Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week. Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
On 2026-09-26 12:56 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week. >>> Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying >>> something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice >>> of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
Damn! L.A. really *is* corrupt! I was really shocked when the Russian
woman, who'd been ignoring the government urging people to vote online showed up at a polling station to vote and was told that the computer
system said she'd already voted. I didn't think anyone else had done
*that*.
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week. >>> Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying >>> something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice >>> of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't
prove it of one our own?
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week. >>>> Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an >>>> election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The >>>> levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying >>>> something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice >>>> of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't
prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles pass a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e., California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an >>>>> election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The >>>>> levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections >>>>> eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting >>>>> democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't
prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore >> ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles pass >> a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e., >> California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the
like) over many, many years.
On Sep 26, 2026 at 10:03:28 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-09-26 12:56 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week. >>>> Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an >>>> election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The >>>> levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying >>>> something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice >>>> of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
Damn! L.A. really *is* corrupt! I was really shocked when the Russian
woman, who'd been ignoring the government urging people to vote online
showed up at a polling station to vote and was told that the computer
system said she'd already voted. I didn't think anyone else had done
*that*.
That actually happened to *me*! Twice!
Ever since Emperor Newsom decreed (all on his own) that we Californians don't need to be going to actual polling places anymore and would be mailing out 40 million ballots to everyone on the voter rolls, I have never actually received
a ballot in the mail. Somehow they always seem to get "lost" along the way.
In the last election, I showed up to the polls to vote only to be told the computer showed I already voted by mail. Since I'd never received a ballot in the mail, that indicated to me that someone intercepted it somewhere along the
line and voted on my behalf. I was forced to cast a provisional ballot which would only be counted later after my identity was verified. What do you suppose the odds are that any of that ever happened in this dumpster fire of a
state, especially to a ballot full of votes for conservatives being reviewed by government workers that are almost all 'progressive' Democrats?
The most likely scenario is that my vote died on some shelf somewhere and someone else got to vote for me, likely for candidates I never would have chosen.
On Sep 26, 2026 at 10:03:28 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>wrote:
need to be going to actual polling places anymore and would be mailing outOn 2026-09-26 12:56 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >>> wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week. >>>> Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying >>>> something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice >>>> of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
Damn! L.A. really *is* corrupt! I was really shocked when the Russian
woman, who'd been ignoring the government urging people to vote online
showed up at a polling station to vote and was told that the computer
system said she'd already voted. I didn't think anyone else had done
*that*.
That actually happened to *me*! Twice!
Ever since Emperor Newsom decreed (all on his own) that we Californians don't
In the last election, I showed up to the polls to vote only to be told thecomputer showed I already voted by mail. Since I'd never received a ballot
The most likely scenario is that my vote died on some shelf somewhere andsomeone else got to vote for me, likely for candidates I never would have chosen.
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an >>>>>> election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections >>>>>> eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting >>>>>> democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't >>>> prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore >>> ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e., >>> California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the
like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple instances of 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on camera. They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they set up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money for votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with screenshots of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the cops shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt ) originated from? I'll give you one guess.
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black swan event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in favor of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
On 2026-09-26 6:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting >>>>>>> democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't >>>>> prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore
ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles >>>> pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e.,
California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the
like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple instances of
'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on camera.
They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they >> set
up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money for >> votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and >> when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with screenshots >> of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the cops
shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's
odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt )
originated from? I'll give you one guess.
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black swan >> event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in favor
of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status >> quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
Is there any truth to the headlines I've seen about Karen Bass being
about to go to jail over her involvement in the homelessness initiative
that has received $2 billion but not done much of anything yet? Those
titles felt like they were exaggerated/clickbait but anything is
possible these days.
What would happen to the mayoral election if Bass got arrested and/or resigned "to focus on clearing her good name"? Does Raman just get in automatically? Or is Pratt back in with a chance? Or does Bass get to
stay major (assuming the machine gives her enough votes) and govern
despite being under a cloud?
On Sep 26, 2026 at 3:58:16 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-09-26 6:44 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes] >>>>>>>>
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't >>>>>> prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore
ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles
pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e.,
California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the
like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple instances of
'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on camera.
They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they >>> set
up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money for
votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and >>> when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with screenshots
of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the cops
shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's
odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt )
originated from? I'll give you one guess.
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black swan
event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in favor
of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status >>> quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
Is there any truth to the headlines I've seen about Karen Bass being
about to go to jail over her involvement in the homelessness initiative
that has received $2 billion but not done much of anything yet? Those
titles felt like they were exaggerated/clickbait but anything is
possible these days.
What would happen to the mayoral election if Bass got arrested and/or
resigned "to focus on clearing her good name"? Does Raman just get in
automatically? Or is Pratt back in with a chance? Or does Bass get to
stay major (assuming the machine gives her enough votes) and govern
despite being under a cloud?
I haven't heard anything about Bass being on the verge of arrest. I mean, I'd love to see it happen and I'd throw a party if she was perp-walked out of City
Hall, but I haven't seen anything.
Our only hope is the extreme long-shot of enough people writing in Pratt's name on their ballot.
I've also heard that regardless of whether Bass or Raman wins, the election is
under such a dark cloud that there are several organizations already laying the groundwork for a recall campaign for the winner. The law says you have to wait three months from Election Day to file recall paperwork, so the winner will have only three months to enjoy their victory before having to start the fight to keep their job.
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an >>>>>> election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections >>>>>> eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting >>>>>> democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't >>>> prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore >>> ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e., >>> California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the
like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple instances of 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on camera. They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they set up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money for votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with screenshots of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the cops shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt ) originated from? I'll give you one guess.
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black swan event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in favor of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting >>>>>>> democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't >>>>> prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore
ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles >>>> pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e.,
California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the
like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple instances of
'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on camera.
They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they >> set
up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money for >> votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and >> when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with screenshots >> of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the cops
shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's
odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt )
originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black swan >> event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in favor
of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status >> quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause-pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes] >>>>>>>>
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't >>>>>> prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and therefore
ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles
pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. (i.e.,
California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the
like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple instances of
'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on camera.
They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they >>> set
up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money for
votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and >>> when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with screenshots
of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the cops
shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's
odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt )
originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and local officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as in that evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy with it to do anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black swan
event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in favor
of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status >>> quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause-pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you can attack Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by Democrats at the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular bad guy.
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and highlight all the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in itself. Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that are being elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring down those once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate for abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the Executive Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) >>>>>>>>> this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and >>>>>>>>> that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes] >>>>>>>>>
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the >>>>>>>>> practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom! >>>>>>>
prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and >>>>>> therefore
ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles
pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it. >>>>>> (i.e.,
California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the >>>>> like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple
instances of
'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on >>>> camera.
They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they
set
up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money >>>> for
votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and
when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with
screenshots
of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the >>>> cops
shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's
odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt ) >>>> originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as in that >> evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute blatant
election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy with it to >> do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black >>>> swan
event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in >>>> favor
of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status
quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause-pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are notorious >> for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by Democrats >> at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me. My
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in elections.
Though I don't much treasure the public's tallied "wisdom", I do think
the institution to be an important artifact for a civil society.
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and highlight all >> the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after Trump won >> his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her. Trump
supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.
which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in itself. >> Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that are being >> elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring down
those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it >>>>>> and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, >>>>>>> but can't
-a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom! >>>>>>>
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so >>>>>>>>> they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce >>>>>>>>> it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in California >>>>>>>>> and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes] >>>>>>>>>
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of >>>>>>>>> elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of >>>>>>>>> subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques >>>>>>>>> is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the >>>>>> reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about >>>>>> it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the >>>>> -a like) over many, many years.
instances of
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured
on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught,
that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising
money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards
away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with
screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a
crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
-a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt ) >>>> -a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-
paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as in
that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute blatant
election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy with
it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique
black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s
elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the >>>> status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause-
pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are
notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you can
attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by
Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.-a My
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in elections.
