On 2026-05-04 6:47 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On May 4, 2026 at 12:17:28 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:My secret is out.... ;-)
I'm just doing my census and can't help but notice how it's increasingly >>> "woke". (Canada does censuses in years ending in 1 but do a sort of
mini-census in years ending in 6.)
For instance, it's asking me what sex I am and while it previously just
had options for male or female, now I have an option to fill in anything >>> I like in a blank.
Please tell me you put down "gender non-binary pansexual dragon otherkin"! >>
Actually, I was talking to one of my friends after completing the census
and he pointed out that the law only forces you to complete the census;
it does NOT compel you to tell the truth.
lying. For instance, if she's still around by then, I'll list the cat as
my roommate and give her my last name. Imagine heads turning if I then record her correct age, which would make her roughly 50 years younger
than me. I could make up a hitherto unknown sex for each of us but make
them sound like they might be capable of having sex with each other.
Then I could add a troupe of Martian slugs and give THEM some weird
genders and make them all at least 800 years old. Eventually, Statistics Canada would understand that they were being mocked but what could they
do about it?
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
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My secret is out.... ;-)
Actually, I was talking to one of my friends after completing the census and he pointed out that the law only forces you to complete the census;
it does NOT compel you to tell the truth.
That?s an interesting point. I gave up on filling out the census when I realized it was threatening me with legal action. If I didn?t tell them how many elevators my building had (hint: none) and I thought to myself, self,
I thought, this is just beyond stupid and tossed it out.
In article <1911243254.804655086.901171.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, anim8rfsk@cox.net says...
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
My secret is out.... ;-)
Actually, I was talking to one of my friends after completing the census >>> and he pointed out that the law only forces you to complete the census;
it does NOT compel you to tell the truth.
That?s an interesting point. I gave up on filling out the census when I
realized it was threatening me with legal action. If I didn?t tell them how >> many elevators my building had (hint: none) and I thought to myself, self, >> I thought, this is just beyond stupid and tossed it out.
I was a census resister in 2000. As I recall, the only
legal requirement is the census itself -- the number of
adults living in a residence. I filled out only that
portion.
A not-very-bright census taker came to try to fill in the
other questions. He stood there asking stuff like "How
many TVs are in your home?" and I replied with "Two
adults live here."
A supervisor tried again later. I told him that "two
adults live here," and he just chuckled and made a note.
Nobody ever tried to cite me with anything. Pestering was
their only weapon.
I was an Enumerator in the 2010 Census (US) and a Field Supervisor in
the 2020 Census. Yes, legally you are required to answer all the
questions BUT the Census Bureau itself tells its field people to just
get what you politely can from the respondent and don't try to force anything.
In neither Census I worked in were there questions like "how many TVs".
But the Census Bureau does do other projects that are not the once-every-10-years Constitutionally required Census. Some of the other work they do could include questions like that.
Verily, in article <1125pll$2ka9f$2@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
I was an Enumerator in the 2010 Census (US) and a Field Supervisor in
the 2020 Census. Yes, legally you are required to answer all the
questions BUT the Census Bureau itself tells its field people to just
get what you politely can from the respondent and don't try to force
anything.
In neither Census I worked in were there questions like "how many TVs".
But the Census Bureau does do other projects that are not the
once-every-10-years Constitutionally required Census. Some of the other >> work they do could include questions like that.
It was definitely the main census. I remember the TVs question as particularly stupid, but there were many other questions which had
nothing to do with allocating districts.
In article <1911243254.804655086.901171.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, anim8rfsk@cox.net says...
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
My secret is out.... ;-)
Actually, I was talking to one of my friends after completing the census >>> and he pointed out that the law only forces you to complete the census; >>> it does NOT compel you to tell the truth.
That?s an interesting point. I gave up on filling out the census when I
realized it was threatening me with legal action. If I didn?t tell them how >> many elevators my building had (hint: none) and I thought to myself, self, >> I thought, this is just beyond stupid and tossed it out.
I was a census resister in 2000. As I recall, the only
legal requirement is the census itself -- the number of
adults living in a residence. I filled out only that
portion.
