• Re: Suck it, California

    From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed May 13 04:04:27 2026
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    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!

    We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
    Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
    costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
    Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

    We're in a Constitution-free zone.

    https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/

    I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not
    brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
    ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
    back.

    Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
    the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
    the blatant injustice.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equity-property-tax-sales/

    There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
    case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.

    The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being vindictive.

    https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv on Wed May 13 07:38:23 2026
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    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!

    We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
    Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure
    sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
    costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
    Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

    We're in a Constitution-free zone.

    https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/

    I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
    ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
    back.

    Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
    the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
    the blatant injustice.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equity-property-tax-sales/

    There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
    case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.

    The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being vindictive.

    https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/


    I pay thousands of dollars a year primarily to support the community
    colleges that do things like teach classes in being pet mediums. I am not making that up. I assume they actually meant to say pet psychics. Unless
    people actually want to talk to their dead pets. Hi fluffy!
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed May 13 11:51:57 2026
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    Verily, in article <1843597553.800375690.068122.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being vindictive.

    https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/


    I pay thousands of dollars a year primarily to support the community
    colleges that do things like teach classes in being pet mediums. I am not making that up. I assume they actually meant to say pet psychics. Unless people actually want to talk to their dead pets. Hi fluffy!


    Last time I heard of this dumbness, they preferred "animal
    communicator."
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed May 13 19:14:44 2026
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    On 2026-05-13 10:38 a.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!

    We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
    Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure
    sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
    costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
    Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

    We're in a Constitution-free zone.

    https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/

    I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not
    brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
    ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
    back.

    Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
    the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
    the blatant injustice.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equity-property-tax-sales/

    There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
    case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.

    The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being
    vindictive.

    https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/


    I pay thousands of dollars a year primarily to support the community
    colleges that do things like teach classes in being pet mediums. I am not making that up. I assume they actually meant to say pet psychics. Unless people actually want to talk to their dead pets. Hi fluffy!

    Our longest serving Prime Minister, W. L. M. King, regularly held
    seances and spoke to his dead mother through his dog Pat. The dog may
    have been dead too, I forget. Twenty-seven years in office including
    most of the Great Depression and all of WWII.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Wed May 13 19:18:33 2026
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    On 2026-05-13 11:51 a.m., The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <1843597553.800375690.068122.anim8rfsk- cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    [quoted text muted]
    The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being
    vindictive.

    https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-michigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-the-supreme-court/


    I pay thousands of dollars a year primarily to support the community
    colleges that do things like teach classes in being pet mediums. I am not
    making that up. I assume they actually meant to say pet psychics. Unless
    people actually want to talk to their dead pets. Hi fluffy!


    Last time I heard of this dumbness, they preferred "animal
    communicator."

    The day governments stop subsidizing such nonsense will be a big step
    forward for us all. If someone wants to learn such a "skill", let them
    pay for it out of their own pockets (or apprentice to an established
    expert). Ditto for university courses on 12th century lesbian folk
    dancing or "the Art of Taylor Swift" and all the silliness that colleges
    and universities pass off as education.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu May 14 09:01:01 2026
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    Verily, in article <10u30s9$30uci$2@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    Ditto for university courses on 12th century lesbian folk
    dancing or "the Art of Taylor Swift" and all the silliness that colleges
    and universities pass off as education.

    I disagree there. There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance, but folk
    dance is a real subject worthy of study. I took a class on folk music,
    and it was *not* an easy-A class for the football team. It was a real
    class.

    People often laugh at courses focusing on modern artists, but where do
    we draw the line of studyability? If it's reasonable to study symbolism
    in the work of Robert Frost, isn't it reasonable to study it in the work
    of Paul Simon? Once we've allowed Paul Simon, it's harder to come up
    with a rule to disallow Justin Beiber.

    Popular artists do use symbolism, along motifs and foreshadowing and all
    the other usual components of art. There's nothing wrong with studying
    modern work, or popular work. Classics begin as modern popular work,
    after all.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu May 14 16:21:36 2026
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us:

    Ditto for university courses on 12th century lesbian folk
    dancing or "the Art of Taylor Swift" and all the silliness that colleges >>and universities pass off as education.

