• CONFIRMED!!! F-15 Weapons Systems Officer Rescued After Massive Firefight; UPDATED WITH DETAILS

    From No Kings - Right Dems?@his@majesty.uk to rec.aviation.military, talk.politics.guns, sac.politics, alt.politics.trump, talk.politics.misc on Sun Apr 5 10:27:35 2026
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    UPDATED ALREADY!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HFHSS5oXAAAU2tk?format=jpg&name=small

    I'm writing a new post since the last one got so messy. In fact, I've
    had to edit this post twice already, less than an hour after I first
    posted it. Never done that before, I think.

    First things first, neither the Air Force nor CENTCOM has made an
    official announcement, but there are now multiple fairly credible
    reports that the Weapons System Officer from the F-15 shot down in Iran
    has been recovered. His condition is unknown, although several reports
    say he is "safe," implying that he is alive and not mortally wounded.


    Fox News
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    the United States Military pulled off one of the most daring Search and
    Rescue Operations in U.S. History."

    President Trump announces an American service member has been rescued
    from Iran, says the Show more

    Al Jazeera is the first "mainstream" outlet reporting this news as fact,
    and their report cites unnamed US government officials, and not much
    else.


    Al Jazeera Breaking News
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    F-15E in Iran have been recovered after a rCLheavy firefight,rCY but the
    rescue operation is ongoing as teams attempt to safely exfiltrate from
    Iran.

    Fox News just confirmed Al Jazeera's reporting!


    Jennifer Griffin
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    Fox News can confirm that the 2nd crew member of the downed F15E fighter
    jet has been rescued and he and the members of the rescue team that
    extracted him from behind enemy lines in Iran are all safely out of
    Iran. That according to two senior US officials and multiple well Show
    more

    Fox News can confirm that the 2nd crew member of the downed F15E fighter
    jet has been rescued and he and the members of the rescue team that
    extracted him from behind enemy lines in Iran are all safely out of
    Iran. That according to two senior US officials and multiple well placed sources in the region. The Weapons Systems Officer ejected along with
    the pilot when their F15E Strike Eagle they were flying was struck
    Thursday night (early Friday local time) in southwest Iran.

    The WSO used the SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape)
    training to evade capture, hiding on an elevated ridge after hiking away
    from the wreckage and putting out an emergency beacon.) US Special
    Operations rescue forces to include PJs (United States Air Force
    Pararescuemen (PJs) and many layers of elite rescue forces took part in
    the complex, layered mission to both find the crew member and also keep
    the Iranian forces who were hunting the American weapons system operator
    at bay. There are videos that have appeared from local eyewitnesses that
    show what appear to have been injured and dead Iranian members of the
    IRGC and Basij who were looking for the downed American crew member. Fox
    has learned there was fighting on the ground but no Americans killed
    during the operation. rCLIt was a very complex operation to retrieve the
    downed service member,rCY a well placed source briefed on the operation
    told me. Many different branches of the US military were involved in the rescue.

    Fox News can confirm the A10 Warthog that crashed Friday was involved in providing cover for the rescue teams searching for the pilot. That A10
    crashed in Kuwait (first reported by ABC Friday) but the A10 pilot
    managed to eject safely and was rescued. There was destruction of
    aircraft which have sensitive equipment on board, I am told, all part of
    this complex CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) mission.

    The F15E was pretty much destroyed on impact. Two rescue helicopters
    were hit by enemy fire on Friday and crew members onboard were injured
    by enemy fire but managed to make it out of Iran.

    There were a lot of elements to this rescue, I am told.

    Two congressmen, including Elise Stephanik, had already leaked that the
    rescue was complete and successful, likely jumping the gun given that
    the White House wanted the information held close until all the ducks
    were in a row.

    The breaking reports of the safe rescue of the F-15 WSO are a profound
    relief to every American. God Bless this brave servicemember who evaded
    capture in the most challenging circumstances and God Bless the special operations forces who put their lives on the line for this dangerous
    rescue mission.

