• talk of Australia and Japan being 'front limited'

    From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.cart on Mon Apr 1 16:18:50 2024
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    Well ??? Somewhere I read that!!

    from https://www.offshoresportsbooks.com/news/japanese-grand-prix-f1-offshore-odds-pick-2/

    Japanese Grand Prix F1 Offshore Odds & Pick
    2 minutes read
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    PublishedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amUpdatedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amAuthorAlex DudleySHARE ARTICLE
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    The competitive action on track in Formula 1 continues across the first weekend in April, with the Japanese Grand Prix being staged. Max VerstappenrCOs perfect start to the season was ended in Australia, but the
    Red Bull driver is heavily expected to respond in Asia.

    Before Betting On Japanese Grand Prix
    The Japanese Grand Prix is widely considered to be one of the most
    exciting races on the schedule. However, it will be staged earlier in
    the season for the first time in 2024, meaning that a 14th world
    champion wonrCOt be crowned in early April. The Suzuka Circuit has staged
    the race since 1987, with the field competing over a total distance of
    307.471 km.

    Max Verstappen continued his dominant season in the race last season, finishing over 19 seconds clear of Lando Norris. Oscar Piastri enjoyed a strong finish to that race, achieving a double podium for McLaren.
    Michael Schumacher is the most successful driver in the history of the
    race with six previous victories.

    Verstappen has won the Japanese Grand Prix is each of the last two
    years, but there will be questions to answer for the Red Bull after the reigning world champion was forced to retire after just three laps in Melbourne. However, the team reiterated after the race that it was
    unlikely that they had the pace to compete with the Ferrari in Australia.

    It was a welcome return to form for Carlos Sainz, who landed victory in Melbourne just two weeks after having his appendix removed. Charles
    Leclerc capped a good weekend for the team by finishing second, with
    Lando Norris taking third. The performance of the Ferrari could be a
    good indicator that they may have a part to play in Japan.

    Japanese Grand Prix Offshore Odds & Pick
    Driver Odds
    Max Verstappen
    1.20
    Sergio Perez
    12.00
    Charles Leclerc
    17.00
    Carlos Sainz
    17.00
    Lando Norris
    26.00
    Lewis Hamilton
    34.00
    George Russell
    34.00
    VerstappenrCOs perfect start to the season ended following a mechanical
    issue in Australia, but it could be safe to presume that the team will
    be able to get back on track in Japan in early April.

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    picks. His main sports include horse racing, soccer, golf and ice hockey.

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  • From a425couple@a425couple@hotmail.com to rec.autos.sport.cart on Tue Apr 2 09:10:54 2024
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    On 4/1/24 16:18, a425couple wrote:
    Well ??? Somewhere I read that!!

    here we go https://thejudge13.com/2024/03/24/marko-says-max-wouldnt-have-won-anyway/

    the key
    Ferrari better at rCLfront limited tracksrCY
    rCLWe were struggling early on, we could see that Ferrari and McLaren were
    a step ahead of us. I think we just couldnrCOt get the balance in a
    window. And there is some work to do for the coming races.

    rCLWe already saw last year in a track like this rCo for example, Las Vegas
    a front-limited track rCo Ferrari was a lot stronger than us so we just couldnrCOt look after the front tyres.rCY

    Checo started the Grand Prix in sixth place after receiving a three
    place grid drop penalty for impeding Haas F1 Nico Hulkenberg in
    qualifying, though with the retirement of Verstappen the Mexican driver
    made it home in P5. This is the second circuit of this type after
    Bahrain that F1 has raced at so far this year,

    with more Ferrari hope to come in Suzuka, Miami, Imola, Barcelona, Silverstone, Spa, Zaandvoort, Qatar, COTA and Brazil. All in all half of
    the races this year will be held at front limited circuits which bodes
    well for the Ferrari pairing



    MARKO SAYS MAX WOULDNrCOT HAVE WON ANYWAY
    March 24, 2024 -+ by thejudge13 -+ in Daily F1 News and Comment. -+
    2 Votes
    For only the second time in the past twelve months a Red Bull driver did
    not win the race at the Australian Grand Prix weekend. In each of the
    three practice sessions a Red Bull car failed to top the time sheets and
    in the first two sessions of Qualifying neither Max or Checo was quickest.

