• Sprint race format - ready for every race weekend now?

    From vintageapplemac@vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Tue Oct 21 08:48:49 2025
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    I do enjoy a sprint race weekend, the current format is pretty good and I
    am sold. I reckon I am ready to see every race weekend be a sprint race weekend, but I know many people hate the sprints.

    Why is that? The race on Sunday was boring as hell and the sprint qualy
    and race was wildly entertaining by comparison. Most sprints this year and
    last have been good fun, in my opinion... Domenicali seems keen to get
    more sprints into the calendar, I reckon they should just commit and go
    for it - so long FP2 and 3!
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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Oct 24 09:21:19 2025
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    vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) writes:
    I do enjoy a sprint race weekend, the current format is pretty good and I
    am sold.

    Nah. I want them to practice, to qualify for the race, and then to race.
    Job done. Pack up. Go home.

    Shoving an extra quali and race into the weekend is a wrongheaded
    slavery to the "some is good therefore more is better" fallacy.

    Other opinions are available, and probably equally valid.

    Phil
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  • From Sir Tim@no_email@invalid.invalid to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Fri Oct 24 23:45:51 2025
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    Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
    vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) writes:
    I do enjoy a sprint race weekend, the current format is pretty good and I
    am sold.

    Nah. I want them to practice, to qualify for the race, and then to race.
    Job done. Pack up. Go home.

    Shoving an extra quali and race into the weekend is a wrongheaded
    slavery to the "some is good therefore more is better" fallacy.

    Other opinions are available, and probably equally valid.

    Phil

    But I agree with yours.
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  • From ~misfit~@shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Oct 26 14:40:28 2025
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    On 25/10/2025 12:45 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
    vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) writes:
    I do enjoy a sprint race weekend, the current format is pretty good and I >>> am sold.

    Nah. I want them to practice, to qualify for the race, and then to race.
    Job done. Pack up. Go home.

    Shoving an extra quali and race into the weekend is a wrongheaded
    slavery to the "some is good therefore more is better" fallacy.

    Other opinions are available, and probably equally valid.

    Phil

    But I agree with yours.

    As do I.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
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  • From vintageapplemac@vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 2 11:40:24 2025
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    In article <10dju6e$3np19$1@dont-email.me>, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 25/10/2025 12:45 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
    vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) writes:
    I do enjoy a sprint race weekend, the current format is pretty good and I >>> am sold.

    Nah. I want them to practice, to qualify for the race, and then to race. >> Job done. Pack up. Go home.

    Shoving an extra quali and race into the weekend is a wrongheaded
    slavery to the "some is good therefore more is better" fallacy.

    Other opinions are available, and probably equally valid.

    Phil

    But I agree with yours.

    As do I.

    Well, I respectfully disagree... :-P We've got a couple of sprints coming
    up, and I am looking forward to them as I know I'll be bathing myself in multiple hours of more racing those weekends, practice sessions are dull
    as ditchwater no matter how hard I try to enjoy them (exception was
    Monaco, it was enjoyable to spend time just looking at the cars going
    around at that place). Lovely stuff!

    I've also been watching more of the F2 this season than ever before, too,
    and have really started to get into it. Christ, I've even watched a couple
    of the F1 Academy races as well and had good fun.

    More qualifying and races = satisfied me. Bring on more sprints!:)
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  • From ~misfit~@shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Mon Nov 3 15:50:36 2025
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    On 2/11/2025 11:40 pm, scole wrote:
    In article <10dju6e$3np19$1@dont-email.me>, ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 25/10/2025 12:45 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
    vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) writes:
    I do enjoy a sprint race weekend, the current format is pretty good and I >>>>> am sold.

    Nah. I want them to practice, to qualify for the race, and then to race. >>>> Job done. Pack up. Go home.

    Shoving an extra quali and race into the weekend is a wrongheaded
    slavery to the "some is good therefore more is better" fallacy.