    I disagree there. There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance, but folk >dance is a real subject worthy of study. I took a class on folk music,
    and it was *not* an easy-A class for the football team. It was a real
    class.

    People often laugh at courses focusing on modern artists, but where do
    we draw the line of studyability? If it's reasonable to study symbolism
    in the work of Robert Frost, isn't it reasonable to study it in the work
    of Paul Simon? Once we've allowed Paul Simon, it's harder to come up
    with a rule to disallow Justin Beiber.

    Popular artists do use symbolism, along motifs and foreshadowing and all
    the other usual components of art. There's nothing wrong with studying >modern work, or popular work. Classics begin as modern popular work,
    after all.

    There's nothing wrong with a liberal arts degree at all... if you have
    learned to write. That's a skill that's marketable. The graduate must understand that there are simply a negligible number of jobs literally
    in the field just studied.

    I completely admire Taylor Swift who somehow found an audience, the
    largest audience in pop music ever, to exploit, endlessly fascinated
    about how all the men in her life disappointed her. How is she not the
    Charles Munger/Warren Buffet of pop music? The class belongs in business school.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu May 14 12:57:24 2026
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    On 2026-05-14 9:01 a.m., The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10u30s9$30uci$2@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    Ditto for university courses on 12th century lesbian folk
    dancing or "the Art of Taylor Swift" and all the silliness that colleges
    and universities pass off as education.

    I disagree there. There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance, but folk
    dance is a real subject worthy of study. I took a class on folk music,
    and it was *not* an easy-A class for the football team. It was a real
    class.

    People often laugh at courses focusing on modern artists, but where do
    we draw the line of studyability? If it's reasonable to study symbolism
    in the work of Robert Frost, isn't it reasonable to study it in the work
    of Paul Simon? Once we've allowed Paul Simon, it's harder to come up
    with a rule to disallow Justin Beiber.

    Popular artists do use symbolism, along motifs and foreshadowing and all
    the other usual components of art. There's nothing wrong with studying
    modern work, or popular work. Classics begin as modern popular work,
    after all.


    I painted with a very broad brush in my remarks and didn't really think through what I was trying to say.

    Several of your points are quite valid. For instance, Paul Simon *is* a
    poet but of an obviously newer generation than, say, Wordsworth or Shakespeare. He may be as greatly revered in time. (Justin Bieber?
    That's a lot harder to buy but your mileage may vary.)

    I suppose what I really meant to do was question the point of degree
    programs in pretty much anything that have no (or very little) prospect
    of employment after graduation. If there really are jobs in folk dancing
    for graduates of a folk dancing degree program, that program may not be
    as daft as I thought.

    None of that is to say that these things aren't worth studying in some fashion, although a university program seems questionable for many
    things. If people are keen on learning about and/or practising the folk
    dances of lesbians and an instructor can be found to share that
    knowledge, I see no reason that this shouldn't happen. I see no reason
    why it should happen under the auspices of a university though. Why not
    in a local community college? Or a private career college, the way
    people learn to be Personal Support Workers or dental technicians?

    I think one of the fundamental mistakes that has been made in the 20th
    century is advancing the notion that everybody should go to university
    or college and come out with a degree as a bare minimum to have a decent
    life. A whole lot of people bought into this and I think it has had some unfortunate consequences, particularly the growth of these silly courses
    and degree programs just so there'd be yet another way for the school to
    get money out of students who just assumed there'd be a good job at
    graduation no matter what nonsense they studied. (I'm speaking of
    students who have no particular aptitude for medicine, law, engineering,
    etc. but who simply feel they HAVE to go to university/college because.)
    This has resulted in a lot of student debt being accrued by people who
    will never get a job out of whatever they've studied and will live in
    poverty for decades in most cases. How is that a good thing for anyone?
    Only the universities bottom lines are helped.

