My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!
We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
We're in a Constitution-free zone.
https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!
We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure
sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
We're in a Constitution-free zone.
https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/
I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
back.
Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
the blatant injustice.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equity-property-tax-sales/
There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.
The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being vindictive.
https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
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The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being vindictive.
https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/
I pay thousands of dollars a year primarily to support the community
colleges that do things like teach classes in being pet mediums. I am not making that up. I assume they actually meant to say pet psychics. Unless people actually want to talk to their dead pets. Hi fluffy!
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!
We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure
sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
We're in a Constitution-free zone.
https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/
I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not
brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
back.
Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
the blatant injustice.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equity-property-tax-sales/
There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.
The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being
vindictive.
https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/
I pay thousands of dollars a year primarily to support the community
colleges that do things like teach classes in being pet mediums. I am not making that up. I assume they actually meant to say pet psychics. Unless people actually want to talk to their dead pets. Hi fluffy!
Verily, in article <1843597553.800375690.068122.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being
vindictive.
https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/
I pay thousands of dollars a year primarily to support the community
colleges that do things like teach classes in being pet mediums. I am not
making that up. I assume they actually meant to say pet psychics. Unless
people actually want to talk to their dead pets. Hi fluffy!
Last time I heard of this dumbness, they preferred "animal
communicator."
Ditto for university courses on 12th century lesbian folk
dancing or "the Art of Taylor Swift" and all the silliness that colleges
and universities pass off as education.
did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us:
Ditto for university courses on 12th century lesbian folk
dancing or "the Art of Taylor Swift" and all the silliness that colleges >>and universities pass off as education.
I disagree there. There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance, but folk >dance is a real subject worthy of study. I took a class on folk music,
and it was *not* an easy-A class for the football team. It was a real
class.
People often laugh at courses focusing on modern artists, but where do
we draw the line of studyability? If it's reasonable to study symbolism
in the work of Robert Frost, isn't it reasonable to study it in the work
of Paul Simon? Once we've allowed Paul Simon, it's harder to come up
with a rule to disallow Justin Beiber.
Popular artists do use symbolism, along motifs and foreshadowing and all
the other usual components of art. There's nothing wrong with studying >modern work, or popular work. Classics begin as modern popular work,
after all.
Verily, in article <10u30s9$30uci$2@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
Ditto for university courses on 12th century lesbian folk
dancing or "the Art of Taylor Swift" and all the silliness that colleges
and universities pass off as education.
I disagree there. There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance, but folk
dance is a real subject worthy of study. I took a class on folk music,
and it was *not* an easy-A class for the football team. It was a real
class.
People often laugh at courses focusing on modern artists, but where do
we draw the line of studyability? If it's reasonable to study symbolism
in the work of Robert Frost, isn't it reasonable to study it in the work
of Paul Simon? Once we've allowed Paul Simon, it's harder to come up
with a rule to disallow Justin Beiber.
Popular artists do use symbolism, along motifs and foreshadowing and all
the other usual components of art. There's nothing wrong with studying
modern work, or popular work. Classics begin as modern popular work,
after all.
There's nothing wrong with a liberal arts degree at all... if you have learned to write. That's a skill that's marketable. The graduate must understand that there are simply a negligible number of jobs literally
in the field just studied.
I completely admire Taylor Swift who somehow found an audience, the
largest audience in pop music ever, to exploit, endlessly fascinated
about how all the men in her life disappointed her. How is she not the Charles Munger/Warren Buffet of pop music? The class belongs in business school.
I suppose what I really meant to do was question the point of degree programs in pretty much anything that have no (or very little) prospect
of employment after graduation. If there really are jobs in folk dancing
for graduates of a folk dancing degree program, that program may not be
as daft as I thought.
None of that is to say that these things aren't worth studying in some fashion, although a university program seems questionable for many
things. If people are keen on learning about and/or practising the folk dances of lesbians and an instructor can be found to share that
knowledge, I see no reason that this shouldn't happen. I see no reason
why it should happen under the auspices of a university though. Why not
in a local community college? Or a private career college, the way
people learn to be Personal Support Workers or dental technicians?
I think one of the fundamental mistakes that has been made in the 20th century is advancing the notion that everybody should go to university
or college and come out with a degree as a bare minimum to have a decent life.
Verily, in article <10u4utl$f1j7$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
I suppose what I really meant to do was question the point of degree
programs in pretty much anything that have no (or very little) prospect
of employment after graduation. If there really are jobs in folk dancing
for graduates of a folk dancing degree program, that program may not be
as daft as I thought.
One class isn't a major. The person who takes a folk dancing class is
usually taking it for a breadth-of-education requirement, while majoring
in something more traditional. I'm sure there are some Grievance Studies majors in there as well, but whole programs are different from
individual classes.
None of that is to say that these things aren't worth studying in some
fashion, although a university program seems questionable for many
things. If people are keen on learning about and/or practising the folk
dances of lesbians and an instructor can be found to share that
knowledge, I see no reason that this shouldn't happen. I see no reason
why it should happen under the auspices of a university though. Why not
in a local community college? Or a private career college, the way
people learn to be Personal Support Workers or dental technicians?
Community colleges do offer classes in pop culture.
There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance because there's no lesbian society to produce such dances. For obvious reasons, it wouldn't last
the generations needed to produce traditions. I suppose there might be Lesbian folk dances from the Isle of Lesbos, so maybe that could work.
:-)
I think one of the fundamental mistakes that has been made in the 20th
century is advancing the notion that everybody should go to university
or college and come out with a degree as a bare minimum to have a decent
life.
I agree. Things got worse after "not college material" became a bad
thing to say. We saw that college graduates earned more and decided to
fix poverty by making everyone a college graduate. What could go wrong?
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!
We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v. >>Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >>sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable >>costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner. >>Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
We're in a Constitution-free zone.
https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the- >>last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-forec >>losure/
I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not >brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
back.
Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
the blatant injustice.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equ >ity-property-tax-sales/
There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.
The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being >vindictive.
https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-mi >chigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-th >e-supreme-court/
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!
We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v. >>Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >>sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable >>costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner. >>Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
We're in a Constitution-free zone.
https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the- >>last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-forec >>losure/
I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not >brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
back.
Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
the blatant injustice.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equ >ity-property-tax-sales/
There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.
The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being >vindictive.
https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-mi >chigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-th >e-supreme-court/
My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!
We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
We're in a Constitution-free zone.
https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/
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