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Stephen Harding <smharding@verizon.net> wrote:

I think Greenland will become more and more valuable as polar ice
melts and the northwest passage gets more and more business, not to
mention its natural resources becoming more available.

But that's a ways off. Of course China in particular looks farther
ahead than American leaders have for quite some time.

And of course that would only happen if climate change is real... which Demented Donnie has repeatedly denied...
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"Juergen Nieveler" wrote in message news:XnsB3DA60922840Fjuergennieveler@nieveler.org...

Stephen Harding <smharding@verizon.net> wrote:

I think Greenland will become more and more valuable as polar ice
melts and the northwest passage gets more and more business, not to
mention its natural resources becoming more available.

But that's a ways off. Of course China in particular looks farther
ahead than American leaders have for quite some time.

And of course that would only happen if climate change is real... which Demented Donnie has repeatedly denied...
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Juergen Nieveler

Ceterum censeo NSA esse delendam
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After 3 million years ago the warmer Earth began oscillating between colder than now and warmer than now for reasons we can theorize but not solidly prove. Unless you are rigidly locked into self-serving leftist dogma you can see that the connection between assumed cause and observed effect is uncertain, it exists in computer models chosen to prove that it exists, but can't accurately predict tomorrow's weather so just deny that they should.

Water vapor is the main greenhouse gas, CO2 contributes only a small percentage but it can be blamed on humans while water can't, though it's
used for deceitful pollution images. "Peak Oil" alarmism proved false and something else that weakens Capitalist societies must replace it.

For those remaining with open minds:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliocene
"By 3.3rCo3.0 Ma, during the Mid-Piacenzian Warm Period (mPWP), global average temperature was 2rCo3 -#C higher than today, while carbon dioxide levels were the same as today (400 ppm)."
The same or somewhat higher.

The northern shore of Greenland was forested as recently as the early rise
of humanity, with still detectable organic remnants preserved by subsequent ice ages.
https://www.livescience.com/7331-ancient-greenland-green.html

Continental drift can't be blamed, it has been only a few dozen kilometers
in the last million years. Something(s) made the climate both hotter and colder than we have personally seen. Earth has negative feedback mechanisms that moderate change and positive ones that accelerate it, and we haven't
been closely watching and especially measuring the changes long enough to separate and understand them, the rates of change are substantially buried
in short term noise and interactions. Here in New England there has been little overall change in a century though a lot of yearly variation, for NH the extremes were in 1911 and 1885. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_territory_temperature_extremes

We have evidence that the Sahara had lakes and rivers as late as early recorded history but lack data from there and but can only guess why the
rain stopped.

By some geological evidence we are overdue for another Ice Age.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major-General%27s_Song

https://genius.com/Gilbert-and-sullivan-when-i-was-a-lad-annotated

Although at West Point Patton had the reputation of never setting foot in
the library (which is close to his statue) he used his knowledge of Caesar's Gallic War to choose routes where the soil was firm enough for wheels and treads, and raced with Caesar to quickly bridge the Rhine. In Sicily he confirmed the entasis (optical curvature correction) of ancient temple entrance steps by placing his helmet on one end and noting that it wasn't visible from the other.

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On 1/18/26 20:14, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Peter Stickney"-a wrote in message news:10kjhp1$3p6rv$1@dont-email.me...

On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 23:00:55 -0500, Jim Wilkins wrote:

The 1200+ Me-262 jet fighters they build made little difference.

There may have been 1200 Me 262 airframes listed as being rolled out of
the factories, but the most that the Germans were ever able to get in the
air at one time was about 50-60 on one day in April 1945.

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Eisenhower's advantage was an understanding of economics and production vulnerability that the classically and militarily trained British
officers lacked. He resisted the British demand that we should stop attacking production facilities during the day and join them in bombing cities at night. They were very put off that we could succeed where they
had warned us not to repeat their failure.

Very interesting comment.

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"a425couple" wrote in message news:ENReR.1145295$CZPd.1066149@fx18.iad...

On 1/18/26 20:14, Jim Wilkins wrote:

Eisenhower's advantage was an understanding of economics and production vulnerability that the classically and militarily trained British officers lacked. He resisted the British demand that we should stop attacking production facilities during the day and join them in bombing cities at night. They were very put off that we could succeed where they had warned
us not to repeat their failure.

Very interesting comment.
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This was my source for some of that: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2MKhm99hgpBrV79K47Mycbh/persian-poets-need-not-apply-29-march-2002

"But whereas Mr Macmillan found Eisenhower deficient I imagine in quotations from Virgil and Wordsworth, he was woefully ill-educated in mathematics, engineering, strategy and tactics, especially the economics of industrial warfare about which Eisenhower's prescience had made General Marshall insist he become supreme commander."


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