• 21 year old Mexican Patrico O'Ward wins Texas Indycar, hopes for F1 test

    From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport.indy,rec.autos.sport.cart on Sun May 2 16:37:25 2021
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    21 year old Mexican Patrico O'Ward wins Texas Indycar, hopes for
    F1 test.
    He has been doing quite well at Indycar, but this was his
    first win.

    from https://racer.com/2021/05/01/brown-wants-rules-encouraging-teams-to-give-herta-and-oward-a-shot-at-f1/

    By Chris Medland | May 1, 2021 10:20 AM

    McLaren Racing CEO Zak Brown wants regulations brought in that would
    increase the chance of rookie drivers getting a chance in Formula 1,
    saying he would love to see Colton Herta and Pato OrCOWard make the switch from IndyCar.

    OrCOWard took pole position for Arrow McLaren SP for the opening race at Barber and then Herta impressed on his way to victory at St. Petersburg
    last weekend, igniting the topic of IndyCar and F1 crossovers. Brown
    says not enough IndyCar drivers get a chance to impress in F1 machinery,
    and believes all young prospects would benefit from a change in regulations.

    rCLI think that now we have such limited testing that itrCOs very difficult
    to take a risk with bringing on a driver that you think could have the
    caliber to be a Formula 1 driver but doesnrCOt have the time or track knowledge,rCY Brown said. rCLSo if I look back and put my fan hat on, I was excited when Michael Andretti came over, when Jacques Villeneuve came
    over, when Juan Pablo Montoya came over.

    rCLI think IndyCar is recognized as one of the best championships in the world, and so when you see a talent like Colton Herta, Pato OrCOWard who drives for us in IndyCar, IrCOd love to see those drivers get a shot to compete in Formula 1. But I think we need to give them more seat time.

    rCLOne of the things I would like to see rCo and I donrCOt have a set number in mind, I donrCOt know if itrCOs three times a year, maybe itrCOs five times a year rCo mandatory Free Practice 1 where you have to put in a young
    driver. Maybe every team has to go to the same circuit; maybe every team
    has to do it four or five times a year and you can pick your circuit; I
    mean, those are details to be worked through. But if we could get
    someone like Colton Herta or Pato OrCOWard some testing time, some Free Practice 1s, then I think you could better take decisions which would
    create new opportunities.

    rCLSo younger, exciting drivers would helprCa and itrCOs not just in the North American marketplace, but IndyCar obviously breeds extremely good racing drivers, and I think that creates excitement, it would help with the
    U.S. market and the young driver market.rCY

    While Brown acknowledges more teams might provide more opportunities for
    young drivers, he insists that wouldnrCOt solve the problem of teams
    needing to take a risk if those prospects havenrCOt been able to prove themselves at all.

    rCLI would love to see a day when we have 11 and 12 teams, and I think if
    you look at the wealth in this sport from an ownership standpoint I
    donrCOt think the sport has ever been stronger. We no longer have rCo to my knowledge rCo any teams with any sort of financial risk to them, when
    (before) I think the sport has always had two or three teams on the
    brink at any one time.

    rCLI think because of the budget cap coming in and the fact that the sport
    is so much healthier now, IrCOm hoping that werCOll see some more teams come in. If we could get back up to 12 teams yourCOve got four more seats; but
    I also think that sometimes teams donrCOt change drivers because they
    donrCOt know where to go without taking a bigger risk.

    rCLSo I think what you might see is a higher turnover in drivers if teams
    went rCyActually, IrCOve got more opportunity.rCO If you look at Red Bull and AlphaTauri as an example, theyrCOve bounced drivers back and forth a
    handful a times, and if there was someone else waiting in the wings
    that they felt they had seen enough of, maybe it wouldnrCOt have been
    moving drivers back and forth, it would have been, rCyWe gave you an opportunity, it didnrCOt work, werCOre moving you out because werCOre bringing in another driver.rCO

    rCLSo I think the seats are there, and I think the talentrCOs there but the talent has not been able to show its talent for a team to be able to
    take enough risk.rCY

    also worth viewing
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_IndyCar_Series

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  • From ~misfit~@shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport.indy,rec.autos.sport.cart on Mon May 3 14:08:52 2021
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    On 3/05/2021 11:37 am, a425couple wrote:

    So after Indycars get the hard sell in this group I decide to start watching a few races (delayed
    because ... reasons) then you post spoilers? Thanks, you've saved me a few hours and reminded me
    not to have my judgement swayed so easily.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
    in the DSM"
    David Melville

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  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport.indy,rec.autos.sport.cart on Mon May 3 11:03:47 2021
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    On 5/2/2021 7:08 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 3/05/2021 11:37 am, a425couple wrote:

    So after Indycars get the hard sell in this group I decide to start
    watching a few races (delayed because ... reasons) then you post
    spoilers? Thanks, you've saved me a few hours and reminded me not to
    have my judgement swayed so easily.


    Right.

    After years of constantly criticizing Indycar,
    (and generally disagreeing with me about most everything)
    you really, honestly, and truly were going to try
    it, , , ,
    Until I ruined it all for you.

    Right.

    Were you ever willing to take responsibility
    for yourself?
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  • From Sir Tim@no_email@invalid.invalid to rec.autos.sport.f1,rec.autos.sport.indy,rec.autos.sport.cart on Tue May 4 07:54:42 2021
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    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 5/2/2021 7:08 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
    On 3/05/2021 11:37 am, a425couple wrote:

    So after Indycars get the hard sell in this group I decide to start
    watching a few races (delayed because ... reasons) then you post
    spoilers? Thanks, you've saved me a few hours and reminded me not to
    have my judgement swayed so easily.


    Right.

    After years of constantly criticizing Indycar,
    (and generally disagreeing with me about most everything)
    you really, honestly, and truly were going to try
    it, , , ,
    Until I ruined it all for you.

    Right.

    Were you ever willing to take responsibility
    for yourself?


    Eh? Bit difficult to rCLtake responsibility for yourselfrCY when the spoiler is in the header isnrCOt it?
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