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Trump Just Outmaneuvered the "British Empire" at Hormuz
A viral breakdown has exposed a subtle but devastating dynamic unfolding
in the Persian Gulf. In a single stroke of economic and military genius,
the Trump administration appears to have neutralized one of the United Kingdom's most ancient and powerful geopolitical tools, potentially
"crushing" a key ally's economy to secure American energy supremacy.
The crisis began when LloydrCOs of LondonrCothe world's only insurance
market large enough to back the staggering value of the global oil fleetrCoabruptly announced it would no longer insure any vessel transiting
the Strait of Hormuz.
This move, according to Armes, would have effectively grounded the 20 to
30 percent of the worldrCOs oil that flows through that 21-mile chokepoint. "Did Trump just cripple the British Empire."
Let me explain. This is the Strait of Hormuz. You've been hearing about
it on the news. About 20 to 30 percent of all oil in the world goes
through this strait. Here is what you don't know.
In order to go through this strait, ships have to have insurance. There
is only one company in the entire globe that is big enough to insure all
the oil tankers going through this strait. That company is LloydrCOs of London.
It is responsible for about 2 percent of the British EmpirerCOs GDP, over
a $40 billion contribution to the United Kingdom and 50,000 jobs, but
itrCOs also a geopolitical tool for the UK.
And they decided they were no longer going to insure anyone going
through the Strait of Hormuz, which would have halted all energy
shipments. It was kind of a giant fuck you to Donald Trump to confuse
and distort the energy markets and make America look bad.
But Trump said that the United States government is going to start
insuring these shipping companies. Not only that, they will provide
personal escorts for these boats with the U.S. Navy.
Just in a matter of minutes, the United States has shut down one of the largest geopolitical tools the United Kingdom has had all the way back
to the 1600s.
This not only weakens their geopolitical leverage but is going to affect
their economy, as well. It's not like LloydrCOs can just magically come
back online.
As soon as the United States is insuring these tankers, which, by the
way, were the reason tankers could even go through that strait anyway
because of the United States military, it's not like these tankers are
going to go back to LloydrCOs of London insurance.
TheyrCOre probably going to stay with the United States, and Trump knows
this.
A very subtle move but incredibly important.

some comments:

Joseph D. Covington
He didnrCOt rCLkillrCY the British Empire. He just picked up the ball they dropped and ran for a touchdown.

Vinh Dinh
Joseph D. Covington Of course, it's not a "kill" yet. But I happily take
it one touchdown at a time EfyC. The game is not over yet and President
Trump is a doer not a talker.

Jerry B Humphrey
Genius!!!

David Johnson
Joseph D. Covington The Empire ceased to be when Margaret Thatcher
stepped down as PM & when they reduced the navy to a coast guard status.

Mark Aguilar
Joseph D. Covington Gullible people here! This never happened! Lol!

Dean Speidel
Mark Aguilar Lloyds never cancelled insurance? Are you sure? Better check.

Mark Aguilar
Dean Speidel No, now google it

Dean Speidel
Mark Aguilar Mark, I worked in Corporate America for years. I learned
that companies never say rCLnorCY outright. They just double their prices.
It means the same thing.

Mark Aguilar
Dean Speidel The lie is trump escorting and insuring oil tankers!

Mark Pariseau
LetrCOs get these ships moving! As a retired destroyer sailor, I know what these can do. Get them going, shipmates!

John Eaton
Well, when you trade mostly academics, lawyers and activists and get a
World class entrepreneur with a big brain , a fire in his soul and heart
for his country you're going get our own street fighter. He can be an
SOB sometimes but he's OUR SOB. Embrace him and stay off the tracks. The
train is coming.

Jackson Chapman
Not wishing the UK any harm but with recent events and Starmer's recent statements now I'm beginning to wonder just how much of an ally they
really are and probably others are wondering that too. We shall see.

Jackson Chapman
Not wishing the UK any harm but with recent events and Starmer's recent statements now I'm beginning to wonder just how much of an ally they
really are and probably others are wondering that too. We shall see.

Susan McGuire Adams
Jackson Chapman -unfortunately, the UK is overrun with the Islamic
regime nowrCa The UK has lost control.

Thomas Brooks
Jackson Chapman about the same as the USA was an allie during the
Falklands war. The worlds doesnt see the USA as a stable friend, only
someone that acts in self interest regardsless of the outcome to others.

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Steven Keith
He always seems to be at least one step ahead of everyone else. ItrCOs fun
to watch.

David Jackson
Steven Keith only if yourCOre too ignorant to understand global politics
and how things work. Only true morons think herCOs one step ahead.