    It is a deeply engrained patriotic value that Americans will to go to
    the ends of the earth (and beyond!) and do whatever it takes including
    risking it all to bring their fellow Americans home.

    Happy Easter, indeed. ??

    Also reporting the safe return of the airman were two well-connected independent journalists who are deeply tied into the special forces
    community and well-respected by their peers. Their report came hours
    ago, indicating the lag time between success and everybody who needed to
    be informed privately being complete.



    Many reports of massive firefights and deaths of Basij militia have
    flowed in, including from Iranian government sources. A hospital in Iran
    has been treating many people from the fighting and has asked for blood donations, and spoke of martyrs.


    Iranian government sources told civilians to stay at least a kilometer
    away from the area where a battle was raging.



    Lots of us were scouring the internet, gleaning bits and pieces of
    information, and, as usual, X is where you find the best and the worst
    of it, and sorting it out is a herculean task.



    According to U.S. officials cited by multiple outlets, the weapons
    systems officer (WSO) from the F-15E shot down over Iran has now been successfully rescued by U.S. special operations forces.

    rCoThe rescue followed a high-risk operation inside Iranian territory

    rCoBoth crew members are now confirmed to have survived and made contact
    after ejecting ?

    rCoThe mission came amid a race against Iranian forces searching for the
    downed airmen ?

    Earlier reports had indicated:

    rCoOne crew member (pilot) was rescued shortly after the shootdown

    rCoThe WSO remained missing for over 24rCo36 hours during intense search efforts

    Somebody at the USAF Special Forces Recruiting is going to lose their
    job, because a couple of hours ago, they posted about the successful
    rescue, and officials scrambled to disassociate the Air Force from the
    site. There is a reason why the government waits to release
    informationrCoto ensure family members and others who need to know find
    out first from official channels, not rumors on the internet.

    Somebody jumped the gun, fueling the frenzy of people like me searching
    for every scrap of information.


    I guess that is what you would call "malinformation;" it's true, but inconveniently timed.

    Well, now that the president has confirmed this, we can all breathe a
    sigh of relief! Except that guy who is going to get fired.




    The mission to save the crew member employed hundreds of special forces
    troops, dozens of U.S. warplanes, helicopters, and cyber, space and
    other intelligence capabilities.

    U.S. attack aircraft dropped bombs and opened fire on Iranian convoys to
    keep them away from the area where the airman was hiding. As U.S. forces converged on the downed airman, a firefight erupted, two former senior
    military officials briefed on the operation said.

    The airman was equipped with a beacon and a secure communication device
    for coordinating with forces mounting the rescue.

    A senior U.S. military official described the mission to rescue the
    airman as one of the most challenging and complex in the history of U.S. special operations.

    In a final twist after the weapons officer was rescued, two transport
    planes that would carry the commandos and the airmen to safety got stuck
    at a remote base in Iran. Commanders decided to fly in three new planes
    to extract all the U.S. military personnel and the airmen, and they blew
    up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall into Iranian
    hands.

    Well, that tells you something about how America fights wars. Hundreds
    of special operators, and when the C-130s (I assume) got stuck in the
    sand, we flew in 3 more and blew up the other two.


    Awesome. We'll do anything to get our men out.

    Think Vlad the Mad Putin or even Emmanuel Macron would? That would be
    half their air force.

    UPDATE:


    ??A senior Trump administration official told me that prior to locating
    the weapons systems officer and the U.S. military rescue operation, the
    CIA first launched a deception campaign spreading word inside Iran that
    U.S. forces had already found him and were moving him on the ground for exfiltration out of the country

    ??The official said the CIA used its unique capabilities to search for -
    and find - the weapons systems officer. "This was the ultimate needle in
    a haystack but in this case it was a brave American soul inside a
    mountain crevice, invisible but for CIA's capabilities", the official
    said

    ??According to the official the CIA immediately shared the pilot's exact location with the Pentagon, the U.S. military and The White House

    ??The President ordered an immediate rescue mission, which the Pentagon executed, with the CIA continuing to provide real time information in
    support of this mission, the official said

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/04/04/multiple-reports-that-f-15-weap ons-systems-officer-rescued-after-massive-firefight-still-unconfirmed-n38
    13575

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to rec.aviation.military,talk.politics.guns,sac.politics,alt.politics.trump,talk.politics.misc on Sun Apr 5 17:02:48 2026
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    It's good news !!!

