• Could This Have Saved Star Trek: Enterprise?

    From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Fri Oct 24 04:30:42 2025
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    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the
    NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.

    https://youtu.be/aoI78qQjW_M?si=KzFsJtu00LGLVI4m


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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Fri Oct 24 16:17:04 2025
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    Firing Berman and Braga years earlier? Possibly.


    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.

    https://youtu.be/aoI78qQjW_M?si=KzFsJtu00LGLVI4m


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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Thu Oct 30 23:44:38 2025
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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.
    /snip

    I could never get into Enterprise. One of the local broadcast channels
    in my area has star trek every night starting with the TOS through, I
    think, Enterprise. The episodes are broadcast in order.

    I TRIED to enjoy Enterprise. Just couldn't get into it. Acting was
    fine. The cast seemed to have a good chemistry. Maybe I was treked out
    at the time. Or maybe a bit of bias.

    Discovery was a fucking waste. I feel bad too, because most of the
    actors did a good job with what they had. Picard, I couldn't get through
    Season 1. It was soooooo lame. Though, I've heard the latest season was
    really good to those who suffered through the previous seasons.

    If I could get an original VHS set of TOS it would be great. When 'they'
    added computer graphics to TOS for the modern era, it cheapened the show
    to me. I prefer the original. I'm nostalgic for the imagination.

    D
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Fri Oct 31 02:01:53 2025
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    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid
    addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was
    well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl >> long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really >> should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into >> longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for
    most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe
    episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the >> NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series
    episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror
    universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that >> two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William >> Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing
    Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.
    /snip

    I could never get into Enterprise. One of the local broadcast channels
    in my area has star trek every night starting with the TOS through, I
    think, Enterprise. The episodes are broadcast in order.

    I TRIED to enjoy Enterprise. Just couldn't get into it. Acting was
    fine. The cast seemed to have a good chemistry. Maybe I was treked out
    at the time. Or maybe a bit of bias.

    Discovery was a fucking waste. I feel bad too, because most of the
    actors did a good job with what they had. Picard, I couldn't get through Season 1. It was soooooo lame. Though, I've heard the latest season was really good to those who suffered through the previous seasons.

    If I could get an original VHS set of TOS it would be great. When 'they' added computer graphics to TOS for the modern era, it cheapened the show
    to me. I prefer the original. I'm nostalgic for the imagination.

    D


    rCLRemasteredrCY TOS with its low end video game CGI replacement FX is a travesty. My Blu-ray set gives you the option of watching the crappy new version or the cleaned up live action with the original FX.
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Fri Oct 31 04:30:46 2025
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    In article <87qzujr2nd.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid
    addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was
    well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl >> long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really >> should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into >> longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for
    most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe
    episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the >> NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series
    episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror
    universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that >> two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William >> Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing
    Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.
    /snip

    I could never get into Enterprise. One of the local broadcast channels
    in my area has star trek every night starting with the TOS through, I
    think, Enterprise. The episodes are broadcast in order.

    I always fell alseep when I tried to watch it, save for the Mirror Universe onbe.

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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Sat Nov 1 14:08:37 2025
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    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    In article <87qzujr2nd.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid
    addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was
    well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl >>> long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really >>> should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into
    longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for
    most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe >>> episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the >>> NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series
    episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror
    universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that
    two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William >>> Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing >>> Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.
    /snip

    I could never get into Enterprise. One of the local broadcast channels
    in my area has star trek every night starting with the TOS through, I >>think, Enterprise. The episodes are broadcast in order.

    I always fell alseep when I tried to watch it, save for the Mirror Universe onbe.

    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.

    Lack of creativity is all.

    Very little scifi i can enjoy anymore.