A not-very-bright census taker came to try to fill in the
other questions. He stood there asking stuff like "How
many TVs are in your home?" and I replied with "Two
adults live here."
A supervisor tried again later. I told him that "two
adults live here," and he just chuckled and made a note.
Nobody ever tried to cite me with anything. Pestering was
their only weapon.
-Melissa
On Jul 2, 2026 at 8:52:15 AM PDT, "The True Melissa" <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <1125pll$2ka9f$2@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
I was an Enumerator in the 2010 Census (US) and a Field Supervisor in
the 2020 Census. Yes, legally you are required to answer all the
questions BUT the Census Bureau itself tells its field people to just
get what you politely can from the respondent and don't try to force
anything.
In neither Census I worked in were there questions like "how many TVs". >>> But the Census Bureau does do other projects that are not the
once-every-10-years Constitutionally required Census. Some of the other >>> work they do could include questions like that.
It was definitely the main census. I remember the TVs question as
particularly stupid, but there were many other questions which had
nothing to do with allocating districts.
It's mission creep. The FedGov seems to think that since the Constitution authorizes them to count people every 10 years, that means they can count anything they want and you have no privacy rights whatsoever with regard to anything they ask.
On 7/2/2026 12:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 2, 2026 at 8:52:15 AM PDT, "The True Melissa"
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <1125pll$2ka9f$2@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
I was an Enumerator in the 2010 Census (US) and a Field Supervisor in >>>> the 2020 Census. Yes, legally you are required to answer all the
questions BUT the Census Bureau itself tells its field people to just >>>> get what you politely can from the respondent and don't try to force >>>> anything.
In neither Census I worked in were there questions like "how many TVs". >>>> But the Census Bureau does do other projects that are not the
once-every-10-years Constitutionally required Census. Some of the other
work they do could include questions like that.
It was definitely the main census. I remember the TVs question as
particularly stupid, but there were many other questions which had
nothing to do with allocating districts.
It's mission creep. The FedGov seems to think that since the Constitution >> authorizes them to count people every 10 years, that means they can count >> anything they want and you have no privacy rights whatsoever with regard to >> anything they ask.
You seem to contend that any data-gathering about the populace is evil.
Indeed, any such data can be put to ill use, but afaics that'd include
even the basic head-count.
On Jul 2, 2026 at 11:28:33 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 7/2/2026 12:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Jul 2, 2026 at 8:52:15 AM PDT, "The True Melissa"
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <1125pll$2ka9f$2@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
I was an Enumerator in the 2010 Census (US) and a Field Supervisor in >>>>> the 2020 Census. Yes, legally you are required to answer all the >>>>> questions BUT the Census Bureau itself tells its field people to just >>>>> get what you politely can from the respondent and don't try to force >>>>> anything.
In neither Census I worked in were there questions like "how many TVs".
But the Census Bureau does do other projects that are not the
once-every-10-years Constitutionally required Census. Some of the other
work they do could include questions like that.
It was definitely the main census. I remember the TVs question as
particularly stupid, but there were many other questions which had
nothing to do with allocating districts.
It's mission creep. The FedGov seems to think that since the Constitution >>> authorizes them to count people every 10 years, that means they can count >>> anything they want and you have no privacy rights whatsoever with regard to
anything they ask.
You seem to contend that any data-gathering about the populace is evil.
Not evil, just none of the government's goddam business.
Indeed, any such data can be put to ill use, but afaics that'd include
even the basic head-count.
Verily, in article <1125pll$2ka9f$2@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:
I was an Enumerator in the 2010 Census (US) and a Field Supervisor in
the 2020 Census. Yes, legally you are required to answer all the
questions BUT the Census Bureau itself tells its field people to just
get what you politely can from the respondent and don't try to force
anything.
In neither Census I worked in were there questions like "how many TVs".
But the Census Bureau does do other projects that are not the
once-every-10-years Constitutionally required Census. Some of the other
work they do could include questions like that.
It was definitely the main census. I remember the TVs question as particularly stupid, but there were many other questions which had
nothing to do with allocating districts.
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