    If I was advising a young person today, I'd tell them to learn something
    which was in demand (and likely to stay that way for a couple of
    decades) that they thought they could tolerate doing full-time -
    ideally, they'd love it but I think tolerating it is quite satisfactory
    - and learn it as quickly as possible and start working as soon as
    possible after that. That would put them in a position to pay back loans quickly and have a relatively secure income. After they've got the loans
    paid back (or at least paid down), use their spare time to study
    anything that excites their passions, INCLUDING things that have no
    serious prospect of generating income because they are now in the
    proverbial cat-bird seat and don't have to worry about starving or
    ruinous debt and can just enjoy whatever they're studying. They would
    have a steady income, minimal or no debt, and one or more hobbies to
    keep their minds engaged, even if their day job was boring or
    unpleasant. I think that's a much brighter future than getting a degree
    in something useless and then working as a barrista for 20 years to pay
    back the loans you took out to get your useless degree. (That same
    person could have studied to be a plumber or welder and been making
    serious bank right out of school and then gone on to indulge their
    passion for Taylor Swift or folk dancing or whatever floats their boat
    and lived comfortably throughout those years.)
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu May 14 14:31:00 2026
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    Verily, in article <10u4sqg$ger4$1@dont-email.me>, did ahk@chinet.com
    deliver unto us this message:
    There's nothing wrong with a liberal arts degree at all... if you have learned to write. That's a skill that's marketable. The graduate must understand that there are simply a negligible number of jobs literally
    in the field just studied.

    The person isn't majoring in Taylor Swift, though. That's just one
    class.


    I completely admire Taylor Swift who somehow found an audience, the
    largest audience in pop music ever, to exploit, endlessly fascinated
    about how all the men in her life disappointed her. How is she not the Charles Munger/Warren Buffet of pop music? The class belongs in business school.

    ObTV: I watched the movie version of her Eras tour (the shorter one),
    and it was an astonishingly good show. Her music's a little bland for
    my taste, but the staging amazed, and her crowd control is excellent.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu May 14 14:42:22 2026
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    Verily, in article <10u4utl$f1j7$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    I suppose what I really meant to do was question the point of degree programs in pretty much anything that have no (or very little) prospect
    of employment after graduation. If there really are jobs in folk dancing
    for graduates of a folk dancing degree program, that program may not be
    as daft as I thought.

    One class isn't a major. The person who takes a folk dancing class is
    usually taking it for a breadth-of-education requirement, while majoring
    in something more traditional. I'm sure there are some Grievance Studies majors in there as well, but whole programs are different from
    individual classes.


    None of that is to say that these things aren't worth studying in some fashion, although a university program seems questionable for many
    things. If people are keen on learning about and/or practising the folk dances of lesbians and an instructor can be found to share that
    knowledge, I see no reason that this shouldn't happen. I see no reason
    why it should happen under the auspices of a university though. Why not
    in a local community college? Or a private career college, the way
    people learn to be Personal Support Workers or dental technicians?

    Community colleges do offer classes in pop culture.

    There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance because there's no lesbian
    society to produce such dances. For obvious reasons, it wouldn't last
    the generations needed to produce traditions. I suppose there might be
    Lesbian folk dances from the Isle of Lesbos, so maybe that could work.
    :-)


    I think one of the fundamental mistakes that has been made in the 20th century is advancing the notion that everybody should go to university
    or college and come out with a degree as a bare minimum to have a decent life.

    I agree. Things got worse after "not college material" became a bad
    thing to say. We saw that college graduates earned more and decided to
    fix poverty by making everyone a college graduate. What could go wrong?
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Thu May 14 17:46:44 2026
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    On 2026-05-14 2:42 p.m., The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10u4utl$f1j7$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    I suppose what I really meant to do was question the point of degree
    programs in pretty much anything that have no (or very little) prospect
    of employment after graduation. If there really are jobs in folk dancing
    for graduates of a folk dancing degree program, that program may not be
    as daft as I thought.

    One class isn't a major. The person who takes a folk dancing class is
    usually taking it for a breadth-of-education requirement, while majoring
    in something more traditional. I'm sure there are some Grievance Studies majors in there as well, but whole programs are different from
    individual classes.

    Agreed: one course isn't a major. I don't know if there are majors
    consisting entirely of things like folk dancing but I won't be shocked
    if there are. *Those* majors seem inappropriate for a university or
    college to offer, at least to me, but they haven't made me Emperor of
    the Universe yet so this is just one man's opinion.>
    None of that is to say that these things aren't worth studying in some
    fashion, although a university program seems questionable for many
    things. If people are keen on learning about and/or practising the folk
    dances of lesbians and an instructor can be found to share that
    knowledge, I see no reason that this shouldn't happen. I see no reason
    why it should happen under the auspices of a university though. Why not
    in a local community college? Or a private career college, the way
    people learn to be Personal Support Workers or dental technicians?