-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied "wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact for a civil society.
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and
highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after Trump
won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Trump
supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.
---a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in
itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that are
being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring
down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On Sep 27, 2026 at 2:43:20 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, but can't
<no_offline_contact@example.com>
wrote:
Russia held elections for the Duma (the national parliament) >>>>>>>>>> this week.
Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so they staged an
election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a farce it was! The
levels of corruption exceeded even those in California and >>>>>>>>>> that's saying
something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>
I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method of elections
eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of subverting
democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques is the
practice
of the government voting for you!
We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom! >>>>>>>>
prove it of one our own?
We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it and >>>>>>> therefore
ignore the proof.
And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the reptiles
pass
a
blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk about it.
(i.e.,
California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the >>>>>> like) over many, many years.
In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple
instances of
'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured on >>>>> camera.
They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, that they
set
up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising money
for
votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards away and
when
the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with
screenshots
of
both the California and federal code sections that make it a crime, the
cops
shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's >>>>> odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt ) >>>>> originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and local >>> officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute blatant
election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy with it to
do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique black
swan
event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s elections in
favor
of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to the status
quo,
like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause-pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are notorious
for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of
course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me. MySo, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by Democrats
at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular bad guy. >>
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in elections.
And yet you at best seem to shrug about blatant election fraud when the perpetrators are leftist-Democrats.
Among all the people I encounter in the course of my daily life, if the topic of election fraud comes up, it's the absolute certainty of its commission here
in California that people say undermines their faith in elections. Trump's name never comes up.
Though I don't much treasure the public's tallied "wisdom", I do think
the institution to be an important artifact for a civil society.
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after Trump won
his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her. Trump
supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.
So Trump is the evil one here because Hillary is less credible than he is?
which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring down >>> those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate for >>> abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the Executive >>> Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered who've
flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
When I encounter one, I'll let you know.
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because not
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it >>>>>>> and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, >>>>>>>> but can't
-a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom! >>>>>>>>
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so >>>>>>>>>> they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a >>>>>>>>>> farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in California >>>>>>>>>> and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method >>>>>>>>>> of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of >>>>>>>>>> subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques >>>>>>>>>> is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, the >>>>>>> reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>> about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and the >>>>>> -a like) over many, many years.
instances of
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were captured >>>>> on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught,
that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage advertising >>>>> money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards >>>>> away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with
screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a
crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
-a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's >>>>> -a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer Pratt ) >>>>> -a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-
paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as in
that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute blatant
election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy with
it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique >>>>> black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s
elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to
the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause-
pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are
notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless,
of course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you can
attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by
Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.-a My
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in
elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied
"wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact for a
civil society.
enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. >
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and
highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after
Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in
itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that are
being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring
down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the Executive >>> Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered
who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On 9/27/2026 7:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 27, 2026 at 2:43:20 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple >>>>>> instances of
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from >>>>>>>> it and
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
-a-a-a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>> parliament)-a-a-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
this week.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so
they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a >>>>>>>>>>> farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>> California and
that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques
of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the
practice
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
therefore
-a-a-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, >>>>>>>> the reptiles
-a pass
-a-a-a a
-a-a-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>>> about it.
(i.e.,
-a-a-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a-a-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing >>>>>>> (and the
-a-a-a like) over many, many years.
-a-a-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were
captured on
camera.
-a-a-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be
caught, that they
-a set
-a-a-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage
advertising money
for
-a-a-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere >>>>>> yards away and
-a when
-a-a-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with >>>>>> screenshots
-a of
-a-a-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a >>>>>> crime, the
cops
-a-a-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
-a-a-a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya >>>>>> Raman's
-a-a-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer >>>>>> Pratt )
-a-a-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
-a Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-
paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
local
-a officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively >>>> -a participating in it.
-a The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as >>>> in that
-a evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute blatant >>>> election
-a fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy
with it to
do
-a anything about it.
-a But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are-a-a-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some
unique black
swan
-a-a-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s
elections in
favor
-a-a-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to >>>>>> the status
-a quo,
-a-a-a like Spencer Pratt.
-a And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause- >>>>> pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
notorious
for
-a their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of
course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
-a So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):-a Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you
-a ...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
-a elections are fraudulent
can attack
-a Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by
Democrats
at
-a the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular
bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.-a My
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in elections.
And yet you at best seem to shrug about blatant election fraud when the
perpetrators are leftist-Democrats.
Among all the people I encounter in the course of my daily life, if
the topic
of election fraud comes up, it's the absolute certainty of its
commission here
in California that people say undermines their faith in elections.
Trump's
name never comes up.
Yes, as I said, there's long been occasional fraud at the local level,
but not at the national level ...an important threshold, imo.-a The
*belief* that a national election is rigged, when it isn't, might
actually be more harmful than the belief that it isn't, when it is.
Though I don't much treasure the public's tallied "wisdom", I do think
the institution to be an important artifact for a civil society.
-a But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and
highlight all
-a the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after
Trump won
his
-a first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.-a Trump
supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.
So Trump is the evil one here because Hillary is less credible than he
is?
He's the one who's getting traction.
---a-a-a which imperils what little trust remains for-a Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in >>>> itself.
-a our once-cherished institutions.
-a Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that
are being
-a elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western >>>> -a civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring >>>> down
those
-a once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate >>>> for
-a abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the
Executive
-a Branch... and on and on.
-a But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered who've
flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
When I encounter one, I'll let you know.
Well, I know you've encountered Bill Maher, and James Carville...
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because not
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple >>>>>> instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it >>>>>>>> and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, >>>>>>>>> but can't
-a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom! >>>>>>>>>
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so >>>>>>>>>>> they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a >>>>>>>>>>> farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in California >>>>>>>>>>> and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes] >>>>>>>>>>>
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method >>>>>>>>>>> of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques of >>>>>>>>>>> subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new techniques >>>>>>>>>>> is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, >>>>>>>> the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>>> about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing (and >>>>>>> the
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were
captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, >>>>>> that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage
advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere yards >>>>>> away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with >>>>>> screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a
crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
-a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's >>>>>> -a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer
Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged-
paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and local >>>> officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as
in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute
blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy with
it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some unique >>>>>> black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s
elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to >>>>>> the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-pause- >>>>> pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are
notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless,
of course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you
can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by
Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular bad
guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.-a My
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in
elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied
"wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact for
a civil society.
enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. >
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and
highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after
Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing her as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.-a Against the surreal
fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt I'd have
considered her procedural complaints worth posting about.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in
itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that are
being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring
down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate for >>>> abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the
Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered
who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What??? Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
On 2026-09-27 9:56 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 7:36 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Your selective amnesia is breathtaking. It's widely known that JFK's
On Sep 27, 2026 at 2:43:20 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and >>>>> local
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple >>>>>>> instances of
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from >>>>>>>>> it and
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>> -a-a-a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>> parliament)-a-a-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
this week.
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and >>>>>>>>>>>> so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a
farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>> California and
that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 >>>>>>>>>>>> minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques
of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the
practice
-a-a-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
therefore
-a-a-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, >>>>>>>>> the reptiles
-a pass
-a-a-a a
-a-a-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>>>> about it.
(i.e.,
-a-a-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a-a-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing >>>>>>>> (and the
-a-a-a like) over many, many years.
-a-a-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were >>>>>>> captured on
camera.
-a-a-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be
caught, that they
-a set
-a-a-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage
advertising money
for
-a-a-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere >>>>>>> yards away and
-a when
-a-a-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with >>>>>>> screenshots
-a of
-a-a-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a >>>>>>> crime, the
cops
-a-a-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>> -a-a-a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya >>>>>>> Raman's
-a-a-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer >>>>>>> Pratt )
-a-a-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
-a Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged- >>>>>> paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
-a officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively >>>>> -a participating in it.
