• [OT] Water proof speakers

    From Tobiah@toby@tobiah.org to rec.audio.pro on Thu Jun 13 05:36:55 2024
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    I was looking for a stereo speaker to use for watching movies on
    a laptop. So many of them are 'water proof'. I assume this is done
    by using non-porous materials for the cone and annulus.

    The first thing that comes to mind, is that there is probably a sacrifice
    that affects sound quality to achieve this. Is there any validity to my
    hunch?

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  • From Geoff@geoff@geoffwood.org to rec.audio.pro on Fri Jun 14 10:39:52 2024
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    On 14/06/2024 12:36 am, Tobiah wrote:
    I was looking for a stereo speaker to use for watching movies on
    a laptop.-a So many of them are 'water proof'.-a I assume this is done
    by using non-porous materials for the cone and annulus.

    The first thing that comes to mind, is that there is probably a sacrifice that affects sound quality to achieve this.-a Is there any validity to my hunch?


    Dunno, probably more like 'water-resistant', and sound quality unlikely
    to be a criteria for such things.

    But is your laptop waterproof ?

    geoff
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  • From Tobiah@toby@tobiah.org to rec.audio.pro on Fri Jun 14 06:44:36 2024
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    But is your laptop waterproof ?

    No. I was going out of my way to find a speaker
    that wasn't water-proof as every feature comes with
    compromise and I didn't need that feature.

    Ended up with an awesome little stereo bluetooth
    speaker from amazon. $20 'renewed'. Quite transparent
    considering the size and weight. Mic for phone/Zoom.
    2"x6.5" 382 grams.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QQQG7FV?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

    By the way, what is the state of bluetooth these day? Is it
    still a bottle neck for fidelity? I had started with a different
    brand that used a single USB wire for power and signal, because I
    didn't care so much about wireless, but that speaker had at least
    frequency balance issues, with forward muddy bass and muffled highs.


    Toby

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  • From Nil@rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid to rec.audio.pro on Fri Jun 14 14:22:22 2024
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    On 14 Jun 2024, Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> wrote in rec.audio.pro:

    By the way, what is the state of bluetooth these day? Is it
    still a bottle neck for fidelity? I had started with a different
    brand that used a single USB wire for power and signal, because I
    didn't care so much about wireless, but that speaker had at least
    frequency balance issues, with forward muddy bass and muffled
    highs.

    This explains part of the bluetooth equation pretty well:

    https://www.howtogeek.com/878574/bluetooth-vs-wi-fi-music-which-has-better-audio-quality/

    ... and this talks about the bluetooth codecs involved and how they
    affect the sound:

    https://www.soundguys.com/understanding-bluetooth-codecs-15352/

    As I understand it, the most recent versions of bluetooth are capable
    of better bandwidth and other enhancements, although the audio is
    still lossy-compressed and therefore degraded.
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  • From uncenter@dr.grayson@edu.edu to rec.audio.pro on Fri Feb 28 06:23:02 2025
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    $20 'renewed'.

    Renewed means nothing good. If "renewed" by amazon a lackey reboxed it
    without testing. If third party your odds are less good unless they
    sell only speakers.

    Further amazon's Community Team is NOT to be trusted as they are both capricious with legit reviewers and in collusion with sellers to
    engineer favorable reviews likely accepting bribes.

    Do you require waterproofness to include ability to float? Or is it
    more water proof for occasional shower splashing?
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.audio.pro on Fri Feb 28 16:00:47 2025
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    uncenter <dr.grayson@edu.edu> wrote:
    Do you require waterproofness to include ability to float? Or is it
    more water proof for occasional shower splashing?

    There are actual industrial standards for this. You can order stuff
    certified to IP48 or IP68 or a bunch in-between, Google "IP Rating
    Reference Chart."
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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