    D
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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Sat Nov 1 14:10:33 2025
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    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid
    addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was
    well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl >>> long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really >>> should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into
    longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for
    most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe >>> episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the >>> NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series
    episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror
    universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that
    two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William >>> Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing >>> Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.
    /snip

    I could never get into Enterprise. One of the local broadcast channels
    in my area has star trek every night starting with the TOS through, I
    think, Enterprise. The episodes are broadcast in order.

    I TRIED to enjoy Enterprise. Just couldn't get into it. Acting was
    fine. The cast seemed to have a good chemistry. Maybe I was treked out
    at the time. Or maybe a bit of bias.

    Discovery was a fucking waste. I feel bad too, because most of the
    actors did a good job with what they had. Picard, I couldn't get through
    Season 1. It was soooooo lame. Though, I've heard the latest season was
    really good to those who suffered through the previous seasons.

    If I could get an original VHS set of TOS it would be great. When 'they'
    added computer graphics to TOS for the modern era, it cheapened the show
    to me. I prefer the original. I'm nostalgic for the imagination.

    D


    rCLRemasteredrCY TOS with its low end video game CGI replacement FX is a travesty. My Blu-ray set gives you the option of watching the crappy new version or the cleaned up live action with the original FX.

    Thanks for telling me. I'll tell the old battle axe what I want for
    christmas, then. You made my day.

    D
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Sat Nov 1 14:57:59 2025
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    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> writes:

    Star Trek Enterprise had only really hit its stride and become a solid >>>> addition to the franchise by the third season of the show. The Zindi arc was
    well written and packed full of action, intrigue, and a compelling seasonl
    long story. But it was season 4 that made Enterprise the prequel it really
    should have been from the beginning. At last, we got stories that tied into
    longtime Trek cannon. Some brilliant episodes and fantastic writing. But for
    most fans, the highlight of that season was the two-part mirror universe >>>> episode, In a Mirror Darkly, where we see mirror universe versions of the >>>> NX01 crew, and they encounter the USS Defiant from the original series >>>> episode, The Tholian Web. The ship was sent back in time and into the mirror
    universe, and we got a fun two-parter out of that show. Now, as fun as that
    two-parter was, it could have potentially been even better because William
    Shatner was originally supposed to appear in those two episodes playing >>>> Tiberius, the mirror universe version of Captain James T. Kirk.
    /snip

    I could never get into Enterprise. One of the local broadcast channels
    in my area has star trek every night starting with the TOS through, I
    think, Enterprise. The episodes are broadcast in order.

    I TRIED to enjoy Enterprise. Just couldn't get into it. Acting was
    fine. The cast seemed to have a good chemistry. Maybe I was treked out
    at the time. Or maybe a bit of bias.

    Discovery was a fucking waste. I feel bad too, because most of the
    actors did a good job with what they had. Picard, I couldn't get through >>> Season 1. It was soooooo lame. Though, I've heard the latest season was
    really good to those who suffered through the previous seasons.

    If I could get an original VHS set of TOS it would be great. When 'they' >>> added computer graphics to TOS for the modern era, it cheapened the show >>> to me. I prefer the original. I'm nostalgic for the imagination.

    D


    rCLRemasteredrCY TOS with its low end video game CGI replacement FX is a
    travesty. My Blu-ray set gives you the option of watching the crappy new
    version or the cleaned up live action with the original FX.

    Thanks for telling me. I'll tell the old battle axe what I want for christmas, then. You made my day.

    D


    :D

    Just do your due diligence because there are a lot of different DVD and
    Blu-ray sets and I donrCOt know right off hand if they all have the good version.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Sat Nov 1 18:01:03 2025
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    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like getting milk at the corner store.


    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.


    Melissa

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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Sat Nov 1 23:35:48 2025
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.


    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.


    Melissa



    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the intolerant Galactose himself.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise on Sun Nov 2 20:01:29 2025
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    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

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    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >getting milk at the corner store.

    Lack of creativity is all.

    I find the mirror universe a great idea to give the audience a change,
    broaden the possibilities for the writers and for the actors to show
    that they can do different than their normal role.

