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This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
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This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.
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In article <MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

Some like what is happening in DW cis-a-vis The Timeless Child!

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On 2026-03-09 11:57:06 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

That because there are fewer people who know how to make the shows
properly, and more idiots that want to shoehorn in their own ridiculous ill-fitting ideas.

As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the
"Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even
knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew
it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely
no idea at all. X-(


* Although he was alone. The later rather silly CGI animated series
also added more ill-fitting silliness.


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As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the
"Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew
it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely
no idea at all. X-(

Okay, but is that relevant to Trek? Or do you just mean that you hate
him for that?
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On 2026-03-09 22:35:54 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <10ong8b$3oker$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the
"Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even
knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew
it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely
no idea at all. X-(

Okay, but is that relevant to Trek? Or do you just mean that you hate
him for that?

He's basically saying more people don't like each "new Trek" for
whatever rason, but he ruined Thunderbirds ... so he is a great example
of how things do get ruined by new idiots being put in charge.


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The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

It's a growing movement. People want it to stop altogether. I guess the community still cares about the whole thing. The franchise was epsteined
so I don't care either way. My breaking point was STD. Picard was
unwatchable. I won't bother with the shit in production. The premise is sooooooooo fucking stupid.

Objections to TNG were very minimal. My evidence on it was the sudden
surge in convention attendance. It grew leaps and bounds during the TNG
era. Resistence to DS9 came from the fact that it wasn't based on a
ship. I have friends who still refuse to watch DS9 because none of them consider starfleet politics a compelling story basis. So, to them it's
all preference.

I was in the service during DS9's run so I didn't watch it until many
years later. Rather enjoyed it. It was fun to watch the actors interpret characters who didn't really like or trust each other and learn to work together in a cohesive unit. And, also, characters who didn't want to
be there to begin with. The acting on that show was really worthy.

Also, bonus the recurring female actors were eye candy.

Daniel
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The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other >> > > produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call >> > > us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so >> > > and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first
season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and tone as well.

Yeah, forgot about that show. It was quite solid.

The guy who played Sulu was the engineer dude from mythbusters.
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On 2026-03-11 19:10:01 +0000, Daniel said:

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call >>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

It's a growing movement. People want it to stop altogether. I guess the community still cares about the whole thing. The franchise was
epsteined so I don't care either way. My breaking point was STD. Picard
was unwatchable. I won't bother with the shit in production. The
premise is sooooooooo fucking stupid.

Objections to TNG were very minimal. My evidence on it was the sudden
surge in convention attendance. It grew leaps and bounds during the TNG
era. Resistence to DS9 came from the fact that it wasn't based on a
ship. I have friends who still refuse to watch DS9 because none of them consider starfleet politics a compelling story basis. So, to them it's
all preference.

Some complaints were also that is was simply a rip-off of "Babylon 5"
since both were based around a space station, but "Deep Space 9" has
far less political nonsense and is a MUCH MUCH MUCH better show. "Deep
Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo,
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").

I was in the service during DS9's run so I didn't watch it until many
years later. Rather enjoyed it. It was fun to watch the actors
interpret characters who didn't really like or trust each other and
learn to work together in a cohesive unit. And, also, characters who
didn't want to be there to begin with. The acting on that show was
really worthy.

Also, bonus the recurring female actors were eye candy.

Daniel
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"Deep
Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo,
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").

What's your pick for the best?
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On 2026-03-11 21:15:52 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

"Deep Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo,
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the
downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").

What's your pick for the best?

I liked both "The Next Generation" and "Voyager", although both had
their share of silly episodes (including pointless "big red reset
button" episodes).

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On 2026-03-11 21:15:52 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>, did YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

"Deep Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo,
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the
downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").

What's your pick for the best?

I liked both "The Next Generation" and "Voyager", although both had
their share of silly episodes (including pointless "big red reset
button" episodes).

ST:TNG might be my favorite overall. The first year was rough and the
last couple were a little silly, but the midrange was good IMO.

Did you watch Star Trek: Lower Decks? It's a comedy, but it does respect
the canon, and it's set shortly after Voyager's return.
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On 2026-03-12 11:25:52 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <10osupd$1hntc$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

On 2026-03-11 21:15:52 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

"Deep Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets
mumbo-jumbo, but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the
pre-downfall shows (the downfall started with the ridiculous
"Enterprise").

What's your pick for the best?

I liked both "The Next Generation" and "Voyager", although both had
their share of silly episodes (including pointless "big red reset
button" episodes).

ST:TNG might be my favorite overall. The first year was rough and the
last couple were a little silly, but the midrange was good IMO.

Did you watch Star Trek: Lower Decks? It's a comedy, but it does
respect the canon, and it's set shortly after Voyager's return.

I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

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I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
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The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.

