• [OT] Reform Party pledges to park migrants in Green areas

    From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 10 08:12:31 2026
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    A prominent member of the Reform Party, which did incredibly well in
    British elections this week, has promised that the deportation camps for migrants will be put in areas that voted Green and NOT in areas that
    have a Reform MP or a local council controlled by Reform. Green voters,
    who have long insisted that "diversity is our strength" are furious at
    the prospect of having to see the consequences of their open borders
    policies in their own areas. Leo Kearse shares the details:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyqBe3HRxyE [10 minutes]

    Personally, I'm doubtful that a party that has only 8 (or so) seats in Parliament has any say over where people will be parked while awaiting deportation and I'm a little skeptical that the national government
    would let local councils veto the placement of these camps. Still, it
    would certainly let the Greens finally see the consequences of their own stupid policies if it could be done.
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    Rhino

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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 10 18:15:05 2026
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    On May 10, 2026 at 5:12:31 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    A prominent member of the Reform Party, which did incredibly well in
    British elections this week, has promised that the deportation camps for migrants will be put in areas that voted Green and NOT in areas that
    have a Reform MP or a local council controlled by Reform. Green voters,
    who have long insisted that "diversity is our strength" are furious at
    the prospect of having to see the consequences of their open borders policies in their own areas. Leo Kearse shares the details:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyqBe3HRxyE [10 minutes]

    Personally, I'm doubtful that a party that has only 8 (or so) seats in Parliament has any say over where people will be parked while awaiting deportation and I'm a little skeptical that the national government
    would let local councils veto the placement of these camps. Still, it
    would certainly let the Greens finally see the consequences of their own stupid policies if it could be done.

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 10 15:16:40 2026
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    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 5:12:31 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    A prominent member of the Reform Party, which did incredibly well in
    British elections this week, has promised that the deportation camps for
    migrants will be put in areas that voted Green and NOT in areas that
    have a Reform MP or a local council controlled by Reform. Green voters,
    who have long insisted that "diversity is our strength" are furious at
    the prospect of having to see the consequences of their open borders
    policies in their own areas. Leo Kearse shares the details:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyqBe3HRxyE [10 minutes]

    Personally, I'm doubtful that a party that has only 8 (or so) seats in
    Parliament has any say over where people will be parked while awaiting
    deportation and I'm a little skeptical that the national government
    would let local councils veto the placement of these camps. Still, it
    would certainly let the Greens finally see the consequences of their own
    stupid policies if it could be done.

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods are beautiful and
    pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street covered with tents, trash,
    poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out they don't live in the filth and
    degradation that their policies impose on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.


    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the
    other day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What
    do you know about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls?
    Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 10 21:46:38 2026
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    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya
    Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods
    are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street >>covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out >>they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose
    on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an >>airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other
    day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill >political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know
    about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? >Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also
    the level of government that provides public health services. You really
    want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is
    disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider
    the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away;
    the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building
    trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to
    intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city
    in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept
    entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent
    service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether
    anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 10 22:42:52 2026
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    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really
    exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya
    Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods
    are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street
    covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out >>> they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose
    on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and
    negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an
    airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other
    day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill >> political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know
    about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls?
    Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also
    the level of government that provides public health services. You really
    want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider
    the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away;
    the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building
    trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city
    in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent
    service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in
    that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like providing services that people expect to get from local government - or made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if
    Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.
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    Rhino
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 02:56:42 2026
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    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really
    exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya
    Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods
    are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street
    covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out >>>> they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose >>>> on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and
    negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an >>>> airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood. >>
    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other >>> day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill >>> political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know
    about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to >>> get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? >>> Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most
    important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also
    the level of government that provides public health services. You really
    want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is
    disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider
    the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away;
    the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when
    providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and
    effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works
    director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building
    trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to
    intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city
    in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept
    entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent
    service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether
    anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in
    that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like >providing services that people expect to get from local government - or >made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if
    Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city
    council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza,
    or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains
    are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc.

    It appears that Pratt is not running as a conservative but as someone personally impacted by truly incompetent city services with borrific but predictable results. He's making it very personal and possibly
    suggesting he'll be sympathetic to all the other taxpayers relying upon
    city services to function, which is everybody. It's the right way to
    run a campaign.

    If he starts talking about his position on abortion or that religion
    should play a larger role in civic life, then he should be toast.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 10 23:22:33 2026
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    On 2026-05-10 10:56 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>>>> exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya
    Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods >>>>> are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street >>>>> covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out >>>>> they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose >>>>> on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>>>> negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an >>>>> airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood. >>>
    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other >>>> day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill >>>> political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know
    about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to >>>> get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? >>>> Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most
    important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also
    the level of government that provides public health services. You really >>> want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is
    disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider
    the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away;
    the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when
    providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and
    effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works
    director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building
    trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to
    intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city
    in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept
    entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent
    service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether
    anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in
    that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like
    providing services that people expect to get from local government - or
    made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if
    Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza,
    or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains
    are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc.

