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In article <vintageapplemac-2110250844540001@192.168.1.134>, vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) wrote:

Re tyres, is there a case to make for a rule mandating that all compounds must be used in a race, soft and medium and hard? That'd make every race a two-stopper, and you'd have people start on softs to try and gain places early and others who'd save the softs for a sprint to the finish. It could
be good...

No thoughts on this? Would it be a good idea or would it be too much of an intervention on the sport? Has it ever been tried before, in F1 or another formula?
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On 2/11/2025 11:41 pm, scole wrote:

In article <vintageapplemac-2110250844540001@192.168.1.134>, vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) wrote:

Re tyres, is there a case to make for a rule mandating that all compounds
must be used in a race, soft and medium and hard? That'd make every race a >> two-stopper, and you'd have people start on softs to try and gain places
early and others who'd save the softs for a sprint to the finish. It could >> be good...

No thoughts on this? Would it be a good idea or would it be too much of an intervention on the sport?

I think the TWO compound thing is too much intervention. I'd like to see a season where there is
only one tyre compound, roughly equal to the current 'medium', with no mandated stops. A gradual
drop-off in lap times but no 'cliff' would make pit stops an option for faster cars that are hard
on their tyres. Conversely cars that are easier on their tyres (but slower overall) could get away
with fewer of even no pit stops. Car set-up would certainly be easier for the teams (perhaps making
sprints more viable?).

A single compound would make Pirelli's task easier and reduce the carbon footprint of F1. It would
also be easier for newer punters to follow the action on track as there's less data to follow.

Just a thought. I'm open to hearing reasons why this might not be good for F1 and why we shouldn't
try it.

Has it ever been tried before, in F1 or another
formula?

I'm not sure that it's been tried before. It hasn't been TTBOMK.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
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On 2025-11-02 10:00 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 2/11/2025 11:41 pm, scole wrote:

In article <vintageapplemac-2110250844540001@192.168.1.134>,
vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) wrote:

Re tyres, is there a case to make for a rule mandating that all
compounds
must be used in a race, soft and medium and hard? That'd make every
race a
two-stopper, and you'd have people start on softs to try and gain places >>> early and others who'd save the softs for a sprint to the finish. It
could
be good...

No thoughts on this? Would it be a good idea or would it be too much
of an
intervention on the sport?

I think the TWO compound thing is too much intervention. I'd like to see
a season where there is only one tyre compound, roughly equal to the
current 'medium', with no mandated stops. A gradual drop-off in lap
times but no 'cliff' would make pit stops an option for faster cars that
are hard on their tyres. Conversely cars that are easier on their tyres
(but slower overall) could get away with fewer of even no pit stops. Car set-up would certainly be easier for the teams (perhaps making sprints
more viable?).

A single compound would make Pirelli's task easier and reduce the carbon footprint of F1. It would also be easier for newer punters to follow the action on track as there's less data to follow.

Just a thought. I'm open to hearing reasons why this might not be good
for F1 and why we shouldn't try it.

Has it ever been tried before, in F1 or another
formula?

I'm not sure that it's been tried before. It hasn't been TTBOMK.

Back in the "old days", F1 cars basically ran a single compound. You can
see photos of cars with treaded tires. If I remember correctly -- not at
all a given -- the cars had a selection of tires they could chose from, different makes if nothing else. But they could run their tires for the
entire race if they chose. Teams with more cash could purchase the tires
from the "best" maker and come in for a tire change if they felt the
need, while poorer teams might have to make do on cheaper tires or even
reuse tires at subsequent events.

I do hope I've got the fact right. By the time I was going to races,
slicks had replaced tires with treads, but I believe that there were no
rules about mandatory tire changes and compound changes. Teams had
advanced to sponsorship deals with the tire makers so pretty much
everyone had a shot at getting good tires. Although that produced the laughable Indianapolis race in which one manufacturer withdrew their
tires for safety reasons, leaving only a couple of teams actually
running the race.

The good old days, right?


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~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:

On 2/11/2025 11:41 pm, scole wrote:

In article <vintageapplemac-2110250844540001@192.168.1.134>,
vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) wrote:

Re tyres, is there a case to make for a rule mandating that all compounds >>> must be used in a race, soft and medium and hard? That'd make every race a >>> two-stopper, and you'd have people start on softs to try and gain places >>> early and others who'd save the softs for a sprint to the finish. It could >>> be good...

No thoughts on this? Would it be a good idea or would it be too much of an >> intervention on the sport?

I think the TWO compound thing is too much intervention.

Please stop sharing so many of the opinions that I have! :)

Phil
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On 9/11/2025 8:38 am, Phil Carmody wrote:

~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> writes:

On 2/11/2025 11:41 pm, scole wrote:

In article <vintageapplemac-2110250844540001@192.168.1.134>,
vintageapplemac@gmail.com (scole) wrote:

Re tyres, is there a case to make for a rule mandating that all compounds >>>> must be used in a race, soft and medium and hard? That'd make every race a >>>> two-stopper, and you'd have people start on softs to try and gain places >>>> early and others who'd save the softs for a sprint to the finish. It could >>>> be good...

No thoughts on this? Would it be a good idea or would it be too much of an >>> intervention on the sport?

I think the TWO compound thing is too much intervention.

Please stop sharing so many of the opinions that I have! :)

LOL! Sorry about that.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville.
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