On 2025-09-09 4:19 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I don't think the Indians had a morally superior right to land overI think the only *legal* basis for indigenous land claims was the
anyone who came later. It wasn't their land till they got here and began
using it, whether settled permanently or not. I certainly don't recognize >> sacred rights to land they aren't currently using, treaty or not. But that >> doesn't mean they needed to be removed to make it possible for Europeans
to live here.
treaties signed between Washington and the tribes. (In Canada, it was initially the British Crown and then the Canadian government after Confederation.) Morally, of course, you could argue that the indigenous
got shafted by those treaties and the indigenous people certainly want
the rest of us to believe it.
On Sep 9, 2025 at 2:36:00 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2025-09-09 4:19 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I don't think the Indians had a morally superior right to land overI think the only *legal* basis for indigenous land claims was the
anyone who came later. It wasn't their land till they got here and began >>> using it, whether settled permanently or not. I certainly don't recognize >>> sacred rights to land they aren't currently using, treaty or not. But that
doesn't mean they needed to be removed to make it possible for Europeans >>> to live here.
treaties signed between Washington and the tribes. (In Canada, it was
initially the British Crown and then the Canadian government after
Confederation.) Morally, of course, you could argue that the indigenous
got shafted by those treaties and the indigenous people certainly want
the rest of us to believe it.
A pretty good bit on the absurdity of Canadidian land acknowledgments:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1914454338598236160/pu/vid/avc1/720x1086/3FtHIeMAS6hDWg5S.mp4?tag=12
On 2026-05-11 2:41 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 9, 2025 at 2:36:00 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:That felt like it was staged but it certainly expresses how ludicrous
On 2025-09-09 4:19 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I don't think the Indians had a morally superior right to land over >>>> anyone who came later. It wasn't their land till they got here and beganI think the only *legal* basis for indigenous land claims was the
using it, whether settled permanently or not. I certainly don't recognize
sacred rights to land they aren't currently using, treaty or not. But that
doesn't mean they needed to be removed to make it possible for Europeans
to live here.
treaties signed between Washington and the tribes. (In Canada, it was
initially the British Crown and then the Canadian government after
Confederation.) Morally, of course, you could argue that the indigenous >>> got shafted by those treaties and the indigenous people certainly want
the rest of us to believe it.
A pretty good bit on the absurdity of Canadidian land acknowledgments:
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1914454338598236160/pu/vid/avc1/720x1086/3FtHIeMAS6hDWg5S.mp4?tag=12
the whole land acknowledgement nonsense is. I think the performers must
be from this area because I recognize some of the names of the tribes
(even if I can't say them).
On May 11, 2026 at 3:48:35 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
On 2026-05-11 2:41 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
On Sep 9, 2025 at 2:36:00 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>That felt like it was staged but it certainly expresses how ludicrous
wrote:
On 2025-09-09 4:19 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
I don't think the Indians had a morally superior right to land over >>>>> anyone who came later. It wasn't their land till they got here and beganI think the only *legal* basis for indigenous land claims was the
using it, whether settled permanently or not. I certainly don't recognize
sacred rights to land they aren't currently using, treaty or not. But that
doesn't mean they needed to be removed to make it possible for Europeans
to live here.
treaties signed between Washington and the tribes. (In Canada, it was >>>> initially the British Crown and then the Canadian government after
Confederation.) Morally, of course, you could argue that the indigenous >>>> got shafted by those treaties and the indigenous people certainly want >>>> the rest of us to believe it.
A pretty good bit on the absurdity of Canadidian land acknowledgments: >>>
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1914454338598236160/pu/vid/avc1/720x1086/3FtHIeMAS6hDWg5S.mp4?tag=12
the whole land acknowledgement nonsense is. I think the performers must
be from this area because I recognize some of the names of the tribes
(even if I can't say them).
Of course it was staged. It was a comedy skit. But it's funny because it's absolutely true.
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