• Re: [OT] Stabbing attack on Jews in London deemed terrorist act

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 10:11:06 2026
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    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:34:53 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    There has been a stabbing attack in the Golders Green area in London
    today. The Met (Metropolitan Police) have deemed it a terrorist attack.
    So far, there have been two victims, both of which have survived so far.

    This livestream covers the events:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZm-xdkZqhc [56 minutes]

    Not surprisingly as Golders Green is as Jewish as Brooklyn in NYC - so
    an attack there would be particularly surprising
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 10:19:24 2026
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    On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 09:42:16 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-04-30 6:28 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I wish I could say I'm surprised but that seems to be the pattern in
    most of the West now. There are still a few sensible countries that
    don't put up with that shit - like Poland - but far too few.

    I wouldn't use Poland as a good example. Whilst Warsaw itself is a
    modern western capital city, largely since the fall of the Soviet Union
    when WWII destruction was finally replaced with new buildings, it's not
    like they fixed the economy in rural Poland. There still weren't any
    jobs. Poland, with its relatively high birth rate compared to the rest
    of Europe, was still a net exporter of migrants.

    That's all well and good if you're talking about Poland from 1945 until
    the end of Soviet occupation as the Soviet Union was in its death
    throes. I'm talking about the last couple of decades. As I understand
    it, they are strongly and successfully resisting the mass migration from
    the developing countries that the elites in the other countries have >embraced. >

    I think I mentioned this previously but Poland has a program where
    children and grandchildren of people born in Poland can apply for
    Polish citizenship (the exception is where the applicant's parent or grandparent has served in a foreign military - which is significant as
    while my father in law and his brothers were all born in Poland - and
    emigrated in 1939 - both my wife's uncles served in the RCAF while my
    father in law worked on the farm for a few years before going to a
    steel mill)

    I have two daughters and a son and one of the daughters emigrated to
    the UK 10 years ago and she applied and received Polish citizenship -
    along with her Canadian citizenship by birth and UK naturalization.

    She says that she mostly uses her Polish passport when visiting
    mainland Europe as she can use the "EU citizen line" which is much
    faster than you or I would have to use. (My other daughter and son
    have never bothered as they live on the west coast of Canada - which
    of course is a LOT farther from Europe than SE England)
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 10:25:38 2026
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    On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 09:42:16 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    But
    too many of the newcomers and demanding big changes and both Labour and
    the Conservatives seem to have kowtowed to that in order to get their
    votes. Reform is poised to win big on May 7's local elections with
    Labour taking a huge hit and the already marginalized Conservatives
    being further damaged. If they don't fuck things up too badly, Reform is >likely to win a majority in the next national elections. Nigel Farage
    seems to still resist large scale deportations but he's facing pressure
    on his right and may yet go that way if he has to do it to win.

    Well yes and no - no question Reform has a 10 point lead in the polls
    (I watch a lot of UK news on Youtube) but assuming Labour doesn't
    bring about an early election before 2029 - which I doubt - Reform is
    high in the polls but only 8 seats in the UK parliament.

    On the other hand, Reform's candidate for mayor of London is a
    stunning Muslim lady whose husband is non-Muslim so it's hard to
    describe him as a bigot even though he's not considered
    Muslim-friendly the way Labour is.

    Meanwhile Starmer faces a leadership challenge and assuming he
    survives to the Fall he'll be in good shape and the pundits are saying
    the odds are 50-50.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 10:31:43 2026
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    On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 14:00:27 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I don't know what immigration levels were like in the Thatcher/Major
    years and you may well be right that they were negligible during that >recession. I'm saying that her (or Major's) government had said
    *something* - I'm not sure what - that had a prominent Labour leader
    declare that they were going to show the "racist" Tories a thing or two
    by bringing in masses of foreigners. I wish I could give you chapter and >verse on exactly what was said by who and under which precise
    circumstances but I don't know and I don't know how to find out exactly.
    If I had the exact quote, I could search for the rest but I've had to >paraphrase because I don't recall the exact details. But the gist of the >statement has been remembered by conservatives and gets restated
    regularly. The massive increase in immigration under Blair was
    apparently accomplished because of a desire to get revenge on Tories who >were deemed repugnant because they didn't cherish floods of foreigners
    from different cultures arriving.