    Community colleges do offer classes in pop culture.

    There's no such thing as lesbian folk dance because there's no lesbian society to produce such dances. For obvious reasons, it wouldn't last
    the generations needed to produce traditions. I suppose there might be Lesbian folk dances from the Isle of Lesbos, so maybe that could work.
    :-)

    I'm sure I heard somewhere about a college course in lesbian folk
    dancing but maybe that was just someone exaggerating how bizarre the
    courses were getting. In any case, you're completing omitting the fact
    that many women "become" lesbians after trying heterosexual life. To use
    a TV example, Meredith Baxter (from Bridget Loves Bernie and Family
    Ties) was apparently married to three different men before deciding she
    was really a lesbian at heart. I don't know if she had any kids but it
    shows that lesbians *can* procreate, even if it isn't with another
    lesbian ;-)


    I think one of the fundamental mistakes that has been made in the 20th
    century is advancing the notion that everybody should go to university
    or college and come out with a degree as a bare minimum to have a decent
    life.

    I agree. Things got worse after "not college material" became a bad
    thing to say. We saw that college graduates earned more and decided to
    fix poverty by making everyone a college graduate. What could go wrong?


    It's really unfortunate that there was - and probably still is - a
    stigma holding people in some degree of disrepute if they didn't go to college/university and "settled" for community college courses like
    welding, plumbing, construction, etc. Those are important, well-paying
    jobs and the people doing them are craftsman.

    I like to watch the tradespeople working. For instance, I had to replace
    the water heater a couple of years back and the guy who installed it was amazing to watch. He wrestled the new one down the stairs despite it
    being a rather challenging effort, dragged the old one out, and hooked
    up the new one without a single wasted motion. I said "I'll bet you've
    done dozens and dozens of these." He replied "More like hundreds...." It showed in how effortlessly he did everything. He was in and out in about
    90 minutes and it would have been an hour if he hadn't had a bit of
    stubborn leak in the pipe feeding the water heater.

    Those people are worthy of our respect, sometimes a lot more than some
    of the people with college degrees.
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  • From Bruno@hi@ku.not to rec.arts.tv on Sat May 16 16:48:59 2026
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    Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!

    We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v. >>Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >>sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable >>costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner. >>Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

    We're in a Constitution-free zone.

    https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the- >>last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-forec >>losure/

    I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not >brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
    ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
    back.

    Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
    the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
    the blatant injustice.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equ >ity-property-tax-sales/

    There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
    case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.

    The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being >vindictive.

    https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-mi >chigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-th >e-supreme-court/


    California will never be part of my USA. Fucking leftist commies.

    I don't care if

    CaliforniaAs economy is larger than the United KingdomAs. New York sits at
    the center of global finance. Massachusetts, Washington, Oregon, and other
    blue states collectively represent over 60% of AmericaAs GDP. In short,
    the engine that powers the United States economy is overwhelmingly powered
    by blue states.

    And yet, the states most dependent on federal welfare, subsidies, and tax redistribution are overwhelmingly Republican. These states drain resources
    from the federal government while exerting disproportionate political influence over how it operates.

    Top Three Takeaways from the Article:

    Republican-led states are net takers u relying heavily on federal dollars
    to run their states that come mostly from blue state taxpayers.

    Political representation is skewed u giving resource-draining red states disproportionate power over national policy.

    Blue states could push back u through interstate coordination, selective compliance, or even secession threats, forcing a reckoning over who truly sustains America.
    Red States as Welfare States

    Look at the numbers: states like Mississippi, West Virginia, Alabama, and Kentucky consistently receive far more in federal spending than they contribute in taxes. Mississippi receives about $2.13 in federal money for every $1 it sends to Washington. Meanwhile, states like California and New
    York send billions more to the federal government than they get back.