I was told the show is good and a final episode seemingly de-cannonized
STD. Not sure if that was said to tempt me. I'm not opposed to watching
it, just hasn't garnered enough interest.
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unto us this message:

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.

I was told the show is good and a final episode seemingly de-cannonized
STD. Not sure if that was said to tempt me. I'm not opposed to watching
it, just hasn't garnered enough interest.

I didn't watch STD, so I don't know.

Maybe that was another factor in its cancellation. The rumor is that
Alex Kurtzman cancelled ST:LD because he was frustrated that it had more viewers than STD, which he regarded as the serious show.

It was a reasonable time to cancel it, though. Five good years is long
enough, and every show gets stale eventually. I just hope they keep
their promise to make another lighthearted show.
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On 2026-03-13 12:06:54 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did

YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.

"5 mins" was just a guesstimate. It was at the idiotic "Oil me up,
Scotty" scene that I realised the show was simply garbage.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.

Difficult for it to be worse. "Enterprise" was pure drivel. :-p


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On 2026-03-13 17:06:40 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <87ms0bfzn5.fsf@rpi3>, did me@sc1f1dan.com deliver
unto us this message:

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.

I was told the show is good and a final episode seemingly de-cannonized
STD. Not sure if that was said to tempt me. I'm not opposed to watching
it, just hasn't garnered enough interest.

I didn't watch STD, so I don't know.

Maybe that was another factor in its cancellation. The rumor is that
Alex Kurtzman cancelled ST:LD because he was frustrated that it had
more viewers than STD, which he regarded as the serious show.

It was a reasonable time to cancel it, though. Five good years is long enough, and every show gets stale eventually. I just hope they keep
their promise to make another lighthearted show.

I don't know about light-hearted, but in terms of animated Star Trek,
there is "Star Trek: Prodigy" and "Star Trek: Scouts" (webseries aimed
at preschoolers), but I haven't seen those yet either.

The creator of "Star Trek: Lower Decks" is making a new adult animated
sci-fi show called "Odd Jobs" for Amazon Prime. <https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/lower-decks-mike-mcmahan-odd-jobs-sci-fi>



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On Mar 13, 2026, Your Name wrote
(in article <10p2150$3ku8m$1@dont-email.me>):

On 2026-03-13 12:06:54 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did

YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.

"5 mins" was just a guesstimate. It was at the idiotic "Oil me up,
Scotty" scene that I realised the show was simply garbage.

you mean the scene where itrCOs established that Vulcan females have points
on their anatomy other than their ears? That was pretty much where I bailed.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.

Difficult for it to be worse.

Lower Decksa was actually pretty good.

"Enterprise" was pure drivel. :-p

The Mirror Universe episodes were okay. They would be the only Ent epis that
I watched all the way through. The Evil Empress was worth the wait.

Lower Decks, now, LD was _funny_. And didsnrCOt take itself seriously.

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On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first
season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
tone as well.

If itrCOs like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no prob. If itrCOs like SpockrCOs Brain, IrCOll pass.

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WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:

On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so >> > > > and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >> > > higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop >> > > than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New >> > Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the
first
season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
tone as well.

If itrCOs like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no prob. If itrCOs like SpockrCOs Brain, IrCOll pass.

I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
about it from sources I respect.

Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved
franchise isn't truly dead...

Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is
much more deader-er than star trek.

D
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On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:

WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:

On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
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On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other >>>>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and >>>>>> call us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively >>>>>> doing so and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek >>>>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >>>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop >>>>> than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New >>>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the >>>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better >>>> than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy. >>>

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and >>> tone as well.

If it's like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no prob. If
itrCOs like SpockrCOs Brain, IrCOll pass.

I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
about it from sources I respect.

Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved
franchise isn't truly dead...

Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is
much more deader-er than star trek.

D

Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the live-action ones.


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On 3/10/2026 12:05 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other >>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call >>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so >>>> and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New
Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first
season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco. >> I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
tone as well.

I watched 'Continues' back when it came out. As I recall it was
ultimately responsible for killing off all the Star Trek fan productions because they started raising money to make a Star Trek movie. Paramount didn't mind the fan productions as long as they weren't trying to make
money but raising a million or two for a movie was way too much so they
had to let loose the lawyers of war and basically shut _everyone_ down.
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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:

WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:

On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>): >>>>>> Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did

weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and
all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us
and call us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out
actively doing so and it's a media opp.
https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star
Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >>>>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but >>>>>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
At some point there will be more people yelling at them to
please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A
Card. Strange New
Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the >>>>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far
better than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of
Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production
available on
YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of >>>> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and >>>> tone as well.

If it's like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no
prob. If
it|ore4raos like Spock|ore4raos Brain, I|ore4raoll pass.

I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
about it from sources I respect.
Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved
franchise isn't truly dead...
Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise
is much more deader-er than star trek.
D

Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the live-action ones.