    Sounds like it WAS a huge operation - Iranian troops
    were on his ass the whole time. One report says that
    Reaper drones were used when the Iranians got too
    close.

    Iran news will probably fab an AI version of him,
    claim victory :-)

    The long silence seemed ominous, but it was just
    protecting the difficult extraction operation.

    Knowing the lengths the US mil will go to in order
    to recover a downed pilot - must be great for morale.

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.aviation.military,talk.politics.guns,sac.politics,alt.politics.trump,talk.politics.misc on Tue Apr 7 17:23:02 2026
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    "c186282" wrote in message news:Mbacnaa5TKlgUE_0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It's good news !!!

    Sounds like it WAS a huge operation - Iranian troops
    were on his ass the whole time. One report says that
    Reaper drones were used when the Iranians got too
    close.
    -------------------------- https://www.twz.com/news-features/everything-we-now-know-about-the-operation-to-rescue-the-f-15e-wso

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to rec.aviation.military,talk.politics.guns,sac.politics,alt.politics.trump,talk.politics.misc on Tue Apr 7 17:32:51 2026
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    On 4/7/26 17:23, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "c186282"-a wrote in message news:Mbacnaa5TKlgUE_0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It's good news !!!

    Sounds like it WAS a huge operation - Iranian troops
    were on his ass the whole time. One report says that
    Reaper drones were used when the Iranians got too
    close.
    -------------------------- https://www.twz.com/news-features/everything-we-now-know-about-the- operation-to-rescue-the-f-15e-wso

    A large and impressive operation. Should improve
    pilot morale considerably to see how important
    this admin sees them.

    Someone asked why a colonel was serving as the
    weapons officer. Could be several reasons. The
    mission may have been as much intel as attack.
    Colonels sometimes like to "keep their hand in"
    also. Finally, one ride and he'd get another campaign
    ribbon for his chest, though it doesn't sound like
    this guy was a petty asshole.

    In any case a TOUGH old bird !

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  • From Jim Wilkins@muratlanne@gmail.com to rec.aviation.military,talk.politics.guns,sac.politics,alt.politics.trump,talk.politics.misc on Tue Apr 7 20:33:15 2026
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    "c186282" wrote in message news:yTOdnTiOmdmK5Uj0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com...

    On 4/7/26 17:23, Jim Wilkins wrote:
    "c186282" wrote in message news:Mbacnaa5TKlgUE_0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com...

    It's good news !!!

    Sounds like it WAS a huge operation - Iranian troops
    were on his ass the whole time. One report says that
    Reaper drones were used when the Iranians got too
    close.
    -------------------------- https://www.twz.com/news-features/everything-we-now-know-about-the- operation-to-rescue-the-f-15e-wso

    A large and impressive operation. Should improve
    pilot morale considerably to see how important
    this admin sees them.

    Someone asked why a colonel was serving as the
    weapons officer. Could be several reasons. The
    mission may have been as much intel as attack.
    Colonels sometimes like to "keep their hand in"
    also. Finally, one ride and he'd get another campaign
    ribbon for his chest, though it doesn't sound like
    this guy was a petty asshole.
    In any case a TOUGH old bird !
    --------------------------------

    The Bat-21 mission rescued a Lieutenant Colonel. Full Colonel is usually the highest rank to serve as pilot, though some Generals remain active. https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/4393019/general-officers-forge-flying-proficiency-at-nellis-afb/



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  • From Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS]@steve.silverwood@gmail.com to rec.aviation.military on Fri Apr 17 12:23:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.aviation.military

    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 10:27:35 +0200, No Kings - Right Dems?
    <his@majesty.uk> wrote:

    UPDATED ALREADY!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HFHSS5oXAAAU2tk?format=jpg&name=small

    I'm writing a new post since the last one got so messy. In fact, I've
    had to edit this post twice already, less than an hour after I first
    posted it. Never done that before, I think.