    This means that the so-called ofiscally conservativeo states are, in
    reality, welfare states propped up by the wealth generated in blue states. Without blue state subsidies, many red state governments would collapse
    under the weight of their poverty rates, infrastructure needs, and
    healthcare costs.
    Political Power Without Economic Weight

    Despite their dependency, red states hold outsized political power. The
    Senate grants WyomingAs 580,000 residents the same representation as CaliforniaAs 39 million. The Electoral College system compounds this imbalance, handing disproportionate influence to rural states that
    contribute relatively little to national economic output.

    In practice, this means red states that drain federal resources wield veto power over national policy. The states most reliant on federal welfare
    dollars are the ones most aggressively blocking climate legislation, healthcare reform, and education funding that the rest of the country desperately needs.


    What Blue States Could Do

    The imbalance raises a provocative question: what if blue states stopped playing along?

    Blue states already experiment with interstate compacts, such as climate agreements formed when Trump pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Accord. But
    the options go much further:

    Selective compliance with federal laws, much like Northern states
    resisted fugitive slave laws in the 1850s.

    Irish Democracyustyle passive resistance, where millions quietly stop cooperating with federal overreach.

    Economic independence, with state-level initiatives in healthcare, immigration policy, and even currency.

    If pushed far enough, some argue that blue states could even explore the possibility of secession, not as political theater but as a credible negotiating tactic. After all, Quebec nearly left Canada twice, and each
    time it forced major concessions.


    The Harsh Truth

    At the heart of the issue lies an uncomfortable reality: the red state
    vision of America u one of social conservatism, weak social safety nets,
    and corporate dominance u is subsidized by the very blue states they
    attack as osocialist.o

    The U.S. has two incompatible futures. One is a multi-ethnic democracy
    with robust public institutions. The other is a regressive, exclusionary
    system kept afloat only by federal redistribution. The former is paying
    for the latter u and sooner or later, blue states may decide the cost is
    too high.


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  • From Michael@mknowles@dailywire.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Sun May 17 15:33:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Adam H. Kerman wrote:


    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!

    We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v. >>Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >>sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable >>costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner. >>Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

    We're in a Constitution-free zone.

    https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the- >>last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-forec >>losure/

    I posted about this in 2025. Our idiot state legislature still has not >brought the property tax code into compliance with the Supreme Court
    ruling to stop tax sales in which the homeowner doesn't receive equity
    back.

    Here's another trial court judge ruling against the county. Violating
    the Supreme Court ruling is costing a fortune in losses, not to mention
    the blatant injustice.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/05/12/judge-cook-county-homeowners-equ >ity-property-tax-sales/

    There hasn't been a ruling yet but the Supreme Court heard a similar
    case this term, Pung v. Isabella County, Michigan.

    The facts are mind blowing. You tell me that the assessor wasn't being >vindictive.

    https://www.michigannewssource.com/2025/10/taxed-seized-sold-and-sued-a-mi >chigan-property-owners-2200-debt-that-gobbled-up-a-194000-home-heads-to-th >e-supreme-court/



    I don't see a problem with life in a red state where real men can hit a convenience store where a white man can buy a bottle of liquor and a
    handgun with ammo and have everybody respect his freedom.

    It's how Vance and Hegseth were raised, but not Trump. His personal
    Vietnam days in 1970's NYC are the source of great stories for historians.


    If California is so great, why does everybody who voted Trump is 2024 and
    the stolen election of 2020 always say otherwise?
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 18 19:13:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    My state is at the bottom! My state is at the bottom!

    We are the last state in the oountry still in violation of Tyler v.
    Hennepin County, which was decided in 2023 9-0, that in tax foreclosure >sales, the county could not take more than taxes owed plus reasonable
    costs, and that any remaining equity was still owned by the homeowner.
    Taking it was a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

    We're in a Constitution-free zone.

    https://www.injusticewatch.org/civil-courts/housing/2025/illinois-is-the-last-state-to-unlawfully-strip-wealth-from-homeowners-caught-in-tax-foreclosure/

    According to Lehto, Ohio's constitution has both a Takings clause (that
    he said requires probable cause but didn't explain) and an excessive
    fines clause. Nevertheless, trial court judges and appeals courts have
    ruled against forclosed-upon homeowners for years whose equity in their
    homes were wiped out with the tax sale forclosure.

    Here's an appeal, consolidating the cases of three former homeowners.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XojZGne1uD8
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