    There's an interesting chart of UK immigration at https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/united-kingdom-shift-immigration-interrupted-brexit-pandemic?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=46884364&gbraid=0AAAAAD8CHmo_1wyoJTvH0ugs81Bj6LDDE&gclid=CjwKCAjw8arQBhB9EiwAfIKdQqDUG6Hklcxp9dq4ny-8fWRL6HH2NU789pKRLfsb2Ax-Vc9YVNY2yxoCrxkQAvD_BwE

    though there are 500 Muslims "immigrants" (many not legally in the UK)
    to every westerner like my daughter.

    Most UK Muslims are NOT in the "green and pleasant land" mindset (if
    that's an unusual phrase to you Google it - it's from a British
    patriotic song (even if the bit about Jesus visiting England is more
    than a bit sketchy)
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 10:36:12 2026
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    On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 16:57:25 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    I bet that when the new flood of migrants from Pakistan and Afghanistan >arrives in the shires, the native Brits will be looking back fondly on the >good ol' days when they only had to deal with a few Poles. E.g., I don't >remember the Poles blasting the UK's rape stats into the stratosphere and you >didn't have Poles chasing each other down the street with machetes.

    I was visiting the UK in the month before the 2016 Brexit vote and
    from what I've seen in the Youtube videos, most of the Europeans left
    the UK after Brexit just as the Muslim immigration (again - lots of
    illegals among the Muslim influx - pre-Brexit all that was needed for
    Europeans was an EU passport. MOST of the Muslim influx was triggered
    by Angela Merkel who by welcoming them also gave them full legal
    access to the entire EU)
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 10:38:12 2026
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    On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 17:36:04 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    All except the one motive that is blindingly obvious to anyone with an IQ of a >rutabaga. Notice no description of the suspect has been given, either. Ann >Coulter's Law in effect: "The longer it takes the media to identify and/or >describe an attacker, the less likely it is to be a white male."

    That is at least as true in the UK as in the US
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  • From Pluted Pup@plutedpup@outlook.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 16:31:29 2026
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    On 4/30/26 3:28 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    . . .

    I wish I could say I'm surprised but that seems to be the pattern in
    most of the West now. There are still a few sensible countries that
    don't put up with that shit - like Poland - but far too few.

    I wouldn't use Poland as a good example. Whilst Warsaw itself is a
    modern western capital city, largely since the fall of the Soviet Union
    when WWII destruction was finally replaced with new buildings, it's not
    like they fixed the economy in rural Poland. There still weren't any
    jobs. Poland, with its relatively high birth rate compared to the rest
    of Europe, was still a net exporter of migrants.

    During the Brexit vote, since the UK had long had a population from the
    rest of the former British empire especially from India (and Pakistan
    after partition), the anti-immigrant sentiment was largely anti-Polish
    as they moved to rural England in the same areas that already had high unemployment.

    I think this will end in civil war which I wouldn't guarantee our side
    winning. Either that, or our elites will just give up and open all the
    doors wide before we can stop them.

    Why isn't retaining liberal values an option? The whole point of

    To be a liberal is to tolerate opposition.


    liberalism is that illiberal sentiments are rejected as harmful to the liberty of individuals.

    Banning the ideology of the opposition is the
    diametric opposite of liberalism.

    I consider myself to be liberal as I'm opposed to
    exterminating the ideology of those I hate.



    But again, in order to maintain liberty, one must exercise it, not just
    leave to others willing to face arrest in the face of police failing to protect liberal values.


    No way around it, but the war on antisemitism is not
    liberal.







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