-a The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal,
as in that
-a evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute
blatant
election
-a fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy
with it to
do
-a anything about it.
-a But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are >>>>> notorious-a-a-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some >>>>>>> unique black
swan
-a-a-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s >>>>>>> elections in
favor
-a-a-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat >>>>>>> to the status
-a quo,
-a-a-a like Spencer Pratt.
-a And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-
pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
for
-a their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of >>>> course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
-a So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):-a Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you >>>>> can attack
-a ...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
-a elections are fraudulent
-a Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by >>>>> Democrats
at
-a the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular
bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.-a My
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in
elections.
And yet you at best seem to shrug about blatant election fraud when the
perpetrators are leftist-Democrats.
Among all the people I encounter in the course of my daily life, if
the topic
of election fraud comes up, it's the absolute certainty of its
commission here
in California that people say undermines their faith in elections.
Trump's
name never comes up.
Yes, as I said, there's long been occasional fraud at the local level,
but not at the national level ...an important threshold, imo.-a The
*belief* that a national election is rigged, when it isn't, might
actually be more harmful than the belief that it isn't, when it is.
father bought him enough votes to get him over the top and win the 1960 election and that's as federal as these things get.
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word from:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because not
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., multiple >>>>>>> instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from it >>>>>>>>> and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian election, >>>>>>>>>> but can't
-a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom! >>>>>>>>>>
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so >>>>>>>>>>>> they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a >>>>>>>>>>>> farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in California >>>>>>>>>>>> and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian method >>>>>>>>>>>> of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques >>>>>>>>>>>> of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, >>>>>>>>> the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>>>> about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing >>>>>>>> (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were
captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be caught, >>>>>>> that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage
advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere
yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along with >>>>>>> screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a >>>>>>> crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
-a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya Raman's >>>>>>> -a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer >>>>>>> Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-charged- >>>>>> paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and local >>>>> officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as
in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute
blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy
with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some
unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s
elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to >>>>>>> the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-
pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are
notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by 'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless,
of course, that's "proof" that MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you
can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by
Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular bad >>>>> guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.-a My
concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in
elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied
"wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact for
a civil society.
enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. >
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and
highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after
Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing her as
a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.-a Against the
surreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt I'd
have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in
itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that
are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western >>>>> civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring
down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate for >>>>> abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the
Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered
who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On Sep 27, 2026 at 7:12:18 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What??? Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
Trump is no more dishonest or a liar than Gavin Newsom and Newsom seems to have an army behind him wearing those same industrial-grade blinders.
Now if we could only pry *your* blinders off so that you could see all the liars in your midst.
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because not
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A.,
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from >>>>>>>>>> it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino"
-a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and so >>>>>>>>>>>>> they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a >>>>>>>>>>>>> farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques >>>>>>>>>>>>> of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, >>>>>>>>>> the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>>>>> about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing >>>>>>>>> (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
multiple instances of
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were
captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be
caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage
advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere >>>>>>>> yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along >>>>>>>> with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a >>>>>>>> crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv
-a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya >>>>>>>> Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer >>>>>>>> Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-
charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row >>>>>>
local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively >>>>>> participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, as >>>>>> in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute
blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy
with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some
unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s
elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat to >>>>>>>> the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind-
pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are
notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that MBFC >>>>> is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you >>>>>> can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by
Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular
bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.-a My >>>>> concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in
elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied
"wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact
for a civil society.
enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. >
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and
highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after
Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing her
as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.
surreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt I'dStop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word
have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages in >>>>>> itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that
are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western >>>>>> civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to bring >>>>>> down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They advocate >>>>>> for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the
Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered
who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On 2026-09-28 10:58 a.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because not >>>>> enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. >
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and >>>>>>> local
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A.,
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from >>>>>>>>>>> it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>> -a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the bottom!
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest techniques >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the public, >>>>>>>>>>> the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>>>>>> about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing >>>>>>>>>> (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
multiple instances of
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were >>>>>>>>> captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be
caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage
advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere >>>>>>>>> yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along >>>>>>>>> with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a >>>>>>>>> crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>>>> -a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya >>>>>>>>> Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer >>>>>>>>> Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-
charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row >>>>>>>
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively >>>>>>> participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, >>>>>>> as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute
blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy >>>>>>> with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some >>>>>>>>> unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s >>>>>>>>> elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat >>>>>>>>> to the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind- >>>>>>>> pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are >>>>>>> notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that
MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete): >>>>>>>>
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential* >>>>>>>> elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which you >>>>>>> can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by >>>>>>> Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular >>>>>>> bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me.
My concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in
elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied
"wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact
for a civil society.
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and
highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after >>>>>>> Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing her
as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.
In the absence of proof, rather than a hazy recollection, I don't
believe that ever happened. You're too much the "progressive" to dispute anything your "thought leaders" trot out in their narratives.
-aAgainst the
I didn't need a rephrasing, you were perfectly clear in your attempt to manufacture a bandwagon. Whatever YOU and your comrades think aboutsurreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt I'dStop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word
have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders. >>>>>>Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
Trump, he's actually DOING things that have only been talked about for generations now: he's confronting Iran and Cuba and Venezuela in a
serious way and working to replace those horrid regimes with some substantial success. That alone is more than enough to earn him some
credit with me, even if I don't agree with everything he's done.
You HAVE to be a "progressive" at least because I've never ever heard
you even question let alone criticize ANY aspect of their beliefs.
You've bent over backwards for years to defend the indefensible to the
point where the English language has been tortured beyond what happened
in Stalin's darkest dungeons and that's pretty dark. Nobody does that
unless they're a rabid leftist.
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages >>>>>>> in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that >>>>>>> are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy Western >>>>>>> civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to
bring down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They
advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the
Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered
who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word from:
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response. Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word from: >>> YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response. Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that Hillary's election denials are of no consequence because no one believes her, but Trump is a unique threat because so many do believe him.
Now you say you don't think anyone believes what Trump says.
I can't wait to see how you Pigsplain this one.
On 9/28/2026 1:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 10:58 a.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state and >>>>>>>> local
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., >>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit from >>>>>>>>>>>> it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom!
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the >>>>>>>>>>>> public, the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to talk >>>>>>>>>>>> about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing >>>>>>>>>>> (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were >>>>>>>>>> captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be >>>>>>>>>> caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage
advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere >>>>>>>>>> yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along >>>>>>>>>> with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it a >>>>>>>>>> crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>>>>> -a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya >>>>>>>>>> Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated Spencer >>>>>>>>>> Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally-
charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las-skid-row >>>>>>>>
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst actively >>>>>>>> participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, >>>>>>>> as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute >>>>>>>> blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy >>>>>>>> with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some >>>>>>>>>> unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s >>>>>>>>>> elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat >>>>>>>>>> to the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind- >>>>>>>>> pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that are >>>>>>>> notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that
MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete): >>>>>>>>>
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential* >>>>>>>>> elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which >>>>>>>> you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption by >>>>>>>> Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular >>>>>>>> bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me. >>>>>>> My concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in >>>>>>> elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied >>>>>>> "wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact >>>>>>> for a civil society.
not enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. > >>>>>>>> But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and >>>>>>>> highlight all
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial after >>>>>>>> Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing her >>>>> as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.
In the absence of proof, rather than a hazy recollection, I don't
believe that ever happened. You're too much the "progressive" to
dispute anything your "thought leaders" trot out in their narratives.
So, you think that I'm making up recalling comparisons to Al
Gore? ...and that I actually ever believed she'd won?-a If only such a partial escape from the dismal truth had been that easy...