    First things first, neither the Air Force nor CENTCOM has made an
    official announcement, but there are now multiple fairly credible
    reports that the Weapons System Officer from the F-15 shot down in Iran
    has been recovered. His condition is unknown, although several reports
    say he is "safe," implying that he is alive and not mortally wounded.


    Fox News
    @FoxNews
    -+
    Follow
    the United States Military pulled off one of the most daring Search and >Rescue Operations in U.S. History."

    President Trump announces an American service member has been rescued
    from Iran, says the Show more

    Al Jazeera is the first "mainstream" outlet reporting this news as fact,
    and their report cites unnamed US government officials, and not much
    else.


    Al Jazeera Breaking News
    @AJENews
    -+
    Follow
    F-15E in Iran have been recovered after a rCLheavy firefight,rC? but the >rescue operation is ongoing as teams attempt to safely exfiltrate from
    Iran.

    Fox News just confirmed Al Jazeera's reporting!


    Jennifer Griffin
    @JenGriffinFNC
    -+
    Follow
    Fox News can confirm that the 2nd crew member of the downed F15E fighter
    jet has been rescued and he and the members of the rescue team that
    extracted him from behind enemy lines in Iran are all safely out of
    Iran. That according to two senior US officials and multiple well Show
    more

    Fox News can confirm that the 2nd crew member of the downed F15E fighter
    jet has been rescued and he and the members of the rescue team that
    extracted him from behind enemy lines in Iran are all safely out of
    Iran. That according to two senior US officials and multiple well placed >sources in the region. The Weapons Systems Officer ejected along with
    the pilot when their F15E Strike Eagle they were flying was struck
    Thursday night (early Friday local time) in southwest Iran.

    The WSO used the SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape)
    training to evade capture, hiding on an elevated ridge after hiking away
    from the wreckage and putting out an emergency beacon.) US Special
    Operations rescue forces to include PJs (United States Air Force >Pararescuemen (PJs) and many layers of elite rescue forces took part in
    the complex, layered mission to both find the crew member and also keep
    the Iranian forces who were hunting the American weapons system operator
    at bay. There are videos that have appeared from local eyewitnesses that
    show what appear to have been injured and dead Iranian members of the
    IRGC and Basij who were looking for the downed American crew member. Fox
    has learned there was fighting on the ground but no Americans killed
    during the operation. rCLIt was a very complex operation to retrieve the >downed service member,rC? a well placed source briefed on the operation
    told me. Many different branches of the US military were involved in the >rescue.

    Fox News can confirm the A10 Warthog that crashed Friday was involved in >providing cover for the rescue teams searching for the pilot. That A10 >crashed in Kuwait (first reported by ABC Friday) but the A10 pilot
    managed to eject safely and was rescued. There was destruction of
    aircraft which have sensitive equipment on board, I am told, all part of
    this complex CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue) mission.

    The F15E was pretty much destroyed on impact. Two rescue helicopters
    were hit by enemy fire on Friday and crew members onboard were injured
    by enemy fire but managed to make it out of Iran.

    There were a lot of elements to this rescue, I am told.

    Two congressmen, including Elise Stephanik, had already leaked that the >rescue was complete and successful, likely jumping the gun given that
    the White House wanted the information held close until all the ducks
    were in a row.

    The breaking reports of the safe rescue of the F-15 WSO are a profound
    relief to every American. God Bless this brave servicemember who evaded >capture in the most challenging circumstances and God Bless the special >operations forces who put their lives on the line for this dangerous
    rescue mission.