    Very little scifi i can enjoy anymore.

    Isn it sad when you spoil the fun for yourself instead of just
    enjoying?

    Greetings
    Marc
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise on Sun Nov 2 08:18:53 2025
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    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)



    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them across the galaxy?
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Mon Nov 3 10:37:44 2025
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    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first iteration of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".




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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Nov 3 10:43:28 2025
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    On 2025-11-02 21:37:44 +0000, Your Name said:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>> intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first iteration >> of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and >> then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the >> goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them >> across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".

    Of course, the comic book industry is just as bad, with massive
    contridcitions thanks to continually altering the stories. :-(

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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Sun Nov 2 22:26:45 2025
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    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>> intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first iteration >> of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and >> then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the >> goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them >> across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".


    DidnrCOt the world end in knight Rider in 2010 or something?
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise on Mon Nov 3 20:14:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    On 2025-11-03 05:26:45 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal >>>>> humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth >>>> and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely >>> wiped out and then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems
    unlikely, and then the goauld came here in unas form and started
    culling slaves and spreading them across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".

    Didn'COt the world end in knight Rider in 2010 or something?

    I don't know that it ended, but the incredibly awful "Knight Rider
    2010" movie was set in a dystopian Mad Max style world wherea lot of
    things were gone ... including apparently the intelligence of the
    people who made that utter garbage. It had *nothing* at all to do with
    the TV series, so is easily ignored.


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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Nov 3 04:39:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    In article <10e8ja0$2ds87$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 21:37:44 +0000, Your Name said:
    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...

    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal >>>>> humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth >>>> and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first iteration >>> of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and >>> then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the >>> goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them >>> across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".

    Of course, the comic book industry is just as bad, with massive >contridcitions thanks to continually altering the stories. :-(

    CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS was sppsd to fix it, and it did, mostly.

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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Mon Nov 3 10:45:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just
    normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>> intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to
    Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)
    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and >> then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the >> goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them >> across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion
    that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a
    purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that
    they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it
    less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't
    seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.
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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Mon Nov 3 13:30:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> writes:

    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>getting milk at the corner store.

    Lack of creativity is all.

    I find the mirror universe a great idea to give the audience a change, broaden the possibilities for the writers and for the actors to show
    that they can do different than their normal role.

    The mirror universe was a great story as told in TOS.

    Glad you like it, clearly you fall into their target demographic. I can't
    be more happy for you.

    Very little scifi i can enjoy anymore.

    Isn it sad when you spoil the fun for yourself instead of just
    enjoying?

    Not a good assumption.

    The content must be enjoyable to be enjoyed. Most movies today
    are resulting in a downward spiral in revenue. Most seem to be saved
    by international ticket sales. A few decades ago, the market standard of success fell at domestic sales while international results were listed as footnotes. It is no longer the case. The cinema is quickly becoming a
    thing of the past. This wouldn't be the case if the films were
    enjoyable and covid can't be blamed for it all. Today, international
    sales must be counted for the movie houses to count success.

    To be fair, sci-fi has been replaced by many reboots of superhero
    junk. How many times have we been given the same superman origin story?
    I aged out of the superhero genre a long time ago but did watch the
    first two Avengers movies. First one was good, second one wasn't.

    I've watched many movies in the scifi genre with zero expectations -
    almost all were easy to forget. In the modern era, many movies are made
    for their previews it seems. The targeted demographics are the age group
    least likely to view the content critically... The youth.

    After about the age of seventeen or eighteen, I began viewing my scifi critically. I was no longer blankly watching for explosions and
    listening for funny quips. If you ignore the bad stories and bad dialog
    and crappy acting, then it's enjoyable.

    There are films I enjoyed in my youth that are corny and unwatchable
    today. Some of us hold high standards for films that demand a high
    ticket price. I have better things to do than to spend good money on a
    movie if I don't intend to enjoy it.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise on Mon Nov 3 16:58:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-03 05:26:45 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal >>>>>> humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth >>>>> and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely >>>> wiped out and then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems
    unlikely, and then the goauld came here in unas form and started
    culling slaves and spreading them across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".