David Hewitt
David Jackson please enlighten usrCa.where is he falling behind? WerCOll
wait. Efn+rCirOeN+A

Erik Wallgren
He canrCOt. HerCOs a fucking internet troll with a Facebook degree in geopolitics because CNN has told him Trump is bad

Author
Forsythe Clay
David Jackson I'm not even sure he's real a lot of times there's just AI
Bots posting this anti-trump bullshit

Jeffrey Horsley
David Jackson true herCOs about ten steps ahead Efye

Karen Tyler
David Jackson hate much????



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"a425couple" wrote in message news:ZWXqR.264$5gb2.118@fx10.iad...

Trump Just Outmaneuvered the "British Empire" at Hormuz
...
But Trump said that the United States government is going to start
insuring these shipping companies. Not only that, they will provide
personal escorts for these boats with the U.S. Navy.
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The mechanism already exists: https://www.dfc.gov/media/press-releases/dfc-announces-20b-plan-maritime-reinsurance-gulf

"This revolving insurance offering will apply only to vessels that meet the criteria.
Insurance will focus on Hull & Machinery and Cargo to start."

Other requirements could clash with the differences between US and international standards, partly driven by union demands, this is an example:

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/jones-act-burden-america-can-no-longer-bear?

$20 billion is $60 per person from 330 million of us.

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On 3/7/26 09:38, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"a425couple"-a wrote in message news:ZWXqR.264$5gb2.118@fx10.iad...

Trump Just Outmaneuvered the "British Empire" at Hormuz
...
But Trump said that the United States government is going to start
insuring these shipping companies. Not only that, they will provide
personal escorts for these boats with the U.S. Navy.
----------------
The mechanism already exists: https://www.dfc.gov/media/press-releases/dfc-announces-20b-plan- maritime-reinsurance-gulf

"This revolving insurance offering will apply only to vessels that meet
the criteria.
Insurance will focus on Hull & Machinery and Cargo to start."

Other requirements could clash with the differences between US and international standards, partly driven by union demands, this is an
example:

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/jones-act-burden- america-can-no-longer-bear?

$20 billion is $60 per person from 330 million of us.

Do you know, or can you find:
What is the total value of one of the largest tankers
when it is sailing out of St. of Hormuz fully loaded?
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"a425couple" wrote in message news:rGlrR.631$NDyd.224@fx13.iad...

Do you know, or can you find:
What is the total value of one of the largest tankers
when it is sailing out of St. of Hormuz fully loaded?
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Google's AI says a new VLCC can cost $160 million with its 2 million barrel cargo worth the same, (at $80/bbl; it's now over $100). For comparison one
new Boeing 787 can cost $300 million or more. Larger tankers have been
built, over 3 million barrels, but they were too large for many routes and became moored storage. Wiki says the average transport cost per gallon is 2
to 3 cents.

At ~$400 million apiece Trump's $20 billion fund could cover 50 losses, each one costing us $1.20.

Scientists and engineers become used to large numbers, I have a resistance meter that can measure 1 billion Ohms at 1000 Volts. When communicating with distant spacecraft at the speed of light the round trip delay is quite noticeable. I knew that in theory but was still surprised to see it.

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On 3/8/26 18:29, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"a425couple"-a wrote in message news:rGlrR.631$NDyd.224@fx13.iad...

Do you know, or can you find:
What is the total value of one of the largest tankers
when it is sailing out of St. of Hormuz fully loaded?
----------------------

Google's AI says a new VLCC can cost $160 million with its 2 million
barrel cargo worth the same, (at $80/bbl; it's now over $100). For comparison one new Boeing 787 can cost $300 million or more. Larger
tankers have been built, over 3 million barrels, but they were too large
for many routes and became moored storage. Wiki says the average
transport cost per gallon is 2 to 3 cents.

At ~$400 million apiece Trump's $20 billion fund could cover 50 losses,
each one costing us $1.20.

Well then, what is the hold-up!! ?

Form up that wagon train - upps, I meant convoy,
and get er rolling, err sailing.
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"a425couple" wrote in message news:8wDrR.3593$Lvlc.1019@fx15.iad...

On 3/8/26 18:29, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"a425couple" wrote in message news:rGlrR.631$NDyd.224@fx13.iad...

Do you know, or can you find:
What is the total value of one of the largest tankers
when it is sailing out of St. of Hormuz fully loaded?
----------------------

Google's AI says a new VLCC can cost $160 million with its 2 million
barrel cargo worth the same, (at $80/bbl; it's now over $100). For comparison one new Boeing 787 can cost $300 million or more. Larger
tankers have been built, over 3 million barrels, but they were too large
for many routes and became moored storage. Wiki says the average transport cost per gallon is 2 to 3 cents.

At ~$400 million apiece Trump's $20 billion fund could cover 50 losses,
each one costing us $1.20.

Well then, what is the hold-up!! ?

Form up that wagon train - upps, I meant convoy,
and get er rolling, err sailing.

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The crews need to be insured against being blown up. Defense against the Houthis hasn't been 100% effective and may not be possible against submerged drones.


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