did.

Radar sites near the Strait were the prime targets.
Some video can be found.

"There were two pilots involved, both are safe and uninjured," Mr. Trump wrote. "Nevertheless, the United States must, of necessity, respond to
this attack."

Two U.S. officials tell CBS News initial reports indicate an Iranian
drone apparently took down the Apache helicopter. One of the officials
said it's not clear if the drone deliberately attacked the helicopter.

They are a bit unclear whether it was a drone or
a shoulder-launched missile from one of Iran's
little GoFast boats.

The two crew members were rescued by a sea drone in the first such
operation ever carried out by the U.S. military, officials told CBS News.

Interesting. Gotta see what I can find on those.

Ukraine has been using land drones, equipped with
a strong capsule, to recover injured soldiers.
They resist rifle fire and smaller anti-personnel
mines. Sort an armored ATV.

ANYway ... Iran shoots, Trump shoots back. Kind of
the status quo for this "cease-fire".

Iran, as usual, seems to be playing the Delay Game.
At SOME point, no matter WHAT promises, Trump has
go back to heavy blasting. Seems to be the only thing
that 'communicates' with the radicals.

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