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I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:

The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned It)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo

This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek, along
with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't lasted.

There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was
popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never
watched, so I can't say.

What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the silliness
which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.
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On 2026-03-01 11:52:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:

The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned It)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo

This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek, along
with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't lasted.

There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never watched, so I can't say.

What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the silliness
which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.

Star Trek died years ago, consumed by the greed for more money. "The
Orville" took over for a while, but then ended, probably snesibly
before it too ran out of ideas. I can't think of any current "people in
space" series that is running at the moment (other than "Starfleet
Academy" of course) - the closest is the Apple TV show "For All
Mankind" and it's new spin-off "Star City", or the new movie "Project
Hail Mary".

There are constant rumours of a Stargate reboot, which hopefully will
never happen.

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On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 06:52:33 -0500, The True Melissa
<thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was >popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done >satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never >watched, so I can't say.

TOS was at the same time as Lost in Space though TOS tried to be a lot
more serious of the two.

I fail to see how DS9 could be taken completely seriously particularly
the episodes primarily about the Ferengi. Certainly on TNG Data
episodes stood or failed on Brent Spiner's ability to do deadpan irony
without ever slipping. The scenes about Spot the cat and the Denise
Crosby polywater episode were anything but serious (that was the
episode where Data explained in detail his sexual programming)
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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

On 2026-03-01 11:52:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:
The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned
It)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo
This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek,
along
with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't
lasted.
There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS
was
popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done
satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never
watched, so I can't say.
What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the
silliness
which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.

Star Trek died years ago, consumed by the greed for more money. "The
Orville" took over for a while, but then ended, probably snesibly
before it too ran out of ideas. I can't think of any current "people
in space" series that is running at the moment (other than "Starfleet Academy" of course) - the closest is the Apple TV show "For All
Mankind" and it's new spin-off "Star City", or the new movie "Project
Hail Mary".

There are constant rumours of a Stargate reboot, which hopefully will
never happen.

I couldn't get into stargate. The twenty-two year old me liked the movie
but that was thirty years ago. Who knows if I'd enjoy a re-view.a

If TOS never existed but were produced today, it would be a disaster
like Starfleet Academy. We would never know how great it would've been.

TOS clips are quite popular among the youth on social media apps,
and it's popular because the stories resonate with everyone because the
stories were meant for everyone. People will overlook action scenes that
were standard for the day for the story.

Star Fleet Academy is created for a minute scope of audience, the result
is failure.

The OP's stance is miopic and rooted from a one-dimensional
perspective. Too bad colleges no longer teach people to think
critically.

Daniel
sysop | air & wave bbs
finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw
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Verily, in article <87h5qscfyg.fsf@rpi3>, did me@sc1f1dan.com deliver
unto us this message:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

There are constant rumours of a Stargate reboot, which hopefully

will

never happen.

I couldn't get into stargate.

I've never seen it. It was very popular for a while, to the point where
nerds assumed other nerds knew it, but I wasn't watching much TV at that
point in my life.

The OP's stance is miopic and rooted from a one-dimensional
perspective. Too bad colleges no longer teach people to think
critically.

How is my stance myopic or one-dimensional? It sounds like you largely
agree, so your final paragraph was surprising.
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