• Re: [OT] China interfering in Canada - again!

    From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Fri May 8 11:15:49 2026
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    On Mon, 4 May 2026 10:50:48 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I am deeply skeptical that our Prime Minister will take a stand against >China in this matter. He recently went to China hat-in-hand to try to >improve our trading relationship with China. Our economy is in the
    dumper after Trump's tariffs were imposed and Carney's been unable to
    move the needle on that. He seems to prefer defending the Iranian regime >over its people and cozying up to China.

    A big chunk of that has been the tanking of the Canadian dollar (which
    is usually quoted on international markets in equivalent to US dollar
    amounts).

    There's been a fair bit of kvetching from Whatcom County, WA (which is
    the county adjoining Canada north of Seattle) about this as their
    economy has always been closely linked to Canada's but since Trump II
    getting less so. Some of the Whatcom County are saying some pretty
    extreme things about Canada but the REAL reason is that due to Trump's
    policies the Canuck buck has dropped 5-7% against the greenback and
    thus ANYTHING priced in US dollars is up that much in price. Whereas
    Canadian vendors have raised prices on certain US goods, it's the
    higher price (in Canuck bucks) that's the "culprit" rather than anti-Americanism.

    My read on the situation is that none of the likely Trump successors
    (in either party) are likely to continue the current tariffs that have
    been so damaging so it's reasonable to expect whatever Canadian angst
    there is to disappear come January 2029. I'm in a Facebook group
    consisting of my cousins and 2nd cousins (about 2/3 of which are
    American) and I certainly do not see the animus that some reporters
    have claimed.

    (Right now the major question in that group tends to be over a family
    history my aunt - born in the US but has lived in Canada the last
    45-50 years - who has compiled a family history which is extremely
    good but doesn't cover anything beyond 2000-2005 - and the discussion
    is (1) over making an electronic version of her book and (2) figuring
    out how to update it given marriages, births, deaths since her 2005
    edition - for instance both my parents are listed as alive in 2005 but
    both have since passed, and marriages and children born since then)
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Fri May 8 11:24:41 2026
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    On Mon, 4 May 2026 15:43:14 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    But that would require a change of attitude on their part, something
    that is apparently unthinkable there. They find it easier to get agents
    to threaten to blow up the theatre or mow down the performers with
    gunfire. That costs almost nothing and doesn't interfere with their >activities in oppressing their people, either at home or abroad.

    If that is actually their intent then given 98% of the fentanyl
    precursor chemicals are made in China and exported to the Mexican
    gangs who then either export the precursors or the finished product
    Northwards to the US. One thing that infuriates me about Trump is his
    talk about Canada shipping drugs to the US because (a) it's the gangs,
    not the law-abiding Canadians or the Canadian government and (b)
    almost all the drug precursors are shipped from Mexico VIA THE UNITED
    STATES to Canada which are then manufactured into finished product in
    remote areas by the gangs then shipped either to major Canadian cities
    or the US.

    My point of course is that with respect to the drug situation, almost
    100% of Canadian illicit drugs (both manufactured and those killing
    Canadian addicts) have passed through the United States to get to the
    Canadian drug labs in the first place so that if the DEA were as good
    as Trump seems to think they are, Canada not only wouldn't be
    exporting to the US, but Canada itself would have a drug problem at
    most 5% of what it does.

    In other words Trump - you have the power to end both Canadian exports
    to the US AND to almost entirely end the Canadian drug crisis but that
    simply didn't happen during your first term or under Biden.
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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.tv on Fri May 8 11:29:40 2026
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    On Mon, 4 May 2026 20:29:58 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    If the Chinese government is so worried about looking bad due to its >>oppression, the easiest way to remedy that is to stop oppressing people.