    It is a deeply engrained patriotic value that Americans will to go to
    the ends of the earth (and beyond!) and do whatever it takes including >risking it all to bring their fellow Americans home.

    Happy Easter, indeed. ??

    Also reporting the safe return of the airman were two well-connected >independent journalists who are deeply tied into the special forces
    community and well-respected by their peers. Their report came hours
    ago, indicating the lag time between success and everybody who needed to
    be informed privately being complete.



    Many reports of massive firefights and deaths of Basij militia have
    flowed in, including from Iranian government sources. A hospital in Iran
    has been treating many people from the fighting and has asked for blood >donations, and spoke of martyrs.


    Iranian government sources told civilians to stay at least a kilometer
    away from the area where a battle was raging.



    Lots of us were scouring the internet, gleaning bits and pieces of >information, and, as usual, X is where you find the best and the worst
    of it, and sorting it out is a herculean task.



    According to U.S. officials cited by multiple outlets, the weapons
    systems officer (WSO) from the F-15E shot down over Iran has now been >successfully rescued by U.S. special operations forces.

    rCoThe rescue followed a high-risk operation inside Iranian territory

    rCoBoth crew members are now confirmed to have survived and made contact >after ejecting ?

    rCoThe mission came amid a race against Iranian forces searching for the >downed airmen ?

    Earlier reports had indicated:

    rCoOne crew member (pilot) was rescued shortly after the shootdown

    rCoThe WSO remained missing for over 24rCo36 hours during intense search >efforts

    Somebody at the USAF Special Forces Recruiting is going to lose their
    job, because a couple of hours ago, they posted about the successful
    rescue, and officials scrambled to disassociate the Air Force from the
    site. There is a reason why the government waits to release
    informationrCoto ensure family members and others who need to know find
    out first from official channels, not rumors on the internet.

    Somebody jumped the gun, fueling the frenzy of people like me searching
    for every scrap of information.


    I guess that is what you would call "malinformation;" it's true, but >inconveniently timed.

    Well, now that the president has confirmed this, we can all breathe a
    sigh of relief! Except that guy who is going to get fired.




    The mission to save the crew member employed hundreds of special forces >troops, dozens of U.S. warplanes, helicopters, and cyber, space and
    other intelligence capabilities.

    U.S. attack aircraft dropped bombs and opened fire on Iranian convoys to
    keep them away from the area where the airman was hiding. As U.S. forces >converged on the downed airman, a firefight erupted, two former senior >military officials briefed on the operation said.

    The airman was equipped with a beacon and a secure communication device
    for coordinating with forces mounting the rescue.

    A senior U.S. military official described the mission to rescue the
    airman as one of the most challenging and complex in the history of U.S. >special operations.

    In a final twist after the weapons officer was rescued, two transport
    planes that would carry the commandos and the airmen to safety got stuck
    at a remote base in Iran. Commanders decided to fly in three new planes
    to extract all the U.S. military personnel and the airmen, and they blew
    up the two disabled planes rather than have them fall into Iranian
    hands.

    Well, that tells you something about how America fights wars. Hundreds
    of special operators, and when the C-130s (I assume) got stuck in the
    sand, we flew in 3 more and blew up the other two.


    Awesome. We'll do anything to get our men out.

    Think Vlad the Mad Putin or even Emmanuel Macron would? That would be
    half their air force.

    UPDATE:


    ??A senior Trump administration official told me that prior to locating
    the weapons systems officer and the U.S. military rescue operation, the
    CIA first launched a deception campaign spreading word inside Iran that
    U.S. forces had already found him and were moving him on the ground for >exfiltration out of the country

    ??The official said the CIA used its unique capabilities to search for -
    and find - the weapons systems officer. "This was the ultimate needle in
    a haystack but in this case it was a brave American soul inside a
    mountain crevice, invisible but for CIA's capabilities", the official
    said

    ??According to the official the CIA immediately shared the pilot's exact >location with the Pentagon, the U.S. military and The White House

    ??The President ordered an immediate rescue mission, which the Pentagon >executed, with the CIA continuing to provide real time information in
    support of this mission, the official said

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/04/04/multiple-reports-that-f-15-weap >ons-systems-officer-rescued-after-massive-firefight-still-unconfirmed-n38 >13575

    [I kept the whole message in the "quoted" info just in case someone
    reading this missed the original....]