    It appears that Pratt is not running as a conservative but as someone personally impacted by truly incompetent city services with borrific but predictable results. He's making it very personal and possibly
    suggesting he'll be sympathetic to all the other taxpayers relying upon
    city services to function, which is everybody. It's the right way to
    run a campaign.

    If he starts talking about his position on abortion or that religion
    should play a larger role in civic life, then he should be toast.

    I think we're on the same page deep down. Maybe I can get you to admit
    it. ;-)

    If a mayoral candidate in Chicago announced that his top priority was
    going to be the "genocide" in Gaza would you consider that to make him a better candidate or would it disqualify him in your eyes? I think it
    would be the latter, even if you agreed with his views on Gaza,
    precisely because he was prioritizing foreign affairs over the job of
    running the city.

    Karen Bass prioritized her umpteenth trip to Africa knowing that the
    Santa Ana winds were due and were a frequent source of trouble; foreign affairs interested her a lot more than doing the job of the mayor.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 03:44:01 2026
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    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 10:56 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>>>>> exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya >>>>>> Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods >>>>>> are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street >>>>>> covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out >>>>>> they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose >>>>>> on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>>>>> negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an >>>>>> airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other >>>>> day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill
    political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know
    about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to >>>>> get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? >>>>> Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most >>>> important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also >>>> the level of government that provides public health services. You really >>>> want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is >>>> disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider >>>> the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away; >>>> the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when >>>> providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and >>>> effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works >>>> director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building
    trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to >>>> intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city >>>> in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept >>>> entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent
    service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether
    anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in
    that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like
    providing services that people expect to get from local government - or
    made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if
    Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city
    council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza,
    or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some
    goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains
    are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being
    operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc.

    It appears that Pratt is not running as a conservative but as someone
    personally impacted by truly incompetent city services with borrific but
    predictable results. He's making it very personal and possibly
    suggesting he'll be sympathetic to all the other taxpayers relying upon
    city services to function, which is everybody. It's the right way to
    run a campaign.

    If he starts talking about his position on abortion or that religion
    should play a larger role in civic life, then he should be toast.

    I think we're on the same page deep down. Maybe I can get you to admit
    it. ;-)

    Conservatives don't favor public transportation. In the 19th century, conservatives wouldn't have seen municipal sewers to deal with outbreaks
    of typhoid and cholera as a public good, given the need to issue bonds.

    If a mayoral candidate in Chicago announced that his top priority was
    going to be the "genocide" in Gaza would you consider that to make him a >better candidate or would it disqualify him in your eyes? I think it
    would be the latter, even if you agreed with his views on Gaza,
    precisely because he was prioritizing foreign affairs over the job of >running the city.

    C'mon. I was using a Chicago example. That crap absolutely has come up.

    Karen Bass prioritized her umpteenth trip to Africa knowing that the
    Santa Ana winds were due and were a frequent source of trouble; foreign >affairs interested her a lot more than doing the job of the mayor.

    She fiddled while Los Angeles burned.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 18:15:32 2026
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    On May 10, 2026 at 12:16:40 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 5:12:31 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> >> wrote:

    A prominent member of the Reform Party, which did incredibly well in
    British elections this week, has promised that the deportation camps for >>> migrants will be put in areas that voted Green and NOT in areas that
    have a Reform MP or a local council controlled by Reform. Green voters, >>> who have long insisted that "diversity is our strength" are furious at
    the prospect of having to see the consequences of their open borders
    policies in their own areas. Leo Kearse shares the details:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyqBe3HRxyE [10 minutes]

    Personally, I'm doubtful that a party that has only 8 (or so) seats in
    Parliament has any say over where people will be parked while awaiting
    deportation and I'm a little skeptical that the national government
    would let local councils veto the placement of these camps. Still, it
    would certainly let the Greens finally see the consequences of their own >>> stupid policies if it could be done.

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really
    exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya Raman's >> multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods are beautiful >> and
    pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street covered with tents,
    trash,
    poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out they don't live in the filth >> and
    degradation that their policies impose on the rest of us. Then he says, "And
    thanks to the imcompetence and negligence of Karen Bass, this is where
    Iive",
    and cuts to a shot of an airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot
    where
    his home once stood.