    As I said in my previous post, the other way China could look far less
    bad is to get serious about cracking down on their drug lords who are
    THE major factor in the North American illicit drug trade. They're NOT
    serious about controlling Chinese organized crime - and who knows how
    relations might improve if they were. (My personal view is that
    they're using the drug trade to debilitate North America while growing
    their own economy which they hope will surpass the United States
    economy in the next 20-30 years)

    If they did that they might even improve relations with the US, Canada
    and Mexico
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Fri May 8 15:04:11 2026
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    On 2026-05-08 2:29 p.m., The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Mon, 4 May 2026 20:29:58 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    If the Chinese government is so worried about looking bad due to its
    oppression, the easiest way to remedy that is to stop oppressing people.

    As I said in my previous post, the other way China could look far less
    bad is to get serious about cracking down on their drug lords who are
    THE major factor in the North American illicit drug trade. They're NOT serious about controlling Chinese organized crime - and who knows how relations might improve if they were. (My personal view is that
    they're using the drug trade to debilitate North America while growing
    their own economy which they hope will surpass the United States
    economy in the next 20-30 years)

    If they did that they might even improve relations with the US, Canada
    and Mexico

    I'm betting the CCP gets very serious kickbacks from the Chinese drug
    cartels, which strongly dis-incentivizes them from cracking down.
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.tv on Sun May 10 23:29:51 2026
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    On 2026-05-08 2:15 p.m., The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Mon, 4 May 2026 10:50:48 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I am deeply skeptical that our Prime Minister will take a stand against
    China in this matter. He recently went to China hat-in-hand to try to
    improve our trading relationship with China. Our economy is in the
    dumper after Trump's tariffs were imposed and Carney's been unable to
    move the needle on that. He seems to prefer defending the Iranian regime
    over its people and cozying up to China.

    A big chunk of that has been the tanking of the Canadian dollar (which
    is usually quoted on international markets in equivalent to US dollar amounts).

    There's been a fair bit of kvetching from Whatcom County, WA (which is
    the county adjoining Canada north of Seattle) about this as their
    economy has always been closely linked to Canada's but since Trump II
    getting less so. Some of the Whatcom County are saying some pretty
    extreme things about Canada but the REAL reason is that due to Trump's policies the Canuck buck has dropped 5-7% against the greenback and
    thus ANYTHING priced in US dollars is up that much in price. Whereas
    Canadian vendors have raised prices on certain US goods, it's the
    higher price (in Canuck bucks) that's the "culprit" rather than anti-Americanism.

    My read on the situation is that none of the likely Trump successors
    (in either party) are likely to continue the current tariffs that have
    been so damaging so it's reasonable to expect whatever Canadian angst
    there is to disappear come January 2029. I'm in a Facebook group
    consisting of my cousins and 2nd cousins (about 2/3 of which are
    American) and I certainly do not see the animus that some reporters
    have claimed.

    The legacy media lie as easily - and frequently - as they breathe. From
    the moment Trudeau started giving the media money, money they needed
    because their audiences are shrinking, they've had very little to say
    against the Liberal Party, including Trudeau or Carney, because they
    want them in power. If Poilievre manages to become PM, their funding
    will diminish drastically and they face the prospect of going belly-up.
    So they insist that the Alberta separatists all want to join the US when
    it's only a small fringe that's leaning that way. They largely ignore
    the economy other than vague acknowledgement that people are concerned
    about the cost of living. They ignore the fact that Carney, who was
    supposed to tame Trump, has proven completely unable to do so. They
    ignore that he is cozying up to China or minimize the danger. Etc. etc.


    (Right now the major question in that group tends to be over a family
    history my aunt - born in the US but has lived in Canada the last
    45-50 years - who has compiled a family history which is extremely
    good but doesn't cover anything beyond 2000-2005 - and the discussion
    is (1) over making an electronic version of her book and (2) figuring
    out how to update it given marriages, births, deaths since her 2005
    edition - for instance both my parents are listed as alive in 2005 but
    both have since passed, and marriages and children born since then)
    --
    Rhino
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