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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 22:28:48 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
wrote:

I just saw this exchange on the exTwitters and thought it amusing:

@WomanDefiner: One thing I will say is that Americans in general like >Canadians far more than Canadians like Americans.

@proverbs_14_23: These sorts of posts are pretty shocking to me as a Canadian. >Americans don't seem to know that Canadians hate them more than any other >country on earth.

I'm not being hyperbolic. Almost every conversation in Canada revolves around >Trump. It's a hyper-fixation in the worst way possible.

They have chosen to use America as a scapegoat for all of their insane >domestic issues. They are the national equivalent of a resentful hag who >ensures every conversation revolves around how much she hates her thriving ex >husband and his hot new wife.

While that's possibly true I'd guess it has a LOT more to do with the
relative ability of Trump to impact the lives of average Canadians far
more than the ability of Mark Carney to impact the lives of average
Americans in ANY state (like Minnesota) more than Trump can and does
to Canada as a whole

As for "insane domestic issues" that's a term that goes both ways. A
LOT of people in a LOT of countries would consider the election of
Zohran Mamdani an "insane domestic issue" though I confess I find the
sheer gutlessness of Keir Starmer on the subject of Muslim extremists
quite "remarkable" and I don't think Andy Burnham is any better - it's
amazing the degree to which either of them would prostitute themselves
for the UK Muslim vote. And I absolutely do NOT think that Canada is
the only country that thinks that way.

The United States has come a long way since Clint Eastwood (who was in
fact quite a good administrator) was mayor of Carmel by the Sea which
I watched especially closely since 30 years ago I had close family
members who lived there (though their parents have now passed on and
my cousins have moved away).
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 23:11:34 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

They have chosen to use America as a scapegoat for all of their insane >>domestic issues. They are the national equivalent of a resentful hag who >>ensures every conversation revolves around how much she hates her thriving ex >>husband and his hot new wife.

You've gotten this wrong. It's about tariffs and trade, nothing else.

Only half wrong - what he's referring to is that both Canada and the
US have constitutional powers between the feds and the state /
provincial governments and the division of powers is quite differrent
between the two. In British Columbia we have a socialist government in
power and something like 85% of the liquor sales in BC are from the
government liquor stores. And that the premier of BC recently spoke of
banning US booze from these stores. A LOT of British Columbians spoke
against that - I say put the US booze in the provincial liquor store
and let people vote with their dollars. I suspect a lot of British
Columbians will boycott US booze which I know Trump won't like but
that would be the actions of individual citizens NOT the provincial
government. And if my is right then Canadians should say (as Trump has
to Canada) "offer what our people want and you'll have no trouble
selling it here"

And frankly US beer has NEVER sold well in Canada mostly (in my view)
because the usual alcohol content in Canadian beer is about 2% higher
than in most American beer. That's NOT chauvinism - that's just higher
alcohol content - 5 - 5.5% alcohol in most Canadian beer (and that's
an average which includes "light beer" vs 4.5-5.0% in US brands)

Though frankly Baileys Irish Cream and Kahlua are about the only
foreign brands I commonly buy. That's not chauvinism - just well
established brands I know I like.
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 16:12:47 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball@mac.invalid>
wrote:

As someone who spent a good chunk of my youth in Canada, I can vouch for
the fact that Canadians' hatred of Americans massively pre-dates Trump.
They have always hated American for a whole host of reasons (most of
which reflects poorly on Canada IMO - their one complaint that American >tourists are loud boors is the only one I will give them).

In fairness I don't think that's true though I may not be a typical
Canadian since I have more American than Canadian relatives at least
to the first cousin level which as I've states previously is more due
to the size of my father's family compared to my mother's. And I
wasn't joking about being conceived in the Bay area and born in
Vancouver then spending the first 4 years of my life in the Bay area.

Trump has just magnified their hatred.

Which Trump has gone very far out of his way to promote.

What mystifies me is that most Americans don't realize how much
Canadians hate them, and don't return the favor. Americans need to wake
up on this score.

Frankly I >don't< think that's a widespread Canadian view nor the
majority view but more like 'what the f*** is the president doing
NOW?!?" I really do think Americans will find Canadians more receptive
when Trump is gone as he's been deliberately picking on Canadian sore
points for most of his second term so far.

For myself the ONLY American I've ever hated was during the peak of
COVID when the border was closed except by permit. An American applied
for permission to take his pickup truck from Washington to Alaska
(there were 100 or so such permits given) and he was required to wear
a mask (as most of us were) when out of his vehicle. He also
negotiated a proposed route for his trip.

The reason why I hate him is that during the very worst of COVID when
paranoia was rife (and I'm pretty sure the US and Canada rules were
much the same at that point and that all of us are glad that time is
in our tail lights) this clown was caught for speeding in Calgary -
which is more than 300 miles off the route he had agreed to before
crossing the border. During the worst days of COVID none of the
restrictions he was compelled to agree to were considered at all "over
the top" - and in my view he put the towns he went to needlessly at
risk and during the pandemic that's a VERY big deal indeed. Look at a
map and you'll quickly see how far off the route he had negotiated was
from Seattle to Alaska. (Kinda like going from LA to Seattle via
Denver which is fine now but during the worst days of COVID not so
much)

It definitely wouldn't be a big deal (or ANY kind of deal) now but in
the dark days of the first half of 2020 that was a VERY big deal
indeed and I'm not the only Canadian who loathed the guy.

Our widespread clan stayed in touch via Facebook and other apps and we
were probably closer during the worst of the pandemic than before or
since. For instance we knew we weren't going to see my daughter in
England till COVID was beaten - but we used the net to stay in touch
probably more than we do in 2026.
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 21:10:59 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

3. Many of us have kin south of the border - Horny Goat being one of
many such examples - and many of us live in America for part of the
year, especially winter, which I'm sure you can appreciate given your >unhappiness about the cold. If we really hated you, I doubt we'd go down >there as much as we do ;-)

Well I've crossed Portage Avenue (the main street of Winnipeg) in -40
without a winter jacket and nothing heavier than a sweater. It wasn't
painful (just bloody cold) and after having done it one never felt
inspired to do it again!

Due to the season nature of their business (commercial fishing) my
parents and grandparents spent a LOT of winters in the US - mostly in
southern California or Arizona. It was a sad day when my retired
grandparents came home from Arizona for the last time due to the cost
of medical insurance escalating beyond their reach.

They definitely weren't anti-American though they had scorn for
certain "bozos" which EVERY country has their share of. There are lots
of Canadians whose views I am embarassed by - I know that's true of
Brits and I'd be astonished if that wasn't true of Americans as well.

(About the only politicians I felt that way about were Pierre and
Justin Trudeau and the present premier of BC who unlike his
predecessor from the same party has no idea of running a tight ship
financially - and is running up debt at a rate that will probably take
20+ years to pay off)

I also suspect that phenomena will occur in a couple of years come
election time <evil grin>

Look - if I were the stereotypical anti-American that some had thought
would I have spent 20+ years here and elsewhere on Usenet?
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