• The Trek formula, and why it works

    From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current on Sun Mar 1 06:52:33 2026
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    I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:

    The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned It)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo

    This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek, along
    with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
    Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't lasted.

    There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was
    popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
    it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
    and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
    Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never
    watched, so I can't say.

    What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the silliness
    which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
    some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc on Mon Mar 2 10:20:32 2026
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    On 2026-03-01 11:52:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

    I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:

    The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned It)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo

    This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek, along
    with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
    Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't lasted.

    There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
    it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
    and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
    Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never watched, so I can't say.

    What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the silliness
    which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
    some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.

    Star Trek died years ago, consumed by the greed for more money. "The
    Orville" took over for a while, but then ended, probably snesibly
    before it too ran out of ideas. I can't think of any current "people in
    space" series that is running at the moment (other than "Starfleet
    Academy" of course) - the closest is the Apple TV show "For All
    Mankind" and it's new spin-off "Star City", or the new movie "Project
    Hail Mary".

    There are constant rumours of a Stargate reboot, which hopefully will
    never happen.

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  • From The Horny Goat@lcraver@home.ca to rec.arts.startrek.current on Wed Mar 4 02:08:12 2026
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    On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 06:52:33 -0500, The True Melissa
    <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

    There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was >popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
    it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
    and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done >satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
    Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never >watched, so I can't say.

    TOS was at the same time as Lost in Space though TOS tried to be a lot
    more serious of the two.

    I fail to see how DS9 could be taken completely seriously particularly
    the episodes primarily about the Ferengi. Certainly on TNG Data
    episodes stood or failed on Brent Spiner's ability to do deadpan irony
    without ever slipping. The scenes about Spot the cat and the Denise
    Crosby polywater episode were anything but serious (that was the
    episode where Data explained in detail his sexual programming)
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