• Re: [OT] I Can't Breathe: the sequel

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Fri Jun 19 17:08:37 2026
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    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 18:08:06 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Jun 15, 2026 at 11:50:33 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote: >>> A large number of British commentators have called for Britain to exit
    the ECHR. Keir Starmer, of course, rejects this; remember, his
    background is as a human rights attorney as is the currently Attorney
    General, Lord Hermer.

    A 'human rights attorney'? Uh - if Starmer self described himself that
    way he was fibbing - before going into politics Starmer was a Crown
    Prosecutor and part of his territory was where the 'grooming gang'
    scandal took place. ("Grooming gangs" is a euphemism for mostly
    Pakistani immigrants who were abducting and raping underage lower
    class white girls - and has been going on for 30-40 years. It's a key
    reason Farage and others have advocated deportation for those
    convicted who hold non-UK citizenship and thus can be legally deported
    with little paperwork.

    "Crown Prosecutor" is the British (and Canadian) term for what would
    be called District Attorneys in the US who are not normally described
    as advocates for any particular kind of offender much less those
    accused of rape involving minors.

    I believe Nigel Farage and Rupert Lowe, party leaders of Reform and
    Restore Britain, have both insisted that the UK leave the ECHR; I'm not >>> sure if Kemi Badenoch, the Tory leader, has done so yet.

    I watch a lot of UK news shows on Youtube (I use as an excuse that my
    2nd daughter lives in Brighton which is close to one of the major
    landing points for illegal migrants - but I know she lives 2-3 miles
    from the waterfront so hope that means she doesn't encounter too many
    of them.) and have heard no mention that Badenoch has taken a position
    on ECHR.

    Well, Badenoch has whole-heartedly endorsed Starmer's ban on social media for >anyone under 18, which necessarily means everyone in the UK will have to prove >their age to use it, which is just a back door for the digital ID plan and >on-device scanning that Starmer was pushing.

    The Tories are no better than Labour. Only Restore will get things back on >track in the UK.

    "ECHR" is the European Court of Human Rights which Britain for
    whatever reason stayed in after Brexit. In this context Britain
    staying in ECHR is problematic since the whole point of Brexit was
    that Brits didn't want to be ruled from Brussels while the whole point
    of ECHR is to insure members DO follow the "European Standards"

    As a result 100+ illegal migrants have had their deportation orders
    quashed following appeals to ECHR.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jun 20 03:34:15 2026
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    On Jun 19, 2026 at 5:08:37 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 18:08:06 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    On Jun 15, 2026 at 11:50:33 PM PDT, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    I believe Nigel Farage and Rupert Lowe, party leaders of Reform and
    Restore Britain, have both insisted that the UK leave the ECHR; I'm not >>>> sure if Kemi Badenoch, the Tory leader, has done so yet.

    I watch a lot of UK news shows on Youtube (I use as an excuse that my
    2nd daughter lives in Brighton which is close to one of the major
    landing points for illegal migrants - but I know she lives 2-3 miles
    from the waterfront so hope that means she doesn't encounter too many
    of them.) and have heard no mention that Badenoch has taken a position
    on ECHR.

    Well, Badenoch has whole-heartedly endorsed Starmer's ban on social media for
    anyone under 18, which necessarily means everyone in the UK will have to
    prove
    their age to use it, which is just a back door for the digital ID plan and >> on-device scanning that Starmer was pushing.

    The Tories are no better than Labour. Only Restore will get things back on >> track in the UK.

    "ECHR" is the European Court of Human Rights which Britain for
    whatever reason stayed in after Brexit. In this context Britain
    staying in ECHR is problematic since the whole point of Brexit was
    that Brits didn't want to be ruled from Brussels while the whole point
    of ECHR is to insure members DO follow the "European Standards"

    As a result 100+ illegal migrants have had their deportation orders
    quashed following appeals to ECHR.

    Britain should just deport them anyway, then quote President Andrew Jackson's response to Justice Marshall's majority opinion in Worcester v. Georgia: "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

    What is the ECHR going to do if Britain ignores their rulings? Are they going to invade the UK?



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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to rec.arts.tv on Sat Jun 20 11:02:49 2026
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    The Horny Goat wrote:

    A 'human rights attorney'? > Uh - if Starmer self described himself that way he was fibbing

    <https://youtu.be/vjCPUqQzsgE?t=427>
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