-a-aAgainst the
I didn't need a rephrasing, you were perfectly clear in your attemptsurreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt I'd >>>>> have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about.Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders. >>>>>>>Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
to manufacture a bandwagon. Whatever YOU and your comrades think about
Trump, he's actually DOING things that have only been talked about for
generations now: he's confronting Iran and Cuba and Venezuela in a
serious way and working to replace those horrid regimes with some
substantial success. That alone is more than enough to earn him some
credit with me, even if I don't agree with everything he's done.
You HAVE to be a "progressive" at least because I've never ever heard
you even question let alone criticize ANY aspect of their beliefs.
You've bent over backwards for years to defend the indefensible to the
point where the English language has been tortured beyond what
happened in Stalin's darkest dungeons and that's pretty dark. Nobody
does that unless they're a rabid leftist.
Umm, the question was whether you, or indeed anyone, believes Trump now.
Meanwhile, I think that, say, female genital mutilation has a better historical track record than communism.-a Must I endlessly shout it?
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages >>>>>>>> in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates that >>>>>>>> are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy
Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to
bring down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They
advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the >>>>>>>> Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered >>>>>>> who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
-a On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
-a Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word
-a What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
from:
-a YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that Hillary's election
denials are of no consequence because no one believes her, but Trump is a
unique threat because so many do believe him.
Now you say you don't think anyone believes what Trump says.
I can't wait to see how you Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves to the
stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations comprise.-a (How many,
do you suppose, believe their $5k check to be any more likely than a
Mexican funded border wall?)-a But the conspiracy theories were part of
his original cachet, with a lasting appeal to our paranoia.-a As I've
said, the issue isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word from: >>>> YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response. Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that Hillary's election
denials are of no consequence because no one believes her, but Trump is a >> unique threat because so many do believe him.
Now you say you don't think anyone believes what Trump says.
I can't wait to see how you Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves to the
stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations comprise. (How many,
do you suppose, believe their $5k check to be any more likely than a
Mexican funded border wall?) But the conspiracy theories were part of
his original cachet, with a lasting appeal to our paranoia. As I've
said, the issue isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
On 2026-09-28 1:25 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 10:58 a.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because >>>>>>> not enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. > >>>>>>>>> But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and >>>>>>>>> highlight all
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., >>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>> from it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom!
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> public, the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to >>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot-stuffing >>>>>>>>>>>> (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were >>>>>>>>>>> captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be >>>>>>>>>>> caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage >>>>>>>>>>> advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere >>>>>>>>>>> yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along >>>>>>>>>>> with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it >>>>>>>>>>> a crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>>>>>> -a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya >>>>>>>>>>> Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated >>>>>>>>>>> Spencer Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally- >>>>>>>>>> charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las- >>>>>>>>>> skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state >>>>>>>>> and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst
actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. Federal, >>>>>>>>> as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute >>>>>>>>> blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too cozy >>>>>>>>> with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some >>>>>>>>>>> unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s >>>>>>>>>>> elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any threat >>>>>>>>>>> to the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis:
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind- >>>>>>>>>> pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that >>>>>>>>> are notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that >>>>>>>> MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete): >>>>>>>>>>
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential* >>>>>>>>>> elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which >>>>>>>>> you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption >>>>>>>>> by Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the singular >>>>>>>>> bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me. >>>>>>>> My concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith in >>>>>>>> elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's tallied >>>>>>>> "wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important artifact >>>>>>>> for a civil society.
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial
after Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself?
The difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing
her as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.
In the absence of proof, rather than a hazy recollection, I don't
believe that ever happened. You're too much the "progressive" to
dispute anything your "thought leaders" trot out in their narratives.
So, you think that I'm making up recalling comparisons to Al
Gore? ...and that I actually ever believed she'd won?-a If only such a
partial escape from the dismal truth had been that easy...
-a-aAgainst the
I didn't need a rephrasing, you were perfectly clear in your attemptsurreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubtStop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word
I'd have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about. >>>>>>
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade blinders. >>>>>>>>Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump
any more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
to manufacture a bandwagon. Whatever YOU and your comrades think
about Trump, he's actually DOING things that have only been talked
about for generations now: he's confronting Iran and Cuba and
Venezuela in a serious way and working to replace those horrid
regimes with some substantial success. That alone is more than enough
to earn him some credit with me, even if I don't agree with
everything he's done.
You HAVE to be a "progressive" at least because I've never ever heard
you even question let alone criticize ANY aspect of their beliefs.
You've bent over backwards for years to defend the indefensible to
the point where the English language has been tortured beyond what
happened in Stalin's darkest dungeons and that's pretty dark. Nobody
does that unless they're a rabid leftist.
Umm, the question was whether you, or indeed anyone, believes Trump now.
The question is so vague as to be meaningless. Taken literally, you'd
have me believe that EVERYONE (in America? in the world?) thinks every
word out of Trump's mouth is a categorical lie. If he says "Good
morning", it's actually not morning. If he says "It's Monday", it's some other day. That's preposterous on the face of it. Trump retains
supporters, some of whom presumably believe all or most of what he says. That alone puts the lie to your claim.>
Meanwhile, I think that, say, female genital mutilation has a better"FGM has a better historical track record than communism": for whom? Certainly not the woman involved. You're comparing apples and oranges.
historical track record than communism.-a Must I endlessly shout it?
Both communism and FGM were cruelly devastating to their victims. The
only difference is the scale.
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly engages >>>>>>>>> in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates >>>>>>>>> that are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy >>>>>>>>> Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to >>>>>>>>> bring down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They
advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the >>>>>>>>> Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've encountered >>>>>>>> who've flatly declared Mamdani et al. unconscionable...
On Sep 28, 2026 at 12:25:27 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word from:
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response. Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any >>>> more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that Hillary's election >>> denials are of no consequence because no one believes her, but Trump is a >>> unique threat because so many do believe him.
Now you say you don't think anyone believes what Trump says.
I can't wait to see how you Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves to the
stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations comprise. (How many,
do you suppose, believe their $5k check to be any more likely than a
Mexican funded border wall?) But the conspiracy theories were part of
his original cachet, with a lasting appeal to our paranoia. As I've
said, the issue isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
While ignoring everyone else, from the legacy media to the leftist politicians
to the communist activists, all of whose lies undermine institutions and public discourse.
On 9/28/2026 4:46 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 1:25 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 10:58 a.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because >>>>>>>> not enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. > >>>>>>>>>> But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and >>>>>>>>>> highlight all
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., >>>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.-a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom!
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> public, the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot- >>>>>>>>>>>>> stuffing (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were >>>>>>>>>>>> captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be >>>>>>>>>>>> caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage >>>>>>>>>>>> advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked mere >>>>>>>>>>>> yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, along >>>>>>>>>>>> with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make it >>>>>>>>>>>> a crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>>>>>>> -a And guess what part of the city communist candidate Nithya >>>>>>>>>>>> Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated >>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally- >>>>>>>>>>> charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las- >>>>>>>>>>> skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state >>>>>>>>>> and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst >>>>>>>>>> actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor.
Federal, as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute >>>>>>>>>> blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too >>>>>>>>>> cozy with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some >>>>>>>>>>>> unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s >>>>>>>>>>>> elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any >>>>>>>>>>>> threat to the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis: >>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud-behind- >>>>>>>>>>> pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that >>>>>>>>>> are notorious for
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that >>>>>>>>> MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete): >>>>>>>>>>>
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential* >>>>>>>>>>> elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which >>>>>>>>>> you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption >>>>>>>>>> by Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the
singular bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about me. >>>>>>>>> My concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of faith >>>>>>>>> in elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the public's >>>>>>>>> tallied "wisdom", I do think the institution to be an important >>>>>>>>> artifact for a civil society.
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial >>>>>>>>>> after Trump won hisThe difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself? >>>>>>>>>
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing >>>>>>> her as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.