    Verstappen pulled out two laps in Q3 which were each quick enough for
    the pole position time, the 35th of his career, but this was the first
    time werCOd seen a car designed by Adrian Newey fastest. At the start of
    the race, Red Bull now claim VerstappenrCOs rear right brake was stuck and building up terrific heat while he waited for the rest of the cars to
    form up behind him on the grid before lights out.


    RB20 raises questions on tyre wear
    But the writing was on the wall as early as in practice two that Ferrari
    were here to mount a significant challenge to the world champions. There
    it was the Ferrari of Charles Leclerc who demonstrated lap after lap
    that the SF-24 was a match if not better on its medium tyres than either
    Red Bull car.

    Pirelli have rolled the dice this year stating their intention with the
    tyres is to try and elect compounds for each race which will force the
    teams into making two pit stops. This tends to make the races less processional and regularly provides drivers on different tyre offsets
    able to overtake each other rather than trail along in a DRS train.

    This combined with Red Bull delivering a new platform for the RB20,
    which for now appears to cope less well than its predecessor in terms of
    tyre degradation rCo something Red Bull mastered in 2023 as they were
    often the car to pit last for new tyres with Max building leads on those
    who had already switched for fresh rubber.

    Of course this bodes well for the coming races along with the fact that McLaren were competitive with Ferrari for much of the 2024 Australian
    Grand Prix.

    Hamilton makes serious allegations about FIA


    Perez surprising admission
    So its unclear whether Max would have won the race had his car not
    caught fire and he had to retire the RB20 after just five laps. A
    non-Max win was described by one pit lane reporter as rCLa good day for
    the sportrCY whereas had Verstappen been able to continue, it may have
    been an exciting duel between him and Sainz to the end, with the Ferrari winning out due to it being kinder than the Re Bull on the Pirelli tyres.

    When asked whether the Ferrari race pace and lack of front end graining
    meant Sainz would have won the race even had Verstappen not retired,
    Checo was quick to respond.

    rCLAbsolutely,rCY he replied when Sky Sports F1. rCYI think just as a team, we just didnrCOt have the pace today. We didnrCOt have the pace throughout the weekend. We were struggling already from Friday and we never got on top
    of the management of tyres.rCY

    Perez claimed even McLaren were probably on a par with the world
    championship team but he notes the track in Melbourne is one where
    Ferrari does go well.

    Marko refuses to deny Mercedes rCLofferrCY to Max

    -----------------------

    Ferrari better at rCLfront limited tracksrCY
    rCLWe were struggling early on, we could see that Ferrari and McLaren were
    a step ahead of us. I think we just couldnrCOt get the balance in a
    window. And there is some work to do for the coming races.

    rCLWe already saw last year in a track like this rCo for example, Las Vegas
    a front-limited track rCo Ferrari was a lot stronger than us so we just couldnrCOt look after the front tyres.rCY

    Checo started the Grand Prix in sixth place after receiving a three
    place grid drop penalty for impeding Haas F1 Nico Hulkenberg in
    qualifying, though with the retirement of Verstappen the Mexican driver
    made it home in P5. This is the second circuit of this type after
    Bahrain that F1 has raced at so far this year, with more Ferrari hope to
    come in Suzuka, Miami, Imola, Barcelona, Silverstone, Spa, Zaandvoort,
    Qatar, COTA and Brazil. All in all half of the races this year will be
    held at front limited circuits which bodes well for the Ferrari pairing
    who could mount a challenge to Max Verstappn this season.

