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  • Both McLarens Disqualified from Las Vegas GP

    From flemos@flemos@mail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 23 07:40:26 2025
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    https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cr7l5v2exv0o

    Lando Norris and McLaren team-mate Oscar Piastri have been disqualified
    from the Las Vegas Grand Prix for technical infringements.

    The skid blocks on both cars were found after the race to be less than
    the minimum depth allowed in the rules.

    This shakes the hell out of the championship. Can Max come back to win
    the title?
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  • From flemos@flemos@mail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 23 09:02:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    flemos wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cr7l5v2exv0o

    Lando Norris and McLaren team-mate Oscar Piastri have been disqualified
    from the Las Vegas Grand Prix for technical infringements.

    The skid blocks on both cars were found after the race to be less than
    the minimum depth allowed in the rules.

    This shakes the hell out of the championship. Can Max come back to win
    the title?

    Points standings after Mclaren DQs

    Norris 390
    Piastri 366
    Verstappen 366
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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 24 12:06:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.autos.sport.f1

    flemos <flemos@mail.com> writes:
    flemos wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cr7l5v2exv0o
    ...
    This shakes the hell out of the championship. Can Max come back to
    win the title?

    Points standings after Mclaren DQs

    Norris 390
    Piastri 366
    Verstappen 366

    Assuming Max wins everything, he goes to 424, so Norris would need 35
    points to win (a tie giving the title to Max by 8 wins to 7).

    Also assuming McLaren use team orders to put Lando ahead of Oscar,
    then 35 can be achieved by
    2nd(18) + 2nd(18) + irrelevant sprint
    2nd(18) + 3rd(15) + sprint 7th(2)
    2nd(18) + 4th(12) + sprint 4th(5)
    ...
    Or in tabular form - set fonts to sane - here's what he'd need from the
    sprint:

    \ Q | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th |
    A.D.\ | 25 | 18 | 15 | 12 | 10 | 8 | -------+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
    1st 25 | x | x | x | x | x | x |
    2nd 18 | x | any | 7th | 4th | 2nd | L |
    3rd 15 | x | 7th | 4th | L* | L | L |
    4th 12 | x | 4th | L* | L | L | L |
    5th 10 | x | 2nd | L | L | L | L |
    6th 8 | x | L | L | L | L | L |

    Here, 'x' means that this case is excluded by the 'Max wins' assumption,
    L means 'Lando loses the WDC', and L* means 'Lando would have needed 1st place'.

    Phil
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