In the absence of proof, rather than a hazy recollection, I don't
believe that ever happened. You're too much the "progressive" to
dispute anything your "thought leaders" trot out in their narratives.
So, you think that I'm making up recalling comparisons to Al
Gore? ...and that I actually ever believed she'd won?-a If only such a
partial escape from the dismal truth had been that easy...
-a-aAgainst the
I didn't need a rephrasing, you were perfectly clear in your attemptsurreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt >>>>>>> I'd have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about. >>>>>>>Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word >>>>>> from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-gradeOtherwise known as bullshit filters.
blinders.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump
any more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
to manufacture a bandwagon. Whatever YOU and your comrades think
about Trump, he's actually DOING things that have only been talked
about for generations now: he's confronting Iran and Cuba and
Venezuela in a serious way and working to replace those horrid
regimes with some substantial success. That alone is more than
enough to earn him some credit with me, even if I don't agree with
everything he's done.
You HAVE to be a "progressive" at least because I've never ever
heard you even question let alone criticize ANY aspect of their
beliefs. You've bent over backwards for years to defend the
indefensible to the point where the English language has been
tortured beyond what happened in Stalin's darkest dungeons and
that's pretty dark. Nobody does that unless they're a rabid leftist.
Umm, the question was whether you, or indeed anyone, believes Trump now.
The question is so vague as to be meaningless. Taken literally, you'd
have me believe that EVERYONE (in America? in the world?) thinks every
word out of Trump's mouth is a categorical lie. If he says "Good
morning", it's actually not morning. If he says "It's Monday", it's
some other day. That's preposterous on the face of it. Trump retains
supporters, some of whom presumably believe all or most of what he
says. That alone puts the lie to your claim.>
Meanwhile, I think that, say, female genital mutilation has a better"FGM has a better historical track record than communism": for whom?
historical track record than communism.-a Must I endlessly shout it?
Certainly not the woman involved. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Both communism and FGM were cruelly devastating to their victims. The
only difference is the scale.
Apparently, my attempt at hyperbole didn't land.
Perhaps, instead of
FGM, I should've said 'bestiality'.
Anyhow, maybe this will clarify some re Trump's lying:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/11/trump-voters-like-lying- deception-feature/
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly
engages in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates >>>>>>>>>> that are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy >>>>>>>>>> Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to >>>>>>>>>> bring down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They >>>>>>>>>> advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the >>>>>>>>>> Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've
encountered who've flatly declared Mamdani et al.
unconscionable...
On 9/28/2026 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 12:25:27 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
-a On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:-a Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that Hillary's
-a-a-a On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
-a-a-a Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a >>>>>> word from:
-a-a-a What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says... >>>>>>>
-a-a-a YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
-a An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
-a response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump >>>>> any
-a more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
election
-a denials are of no consequence because no one believes her, but
Trump is a
-a unique threat because so many do believe him.
-a Now you say you don't think anyone believes what Trump says.
-a I can't wait to see how you Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves to the
stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations comprise.-a (How many, >>> do you suppose, believe their $5k check to be any more likely than a
Mexican funded border wall?)-a But the conspiracy theories were part of
his original cachet, with a lasting appeal to our paranoia.-a As I've
said, the issue isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
While ignoring everyone else, from the legacy media to the leftist
politicians
to the communist activists, all of whose lies undermine institutions and
public discourse.
The qualitative difference is that, when the press lies, it's news, but
when Trump lies, it's business as usual.
-a You may not think that's an
*important* qualitative difference, but I do.-a Otoh, who knows?-a Maybe there'll be an eventual backlash with lasting effect...
On 9/28/2026 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 12:25:27 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >>
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word from:
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says... >>>>>>>
YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response. Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any >>>>> more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that Hillary's election >>>> denials are of no consequence because no one believes her, but Trump is a
unique threat because so many do believe him.
Now you say you don't think anyone believes what Trump says.
I can't wait to see how you Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves to the
stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations comprise. (How many, >>> do you suppose, believe their $5k check to be any more likely than a
Mexican funded border wall?) But the conspiracy theories were part of
his original cachet, with a lasting appeal to our paranoia. As I've
said, the issue isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
While ignoring everyone else, from the legacy media to the leftist
politicians
to the communist activists, all of whose lies undermine institutions and
public discourse.
The qualitative difference is that, when the press lies, it's news, but
when Trump lies, it's business as usual.
On 2026-09-28 6:22 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 4:46 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 1:25 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 10:58 a.m., moviePig wrote:So, you think that I'm making up recalling comparisons to Al
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you because >>>>>>>>> not enough of them are voting for the "progressive" candidates. > >>>>>>>>>>> But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back and >>>>>>>>>>> highlight all
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., >>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a <no_offline_contact@example.com>
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the national >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parliament) this week.
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public, the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuffing (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were >>>>>>>>>>>>> captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage >>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked >>>>>>>>>>>>> mere yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, >>>>>>>>>>>>> along with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make >>>>>>>>>>>>> it a crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>>>>>>>> -a And guess what part of the city communist candidate >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nithya Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated >>>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally- >>>>>>>>>>>> charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las- >>>>>>>>>>>> skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state >>>>>>>>>>> and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst >>>>>>>>>>> actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor.
Federal, as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and prosecute >>>>>>>>>>> blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too >>>>>>>>>>> cozy with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that >>>>>>>>>>> are notorious for-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't some >>>>>>>>>>>>> unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging L.A.'s >>>>>>>>>>>>> elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any >>>>>>>>>>>>> threat to the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis: >>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud- >>>>>>>>>>>> behind- pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/ >>>>>>>>>>>
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" that >>>>>>>>>> MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete): >>>>>>>>>>>>
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential* >>>>>>>>>>>> elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for which >>>>>>>>>>> you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual* corruption >>>>>>>>>>> by Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the
singular bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about >>>>>>>>>> me. My concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of >>>>>>>>>> faith in elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the
public's tallied "wisdom", I do think the institution to be an >>>>>>>>>> important artifact for a civil society.
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial >>>>>>>>>>> after Trump won hisThe difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself? >>>>>>>>>>
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism.
It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing >>>>>>>> her as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.
In the absence of proof, rather than a hazy recollection, I don't
believe that ever happened. You're too much the "progressive" to
dispute anything your "thought leaders" trot out in their narratives. >>>>
Gore? ...and that I actually ever believed she'd won?-a If only such
a partial escape from the dismal truth had been that easy...
-a-aAgainst the
I didn't need a rephrasing, you were perfectly clear in yoursurreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt >>>>>>>> I'd have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about. >>>>>>>>Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word >>>>>>> from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade >>>>>>>>>> blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says...
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous
response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump >>>>>> any more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
attempt to manufacture a bandwagon. Whatever YOU and your comrades
think about Trump, he's actually DOING things that have only been
talked about for generations now: he's confronting Iran and Cuba
and Venezuela in a serious way and working to replace those horrid
regimes with some substantial success. That alone is more than
enough to earn him some credit with me, even if I don't agree with
everything he's done.
You HAVE to be a "progressive" at least because I've never ever
heard you even question let alone criticize ANY aspect of their
beliefs. You've bent over backwards for years to defend the
indefensible to the point where the English language has been
tortured beyond what happened in Stalin's darkest dungeons and
that's pretty dark. Nobody does that unless they're a rabid leftist.
Umm, the question was whether you, or indeed anyone, believes Trump
now.
The question is so vague as to be meaningless. Taken literally, you'd
have me believe that EVERYONE (in America? in the world?) thinks
every word out of Trump's mouth is a categorical lie. If he says
"Good morning", it's actually not morning. If he says "It's Monday",
it's some other day. That's preposterous on the face of it. Trump
retains supporters, some of whom presumably believe all or most of
what he says. That alone puts the lie to your claim.>
Meanwhile, I think that, say, female genital mutilation has a better"FGM has a better historical track record than communism": for whom?
historical track record than communism.-a Must I endlessly shout it?