    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the
    other day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What
    do you know about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    Bass and Raman are painting him as MAGA to scare their base who are too stupid to know any better, but he isn't even a Republican. He's been a Democrat most of his life but now says he's an independent. He's just not fundamentally batshit insane, so in the world of L.A. politics that makes him appear hard Right in comparison to all the other lunatics running the asylum.

    As to whether he has a chance, he does. A slim one, but it's there. I would
    bet a lot of money on it, though. The communist tag-team of Karen Bass and Nithya Raman, spent the entire mayoral debate pretending like they were
    running for the first time and promising 'change'. Change from what, girls? Yourselves? You're the ones who have been in charge for the last four years. Isn't promising change a tacit admission that you've been a failure? Of course L.A. voters are so deeply stupid they won't be able connect those logic dots and they will vote for one of these two collectivist shrews.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 18:16:37 2026
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    On May 10, 2026 at 7:56:42 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>>>> exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya
    Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods >>>>> are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street >>>>> covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out >>>>> they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose >>>>> on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>>>> negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an >>>>> airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other >>>> day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill
    political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know
    about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to >>>> get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? >>>> Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most
    important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also >>> the level of government that provides public health services. You really >>> want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is >>> disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider
    the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away;
    the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when
    providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and
    effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works >>> director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building
    trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to >>> intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city >>> in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept
    entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent
    service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether
    anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in
    that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like
    providing services that people expect to get from local government - or
    made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if
    Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza,
    or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains
    are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc.

    This.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 18:17:41 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 10, 2026 at 8:44:01 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 10:56 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>>>>>> exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya >>>>>>> Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods >>>>>>> are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street >>>>>>> covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out
    they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose
    on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>>>>>> negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an
    airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other
    day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill
    political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know >>>>>> about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls?
    Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most >>>>> important level of government of all, despite what voters think who >>>>> refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also >>>>> the level of government that provides public health services. You really >>>>> want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is >>>>> disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider >>>>> the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away; >>>>> the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when >>>>> providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and >>>>> effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works >>>>> director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building >>>>> trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to >>>>> intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city >>>>> in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept >>>>> entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent >>>>> service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether >>>>> anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in >>>> that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like >>>> providing services that people expect to get from local government - or >>>> made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about >>>> when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if >>>> Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city
    council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza, >>> or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some >>> goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains >>> are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being >>> operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc. >>>
    It appears that Pratt is not running as a conservative but as someone
    personally impacted by truly incompetent city services with borrific but >>> predictable results. He's making it very personal and possibly
    suggesting he'll be sympathetic to all the other taxpayers relying upon >>> city services to function, which is everybody. It's the right way to
    run a campaign.

    If he starts talking about his position on abortion or that religion
    should play a larger role in civic life, then he should be toast.

    I think we're on the same page deep down. Maybe I can get you to admit
    it. ;-)

    Conservatives don't favor public transportation. In the 19th century, conservatives wouldn't have seen municipal sewers to deal with outbreaks
    of typhoid and cholera as a public good, given the need to issue bonds.

    If a mayoral candidate in Chicago announced that his top priority was
    going to be the "genocide" in Gaza would you consider that to make him a
    better candidate or would it disqualify him in your eyes? I think it
    would be the latter, even if you agreed with his views on Gaza,
    precisely because he was prioritizing foreign affairs over the job of
    running the city.

    C'mon. I was using a Chicago example. That crap absolutely has come up.

    Karen Bass prioritized her umpteenth trip to Africa knowing that the
    Santa Ana winds were due and were a frequent source of trouble; foreign
    affairs interested her a lot more than doing the job of the mayor.

    She fiddled while Los Angeles burned.

    At least Nero was providing some good music. All Bass was doing while L.A. burned was knocking back cocktails.


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  • From moviePig@nobody@nowhere.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 15:27:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 5/11/2026 2:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 7:56:42 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>>>>> exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya >>>>>> Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods >>>>>> are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street >>>>>> covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out
    they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose
    on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>>>>> negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an
    airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other
    day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill
    political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know >>>>> about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls?
    Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most >>>> important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also >>>> the level of government that provides public health services. You really >>>> want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is >>>> disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider >>>> the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away; >>>> the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when >>>> providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and >>>> effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works >>>> director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building >>>> trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to >>>> intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city >>>> in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept >>>> entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent >>>> service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether >>>> anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in
    that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like
    providing services that people expect to get from local government - or
    made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if
    Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city
    council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza,
    or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some
    goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains
    are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being
    operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc.

    This.

    Sure. Except for position on abortion.