    Didn'COt the world end in knight Rider in 2010 or something?

    I don't know that it ended, but the incredibly awful "Knight Rider
    2010" movie was set in a dystopian Mad Max style world wherea lot of
    things were gone ... including apparently the intelligence of the
    people who made that utter garbage. It had *nothing* at all to do with
    the TV series, so is easily ignored.

    It did have the hauntingly beautiful Hudson Leick, who played the ghost who inhabited the car.
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Mon Nov 3 16:58:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    In article <10e8ja0$2ds87$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 21:37:44 +0000, Your Name said:
    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...

    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal >>>>>> humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth >>>>> and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the >>>> goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".

    Of course, the comic book industry is just as bad, with massive
    contridcitions thanks to continually altering the stories. :-(

    CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS was sppsd to fix it, and it did, mostly.



    Except they still keep retconning CRISIS to this day, including this very
    week, where it turned out doomsday wasnrCOt there to kill Superman he was
    there to kill Darkside

    I donrCOt think thererCOs anything post CRISIS that isnrCOt worse than it was pre-CRISIS
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Mon Nov 3 16:58:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just
    normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to
    Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)
    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and >>> then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the >>> goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them >>> across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion
    that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that
    they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't
    seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Mon Nov 3 17:38:43 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just
    normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to
    Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)
    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the >>>> goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion
    that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a
    purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that
    they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it >> less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't
    seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale

    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't
    "know" until the finale.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise on Tue Nov 4 15:06:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    On 2025-11-02 21:43:28 +0000, Your Name said:
    On 2025-11-02 21:37:44 +0000, Your Name said:
    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like >>>>>>> getting milk at the corner store.

    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.

    Melissa

    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal >>>>> humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.

    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth >>>> and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)

    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely >>> wiped out and then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems
    unlikely, and then the goauld came here in unas form and started
    culling slaves and spreading them across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".

    Of course, the comic book industry is just as bad, with massive contridcitions thanks to continually altering the stories. :-(

    Of course, it's not really anything new either. If you look back at the original old stories for things like Robin Hood and King Arthur, they
    were "rebooted" numerous times long before most people could even read,
    let alone TV and movies were invented. Many of the characters (Maid
    Marion for example), etc. were later additions to the stories by other
    people.


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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Mon Nov 3 23:59:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just
    normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to
    Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-)
    Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of >>>> Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion >>> that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a
    purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that
    they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it >>> less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't
    seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale

    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't "know" until the finale.


    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their wrists during an autopsy
    --
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise on Tue Nov 4 04:40:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    In article <10ebn3n$3avjl$1@dont-email.me>,
    YourName@YourISP.com says...
    Many of the characters (Maid
    Marion for example), etc. were later additions to the stories by other people.



    Maid Marion originally had her own story, in which she
    defended herself against a knight who meant to rape her,
    killed him, and had to flee to the woods. I'm guessing
    some forgotten storyteller thought that Robin and Marion
    would make a good crossover.

    Robin originally dated a gal named Clorinda, described as
    "the queen of shepherdesses" but without much else to go
    on.


    Melissa



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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Tue Nov 4 06:36:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    On 11/3/2025 10:59 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just >>>>>>>> normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to >>>>>>> Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of >>>>> Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion >>>> that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a >>>> purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that >>>> they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it >>>> less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't
    seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale >>>
    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't
    "know" until the finale.


    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their wrists during an autopsy

    Or the LED lights in their spines. ;)
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    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Tue Nov 4 17:40:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 10:59 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says... >>>>>>>>>>> The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just >>>>>>>>> normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to >>>>>>>> Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first >>>>>>> iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of >>>>>> Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now >>>>>> there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a >>>>>> third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar >>>>>> Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion >>>>> that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a >>>>> purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that >>>>> they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it
    less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't >>>>> seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale >>>>
    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't
    "know" until the finale.