    Wolff breaks silence on legal battle with FIA







    Marko questions Red Bull set up
    rCLCheco, however, went backwards,rCY Helmut Marko mused to ServusTV. rCLWhy? We were at times two seconds slower than the race leader.

    rCLWe need to start looking at that. Maybe the tyre pressure was too high
    for these conditions or we went the wrong way with the set-up because he
    was two seconds slower.

    rCLWe thought the problems had been solved, which was the case with Max, I think. But as I said, ChecorCOs race result does give us food for thought.rCY

    As much as Marko believes Max is quicker than Sergio, even he must admit
    that Perez being two seconds a lap slower would have probably meant Max
    would also have found difficulties with his RB20, had he survived longer
    than five laps.

    Verstappen faces penalty blow in Australia







    Horner defends his star driver
    Verstappen appeared incensed on the team radio when it became apparent
    he was required to retire his car. The Dutch driver jumped out of the
    car and appeared to be gesticulating vigorously with mechanics from his
    side of the garage.

    Red Bull team boss Christian Horner sought to defuse the flashpoint explaining: rCLA driver is always going to be frustrated when they get out
    of the car from a retirement. HerCOs been very gracious with the team.

    rCLThat DNF hurts everyone in the same way. ItrCOs a matter of learning from it and understanding what caused it. Remarkable after three races herCOs
    still leading the World Championship even with that DNF.

    rCLA lot of lessons learned today,rCY concluded Horner.

    Hamilton and Wolff disagreement down under







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    Japanese Grand Prix F1 Offshore Odds & Pick
    2 minutes read
    LIKETWEETPIN
    PublishedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amUpdatedMarch 25, 2024 8:44 amAuthorAlex DudleySHARE ARTICLE
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    The competitive action on track in Formula 1 continues across the first weekend in April, with the Japanese Grand Prix being staged. Max VerstappenrCOs perfect start to the season was ended in Australia, but the Red Bull driver is heavily expected to respond in Asia.

    Before Betting On Japanese Grand Prix
    The Japanese Grand Prix is widely considered to be one of the most
    exciting races on the schedule. However, it will be staged earlier in
    the season for the first time in 2024, meaning that a 14th world
    champion wonrCOt be crowned in early April. The Suzuka Circuit has staged the race since 1987, with the field competing over a total distance of 307.471 km.

    Max Verstappen continued his dominant season in the race last season, finishing over 19 seconds clear of Lando Norris. Oscar Piastri enjoyed a strong finish to that race, achieving a double podium for McLaren.
    Michael Schumacher is the most successful driver in the history of the
    race with six previous victories.

    Verstappen has won the Japanese Grand Prix is each of the last two
    years, but there will be questions to answer for the Red Bull after the reigning world champion was forced to retire after just three laps in Melbourne. However, the team reiterated after the race that it was
    unlikely that they had the pace to compete with the Ferrari in Australia.

    It was a welcome return to form for Carlos Sainz, who landed victory in Melbourne just two weeks after having his appendix removed. Charles
    Leclerc capped a good weekend for the team by finishing second, with
    Lando Norris taking third. The performance of the Ferrari could be a
    good indicator that they may have a part to play in Japan.

    Japanese Grand Prix Offshore Odds & Pick
    Driver-a-a-a Odds
    Max Verstappen
    1.20
    Sergio Perez
    12.00
    Charles Leclerc
    17.00
    Carlos Sainz
    17.00
    Lando Norris
    26.00
    Lewis Hamilton
    34.00
    George Russell
    34.00
    VerstappenrCOs perfect start to the season ended following a mechanical issue in Australia, but it could be safe to presume that the team will
    be able to get back on track in Japan in early April.

    TAGS:
    F1F1 2024Formula 1Japanese Grand PrixALEX DUDLEYAlex is an experienced sports bettor that dedicates his time to ensuring that he makes solid
    picks. His main sports include horse racing, soccer, golf and ice hockey.


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