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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 15:46:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-05-10 11:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 10:56 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>>>>>> exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya >>>>>>> Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods >>>>>>> are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street >>>>>>> covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out
    they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose >>>>>>> on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>>>>>> negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an >>>>>>> airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other
    day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill
    political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know >>>>>> about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to >>>>>> get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? >>>>>> Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most >>>>> important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also >>>>> the level of government that provides public health services. You really >>>>> want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is >>>>> disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider >>>>> the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away; >>>>> the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when >>>>> providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and >>>>> effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works >>>>> director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building >>>>> trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to >>>>> intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city >>>>> in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept >>>>> entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent >>>>> service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether >>>>> anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in >>>> that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like
    providing services that people expect to get from local government - or >>>> made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if >>>> Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city
    council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza,
    or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some
    goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains
    are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being >>> operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc.

    It appears that Pratt is not running as a conservative but as someone
    personally impacted by truly incompetent city services with borrific but >>> predictable results. He's making it very personal and possibly
    suggesting he'll be sympathetic to all the other taxpayers relying upon
    city services to function, which is everybody. It's the right way to
    run a campaign.

    If he starts talking about his position on abortion or that religion
    should play a larger role in civic life, then he should be toast.

    I think we're on the same page deep down. Maybe I can get you to admit
    it. ;-)

    Conservatives don't favor public transportation.

    Agreed, that is generally true.
    In the 19th century,
    conservatives wouldn't have seen municipal sewers to deal with outbreaks
    of typhoid and cholera as a public good, given the need to issue bonds.


    Please, tell me you're not resisting voting for conservatives *today*
    from what they supported in the 19th century! Surely ALL parties (except
    the Communists) have moved on considerably in two centuries. I don't
    believe the Democrats favoured socialized medicine prior to the 20th
    century either but they've obviously "evolved" since then.

    If a mayoral candidate in Chicago announced that his top priority was
    going to be the "genocide" in Gaza would you consider that to make him a
    better candidate or would it disqualify him in your eyes? I think it
    would be the latter, even if you agreed with his views on Gaza,
    precisely because he was prioritizing foreign affairs over the job of
    running the city.

    C'mon. I was using a Chicago example. That crap absolutely has come up.


    And does it disqualify that candidate in your eyes because you think
    they will prioritize foreign affairs at the expense of local issues? Or
    do you just dismiss it as virtue-signalling and assume the candidate
    will still do the job of mayor properly?

    Karen Bass prioritized her umpteenth trip to Africa knowing that the
    Santa Ana winds were due and were a frequent source of trouble; foreign
    affairs interested her a lot more than doing the job of the mayor.

    She fiddled while Los Angeles burned.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 15:52:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-05-11 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 12:16:40 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 5:12:31 AM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    A prominent member of the Reform Party, which did incredibly well in >>>> British elections this week, has promised that the deportation camps for >>>> migrants will be put in areas that voted Green and NOT in areas that >>>> have a Reform MP or a local council controlled by Reform. Green voters, >>>> who have long insisted that "diversity is our strength" are furious at >>>> the prospect of having to see the consequences of their open borders >>>> policies in their own areas. Leo Kearse shares the details:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyqBe3HRxyE [10 minutes]

    Personally, I'm doubtful that a party that has only 8 (or so) seats in >>>> Parliament has any say over where people will be parked while awaiting >>>> deportation and I'm a little skeptical that the national government
    would let local councils veto the placement of these camps. Still, it >>>> would certainly let the Greens finally see the consequences of their own >>>> stupid policies if it could be done.

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really
    exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya Raman's
    multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods are beautiful
    and
    pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street covered with tents, >>> trash,
    poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out they don't live in the filth
    and
    degradation that their policies impose on the rest of us. Then he says, "And
    thanks to the imcompetence and negligence of Karen Bass, this is where >>> Iive",
    and cuts to a shot of an airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot >>> where
    his home once stood.


    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the
    other day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the
    run-of-the-mill political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What
    do you know about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls?
    Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    Bass and Raman are painting him as MAGA to scare their base who are too stupid
    to know any better, but he isn't even a Republican. He's been a Democrat most of his life but now says he's an independent. He's just not fundamentally batshit insane, so in the world of L.A. politics that makes him appear hard Right in comparison to all the other lunatics running the asylum.

    As to whether he has a chance, he does. A slim one, but it's there. I would bet a lot of money on it, though. The communist tag-team of Karen Bass and Nithya Raman, spent the entire mayoral debate pretending like they were running for the first time and promising 'change'. Change from what, girls? Yourselves? You're the ones who have been in charge for the last four years. Isn't promising change a tacit admission that you've been a failure? Of course
    L.A. voters are so deeply stupid they won't be able connect those logic dots and they will vote for one of these two collectivist shrews.