Indeed, for sure. Way better. But those series are in the can. Sure
we're getting yet more maul. We'll see if Filoni will stick with his
normal form or if the promotion got to his head.

I hope...
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Verily, in article <10p2150$3ku8m$1@dont-email.me>, did
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"5 mins" was just a guesstimate. It was at the idiotic "Oil me up,
Scotty" scene that I realised the show was simply garbage.

Yeah, that's the one I meant. I think most viewers were taken aback.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.

Difficult for it to be worse. "Enterprise" was pure drivel. :-p

Enterprise did improve after the first episode. I never really got into
it, but when I did watch it, it was usually watchable. Still, I just
didn't get interested in it.

It might have had more of a chance if it had been *less* tied to ST:TOS. Enterprise was always trying to show the origin of what we'd seen on the classic show, and it might have benefited from being less prequel and
more show.
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On 2026-03-13 17:06:40 +0000, The True Melissa said:

Verily, in article <87ms0bfzn5.fsf@rpi3>, did me@sc1f1dan.com deliver
unto us this message:

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:

I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(

Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.

Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.

I was told the show is good and a final episode seemingly de-cannonized >> STD. Not sure if that was said to tempt me. I'm not opposed to watching >> it, just hasn't garnered enough interest.

I didn't watch STD, so I don't know.

Maybe that was another factor in its cancellation. The rumor is that
Alex Kurtzman cancelled ST:LD because he was frustrated that it had
more viewers than STD, which he regarded as the serious show.

It was a reasonable time to cancel it, though. Five good years is long enough, and every show gets stale eventually. I just hope they keep
their promise to make another lighthearted show.

I don't know about light-hearted, but in terms of animated Star Trek,
there is "Star Trek: Prodigy" and "Star Trek: Scouts" (webseries aimed
at preschoolers), but I haven't seen those yet either.

I'm not sure it's happening. The end of ST:LD implies that there will be
new adventures around Starbase 80, and I'm all set for it, but nothing
seems to be happening. It was probably shelved.

I guess we can't have fun while there are messages to be preached.

The creator of "Star Trek: Lower Decks" is making a new adult animated sci-fi show called "Odd Jobs" for Amazon Prime. <https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/lower-decks-mike-mcmahan-odd-jobs-sci-fi>

That sounds potentially interesting, but it's not worth subscribing to
Amazon Prime.
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Verily, in article <10p2c12$3p7jd$5@dont-email.me>, did
dtravel@sonic.net deliver unto us this message:

On 3/10/2026 12:05 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

Verily, in article <0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other >>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call >>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so >>>> and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop >>> than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New >> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first
season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and tone as well.

I watched 'Continues' back when it came out. As I recall it was
ultimately responsible for killing off all the Star Trek fan productions because they started raising money to make a Star Trek movie. Paramount didn't mind the fan productions as long as they weren't trying to make
money but raising a million or two for a movie was way too much so they
had to let loose the lawyers of war and basically shut _everyone_ down.

I watched a video about this the other day. You're thinking of Axanar,
which was done by a different group of fans. The Star Trek Continues
project was completed without incident.

There are a bunch of these. Star Trek Phase II is another one I see on YouTube, and there's one about the adventures of a ship called the
Farragut.
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On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didnrCOt much care for VrCOger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco.
I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

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Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):

Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the first
season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
tone as well.
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On 2026-03-14 08:43:48 +0000, Daniel said:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:

I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
about it from sources I respect. Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a
glimmer of hope that my beloved franchise isn't truly dead... Unlike
most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is much
more deader-er than star trek.
D

Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the
live-action ones.

Indeed, for sure. Way better. But those series are in the can. Sure
we're getting yet more maul. We'll see if Filoni will stick with his
normal form or if the promotion got to his head.

I hope...

"Young Jedi Adventures" is quite good - even though aimed at
youngsters, it is still better than some of the live-action shows /
movies!

There are also some more "Visions" animations coming some stage this year.

There was the "A Droid Story" animated series / film? announced by
Disney in 2020, but nothing more has been heard of it since then.


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In article <10p2c12$3p7jd$5@dont-email.me>, dtravel@sonic.net wrote:

On 3/10/2026 12:05 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

akwolffan@zoho.com wrote:

On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wrote

weberm@polaris.net wrote:

This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other >>>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call >>>>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so >>>>> and it's a media opp.

https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5

I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.

At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop >>>> than actually watching the latest show.

Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New >>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the >>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better
than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy.

I can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and
tone as well.

I watched 'Continues' back when it came out. As I recall it was
ultimately responsible for killing off all the Star Trek fan productions >because they started raising money to make a Star Trek movie. Paramount >didn't mind the fan productions as long as they weren't trying to make
money but raising a million or two for a movie was way too much so they
had to let loose the lawyers of war and basically shut _everyone_ down.

Paramount should have hired them.
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