    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their
    wrists during an autopsy

    Or the LED lights in their spines. ;)


    In a blaze of stupidity, which goes to show what a wretched program it was, they actually addressed that when the producers told the audience that the spines donrCOt actually glow and the other characters wouldnrCOt see it, but they just did it so the audience would know which Cylons were having
    orgasms.

    Of course, since everybody was a cylon, why did it possibly matter?

    Except for star dough. I guess she wasnrCOt as cylon was she. But nobody
    wanted her to have an orgasm anyway.
    --
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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Tue Nov 4 23:05:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 10:59 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says... >>>>>>>>>>>> The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just >>>>>>>>>> normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to >>>>>>>>> Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first >>>>>>>> iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of >>>>>>> Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now >>>>>>> there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a >>>>>>> third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar >>>>>>> Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the >>>>>> genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion >>>>>> that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a >>>>>> purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that >>>>>> they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it
    less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't >>>>>> seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale >>>>>
    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't >>>> "know" until the finale.


    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their
    wrists during an autopsy

    Or the LED lights in their spines. ;)


    In a blaze of stupidity, which goes to show what a wretched program it was, they actually addressed that when the producers told the audience that the spines donrCOt actually glow and the other characters wouldnrCOt see it, but they just did it so the audience would know which Cylons were having
    orgasms.

    Of course, since everybody was a cylon, why did it possibly matter?

    Except for star dough. I guess she wasnrCOt as cylon was she. But nobody wanted her to have an orgasm anyway.

    Can you explain 'star dough?' Second time I have seen that reference in
    this thread..

    Oh, is there a good Battlestar Galactica newsgroup?
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Nov 5 20:09:54 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    On 2025-11-05 07:05:38 +0000, Daniel said:

    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 10:59 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says... >>>>>>>>>>>>> The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just >>>>>>>>>>>> Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just >>>>>>>>>>> normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to >>>>>>>>>> Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first >>>>>>>>> iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of >>>>>>>> Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now >>>>>>>> there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a >>>>>>>> third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar >>>>>>>> Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern >>>>>>> media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the >>>>>>> genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then >>>>>>> complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion
    that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of >>>>>>> pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a >>>>>>> purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that >>>>>>> they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it
    less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't >>>>>>> seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale

    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't >>>>> "know" until the finale.


    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their
    wrists during an autopsy

    Or the LED lights in their spines. ;)


    In a blaze of stupidity, which goes to show what a wretched program it was, >> they actually addressed that when the producers told the audience that the >> spines donrCOt actually glow and the other characters wouldnrCOt see it, but >> they just did it so the audience would know which Cylons were having
    orgasms.

    Of course, since everybody was a cylon, why did it possibly matter?

    Except for star dough. I guess she wasnrCOt as cylon was she. But nobody
    wanted her to have an orgasm anyway.

    Can you explain 'star dough?' Second time I have seen that reference in
    this thread..

    They mean "Stardoe", as opposed to Starbuck ... unless they think the
    actress is soft, pudgey, and easily manipulated. ;-)



    Oh, is there a good Battlestar Galactica newsgroup?

    alt.battlestar-galactica
    although there's rarely anything in it.

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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Wed Nov 5 07:50:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 10:59 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says... >>>>>>>>>>>>> The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just >>>>>>>>>>>> Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just >>>>>>>>>>> normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to >>>>>>>>>> Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first >>>>>>>>> iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of >>>>>>>> Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now >>>>>>>> there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a >>>>>>>> third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar >>>>>>>> Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern >>>>>>> media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the >>>>>>> genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then >>>>>>> complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion
    that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of >>>>>>> pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a >>>>>>> purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that >>>>>>> they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it
    less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't >>>>>>> seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale

    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't >>>>> "know" until the finale.