    I keep hoping that California has a Great Awakening of the type that
    swept the UK last week. Maybe Pratt can be a part of that....
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 20:20:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 11:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    . . .

    In the 19th century, conservatives wouldn't have seen municipal sewers
    to deal with outbreaks of typhoid and cholera as a public good, given
    the need to issue bonds.

    Please, tell me you're not resisting voting for conservatives *today*
    from what they supported in the 19th century!

    This is at the heart of our disagreement. For the levels of government
    at which the taxpayers should demand excellent delivery of services,
    particurly municipal, you keep arguing that there is a place for
    conservative politics. There is not. There is room for practical
    solutions only. When conservatives get onto school boards and library
    boards, they tend to purge collections of "inappropriate" books. This is
    a separate issue from choosing curriculum hated by parents, which is
    mandatory, on the basis of national politics in which everybody gets
    it hideously wrong.

    Surely ALL parties (except
    the Communists) have moved on considerably in two centuries. I don't
    believe the Democrats favoured socialized medicine prior to the 20th
    century either but they've obviously "evolved" since then.

    Socialized medicine began with FDR when Blue Cross/Blue Shield was set
    up, intended as universal health insurance. That's not how it worked
    out. Then Medicare/Medicaid got set up by LBJ. I agree that this was
    never the Party's issue, just the president's.

    . . .
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 20:30:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I keep hoping that California has a Great Awakening of the type that
    swept the UK last week. Maybe Pratt can be a part of that....

    You just want to let my state win by default?
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 18:41:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-05-11 4:20 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 11:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    . . .

    In the 19th century, conservatives wouldn't have seen municipal sewers
    to deal with outbreaks of typhoid and cholera as a public good, given
    the need to issue bonds.

    Please, tell me you're not resisting voting for conservatives *today*
    from what they supported in the 19th century!

    This is at the heart of our disagreement. For the levels of government
    at which the taxpayers should demand excellent delivery of services, particurly municipal, you keep arguing that there is a place for
    conservative politics. There is not. There is room for practical
    solutions only. When conservatives get onto school boards and library
    boards, they tend to purge collections of "inappropriate" books. This is
    a separate issue from choosing curriculum hated by parents, which is mandatory, on the basis of national politics in which everybody gets
    it hideously wrong.

    Are you genuinely arguing for no limitations at all the sort of books
    put in school libraries, the more "progressive" the better, and even for parents having no say in school curriculum?

    Surely ALL parties (except
    the Communists) have moved on considerably in two centuries. I don't
    believe the Democrats favoured socialized medicine prior to the 20th
    century either but they've obviously "evolved" since then.

    Socialized medicine began with FDR when Blue Cross/Blue Shield was set
    up, intended as universal health insurance. That's not how it worked
    out. Then Medicare/Medicaid got set up by LBJ. I agree that this was
    never the Party's issue, just the president's.

    . . .

    FDR clearly had a socialist bent during his presidency and moved the
    country to the left. This seemed to be the mood of the times: he didn't
    seem to get a huge amount of resistance although there was inevitably
    some. After all, the Republicans didn't let him run unopposed. I don't
    know enough about his era to know how much his party or base thought he
    was going too far or reigned him in.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 18:46:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On 2026-05-11 4:30 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I keep hoping that California has a Great Awakening of the type that
    swept the UK last week. Maybe Pratt can be a part of that....

    You just want to let my state win by default?

    Win what? The race to the bottom?

    I want *every* city, state, province, territory and country that is sick
    of "progressive" politics to get a grasp on their various governments
    and start the move back to reality/sanity where governments focus on
    what they're supposed to do and stop all of the virtue signalling with
    all of the ludicrous expenditures it entails. They need to focus on
    equal treatment of people, not equity. Reverse discrimination needs to
    end forever. "Woke" is ludicrous so it needs to be abandoned completely.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 22:49:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 11, 2026 at 12:52:06 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-05-11 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 12:16:40 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 5:12:31 AM PDT, "Rhino"
    <no_offline_contact@example.com>
    wrote:

    A prominent member of the Reform Party, which did incredibly well in >>>>> British elections this week, has promised that the deportation camps for
    migrants will be put in areas that voted Green and NOT in areas that >>>>> have a Reform MP or a local council controlled by Reform. Green voters,
    who have long insisted that "diversity is our strength" are furious at >>>>> the prospect of having to see the consequences of their open borders >>>>> policies in their own areas. Leo Kearse shares the details:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyqBe3HRxyE [10 minutes]

    Personally, I'm doubtful that a party that has only 8 (or so) seats in >>>>> Parliament has any say over where people will be parked while awaiting >>>>> deportation and I'm a little skeptical that the national government >>>>> would let local councils veto the placement of these camps. Still, it >>>>> would certainly let the Greens finally see the consequences of their own
    stupid policies if it could be done.