    One of the things I am most proud of is my service in association with
    the Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Service (ARRS), part of Military
    Airlift Command (MAC, now Air Mobility Command) back then. I say "in association with" because I was in only a minuscule part of the whole
    picture: I was in aircraft maintenance, so I helped to keep their
    aircraft ready to fly whenever needed.

    The PJs (pararescuemen) assigned to the 71st ARRS were quartered in
    the same barracks building at Elmendorf AFB as we were, when I was
    stationed there back in 1977-1980, so we interacted on several
    occasions (usually at the chow hall). A finer bunch of people you
    will never find on this Earth; some come close, but none compare.
    These guys spend TWO YEARS in their training, just to become their
    equivalent of "apprentice" level. By that time, they're qualified to
    do emergency surgery of just about any kind short of cracking open the
    brain pan, in a variety of environments from ocean and jungle to
    desert and arctic conditions. "Respect" doesn't even begin to cover
    how I felt about serving with these men (there were no women PJs at
    the time, not sure about now), more like "awe."

    I also was honored to be allowed to volunteer as an extra pair of eyes
    in an HC-130N when a search in Alaska was initiated to look for a
    downed civilian helicopter near the North Slope. I'll never forget
    that experience. TWELVE HOURS in a C-130 after pulling a previous
    graveyard shift of eight hours FIXING said C-130 and others on the
    flight line made for one tired guy by the time we returned to
    Elmendorf AFB. We were unable to locate the aircraft, a Bell 47
    helicopter similar to those you see on "M*A*S*H" episodes bringing
    combat wounded to the 4077th, in the dead of winter makes for
    something damned difficult to spot on a GOOD day, much less in a
    background of nothing but WHITE.

    And the PJs on board that flight were ready to jump if we found it,
    too, to render aid to any survivors. I understand it was eventually
    found, but there were no survivors of the crash.

    [I also served as a volunteer in Civil Air Patrol for about 12 years
    total, but that's another story for another day....]
    --
    //Steve//
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  • From Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS]@steve.silverwood@gmail.com to rec.aviation.military on Fri Apr 17 12:36:33 2026
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    On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 17:32:51 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    A large and impressive operation. Should improve
    pilot morale considerably to see how important
    this admin sees them.

    Just the knowledge of the fact that the PJs and other Special
    Operators, plus the combined resources of all branches of the military
    -- including the Space Force as I have no doubt orbital reconnaisance
    was brought into play -- are ready to be brought to bear on any search
    for a downed pilot (or "Naval Aviators" in the case of the Navy/USMC
    as they prefer) is enough to keep those men and women flying.

    "No man left behind" is not just a motto to these people. It's
    everything. Even the motto of the Aerospace Rescue and Recovery
    Service (ARRS) speaks for itself: "These things we do, that others
    may live."

    I think another quote is in order here: "Greater love has no one than
    this: to lay down one's life for one's friends." (John 15:13 NIV)

    Someone asked why a colonel was serving as the
    weapons officer. Could be several reasons. The
    mission may have been as much intel as attack.
    Colonels sometimes like to "keep their hand in"
    also. Finally, one ride and he'd get another campaign
    ribbon for his chest, though it doesn't sound like
    this guy was a petty asshole.

    Doesn't matter why, and we'll probably never know until he writes his inevitable memoirs (which I will RUN out and buy if I ever hear of it
    being published without being classified!), just suffice it to say
    that they wouldn't have sent him on that mission without ample
    justification.

    In any case a TOUGH old bird !

    Agreed 150%!
    --
    //Steve//
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