Certainly not the woman involved. You're comparing apples and
oranges. Both communism and FGM were cruelly devastating to their
victims. The only difference is the scale.
Apparently, my attempt at hyperbole didn't land.
Do you think I don't realize that you're calling me stupid
your "argument" - to be extremely charitable - didn't make sense? The
first thing I learned when I was taking Train the Trainer courses is
that if the other person doesn't take your words the way you meant them,
the first person to look at is YOURSELF, rather than blaming the other person/people for being idiots. But an arrogant dick like you can't even conceive of the possibility that you failed to make your point well.
Perhaps, instead of FGM, I should've said 'bestiality'.You're still not making sense. Bestiality, communism, and FGM are all
awful.
Now let me get to my point a different way: cite just one thing that you believe that *differs* from "progressive".
Anyhow, maybe this will clarify some re Trump's lying:Mother Jones? Seriously? Why not just quote the Communist Manifesto? If that's your go to for "truth", no wonder you're so extreme in your
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/11/trump-voters-like-lying-
deception-feature/
views....
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-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly >>>>>>>>>>> engages in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates >>>>>>>>>>> that are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy >>>>>>>>>>> Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to >>>>>>>>>>> bring down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They >>>>>>>>>>> advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, >>>>>>>>>>> the Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've
encountered who've flatly declared Mamdani et al.
unconscionable...
On 2026-09-28 6:32 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 12:25:27 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't
What??? Surely you don't still believe a word Trump
says...
believe a word from: YOU and your "progressive"
comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a
vacuous response. Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone*
believes Trump any more, and I'm frankly surprised you
apparently claim to.
Hillary's election denials are of no consequence because no
one believes her, but Trump is a unique threat because so
many do believe him. Now you say you don't think anyone
believes what Trump says. I can't wait to see how you
Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves
to the stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations
comprise. (How many, do you suppose, believe their $5k check
to be any more likely than a Mexican funded border wall?) But
the conspiracy theories were part of his original cachet, with
a lasting appeal to our paranoia. As I've said, the issue
isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
While ignoring everyone else, from the legacy media to the
leftist politicians to the communist activists, all of whose
lies undermine institutions and public discourse.
The qualitative difference is that, when the press lies, it's
news, but when Trump lies, it's business as usual.
Horseshit! When the press lies, it's a day ending in "y". Trump
lying is a good bit less frequent.
You may not think that's an *important* qualitative difference,
but I do. Otoh, who knows? Maybe there'll be an eventual
backlash with lasting effect...
Trump is going to be out of office on Jan 20 2029, not eligible to
run again. That alone is going to end his major influence on
politics in your country. Presumably, given his age, he won't live
too far beyond that. Then you'll definitely have seen the end of
him. You only have to be patient.
On 9/28/2026 7:45 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 6:22 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 4:46 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 1:25 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 10:58 a.m., moviePig wrote:So, you think that I'm making up recalling comparisons to Al
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically dismissing >>>>>>>>> her as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to Al Gore.
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., >>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a <no_offline_contact@example.com>-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> national parliament) this week.
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw [22 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public, the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".)
-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuffing (and the
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote were >>>>>>>>>>>>>> captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mere yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it a crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a And guess what part of the city communist candidate >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nithya Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally- >>>>>>>>>>>>> charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las- >>>>>>>>>>>>> skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the state >>>>>>>>>>>> and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst >>>>>>>>>>>> actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. >>>>>>>>>>>> Federal, as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and
prosecute blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too >>>>>>>>>>>> cozy with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets that >>>>>>>>>>>> are notorious for-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging >>>>>>>>>>>>>> L.A.'s elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat to the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud- >>>>>>>>>>>>> behind- pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/ >>>>>>>>>>>>
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" >>>>>>>>>>> that MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to delete): >>>>>>>>>>>>>
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that *presidential* >>>>>>>>>>>>> elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for >>>>>>>>>>>> which you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual*
corruption by Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the >>>>>>>>>>>> singular bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about >>>>>>>>>>> me. My concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of >>>>>>>>>>> faith in elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the >>>>>>>>>>> public's tallied "wisdom", I do think the institution to be >>>>>>>>>>> an important artifact for a civil society.
because not enough of them are voting for the "progressive" >>>>>>>>>> candidates. >
But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back >>>>>>>>>>>> and highlight allThe difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her.
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial >>>>>>>>>>>> after Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself? >>>>>>>>>>>
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism. >>>>>>>>>
In the absence of proof, rather than a hazy recollection, I don't >>>>>> believe that ever happened. You're too much the "progressive" to
dispute anything your "thought leaders" trot out in their narratives. >>>>>
Gore? ...and that I actually ever believed she'd won?-a If only such >>>>> a partial escape from the dismal truth had been that easy...
-a-aAgainst theUmm, the question was whether you, or indeed anyone, believes Trump >>>>> now.
I didn't need a rephrasing, you were perfectly clear in yoursurreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I doubt >>>>>>>>> I'd have considered her procedural complaints worth posting about. >>>>>>>>>Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade >>>>>>>>>>> blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says... >>>>>>>>>
word from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous >>>>>>> response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump >>>>>>> any more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
attempt to manufacture a bandwagon. Whatever YOU and your comrades >>>>>> think about Trump, he's actually DOING things that have only been >>>>>> talked about for generations now: he's confronting Iran and Cuba
and Venezuela in a serious way and working to replace those horrid >>>>>> regimes with some substantial success. That alone is more than
enough to earn him some credit with me, even if I don't agree with >>>>>> everything he's done.
You HAVE to be a "progressive" at least because I've never ever
heard you even question let alone criticize ANY aspect of their
beliefs. You've bent over backwards for years to defend the
indefensible to the point where the English language has been
tortured beyond what happened in Stalin's darkest dungeons and
that's pretty dark. Nobody does that unless they're a rabid leftist. >>>>>
The question is so vague as to be meaningless. Taken literally,
you'd have me believe that EVERYONE (in America? in the world?)
thinks every word out of Trump's mouth is a categorical lie. If he
says "Good morning", it's actually not morning. If he says "It's
Monday", it's some other day. That's preposterous on the face of it.
Trump retains supporters, some of whom presumably believe all or
most of what he says. That alone puts the lie to your claim.>
Meanwhile, I think that, say, female genital mutilation has a"FGM has a better historical track record than communism": for whom?
better historical track record than communism.-a Must I endlessly
shout it?
Certainly not the woman involved. You're comparing apples and
oranges. Both communism and FGM were cruelly devastating to their
victims. The only difference is the scale.
Apparently, my attempt at hyperbole didn't land.
Do you think I don't realize that you're calling me stupid
(Telling someone they're 'stupid' is self-contradictory.)
, just because
your "argument" - to be extremely charitable - didn't make sense? The
first thing I learned when I was taking Train the Trainer courses is
that if the other person doesn't take your words the way you meant
them, the first person to look at is YOURSELF, rather than blaming the
other person/people for being idiots. But an arrogant dick like you
can't even conceive of the possibility that you failed to make your
point well.
Perhaps, instead of FGM, I should've said 'bestiality'.You're still not making sense. Bestiality, communism, and FGM are all
awful.
So, you *did* get my point, but just want to think you made it.
Now let me get to my point a different way: cite just one thing that
you believe that *differs* from "progressive".
Anyhow, maybe this will clarify some re Trump's lying:Mother Jones? Seriously? Why not just quote the Communist Manifesto?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/11/trump-voters-like-lying-
deception-feature/
If that's your go to for "truth", no wonder you're so extreme in your
views....
You think Trump voters *don't* excuse his lying?-a I cited the article
only to show that the *fact* that he lies is no longer debated.-a Maybe
you can find one that says the accusations of lying are unfounded.