    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their
    wrists during an autopsy

    Or the LED lights in their spines. ;)


    In a blaze of stupidity, which goes to show what a wretched program it was, >> they actually addressed that when the producers told the audience that the >> spines donrCOt actually glow and the other characters wouldnrCOt see it, but >> they just did it so the audience would know which Cylons were having
    orgasms.

    Of course, since everybody was a cylon, why did it possibly matter?

    Except for star dough. I guess she wasnrCOt as cylon was she. But nobody
    wanted her to have an orgasm anyway.

    Can you explain 'star dough?' Second time I have seen that reference in
    this thread..

    The original series had Starbuck.

    The reboot series had Starbuck but made him a girl. Hence Stardoe.

    Spellcheck changes Stardoe into Star Dough. No matter how many times I
    change it back.


    Oh, is there a good Battlestar Galactica newsgroup?


    WouldnrCOt that require good Battlestar Galactica?
    --
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise on Thu Nov 6 10:52:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    On 2025-11-05 14:50:17 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 10:59 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in TOS.
    It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just >>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first >>>>>>>>>> iteration of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely
    wiped out and then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems >>>>>>>>>> unlikely, and then the goauld came here in unas form and started >>>>>>>>>> culling slaves and spreading them across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now >>>>>>>>> there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a >>>>>>>>> third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar >>>>>>>>> Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern >>>>>>>> media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the >>>>>>>> genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then >>>>>>>> complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the >>>>>>>> notion that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a
    purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that
    they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made
    it less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. >>>>>>>> Haven't seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.

    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale

    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't >>>>>> "know" until the finale.

    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in >>>>> their wrists during an autopsy

    Or the LED lights in their spines. ;)

    In a blaze of stupidity, which goes to show what a wretched program it
    was, they actually addressed that when the producers told the audience
    that the spines donrCOt actually glow and the other characters wouldnrCOt >>> see it, but they just did it so the audience would know which Cylons
    were having orgasms.

    Of course, since everybody was a cylon, why did it possibly matter?

    Except for star dough. I guess she wasnrCOt as cylon was she. But nobody >>> wanted her to have an orgasm anyway.

    Can you explain 'star dough?' Second time I have seen that reference in
    this thread..

    The original series had Starbuck.

    The reboot series had Starbuck but made him a girl. Hence Stardoe.

    Spellcheck changes Stardoe into Star Dough. No matter how many times I change it back.

    You're unlucky that it doesn't change it to 'sour dough' ... perhaps a
    more fitting nickname for that actress / character. :-p



    Oh, is there a good Battlestar Galactica newsgroup?

    WouldnrCOt that require good Battlestar Galactica?

    That would be the original version made the way tyhe person with the
    creative talent to come up with the idea wanted it made ... as a "Star
    Wars for TV" series. As opposed to the garbage reboot made by a
    talentless moron who egotistically thought he knew how it 'should have
    been made'. :-\



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  • From Daniel@me@sc1f1dan.com to rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Nov 5 22:01:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-05 07:05:38 +0000, Daniel said:

    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> writes:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 10:59 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in
    TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just >>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just >>>>>>>>>>>> normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the
    intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to >>>>>>>>>>> Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first >>>>>>>>>> iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?
    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate
    versions of
    Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now >>>>>>>>> there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a >>>>>>>>> third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\
    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as
    Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing >>>>>>>>> "reboots".
    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in
    modern
    media.
    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past,
    change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then >>>>>>>> complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion
    that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of >>>>>>>> pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a
    purple haired woman to replace him.
    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly
    irked that
    they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it
    less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't >>>>>>>> seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.

    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until
    the finale

    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't >>>>>> "know" until the finale.