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really >>>> exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya Raman's
    multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods are beautiful
    and
    pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street covered with tents, >>>> trash,
    poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out they don't live in the filth
    and
    degradation that their policies impose on the rest of us. Then he says, >>>> "And
    thanks to the imcompetence and negligence of Karen Bass, this is where >>>> Iive",
    and cuts to a shot of an airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot >>>> where
    his home once stood.


    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the
    other day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the
    run-of-the-mill political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What >>> do you know about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to >>> get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls? >>> Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    Bass and Raman are painting him as MAGA to scare their base who are too
    stupid
    to know any better, but he isn't even a Republican. He's been a Democrat
    most
    of his life but now says he's an independent. He's just not fundamentally >> batshit insane, so in the world of L.A. politics that makes him appear hard >> Right in comparison to all the other lunatics running the asylum.

    As to whether he has a chance, he does. A slim one, but it's there. I would >> bet a lot of money on it, though. The communist tag-team of Karen Bass and >> Nithya Raman, spent the entire mayoral debate pretending like they were
    running for the first time and promising 'change'. Change from what, girls? >> Yourselves? You're the ones who have been in charge for the last four years.
    Isn't promising change a tacit admission that you've been a failure? Of
    course
    L.A. voters are so deeply stupid they won't be able connect those logic dots
    and they will vote for one of these two collectivist shrews.


    I keep hoping that California has a Great Awakening of the type that
    swept the UK last week. Maybe Pratt can be a part of that....

    This was meant to be an attack ad by the unions against Pratt. They're so far gone, they don't realize, this is actually a campaign ad *for* Pratt:


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053217804699267072/vid/avc1/1262x720/Eseyu1o-cmjCL6SK.mp4


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 22:51:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 11, 2026 at 1:30:35 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I keep hoping that California has a Great Awakening of the type that
    swept the UK last week. Maybe Pratt can be a part of that....

    You just want to let my state win by default?


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053828243422384128/vid/avc1/3840x2160/WsUq201hyVHybA-r.mp4

    AI was made for campaign ads!


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 22:56:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    2026-05-11 4:20 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 11:44 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    . . .

    In the 19th century, conservatives wouldn't have seen municipal sewers >>>>to deal with outbreaks of typhoid and cholera as a public good, given >>>>the need to issue bonds.

    Please, tell me you're not resisting voting for conservatives *today* >>>from what they supported in the 19th century!

    This is at the heart of our disagreement. For the levels of government
    at which the taxpayers should demand excellent delivery of services, >>particurly municipal, you keep arguing that there is a place for >>conservative politics. There is not. There is room for practical
    solutions only. When conservatives get onto school boards and library >>boards, they tend to purge collections of "inappropriate" books. This is
    a separate issue from choosing curriculum hated by parents, which is >>mandatory, on the basis of national politics in which everybody gets
    it hideously wrong.

    Are you genuinely arguing for no limitations at all the sort of books
    put in school libraries, the more "progressive" the better, and even for >parents having no say in school curriculum?

    I have no expertise in children's literature. Neither does a school
    board member. Let the school librarian choose material without
    interference. If she's doing a lousy job, then fire her, but never
    second guess her. Quite frankly, at the public library, if a child
    wishes to borrow a book in the adult stacks, there should be no
    restriction.

    Judy Blume books have been censored for decades 'cuz it's unsafe for
    girls growing up to have any ideas about sexuality and hormones and
    crazy thoughts and feelings under irrational overload. Mark Twain still
    gets banned. There is no argument for censorship over liberty, none
    whatsoever.

    Again, this is a separate issue than curriculum, about which parents
    might offer an objection as it's mandatory.

    . . .

    FDR clearly had a socialist bent during his presidency and moved the
    country to the left. This seemed to be the mood of the times: he didn't
    seem to get a huge amount of resistance although there was inevitably
    some. After all, the Republicans didn't let him run unopposed. I don't
    know enough about his era to know how much his party or base thought he
    was going too far or reigned him in.

    FDR implemented numerous policies first proposed by the Socialist Party
    of America. Social Security has "socialism" right in its name.

    Voters never forgave Hoover and the Republican Party for the Great
    Depression.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:00:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 10, 2026 at 7:42:52 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything?
    Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most
    important level of government of all, despite what voters think who
    refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely
    state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also
    the level of government that provides public health services. You really
    want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is
    disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider
    the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away;
    the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when
    providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and
    effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works
    director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building
    trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to
    intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city
    in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept
    entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent
    service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether
    anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.

