• [OT] UK Labour Party turns even further left

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Sep 29 18:14:58 2026
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    The British political parties - at least the major ones - have annual conferences where they come up with new ideas for policies. PM Burnham
    has used this opportunity to announce policies to nationalize even more
    of the British economy. He's even announced a new policy that will
    effectively expropriate property that's been vacant for longer than 6
    months.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYBOTI3vPHQ [10 minutes]

    With regards to the new expropriation laws, I think he must be expecting
    to "welcome" even more millions of "refugees" and needs places for them
    to stay. If you do a major renovation that requires your home to be
    unoccupied for more than 6 months, you could have to forfeit your house
    and then Burnham can give it away to "refugees" (or anyone else they
    consider a potential Labour voter).

    If ever a country needed an election, the UK is it. But they'll have to
    carry on for 3 more years under these whackjobs because Labour has a
    very solid majority.
    --
    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue Sep 29 23:54:00 2026
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    On Sep 29, 2026 at 3:14:58 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    The British political parties - at least the major ones - have annual conferences where they come up with new ideas for policies. PM Burnham
    has used this opportunity to announce policies to nationalize even more
    of the British economy. He's even announced a new policy that will effectively expropriate property that's been vacant for longer than 6 months.

    So if you own some quiet pastureland out in the countryside, the government
    can just come take it from you because it's vacant?

    Why do they still call him prime minister? Shouldn't he be Chairman Burnham at this point? Or maybe Comrade Burnham?


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed Sep 30 13:51:53 2026
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    On 2026-09-29 7:54 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On Sep 29, 2026 at 3:14:58 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    The British political parties - at least the major ones - have annual
    conferences where they come up with new ideas for policies. PM Burnham
    has used this opportunity to announce policies to nationalize even more
    of the British economy. He's even announced a new policy that will
    effectively expropriate property that's been vacant for longer than 6
    months.

    So if you own some quiet pastureland out in the countryside, the government can just come take it from you because it's vacant?

    Why do they still call him prime minister? Shouldn't he be Chairman Burnham at
    this point? Or maybe Comrade Burnham?

    The Tories had 14 consecutive years in office from 2010 to 2024 and
    proved so ineffectual in many ways, especially with regards to
    immigration, that the voters overlooked the fact that they accomplished
    BREXIT and gave Labour a huge majority. The pundits called it a
    "loveless landslide": it wasn't that Labour was popular but the Tories
    were so UNPOPULAR that the other parties benefited. The UK is still first-past-the-post and has several alternate parties so the opposition
    to the Tories was split among several parties so in a great many cases,
    the opposition party with the most votes was Labour. Labour only got 33%
    of the total, a historic low for the winning party, but they got the
    second biggest majority in history and therefore got the most seats.
    Labour has over 400 seats out of 650 so all the opposition parties
    combined can't stop them from anything.

    Starmer faced all sorts of difficulties during his administration,
    including many cosmic flipflops, but most of them happened because he
    wasn't radical enough for his MPs. They'd propose something, he'd try to
    enact it but the backlash was so fierce that he had to abandon it
    leading to flipflop after flipflop. Finally, they chased him out and
    replaced him with Burnham who is farther left and therefore more popular within the party. (At least for now.)

    The whole system could be described as an elected autocracy: whenever an election gives a majority of seats to one party, it can pretty much do
    what it likes until the next election. Labour is taking advantage of
    that right now. Your country and mine are variations on the same theme.
    Canada works just like the UK but America isn't dissimilar. If the same
    party controls the White House, the Senate and the House, the president
    can do pretty much what he wants since you have a (temporary)
    authoritarian regime (although subject to pressures from the opposition
    party and the media!); if different parties control different parts,
    then it gets a lot trickier for a president to have his way.

    It all comes down to elections; you can't really blame the party leaders
    for taking advantage of the system to accomplish they're agenda if they
    get enough votes. Burnham is just taking advantage of his majority, just
    like Carney and Trump are.
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    Rhino
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