--
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly >>>>>>>>>>>> engages in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates >>>>>>>>>>>> that are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to destroy >>>>>>>>>>>> Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is to >>>>>>>>>>>> bring down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They >>>>>>>>>>>> advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, >>>>>>>>>>>> the Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've
encountered who've flatly declared Mamdani et al.
unconscionable...
On 9/28/2026 7:50 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 6:32 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 12:25:27 PM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump
says...
believe a word from: YOU and your "progressive"
comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a
vacuous response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone*
believes Trump any more, and I'm frankly surprised you
apparently claim to.
Hillary's election denials are of no consequence because no
one believes her, but Trump is a unique threat because so
many do believe him. Now you say you don't think anyone
believes what Trump says. I can't wait to see how you
Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves
to the stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations
comprise.-a (How many, do you suppose, believe their $5k check
to be any more likely than a Mexican funded border wall?)-a But
the conspiracy theories were part of his original cachet, with
a lasting appeal to our paranoia.-a As I've said, the issue
isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
While ignoring everyone else, from the legacy media to the
leftist politicians to the communist activists, all of whose
lies undermine institutions and public discourse.
The qualitative difference is that, when the press lies, it's
news, but when Trump lies, it's business as usual.
Horseshit! When the press lies, it's a day ending in "y". Trump
lying is a good bit less frequent.
This, from Google's AI, may be of help:
-a-a Conflating Bias with Lying: Political science experts note that while mainstream media outlets often display distinct ideological or selective slants in what they choose to highlight, reporting a slanted or
incomplete story is legally and definitionally different from a
deliberate lie. Reputable outlets generally retract or correct factual
errors when they are proven wrong.
You may not think that's an *important* qualitative difference,
but I do.-a Otoh, who knows?-a Maybe there'll be an eventual
backlash with lasting effect...
Trump is going to be out of office on Jan 20 2029, not eligible to
run again. That alone is going to end his major influence on
politics in your country. Presumably, given his age, he won't live
too far beyond that. Then you'll definitely have seen the end of
him. You only have to be patient.
I don't like the precedents he's set.
"The evil that men do lives after them..." - Shakespeare
On 2026-09-28 10:58 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 7:50 PM, Rhino wrote:
. . .
Horseshit! When the press lies, it's a day ending in "y". Trump
lying is a good bit less frequent.
This, from Google's AI, may be of help:
Conflating Bias with Lying: Political science experts note that while >>mainstream media outlets often display distinct ideological or selective >>slants in what they choose to highlight, reporting a slanted or
incomplete story is legally and definitionally different from a
deliberate lie. Reputable outlets generally retract or correct factual >>errors when they are proven wrong.
So the media is *only* biased, not really lying through their teeth, at >least most of the time (the last sentence of the quote implicitly admits >that reputable outlets only "generally" retract or correct factual
errors, meaning that they don't always do so.)
Well, I'm sure that's a
wonderful achievement for them but it's hardly something to crow about. >There was a time the media were NOT supposed to put their thumb on the
scale by skewing coverage for or against the person they were reporting
on. Those days are clearly long gone: now the media proudly takes an >oppositional stance - at least when Republicans are in office - while >covering for the government when Democrats are in office. Whoever
described media people as "Democrats with press passes" certainly had it >right.
As for Trump, your lot have been entirely oblivious with respect to his >trolling. On many occasions, he's clearly been saying preposterous
things just to get a rise out of you. As the host of Tousi TV is fond of >saying "Take Trump seriously but not literally." You "progressives" are >notoriously humourless and beclown yourselves by taking everything Trump >says literally.
I don't like the precedents he's set.
"The evil that men do lives after them..." - Shakespeare
I didn't like some of the precedents Clinton, Obama and Biden set
either. So what? Subsequent presidents can reverse those precedents when >they get into office. That's the nature of politics in a democracy. The >pendulum swings both left and right.
On 2026-09-28 10:48 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 7:45 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 6:22 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 4:46 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 1:25 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-28 10:58 a.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
On 9/27/2026 8:14 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 5:43 p.m., moviePig wrote:It's a while back, but my recall is of automatically
On 9/27/2026 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:In other words, the voters are sorely disappointing you >>>>>>>>>>> because not enough of them are voting for the "progressive" >>>>>>>>>>> candidates. >
On Sep 27, 2026 at 8:11:36 AM PDT, "moviePig"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/26/2026 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 2:41:58 PM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
-a On 9/26/2026 5:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:-a In the run-up to the most recent mayoral race in L.A., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple instances of
-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 11:20:06 AM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:-a I don't doubt that there's been occasional ballot- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuffing (and the
-a-a-a On 9/26/2026 12:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a-a-a-a-a On Sep 26, 2026 at 9:03:20 AM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a <no_offline_contact@example.com>-a-a-a We can, but the reptiles running the system benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it and therefore
-a-a-a-a-a wrote:
-a-a-a-a-a Russia held elections for the Duma (the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> national parliament) this week.
-a-a-a-a-a Russia *is* a democracy - or so Putin claims - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so they staged an
-a-a-a-a-a election; no prize for guessing who won. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what a farce it was! The
-a-a-a-a-a levels of corruption exceeded even those in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> California and that's saying
-a-a-a-a-a something!
-a-a-a-a-a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GueJMgDuMWw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [22 minutes]
-a-a-a-a-a I'm sure the Democrats are studying the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian method of elections
-a-a-a-a-a eagerly so that they can learn the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques of subverting
-a-a-a-a-a democracy. I think my favourite of those new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques is the practice
-a-a-a-a-a of the government voting for you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a-a-a-a-a We're doing that in L.A.! We win the race to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bottom!
-a-a-a How are we able to prove subversion of a Russian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> election, but can't
-a-a-a prove it of one our own?
-a-a-a ignore the proof.
-a-a-a And if some independent citizen exposes it to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public, the reptiles
pass
-a a
-a-a-a blatantly unconstitutional law making it a crime to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about it. (i.e.,
-a-a-a California's "Stop Nick Shirley Act".) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
-a like) over many, many years.
-a 'progressive' NGOs paying Skid Row vagrants to vote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were captured on camera.
-a They're so blatant about it, so confident they won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught, that they
set
-a up sidewalk tables right out in the open with signage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising money for
-a votes. In one instance, an LAPD patrol car was parked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mere yards away and
when
-a the journalist went over and pointed it out to cops, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with screenshots
of
-a both the California and federal code sections that make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it a crime, the cops
-a shrugged and said they'd been told to leave them alone.vv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -a And guess what part of the city communist candidate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nithya Raman's
-a odds-defying last-minute vote surge (that eliminated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spencer Pratt )
-a originated from? I'll give you one guess.
Afaics, that event was recognized and prosecuted:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-woman-federally- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> charged- paying-individuals-including-homeless-people-las- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> skid-row
Yes, the U.S. Attorney had to get involved because the >>>>>>>>>>>>> state and local
officials were at best turning a blind eye to it, at worst >>>>>>>>>>>>> actively
participating in it.
The U.S. Attorney... you know, the federal prosecutor. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Federal, as in that
evol, evol Trump administration. Had to come in and >>>>>>>>>>>>> prosecute blatant election
fraud because the state and local governments were way too >>>>>>>>>>>>> cozy with it to do
anything about it.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Quoting me articles from legacy corporate media outlets >>>>>>>>>>>>> that are notorious for-a The corruption has been well-documented and it isn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some unique black swan
-a event. It's an entire machine dedicated to rigging >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> L.A.'s elections in favor
-a of hard-Left Democrats and to the elimination of any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat to the status
quo,
-a like Spencer Pratt.
And the Pratt-fall appears to have a non-nefarious basis: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/data-lag-not-fraud- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind- pause- pratts-vote-la-primary-count-2026-06-12/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
their leftist bias is not scoring you any points.
'Reuters' is rated "Least Biased" by
'MediaBiasFactCheck' ...unless, of course, that's "proof" >>>>>>>>>>>> that MBFC is in on it, too.