    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in
    that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like providing services that people expect to get from local government - or made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about
    when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if
    Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2051420816164970496/vid/avc1/1920x1080/Nib5T9TR7E6p73cU.mp4


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:00:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053828243422384128/vid/avc1/3840x2160/WsUq201hyVHybA-r.mp4

    AI was made for campaign ads!

    There's no government regulation of light sabres?
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:04:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 11, 2026 at 4:00:52 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053828243422384128/vid/avc1/3840x2160/WsUq201hyVHybA-r.mp4

    AI was made for campaign ads!

    There's no government regulation of light sabres?

    If they actually existed, I'm sure Democrats would try to ban them.

    (Newsom as Palpatine was perfect. That's what I was calling him during the pandemic. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed the similarities.)


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:05:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2051420816164970496/vid/avc1/1920x1080/Nib5T9TR7E6p73cU.mp4

    Oh! That's mean.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:10:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    This was meant to be an attack ad by the unions against Pratt. They're so far >gone, they don't realize, this is actually a campaign ad *for* Pratt:

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053217804699267072/vid/avc1/1262x720/Eseyu1o-cmjCL6SK.mp4

    Is the housing for the homeless really that luxurious?
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:17:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 11, 2026 at 4:10:45 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    This was meant to be an attack ad by the unions against Pratt. They're so far
    gone, they don't realize, this is actually a campaign ad *for* Pratt:


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053217804699267072/vid/avc1/1262x720/Eseyu1o-cmjCL6SK.mp4

    Is the housing for the homeless really that luxurious?

    They're literally building them apartments-- and I'm not exaggerating-- that cost taxpayers $750,000 per unit.

    That's twice the median cost of housing in L.A. County. You could just hand them the cash and they'd be set for life. If that isn't prima facie evidence
    of massive fraud, I don't know what is.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:38:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 11, 2026 at 4:05:53 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2051420816164970496/vid/avc1/1920x1080/Nib5T9TR7E6p73cU.mp4

    Oh! That's mean.

    After having already confirmed her participation, Bass just withdrew from the next mayoral debate. Pratt flayed her alive during the first one and I guess she and her people decided it was less damaging to look like a scared coward and run away than endure another hour's worth of Pratt laying bare her lies
    and incompetence in front of the whole city.


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Mon May 11 23:49:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 11, 2026 at 4:00:52 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053828243422384128/vid/avc1/3840x2160/WsUq201hyVHybA-r.mp4

    AI was made for campaign ads!

    There's no government regulation of light sabres?

    Here's a Batman one with a Bass as the Joker, which again is perfect, the way she always has that goofy grin on her face regardless of the situation.


    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2051646298168942592/vid/avc1/3840x2160/mDSeu0vLRDIlbePW.mp4?tag=27


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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue May 12 00:06:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    On May 11, 2026 at 12:27:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 5/11/2026 2:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 7:56:42 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really
    exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya >>>>>>> Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods >>>>>>> are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street
    covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and points out
    they don't live in the filth and degradation that their policies impose
    on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and >>>>>>> negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a shot of an
    airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube feed the other
    day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the run-of-the-mill
    political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know >>>>>> about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in the polls?
    Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything? >>>>> Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most >>>>> important level of government of all, despite what voters think who >>>>> refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely >>>>> state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also
    the level of government that provides public health services. You really
    want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is
    disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider >>>>> the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away; >>>>> the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when >>>>> providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and >>>>> effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works
    director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building >>>>> trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to
    intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city
    in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept >>>>> entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent >>>>> service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether >>>>> anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive
    politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in >>>> that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like >>>> providing services that people expect to get from local government - or >>>> made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about >>>> when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if >>>> Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city
    council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza, >>> or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some >>> goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains >>> are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being >>> operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc.

    This.

    Sure. Except for position on abortion.

    The L.A. health department is now issuing warnings about a reemergence of the bubonic plague in the city. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.

    Something that hasnrCOt been a problem since the Dark Ages. But somehow Karen Bass and the "democrat socialists" (read: communists) on the city council have managed to bring back the Black Death with their embrace of filth, drug addiction, and crime infestation.

    A truly amazing accomplishment and one which I think gives California an unquestioned win over Illinois in the race to the bottom.


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue May 12 01:25:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    May 11, 2026 at 4:10:45 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    This was meant to be an attack ad by the unions against Pratt. They're so far
    gone, they don't realize, this is actually a campaign ad *for* Pratt:

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2053217804699267072/vid/avc1/1262x720/Eseyu1o-cmjCL6SK.mp4

    Is the housing for the homeless really that luxurious?

    They're literally building them apartments-- and I'm not exaggerating-- that >cost taxpayers $750,000 per unit.