    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports >>>>> in their
    wrists during an autopsy

    Or the LED lights in their spines. ;)

    In a blaze of stupidity, which goes to show what a wretched program
    it was,
    they actually addressed that when the producers told the audience that the >>> spines donrCOt actually glow and the other characters wouldnrCOt see it, but
    they just did it so the audience would know which Cylons were having
    orgasms.
    Of course, since everybody was a cylon, why did it possibly matter?
    Except for star dough. I guess she wasnrCOt as cylon was she. But
    nobody
    wanted her to have an orgasm anyway.
    Can you explain 'star dough?' Second time I have seen that reference
    in
    this thread..

    They mean "Stardoe", as opposed to Starbuck ... unless they think the
    actress is soft, pudgey, and easily manipulated. ;-)

    I figured but it was worth the ask




    Oh, is there a good Battlestar Galactica newsgroup?

    alt.battlestar-galactica
    although there's rarely anything in it.

    You pessimist you. I liked the original.

    My wife and I watched part of it back in 2006ish and called it something
    like Battleshit Getfuckedica.

    I watched it years later while down with the flu and didn't hate it.
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current,alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Fri Nov 7 21:33:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2025-11-02 15:18:53 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2025-11-02 06:35:48 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    In article <878qgp8nqi.fsf@rpi3>, me@sc1f1dan.com says...
    The mirror universe thread should've stayed where it started - in >>>>>>>>>> TOS. It was SO lame how they folded it into a routine place to go like
    getting milk at the corner store.
    Trek always does this: It hints at SF, then turns
    everything mundane. Even the Borg turned out to be Just
    Like Us in the end.
    Melissa
    I absolutely hate origins that turn alien characters into just >>>>>>>> normal
    humans who got transformed from the silver surfer to the Daleks to the >>>>>>>> intolerant Galactose himself.
    There's always the opposite approach, where humans are brought to >>>>>>> Earth
    and other planets by aliens (Stargate would be one example). :-) >>>>>> Stargate history has never made much sense. Apparently the first
    iteration
    of humans came to earth from Pegasus and then were completely wiped out and
    then re-emerged on earth independently, which seems unlikely, and then the
    goauld came here in unas form and started culling slaves and spreading them
    across the galaxy?

    Part of the reason is that there are actually two separate versions of >>>>> Stargate franchise - the movie version and the TV version. Even now
    there are two lots of plans for more in both versions, as well as a
    third reboot plan. Hopefully they all get binned. :-\

    There are similar issues with other franchises, such as Battlestar
    Galactica, Knight Rider, etc. thanks to the lazy idiots doing
    "reboots".

    It seems we are simpatico about the lack of creativity in modern
    media.

    Today's mantra is, reboot something that worked in past, change the
    genders and races of the heroes because no one will notice, then
    complain about the lack of audience when it fails. Forgetting the notion >>>> that the audience being targeted don't wish to be the subject of
    pandering. Don't forget to kill off the heroes of the past and inject a >>>> purple haired woman to replace him.

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that >>>> they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it >>>> less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't
    seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.


    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale >>>
    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't
    "know" until the finale.


    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their wrists during an autopsy


    Hey, BTR, are you getting one of those?
    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to alt.tv.star-trek.enterprise,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv on Sat Nov 8 20:51:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.startrek.misc

    On Nov 7, 2025 at 8:33:22 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 11/3/2025 3:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:

    While I did enjoy the Galactica reboot, I was only slightly irked that >>>>> they changed Starbuck's sex. I would have loved the reboot if they made it
    less predictable. The secret was revealed on the pilot, iirc. Haven't >>>>> seen the show in two decades, so I could be wrong.

    I donrCOt think the secret about star dough was revealed until the finale >>>>
    I remember there being hints during the final season but yes, we didn't >>> "know" until the finale.

    I still donrCOt know how the hell they couldnrCOt find the USB ports in their
    wrists during an autopsy

    Hey, BTR, are you getting one of those?

    That's a more expensive upgrade and you also have to get the glowy orgasm
    spine at the same time. They're not sold separately.


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