Solved: Why Poor States Are Red and Rich States Are Blue
From
Ted Shaw@tshaw2@gmail.com to
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Solved: Why Poor States Are Red and Rich States Are Blue
One of the great conundrums of the American political scene is why the
poorer states, colloquially known as "red" states, tend to vote Republican
or conservative, while the richer states, the "blue" ones (and let it be
said that this is very confusing for this European, for over here the
colours tend to work the other way around, red is Labour, or left wing)
tend to vote Democrat. We would think that it should be the other way
around, the poor people voting for more from that Great Big Pinata which is government. But it seems that there's a simple solution to this: the red states aren't actually poorer in terms of the way people live.
If we measure by consumption patterns then it's the blue states that are
poor, the red states that are rich:
Blue states, like California, New York and Illinois, whose economies turn
on finance, trade and knowledge, are generally richer than red states. But
red states, like Texas, Georgia and Utah, have done a better job over all
of offering a higher standard of living relative to housing costs. That
basic economic fact not only helps explain why the nation's electoral map
got so much redder in the November midterm elections, but also why
America's prosperity is in jeopardy.
Red state economies based on energy extraction, agriculture and suburban sprawl may have lower wages, higher poverty rates and lower levels of education on average than those of blue states u but their residents also benefit from much lower costs of living. For a middle-class person , the American dream of a big house with a backyard and a couple of cars is much more achievable in low-tax Arizona than in deep-blue Massachusetts. As Jed Kolko, chief economist of Trulia, recently noted, housing costs almost
twice as much in deep-blue markets ($227 per square foot) than in red
markets ($119).
That particular piece then goes on to chunter away about how appalling it
is that people aren't willing to vote for more blue state type of policies
and how this will be the end of America. However, the really interesting
part of it is that part quoted above. For it speaks to something that economists just keep trying to point out to people. Yes, sure, income inequality might be important in a way, wealth inequality should have a
place in our thoughts. But what really matters to people about how life is lived is consumption. Levels of consumption and also consumption
inequality. That last is important in a political sense currently because consumption inequality just hasn't widened out as much as income and wealth inequality have. And levels of consumption: well, that's really what income
or wealth is, the ability to purchase consumption. And if you're in a place where prices are lower, leading to greater consumption (whether of food, or square feet of housing, or leisure, or whatever), well, then you're richer, aren't you?
And thus is our conundrum solved. The red states aren't in fact poorer than the blue states. They're richer: that's why they vote more conservative and more right wing.
We could, of course, take yet another point from this essay:
For blue state urbanites who toil in low-paying retail, food preparation
and service jobs, for the journeyman tradespeople who once formed the heart
of the middle class, for teachers, civil servants, students and young families, the American dream of homeownership u or even an affordable
rental apartment u is increasingly out of reach. Adding insult to injury, rapid gentrification in these larger knowledge hubs brings the constant
threat of displacement of creative workers. For even the much better paid techies, engineers, financiers and managers who are displacing them, the metropolitan version of the American dream is a cramped condo or a small
house and a long commute. Many are opting to move to cheaper red states instead, further driving their growth.
That rather shows that the way that the blue states are run isn't conducive
to good living standards for the poorer half of the population, doesn't it? Or, as we might put it, blue, liberal, policies don't actually do what they say on the tin, aren't in fact pro-poor. All of which is something that
ties in nicely with something we noted from Joe Stiglitz yesterday. Restrictive zoning is very much more common in those blue states than it is
in the red. And housing is still a family's largest single expense. Meaning that by artificially pushing up the cost of housing those blue states are indeed making life worse for the poor. The adoption of build anything
anywhere (almost, we're not quite ready for a steel plant in Manhattan) policies would thus improve the lives and fortunes of the poor
substantially.
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But that is to become perilously close to snark about all of this. That
basic and first observation still stands though. That puzzle of why people
in places with lower incomes tend to vote right wing is solved. Because
those lower income places have even lower prices, making consumption
standards higher. There is therefore no conundrum. The richer people, by
the only standard that actually matters, that consumption, are voting right wing, the poorer are voting left.
What we now need to go on and explain is why those nominally left policies, those blue ones, are so to the disadvantage of the poor they're supposedly helping....
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From
Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to
rec.arts.tv,alt.computer.workshop,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun Aug 9 23:41:57 2026
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 19:05:08 -0000 (UTC), Ted Shaw <
tshaw2@gmail.com>
wrote:
Red state economies based on energy extraction,
... and heavily subsidized by Federal tax dollars.
agriculture and suburban
sprawl may have lower wages, higher poverty rates and lower levels of >education on average than those of blue states u but their residents also >benefit from much lower costs of living. For a middle-class person , the >American dream of a big house with a backyard and a couple of cars is much >more achievable in low-tax Arizona than in deep-blue Massachusetts. As Jed >Kolko, chief economist of Trulia, recently noted, housing costs almost
twice as much in deep-blue markets ($227 per square foot) than in red >markets ($119).
The fact is, if red states had to support themselves without federal
tax dollars, there wouldn't be any Republicans.
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From
Governor Swill@governor.swill@gmail.com to
rec.arts.tv,alt.computer.workshop,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Mon Aug 10 08:35:16 2026
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On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 00:24:42 -0400, Anonymous wrote:
The GDP of the Blue State FIRE economies is fake and gay.
LOL! I'm right! For rightists, any fact they don't like is fake
news.
Any belief that have is somehow viewed as fact.
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You may have noticed, while checking in on the G7, that Trump had
to ask Zelensky for forgiveness and Macron fed him a plate of crow
by using the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles as the setting for Trump
to sign his capitulation.
In another globally witnessed humiliation, he was roundly snubbed at
a group photo op.
Long ago, another agreement signed in Versailles failed horribly..
012020298647
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