    You are closer to the bottom than we are. There are so many requirements
    and specifications to meet, developers lose money building
    city-subsidized housing, which cost $584,000 per unit. No luxury, just
    ordinary apartments.

    https://citythatworks.substack.com/p/construction-costs-for-affordable

    That's twice the median cost of housing in L.A. County. You could just hand >them the cash and they'd be set for life. If that isn't prima facie evidence >of massive fraud, I don't know what is.

    It's more likely to be inane regulations than fraud.
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@ahk@chinet.com to rec.arts.tv on Tue May 12 01:30:10 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.tv

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    On May 11, 2026 at 12:27:14 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 5/11/2026 2:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On May 10, 2026 at 7:56:42 PM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
    wrote:

    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 5:46 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-10 2:15 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:

    . . .

    Here in L.A., Spencer Pratt came out with a campaign ad that's really
    exploding. He stands in front of Karen Bass's and communist Nithya >>>>>>>> Raman's multi-million dollar homes and shows how their neighborhoods
    are beautiful and pristine-- then segues to a residential L.A. street
    covered with tents, trash, poop, drug addicts, and crime--and >points out
    they don't live in the filth and degradation that their
    policies impose
    on the rest of us. Then he says, "And thanks to the imcompetence and
    negligence of Karen Bass, this is where Iive", and cuts to a
    shot of an
    airstream trailer parked on the burned out lot where his home
    once stood.

    A couple of Spencer Pratt's videos showed up in my YouTube
    feed the other
    day and I was struck by how bold they were compared to the >run-of-the-mill
    political ads. I now nothing about the man though. What do you know >>>>>>> about him?

    The ads suggest he may be conservative but that could just be
    a trick to
    get views. Is he the real deal? Is he getting any traction in
    the polls?
    Does he have a real shot at being the mayor?

    What the hell does being a conservative have to do with anything? >>>>>> Municipal government is largely about provided services. It's the most
    important level of government of all, despite what voters think who >>>>>> refuse to pay any attention at local elections.

    There's no way around it. Municipal government is almost entirely >>>>>> state socialism. Most public utilities are publicly owned. This is also
    the level of government that provides public health services.
    You really
    want public immunization campaigns and mass innoculations when there is
    disease outbreak because the consequences are too terrible to consider
    the immediate impact of who can afford to pay for treatment.

    Political parties do not matter. The sewers must take the sewage away;
    the trash must be picked up.

    Municipalities actually solve social problems by getting it right when
    providing services. When they fail to provide services efficiently and
    effectively, they create otherwise avoidable social ills.

    You really want a mayor who understands full well that his public works
    director must be a top manager when it comes to dealing with building >>>>>> trades whether they are union or not.

    I'd call allowing the effects of national and international politics to
    intrude upon municipal government, like your recent example from a city
    in Ontario, a secondary problem. This irrelevant shit needs to be kept
    entirely out of consderation at city council meetings.

    If the focus remains on the main task at hand -- providing excellent >>>>>> service to the taxpayers -- then there is no consideration of whether >>>>>> anyone's politics are adequately conservative.

    The same applies to any consideration of liberal or progressive >>>>>> politics. Keep it all away from municipal government.


    I submit that politics *does* matter, even in municipal government, in >>>>> that it can indicate whether the candidate prioritizes reality - like >>>>> providing services that people expect to get from local government - or >>>>> made-up problems like gender identity. That's what I was asking about >>>>> when I used the word "conservative". I was trying to get a grasp of if >>>>> Pratt is reality-based or some kind of idealogue.

    I simply should not know the politics of a mayor or member of the city >>>> council under ideal circumstances. I don't need to know religion,
    position on abortion, whether the Jews are committing genocide in Gaza, >>>> or whether 27 more sex/gender combinations have been recognized by some >>>> goofball academic since last week. All I want to know is if water mains >>>> are being maintained, flooding addressed, public transportation is being >>>> operated and roadways kept free from potholes, sidewalks, bridges, etc. >>>
    This.

    Sure. Except for position on abortion.

    The L.A. health department is now issuing warnings about a reemergence of the >bubonic plague in the city. Must be a day that ends in 'y'.

    Something that hasnrCOt been a problem since the Dark Ages. But somehow Karen >Bass and the "democrat socialists" (read: communists) on the city council have >managed to bring back the Black Death with their embrace of filth, drug >addiction, and crime infestation.

    A truly amazing accomplishment and one which I think gives California an >unquestioned win over Illinois in the race to the bottom.

    We had the world's highest number of measles cases two years ago when it
    failed to occur to Mayor Brandon that housing migrants in warehouses
    would spread disease and maybe we should have spent a nickle per person catching them up on innoculations.

    I guess it never occured to him to go after th ePlague.
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