    Other opinions are available, and probably equally valid.

    Phil

    But I agree with yours.

    As do I.

    Well, I respectfully disagree... :-P

    As is your right - thank you for being respectful about it. ;)

    We've got a couple of sprints coming
    up, and I am looking forward to them as I know I'll be bathing myself in multiple hours of more racing those weekends, practice sessions are dull
    as ditchwater no matter how hard I try to enjoy them (exception was
    Monaco, it was enjoyable to spend time just looking at the cars going
    around at that place). Lovely stuff!

    My opinion is that the GP is the spectacle, practice sessions are just that and not really meant to
    be entertaining. However they are important for the teams to dial in their cars properly for the
    GP. The lack of practice sessions means that cars often start the sprint (and to a lesser extent
    the GP) out of place on the grid.

    You'd think that would make for more entertaining racing but, with the cars how they are overtaking
    is almost impossible unless you are 1 second plus a lap faster than the car you're trying to
    overtake. At a lot or tracks the cars are all running really close so that's rare. (Witness Sainz'
    multiple attempted overtakes recently - he needs to remember that he's in a mid-field car now and
    doesn't have the lap delta to pull of these 'passes' on other mid-field cars.) The one thing that
    makes passing easier is a tyre offset but you don't get that in a sprint.

    The situation we're in is that the owners of F1 are trying to milk it for as much as they can (yay
    capitalism!). As you say practice sessions aren't great spectacles so don't get so many spectators.
    I'm fine with that. I'd rather have one really good race a weekend than two incident-filled
    un-pre-prepared and unsatisfying things.

    I've also been watching more of the F2 this season than ever before, too,
    and have really started to get into it. Christ, I've even watched a couple
    of the F1 Academy races as well and had good fun.

    More qualifying and races = satisfied me. Bring on more sprints!:)

    I'm pleased someone is enjoying them!
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville.
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  • From Phil Carmody@pc+usenet@asdf.org to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sat Nov 8 21:37:09 2025
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    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 2/11/2025 11:40 pm, scole wrote:
    In article <10dju6e$3np19$1@dont-email.me>, ~misfit~
    <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 25/10/2025 12:45 pm, Sir Tim wrote:
    Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
    Other opinions are available, and probably equally valid.

    But I agree with yours.

    As do I.

    Well, I respectfully disagree... :-P

    As is your right - thank you for being respectful about it. ;)

    Absolutely.

    More qualifying and races = satisfied me. Bring on more sprints!:)

    I'm pleased someone is enjoying them!

    Sure. I don't not enjoy them, it's just that I now have more things to
    try and fit into my weekend (F1 is not my highest priority, sorry[*]) and I don't get quite the kick out of them that I do the proper race. It does
    help build the expectations for the Sunday race though, which, as
    someone who pulls his race predictions out of his arse, adds hilarity.


    Phil
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  • From vintageapplemac@vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) to rec.autos.sport.f1 on Sun Nov 9 12:43:43 2025
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    In article <875xbkqpsq.fsf@asdf.ee>, Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:

    ~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:
    On 2/11/2025 11:40 pm, scole wrote:
    More qualifying and races = satisfied me. Bring on more sprints!:)

    I'm pleased someone is enjoying them!

    Sure. I don't not enjoy them, it's just that I now have more things to
    try and fit into my weekend (F1 is not my highest priority, sorry[*]) and I don't get quite the kick out of them that I do the proper race. It does
    help build the expectations for the Sunday race though, which, as
    someone who pulls his race predictions out of his arse, adds hilarity.

    Well, yesterday's sprint was good fun, I thought. I'm hopeful that today's
    race will be interesting, Interlagos usually is, but the Sprint was a nice
    dash of chaos and fury, very enjoyable. Shame about the yellows at the end nipping the NOR/ANT battle in the bud, but good to see BOR walk away
    unscathed from such a horrible accident.
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