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~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:

Is any one else getting sick of hearing pudits waffling on about how
the 2026 PU's power comes 50/50 from the ICE and the battery (via the
MGU)? It's not a PHEV FFS, all of the power is coming from the
ICE. Some of it is pushed into a battery and then deployed by the MGU
but it all comes from the ICE.

All the power's coming from the sun. Some of it is pushed into trees and dinousaurs and then refined into what goes in the ICU's fuel tank, but
it all comes from the sun.

I've watched the Sky 1 hour wrap-ups of the three days testing so far
(as well as Ted's notebooks) and they keep prattling on about the new
regs. Not once has any of the multitude of pundits mentioned or
explained that all of the power actually comes from the ICE.

Ok, as you were. Rant over. ;)

Technically, it's even worse for your stance, as they're more correct
than you appreciate. Power is instantanious delivery of energy, the rate
at which it is being delivered. Once you're buffering that in some form
of storage, it doesn't even make sense to talk about its power. Stored
stuff is stored, while it's stored its power is zero. It's only at the
point of release of that energy that you can start talking about power
again, and that's entirely a function of the batteries the electric
motors, and the copper cables between them.

Races start in only a matter of days - time for the rants to begin! :)

Phil
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On 3/03/2026 3:44 am, Phil Carmody wrote:

~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:

Is any one else getting sick of hearing pudits waffling on about how
the 2026 PU's power comes 50/50 from the ICE and the battery (via the
MGU)? It's not a PHEV FFS, all of the power is coming from the
ICE. Some of it is pushed into a battery and then deployed by the MGU
but it all comes from the ICE.

All the power's coming from the sun. Some of it is pushed into trees and dinousaurs and then refined into what goes in the ICU's fuel tank, but
it all comes from the sun.

Yep. I've always maintained that hydro power is in fact solar power by proxy (the sun drives the
water cycle after all). The only power sources I'm still not 100% sure of originating with our sun
are geothermal and nuclear. However the power sources for both were ultimately stars...

I've watched the Sky 1 hour wrap-ups of the three days testing so far
(as well as Ted's notebooks) and they keep prattling on about the new
regs. Not once has any of the multitude of pundits mentioned or
explained that all of the power actually comes from the ICE.

Ok, as you were. Rant over. ;)

Technically, it's even worse for your stance, as they're more correct
than you appreciate. Power is instantanious delivery of energy, the rate
at which it is being delivered. Once you're buffering that in some form
of storage, it doesn't even make sense to talk about its power. Stored
stuff is stored, while it's stored its power is zero. It's only at the
point of release of that energy that you can start talking about power
again, and that's entirely a function of the batteries the electric
motors, and the copper cables between them.

Yeah yeah... You out-nerded me! I have a background in the sciences but must admit that it's not
used a lot these days. With regard to cars I tend to leave my scholar hat off and conflate power
and energy. Ma bad.

Races start in only a matter of days - time for the rants to begin! :)

I'm waiting for the people who bemoaned the change in exhaust note from N/A cars to turbo cars to
realise that with this formula hearing an ICE revving won't equate to the driver powering the
wheels. They could well sound like a generator on wheels, albeit going through a gearbox (other
than in braking zones).

Cheers.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville.
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