So, I repeat my concern (which you found necessary to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete):
...the main concern today is Trump's claim that
*presidential*
elections are fraudulent
Oh, so now we're limiting the criteria to only that for >>>>>>>>>>>>> which you can attack
Trump. Gotcha. We'll just exclude all the *actual*
corruption by Democrats at
the state and local level so we can paint Trump as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> singular bad guy.
No, I give no more of a shit about Trump than he does about >>>>>>>>>>>> me. My concern is the (unwarranted, I hope) general loss of >>>>>>>>>>>> faith in elections. -a-aThough I don't much treasure the >>>>>>>>>>>> public's tallied "wisdom", I do think the institution to be >>>>>>>>>>>> an important artifact for a civil society.
Oh really? Show me one post where you expressed skepticism. >>>>>>>>>>But hey, I'll play your game. Do I really have to go back >>>>>>>>>>>>> and highlight allThe difference being that, iirc, we didn't believe her. >>>>>>>>>>>
the Democrats that engaged in presidential election denial >>>>>>>>>>>>> after Trump won his
first term? Most prominent among them being Hillary herself? >>>>>>>>>>>>
dismissing her as a sore loser, possibly with comparisons to >>>>>>>>>> Al Gore.
In the absence of proof, rather than a hazy recollection, I don't >>>>>>> believe that ever happened. You're too much the "progressive" to >>>>>>> dispute anything your "thought leaders" trot out in their
narratives.
So, you think that I'm making up recalling comparisons to Al
Gore? ...and that I actually ever believed she'd won?-a If only
such a partial escape from the dismal truth had been that easy...
-a-aAgainst theUmm, the question was whether you, or indeed anyone, believes
I didn't need a rephrasing, you were perfectly clear in yoursurreal fact that a shit-ton of people voted for Trump, I >>>>>>>>>> doubt I'd have considered her procedural complaints worth >>>>>>>>>> posting about.Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a >>>>>>>>> word from: YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
Trump supporters, otoh, seem fitted with industrial-grade >>>>>>>>>>>> blinders.Otherwise known as bullshit filters.
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says... >>>>>>>>>>
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous >>>>>>>> response.-a Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes
Trump any more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to. >>>>>>>>
attempt to manufacture a bandwagon. Whatever YOU and your
comrades think about Trump, he's actually DOING things that have >>>>>>> only been talked about for generations now: he's confronting Iran >>>>>>> and Cuba and Venezuela in a serious way and working to replace
those horrid regimes with some substantial success. That alone is >>>>>>> more than enough to earn him some credit with me, even if I don't >>>>>>> agree with everything he's done.
You HAVE to be a "progressive" at least because I've never ever >>>>>>> heard you even question let alone criticize ANY aspect of their >>>>>>> beliefs. You've bent over backwards for years to defend the
indefensible to the point where the English language has been
tortured beyond what happened in Stalin's darkest dungeons and
that's pretty dark. Nobody does that unless they're a rabid leftist. >>>>>>
Trump now.
The question is so vague as to be meaningless. Taken literally,
you'd have me believe that EVERYONE (in America? in the world?)
thinks every word out of Trump's mouth is a categorical lie. If he
says "Good morning", it's actually not morning. If he says "It's
Monday", it's some other day. That's preposterous on the face of
it. Trump retains supporters, some of whom presumably believe all
or most of what he says. That alone puts the lie to your claim.>
Meanwhile, I think that, say, female genital mutilation has a"FGM has a better historical track record than communism": for
better historical track record than communism.-a Must I endlessly >>>>>> shout it?
whom? Certainly not the woman involved. You're comparing apples and >>>>> oranges. Both communism and FGM were cruelly devastating to their
victims. The only difference is the scale.
Apparently, my attempt at hyperbole didn't land.
Do you think I don't realize that you're calling me stupid
(Telling someone they're 'stupid' is self-contradictory.)
That assertion contains absolutely no logic at all so I will not debate
it, just observe it.
The remark you made was "Apparently, my attempt at hyperbole didn't
land." That is just how you have chosen to tell me that I'm stupid
because, in your arrogant fashion, you believe yourself to be a purveyor
of Truth and unequaled eloquence so if anyone failed to grasp your
point, they must be intellectually dim.>
Your point was that there are lots of evil things in the world? My
, just because
your "argument" - to be extremely charitable - didn't make sense? The
first thing I learned when I was taking Train the Trainer courses is
that if the other person doesn't take your words the way you meant
them, the first person to look at is YOURSELF, rather than blaming
the other person/people for being idiots. But an arrogant dick like
you can't even conceive of the possibility that you failed to make
your point well.
Perhaps, instead of FGM, I should've said 'bestiality'.You're still not making sense. Bestiality, communism, and FGM are all
awful.
So, you *did* get my point, but just want to think you made it.
goodness this is a revelation of a profundity to shake the whole world.
You really need to get a major award of some kind for that insight!
Now let me get to my point a different way: cite just one thing that
you believe that *differs* from "progressive".
Well, look at that: no reply to that little challenge. I can only take
this as an admission that you *are* "progressive". Quod Erat Demonstratum.
It's no longer debated by a far left rag like Mother Jones. I feel sure there are plenty of outlets that would differ.Anyhow, maybe this will clarify some re Trump's lying:Mother Jones? Seriously? Why not just quote the Communist Manifesto?
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/11/trump-voters-like-
lying- deception-feature/
If that's your go to for "truth", no wonder you're so extreme in your
views....
You think Trump voters *don't* excuse his lying?-a I cited the article
only to show that the *fact* that he lies is no longer debated.-a Maybe
you can find one that says the accusations of lying are unfounded.
-a which imperils what little trust remains for
our once-cherished institutions.
Once again the Left condemns behavior that it blatantly >>>>>>>>>>>>> engages in itself.
Hell, it's the stated *goal* of the far-Left DSA candidates >>>>>>>>>>>>> that are being
elected to Congress from these deep-blue hellpits to >>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy Western
civilization and one of their main methods of doing so is >>>>>>>>>>>>> to bring down those
once-cherished institutions you're so worried about. They >>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate for
abolishing police, prisons, the Senate, the Supreme Court, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Executive
Branch... and on and on.
But it's Trump that's the problem here, you say.
Stop and remind yourself of recent "leftists" you've
encountered who've flatly declared Mamdani et al.
unconscionable...
On Sep 28, 2026 at 3:32:01 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/28/2026 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 12:25:27 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/28/2026 1:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 28, 2026 at 7:58:03 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 9/27/2026 11:03 PM, Rhino wrote:
On 2026-09-27 10:12 p.m., moviePig wrote:
Stop calling me Shirley. I'll tell you who I don't believe a word from:
What???-a Surely you don't still believe a word Trump says... >>>>>>>>
YOU and your "progressive" comrades.
An old Leslie Nielsen joke and commie-whistling seems a vacuous >>>>>> response. Let me rephrase: I don't think *anyone* believes Trump any
more, and I'm frankly surprised you apparently claim to.
Wait a minute. Just yesterday you were claiming that Hillary's election
denials are of no consequence because no one believes her, but Trump is a
unique threat because so many do believe him.
Now you say you don't think anyone believes what Trump says.
I can't wait to see how you Pigsplain this one.
I think even Trump's followers have by now resigned themselves to the >>>> stream of unconsciousness that his daily orations comprise. (How many, >>>> do you suppose, believe their $5k check to be any more likely than a >>>> Mexican funded border wall?) But the conspiracy theories were part of >>>> his original cachet, with a lasting appeal to our paranoia. As I've >>>> said, the issue isn't Trump, it's the lack of basic trust he's sown.
While ignoring everyone else, from the legacy media to the leftist
politicians
to the communist activists, all of whose lies undermine institutions and >>> public discourse.
The qualitative difference is that, when the press lies, it's news, but
when Trump lies, it's business as usual.
Hahahahahahaha!
Good one. The idea that media dishonesty is some rare unicorn that stuns us all with its uniqueness. Wow, you should take that act on the road.
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